Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Howdy all, I've been reading everyone's posts with interest. The infection/immune system connection to the brain is very interesting and makes sense to me because it's clearly happened with my daughter. (medically documented by the medical world- blah, blah, blah) I'm curious to know what's the average dosage amount for antivirals and antifungals and if close monitoring is used? I ask because my daughter had to go on chemotherapy for her immune dsyfunction disease (overactive immune system that saw cancer cells but, also attacked her brain). During chemotherapy there was many times she had to be on antivirals and antifungals. These drugs were not used lightly in our situation and were watched closely. For two years she was on 100mg. diflucan everyday because she was a yeast magnet- which she still is after a year and half off immune suppression therapy. She's also been on a slew of other anti fungals. She was also on periodic anti virals. While on these types of drugs we had to do often blood tests because they can adversely affect the kidneys and bone marrow production. We had to remove or tweak dosages because we did at times see change in kidney/marrow function. One of the best drugs used in a that helped with immune balancing and changing brain function was IVIG. (intravenous immune globulin) The first time we gave it to her she was walking again in two weeks. She also stayed very healthy while receiving it. IVIG is is basically a bottle of antibodies. It kept a's immune system from creating antibodies and also provided her with antibodies to fight infections. Another interesting therapy that was incredible was plasmapheresis. It's not chelation but, sort of close. She was hooked up to a dialysis machine that removed the plasma from her blood- which means it removed her circulating antibodies. We would then infuse the IVIG. We saw an IMMEDIATE response. It was very very eerie. One day she was highly aggitated, moods were bouncing all over the place and her speech was nonexistant. The next day she was full of smiles, happy and beginning to communicate. It was really bizarre. I highly doubt that our local pediatrician would buy the " continued " immune connection to a's problems. She obviously agrees that a's disease created a's behavioral problems. But, she is like a lot of other doctors believe that the brain damage has already occured and we are now dealing with already created brain damage. They believe that the goal now is to " rewire " the damaged brain. They don't believe it's an ongoing process with a connection to her immune system. I agree that she has brain damage but, I can only assume that her immune system was not normal to begin with how can it possibly be 100% at this point. Who knows?? She's currently diagnosed ADHD, bipolar like behavior, OCD (mild), and general behavior issues. I am going to question her neurologist though. Her neurologist is one of the " specialists " of her disease that created all the behavior issues. The interesting connection I find is that those children with a's disease tend to get a lot of the same behavior problems and all of them had the immune disease. Most of our children are said to have autism-like behaviors but, very few are truly diagnosed with it. Aspergers tends to be the catch phrase for some. a is very communitive but, has a lot of asperger-like tendencies. Nobody has dared to put this label on her. I guess the ADHD is more " acceptable " . Who knows!! a got sick at 19 months old and all immunizations were stopped. During treatment she lost all her titers for her previous immunizations. Up until now all immunizations were a no-no. We didn't know if we triggered a strong response from the immune system if whether it would start attacking the brain again. She's scheduled to start her immunizations again after she has her tonsils removed. (her tonsils being a whole nother issue in itself) I'm afraid to do the immunizations... Everyone believes her immune system is " cured " but, she continues to have many behavior issues and for us OMS (her disease name) parents, we know the first signs of relaspe start with behavioral changes for the worse. For months now I've been torn whether to do immunizations... and I'm a real believer for getting kids immunized. Do your kids discontinue immunizations? Thanks, " Sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right " ,mom to -a 7 (nbII with oms 11/96), Kelsey 10, and 14. Wife to -<A HREF= " http://www.pilink.com/page/stinaboleeena/ " >Miss Stina Boleeena's Updates</A>- {{{{{{{ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 , An amazing story! Dr G prescribes anti-fungals like Diflucan, Nizoral etc. 100mg per day is a common dose - he starts lower and builds up, depending on age/weight. Anti-Fungals include Valtrex or FamVir. He is very careful with dose, and monitors vital organ function and blood counts constantly through CBC, chem panels and liver function tests - 4-6 weeks if needed. My son started on IM Gamma Globulin earlier in the year - every 3 weeks. Slightly more conservative approach than IV - Dr G's concern is the quality if the IV supply. However IM therapy does seem be helping in our overall therapy approach. Have you looked at the presence of antibodies to viruses like HHV6. EBV, CMV? You might consider calling Dr Goldberg for an appointment. regards, Re: IS YOUR SON ON ANTIVIRALS? Howdy all, I've been reading everyone's posts with interest. The infection/immune system connection to the brain is very interesting and makes sense to me because it's clearly happened with my daughter. (medically documented by the medical world- blah, blah, blah) I'm curious to know what's the average dosage amount for antivirals and antifungals and if close monitoring is used? I ask because my daughter had to go on chemotherapy for her immune dsyfunction disease (overactive immune system that saw cancer cells but, also attacked her brain). During chemotherapy there was many times she had to be on antivirals and antifungals. These drugs were not used lightly in our situation and were watched closely. For two years she was on 100mg. diflucan everyday because she was a yeast magnet- which she still is after a year and half off immune suppression therapy. She's also been on a slew of other anti fungals. She was also on periodic anti virals. While on these types of drugs we had to do often blood tests because they can adversely affect the kidneys and bone marrow production. We had to remove or tweak dosages because we did at times see change in kidney/marrow function. One of the best drugs used in a that helped with immune balancing and changing brain function was IVIG. (intravenous immune globulin) The first time we gave it to her she was walking again in two weeks. She also stayed very healthy while receiving it. IVIG is is basically a bottle of antibodies. It kept a's immune system from creating antibodies and also provided her with antibodies to fight infections. Another interesting therapy that was incredible was plasmapheresis. It's not chelation but, sort of close. She was hooked up to a dialysis machine that removed the plasma from her blood- which means it removed her circulating antibodies. We would then infuse the IVIG. We saw an IMMEDIATE response. It was very very eerie. One day she was highly aggitated, moods were bouncing all over the place and her speech was nonexistant. The next day she was full of smiles, happy and beginning to communicate. It was really bizarre. I highly doubt that our local pediatrician would buy the " continued " immune connection to a's problems. She obviously agrees that a's disease created a's behavioral problems. But, she is like a lot of other doctors believe that the brain damage has already occured and we are now dealing with already created brain damage. They believe that the goal now is to " rewire " the damaged brain. They don't believe it's an ongoing process with a connection to her immune system. I agree that she has brain damage but, I can only assume that her immune system was not normal to begin with how can it possibly be 100% at this point. Who knows?? She's currently diagnosed ADHD, bipolar like behavior, OCD (mild), and general behavior issues. I am going to question her neurologist though. Her neurologist is one of the " specialists " of her disease that created all the behavior issues. The interesting connection I find is that those children with a's disease tend to get a lot of the same behavior problems and all of them had the immune disease. Most of our children are said to have autism-like behaviors but, very few are truly diagnosed with it. Aspergers tends to be the catch phrase for some. a is very communitive but, has a lot of asperger-like tendencies. Nobody has dared to put this label on her. I guess the ADHD is more " acceptable " . Who knows!! a got sick at 19 months old and all immunizations were stopped. During treatment she lost all her titers for her previous immunizations. Up until now all immunizations were a no-no. We didn't know if we triggered a strong response from the immune system if whether it would start attacking the brain again. She's scheduled to start her immunizations again after she has her tonsils removed. (her tonsils being a whole nother issue in itself) I'm afraid to do the immunizations... Everyone believes her immune system is " cured " but, she continues to have many behavior issues and for us OMS (her disease name) parents, we know the first signs of relaspe start with behavioral changes for the worse. For months now I've been torn whether to do immunizations... and I'm a real believer for getting kids immunized. Do your kids discontinue immunizations? Thanks, " Sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right " ,mom to -a 7 (nbII with oms 11/96), Kelsey 10, and 14. Wife to -<A HREF= " http://www.pilink.com/page/stinaboleeena/ " >Miss Stina Boleeena's Updates</A>- {{{{{{{ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 thank you for the encouragement. my son just began to see dr. g. he was on a trial of valtrex with horible results. we will be changing meds. hope for the best. tx again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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