Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 > > >Hi, > >What does anyone think of this? My son is supposed to have HEP B vaccine >for school! >French Gov't has mortorium on it. And has anyone heard of this doctor? > >Later,=20 > >Christie >tab@... > > > > > > >Attn: ALL VACCINE and HEALTH Networkers. > >Please relay a copy of this to the people on your e-mail list. > >Thank you! > > > >Parenting with Deadly Timely Propaganda > >By > >Dr. Len Horowitz > > > >The March 1999 " Vaccines " feature in Parenting magazine provided all > >propaganda one would expect from a subsidiary of Time, Inc. > >Time-Warner, Inc., the parent company, is a corporate member of the > >Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Time's president, D. >Parsons, > >and the Editor-in-Chief of TIME, Norman Pearlstine, are longstanding CFR > >members. One CFR published policy objective is substantial worldwide > >depopulation including half of the current U.S. population being >targeted. > >This population reduction program is largely funded by the Rockefeller > >Foundation and the Merck Fund, both financially and administratively > >linked to the Merck pharmaceutical company--the world's leading vaccine > >manufacturer. Parents were told by Parenting's " science writer, " and > > " contributing editor, " Snyder Sachs, that infant and childhood > >vaccines are nearly risk free. Unstated was the ongoing virtual > >holocaust of vaccine-induced injuries affecting our youth that is >earning > >vast fortunes for Merck and other TIME's supporters while fulfilling >their > >depopulation policy objectives. > > > As a " science writer, " Ms. Sachs's article was grossly devoid of > >scientific evidence for her egregious claims. She wrote that, > > " vaccines have saved countless children from death or permanent > >disabilities due to disease. . . . " Yet, even for this generally >accepted > >fallacy, no scientific support exists. Authorities have yet to produce > >one definitive " risk/benefit analysis " on any of the more than > >twenty currently recommended vaccines. > > > Today, in fact, vaccines may be killing and maiming far more >people > >than they are helping or saving. But you don't read that in TIME to save > >your children from the vaccine risks including the epidemics of > >chronic fatigue immune dysfunction (CFIDS), fibromyalgia, lupus, >Guillean > >Barr=E9, Crone's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, type-1 diabetes, and other > >autoimmune related disorders besides autism, attention deficit and > >hyperactivity, and several vaccine-linked cancers including > >lymphoma, leukemia and sarcoma. Likewise Ms. Sachs neglected to mention > >the French government's recent moratorium on childhood hepatitis B > >vaccine due to documented links to neurological illness including >multiple > >sclerosis (MS), or the class action lawsuits pending against oral polio > >vaccine makers, including Merck, who spread monkey cancer viruses > >(including SV40) now linked to human cancer epidemics. > > > Sachs's bias clearly showed when she only interviewed vaccine > >proponents in her feature story. For instance, regarding the tens of > >thousands of brain-damaged cases linked to the DTP vaccine, Melinda > >Wharton, M.D., chief of the CDC's Child Vaccine Preventable Disease >branch > >denied their existence. " Despite years of intensive study, " Sachs wrote, > > " no cause-and-effect link has ever been confirmed. " Where is the > > " intensive study " ? Where and when was it published? According to the > >CDC MMWR publication (two studies on file) more than 99 percent of such > >brain damage cases never get reported. So how " intensive " > >is the CDC's study of this vaccine related injury after all? > > > Parents be forewarned. The vaccine industry perpetuates the > >greatest conflict of interest in earth's history. Pharmaceutical > >industrialists employ standard Machiavellian practice. They create the > >problems and then manufacture the solutions. In this case, vaccine >makers > >like Merck are making vast fortunes from the myriad illnesses they >induce. > >Then, if that's not bad enough, as your family and friends get sick and >die, > >these same criminals are pleased by increased morbidity and mortality > >for population control and population reduction. > > > > >Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D, M.A., M.P.H. is the author of the >bestselling >book > >Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola--Nature, Accident or Intentional? A > >Harvard graduate and independent investigator, he is an internationally > >recognized authority in behavioral science and public health education. >For > >more information on this and other topics see his FTP public access > >file at www.tetrahedron.org or call 1-888-50-VIRUS. For E-mails to Dr. > >Horowitz, please address tetra@... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 1999 Report Share Posted April 3, 1999 Christie, Dr. Shephard, a prominant British physician and author on ME was asking for those who had their ME triggered by a Hepatitis B shot years ago. There were many in the United States that felt that the shot triggered their own case of CFS. If you can claim moral or religeous grounds, have him skip the shot. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 1999 Report Share Posted April 3, 1999 In a message dated 4/3/99 1:45:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, nmcfadden@... writes: << =====GAIL - i have a year before i have to face this for my son. by 7th grade he has to get it. what about he has a cfids mom, and this could make the mom sick.... would that work? even a pediatrician we know is upset about this shot! >> It could. Check with your state health department and see what is required to forego the shot. I know one 20-yr. old patient, though mild, had a chance to live and work part-time in Ecuador and needed shots to do this. Bell, M.D. was against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 1999 Report Share Posted April 3, 1999 At 11:42 AM 04/03/1999 EST, you wrote: >From: GAILRONDA@... > >Christie, >Dr. Shephard, a prominant British physician and author on ME was >asking for those who had their ME triggered by a Hepatitis B shot years ago. >There were many in the United States that felt that the shot triggered their >own case of CFS. If you can claim moral or religeous grounds, have him skip >the shot. Gail =====GAIL - i have a year before i have to face this for my son. by 7th grade he has to get it. what about he has a cfids mom, and this could make the mom sick.... would that work? even a pediatrician we know is upset about this shot! nancym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 1999 Report Share Posted April 6, 1999 I heard Horowitz speak about this. Seems that you can register as having religious convictions against shots, but not sure how you would do this. Maybe we could start a new religion here! a GAILRONDA@... wrote: > > From: GAILRONDA@... > > In a message dated 4/3/99 1:45:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, > nmcfadden@... writes: > > << > =====GAIL - i have a year before i have to face this for my son. by > 7th grade he has to get it. what about he has a cfids mom, and this > could make the mom sick.... would that work? even a pediatrician we > know is upset about this shot! >> > It could. Check with your state health department and see what is required > to forego the shot. I know one 20-yr. old patient, though mild, had a chance > to live and work part-time in Ecuador and needed shots to do this. > Bell, M.D. was against it. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? > > Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 1999 Report Share Posted April 9, 1999 In a message dated 4/9/99 8:40:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pskari@... writes: << what about he has a cfids mom, and this > > could make the mom sick.... would that work? even a pediatrician we > > know is upset about this shot! >> >> There's one group you can check with...but I'm brain dead at the moment and will have to get back to you...it's a group against innoculations of any kind that are forced... Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 1999 Report Share Posted April 9, 1999 Steve, this is the Hemex study I've been writing about. We've funded a double-blind study that will be announced soon...and it seems to be help a lot of patients. One warinng....if you're on weekly IV saline, the test won't be correct! Gail p.s. they've gone much further than those posted. don't know when they'll update their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 1999 Report Share Posted April 9, 1999 > I heard Horowitz speak about this. Seems that you can register as > having religious convictions against shots, but not sure how you would > do this. Maybe we could start a new religion here! Check on the laws of your state. In Colorado you can exempt for several reasons. One is religious, but one is " just because " . You can sign a paper saying that you just don't want your kids immunized and then they can go to public school etc. Each state is different. > > =====GAIL - i have a year before i have to face this for my son. by > > 7th grade he has to get it. what about he has a cfids mom, and this > > could make the mom sick.... would that work? even a pediatrician we > > know is upset about this shot! >> > > It could. Check with your state health department and see what is required > > to forego the shot. There is a problem with this. ****SOMETIMES THEY *LIE* ****** This is true in Colorado!!! I know people who have called the state health dept in Colorado and asked if children must have certain vaccinations to get into public school, and they said ***YES****. In Colorado, at least, this is a LIE. The callers then asked " isn't there some sort of waiver I can sign or what if I have religious problems with it. The colorado health dept said NO, *ALL* children *MUST* have these vaccinations. ***** THIS IS A LIE !!!!!!!!! ***** Sometimes doctors lie about this too. I know of a person who brought a doc up short when the doc said kids had to have a certain vaccine. This person said " but Colorado has a law that says parents can " opt out " for their children " and the doc said " I know, but I don't let parents know this because I think all children should have this vaccine " . Your doctor *MAY* lie to you !!!! Also, every year in the fall *both* Denver papers have articles about how you must get your children vaccinated in order to go to public school. The TV stations do this too. This person I know, calls every year and asks them why they are lying. And every year they say " its better for the children to have the vaccines " So they *KNOW* they are lying and yet they report on this every fall. I know the law in Colorado. I don't know how you really find out what the law is in your state, because if its true in Colorado that the newspapers, the TV stations, doctors and the state health department will *LIE* about this topic, then you can bet these organizations will lie about this topic in other states as well. > > I know one 20-yr. old patient, though mild, had a chance > > to live and work part-time in Ecuador and needed shots to do this. > > Bell, M.D. was against it. It *may* have only been recommended. It was *probably* not required. Since docs and just about everyone else lies about this, its really hard to get the real story. Patti -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 1999 Report Share Posted April 9, 1999 this is a long post but it seem to be very encouraging.-- especially for those of us who seem to have over active immune systems. enjoy Steve Is CFS/FM Due to an Undefined Hypercoagulable State Brought on by Immune Activation of Coagulation? Does Adding Anticoagulant Therapy Improve CFS/FM Patient Symptoms? D Berg1, LH Berg1, J Couvaras2 1HEMEX Laboratories, 2IVF Phoenix Introduction In 1994, the question was asked " Are recurrent miscarriages a result of an underlying hypercoagulable state? " From the data of a patient study of 25 women, the conclusion was that there is a hypercoagulable (HC) state in a subset of recurrent miscarriage patients. This led to the definition and understanding of the HOPI (Hypercoagulation Of Pregnancy & Infertility) Syndrome [bLOOD:11/97] or Immune Activation of Coagulation (IAC). The treatment for these women is subcutaneous (sc) heparin before conception and throughout the pregnancy. To date, there have been more than 150 successful first time deliveries from three IVF practices in Phoenix. Heparin reduces this hypercoagulable state and quiets some of the symptoms associated with an activated immune system. This treatment improves success rates from 25% to greater than 75%. Heparin also reduces some of the immune mediated symptoms, including headache, pelvic pain, and fatigue. This finding suggested that this therapy would be useful in chronic fatigue (CFS) and fibromyalgia (FM). A review of HOPI patients from one clinic indicated that a subgroup indeed clinically fit the diagnosis of CFS or FM. To validate this observation, this study was begun to answer two questions: A) Is there an underlying hypercoagulable state in CFS and FM , & if so, would heparin therapy relieve the symptoms and / or normalize the patient? Methods The Hypercoagulable Screen consists of four tests Fibrinogen: The Clauss method for fibrinogen measurement is the standard assay using the rate of fibrinogen convertion to fibrin in the presence of excess thrombin. The concentration is determined by using a reference curve prepared from the clotting times of reference plasma dilutions with known fibrinogen concentrations. Soluble Fibrin Monomer (SFM): SFM is a chromogenic assay based on the fact that SFM considerably enhances the conversion of plasminogen to plasmin by tPA. The amount of SFM is determined by measuring the amidolytic activity of plasmin on the chromogenic substrate S-2390. The release of p-nitroaniline (pNA) is determined at 405 nm. The concentration of SFM is plotted against absorbance and is linear from 0 - 100 nmol/L in plasma. Clotting Kinetics (Sonoclot): The Sonoclot is an ex-vivo analog tracing of a whole blood clotting time. The tracing displays four actions of the coagulation process, consisting of activation of the cascade (ONSET), fibrin monomer formation (RATE), platelet function (peak of tracing) and clot retraction and fibrinolytic activity. The Sonoclot represents the current status of the coagulation system of the patient. Platelet Activation Score (PA Score): The PA Score is the amount of platelet activation in the patient. The assay is either: 1) a platelet aggregation procedure, using 2.5uM ADP agonist and measuring the area under the curve, or 2) platelet expression of glycoproteins on the platelet surface as indicators of activation, using PAC-1 antibody against GP IIb/IIIa, CD62 (P Selectin from alpha granules being incorporated into the platelet membrane) and 10 uM ADP. Results 21 Female Patients: 9 CFS, 12 FM: See Table Abnormal Patient Values: 1 test - 1 patient (5%) 2 tests - 5 patients (24%) - Suggested cutoff level 3 tests -12 patients (57%) for anticoagulant 4 tests - 3 patients (14%) therapy. Abnormal Test Values: Sonoclot Rate: 19/21 = 90% SFM: 15/18 = 83% PA Score: 14/21 = 67% Fibrinogen: 11/21 = 52% Improvement: CFS FM None 0 0 Some 0 1 Moderate 4 7 Significant 5 4 See BD Lab Data as patient example of therapy and improvement. Discussion The hypothesis that a subgroup of CFS/FM patients have a hypercoagulable state is proven by demonstrating thrombin (IIa) generation in these patients. Additionally, two out of three patients have platelet activation (PA). Platelet activation reinforces thrombin generation, worsening patients symptoms. Aspirin (ASA) does not completely reduce this activation, which creates the " sticky platelet " syndrome. Even 325 mg of ASA twice a day may not attenuate this stimulation. Only removing the source of the immune activation (IgG) will turn off platelet activation. Activated platelets produce IL-1 and TNFa which can induce an inflammatory response in the patient. [When using heparin or coumadin, 81 mg ASA per day is used as an antiplatelet drug.] To shut off thrombin generation, anticoagulant therapy is necessary until the underlying cause of thrombin generation is determined and removed. Anticoagulants can stop thrombin production while giving the body time to recover and down regulate the immune activation. The standard method for anticoagulation is to begin with sc heparin and follow with low dose coumadin, both on a weight adjusted basis. The goal is to normalize the patient from the hypercoagulable state. This is a lower dose than therapeutic anticoagulant regimens. Soluble Fibrin Monomer (SFM) deposition is like a teflon coating on endothelial cells lining the capillaries and blocking passage of nutrients through to muscles, organs, etc. Simply shutting off the thrombin generation will allow the body's fibrinolytic system time to dissolve and remove any fibrin deposition on capillary surfaces. The disease process occurs over time causing patient symptoms and it will take time to reverse this process to dissolve the SFM. Patients may not be free of symptoms for 1-3 months. Most have moderate to excellent recovery and remain symptom-free. Only one patient out of these twenty-one had minimal improvement in symptoms. Two patients needed an additional week of heparin therapy after converting to coumadin during their treatment. Conclusions D This pilot study has shown: A hypercoagulable state exists in a subset of CFS/FM patients. New, sensitive coagulation assays (F1+2, SFM, PA Score) allow detection of low grade thrombin generation, platelet activation, and prove a hypercoagulable condition exists. The size of the subset (small, medium, or large number of CFS/FM patients) remains unanswered. Heparin down regulates this hypercoagulable state. Low dose coumadin therapy is able to prevent most symptoms from reappearing. A long term, placebo controlled study is beginning at this time. Only patients with abnormal baseline coagulation test values will be treated with anticoagulants. Back to the Top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 1999 Report Share Posted April 10, 1999 In a message dated 4/10/99 7:39:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, S@... writes: << thanks for the info. Is hemex easy and cheap to get. >> The test by hemex can be ordered by any doctor and most insurance companies pay for it, including Medicare. The lab must put the drawn blood samples in dry ice to ship by Fedex, but the company pays for this shipping. If you test positive, they'll fax your doctor a protocol they feel will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 1999 Report Share Posted April 10, 1999 thanks for the info. Is hemex easy and cheap to get. Do you think that my Dr. will view this as a mainstream type of approach or more of a marginal alternative. If you have any additional information please send it to me. thanks Steve > Re: Vaccine > > From: GAILRONDA@... > > Steve, this is the Hemex study I've been writing about. We've funded a > double-blind study that will be announced soon...and it seems to be help a > > lot of patients. One warinng....if you're on weekly IV saline, the test > won't be correct! > Gail > p.s. they've gone much further than those posted. don't know when they'll > > update their website. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? > http://www.ONElist.com > Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the > Internet! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 1999 Report Share Posted April 10, 1999 is any one on this list using the hemex product?? > Re: Vaccine > > From: GAILRONDA@... > > Steve, this is the Hemex study I've been writing about. We've funded a > double-blind study that will be announced soon...and it seems to be help a > > lot of patients. One warinng....if you're on weekly IV saline, the test > won't be correct! > Gail > p.s. they've gone much further than those posted. don't know when they'll > > update their website. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? > http://www.ONElist.com > Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the > Internet! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 1999 Report Share Posted April 18, 1999 , thank GOD you have read up on it!!!! If this doesn't prove that greed is the motivating factor behind some doctors...nothing will!!!!! I am SO relieved that you know better!!!!!!!!!!! Hugs, A -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 J Bacteriol 1999 Apr;181(8):2358-62 Genetic diversity in the protective antigen gene of Bacillus anthracis. Price LB, Hugh- M, PJ, Keim P Department of Biological Science, Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, Arizona 86011-5640, USA. Bacillus anthracis is a gram-positive spore-forming bacterium that causes the disease anthrax. The anthrax toxin contains three components, including the protective antigen (PA), which binds to eucaryotic cell surface receptors and mediates the transport of toxins into the cell. In this study, the entire 2,294-nucleotide protective antigen gene (pag) was sequenced from 26 of the most diverse B. anthracis strains to identify potential variation in the toxin and to further our understanding of B. anthracis evolution. Five point mutations, three synonymous and two missense, were identified. These differences correspond to six different haploid types, which translate into three different amino acid sequences. The two amino acid changes were shown to be located in an area near a highly antigenic region critical to lethal factor binding. Nested primers were used to amplify and sequence this same region of pag from necropsy samples taken from victims of the 1979 Sverdlovsk incident. This investigation uncovered five different alleles among the strains present in the tissues, including two not seen in the 26-sample survey. One of these two alleles included a novel missense mutation, again located just adjacent to the highly antigenic region. Phylogenetic (cladistic) analysis of the pag corresponded with previous strain grouping based on chromosomal variation, suggesting that plasmid evolution in B. anthracis has occurred with little or no horizontal transfer between the different strains. PMID: 10197996, UI: 99214082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 1999 Report Share Posted June 30, 1999 DSNurse@... wrote: > > From: DSNurse@... > > J Bacteriol 1999 Apr;181(8):2358-62 > > Genetic diversity in the protective antigen gene of Bacillus anthracis. > > Price LB, Hugh- M, PJ, Keim P > Department of Biological Science, Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, > Arizona 86011-5640, USA. > > Bacillus anthracis is a gram-positive spore-forming bacterium that causes the > disease anthrax. The anthrax toxin contains three components, including the > protective antigen (PA), which binds to eucaryotic cell surface receptors and > mediates the transport of toxins into the cell. In this study, the entire > 2,294-nucleotide protective antigen gene (pag) was sequenced from 26 of the > most diverse B. anthracis strains to identify potential variation in the > toxin and to further our understanding of B. anthracis evolution. Five point > mutations, three synonymous and two missense, were identified. These > differences correspond to six different haploid types, which translate into > three different amino acid sequences. The two amino acid changes were shown > to be located in an area near a highly antigenic region critical to lethal > factor binding. Nested primers were used to amplify and sequence this same > region of pag from necropsy samples taken from victims of the 1979 Sverdlovsk > incident. This investigation uncovered five different alleles among the > strains present in the tissues, including two not seen in the 26-sample > survey. One of these two alleles included a novel missense mutation, again > located just adjacent to the highly antigenic region. Phylogenetic > (cladistic) analysis of the pag corresponded with previous strain grouping > based on chromosomal variation, suggesting that plasmid evolution in B. > anthracis has occurred with little or no horizontal transfer between the > different strains. As I am not in the medical field I did not understand a word of this. Will someone please educate this poor country boy, as to what was said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 1999 Report Share Posted June 30, 1999 Re: the reffered to post I have no idea either, this is more than I needed to know...Information best read and circulated among doctors. Gretchen =================== Bootlegger wrote: > > As I am not in the medical field I did not understand a word of this. > Will someone please educate this poor country boy, as to what was said. > > From: Bootlegger <bearone@...> > > DSNurse@... wrote: ============= > > J Bacteriol 1999 Apr;181(8):2358-62 > > > > Genetic diversity in the protective antigen gene of Bacillus anthracis. > > > > Price LB, Hugh- M, PJ, Keim P > > Department of Biological Science, Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, > > Arizona 86011-5640, USA. > > > > Bacillus anthracis is a gram-positive spore-forming bacterium that causes the > > disease anthrax. The anthrax toxin contains three components, including the > > protective antigen (PA), which binds to eucaryotic cell surface receptors and > > mediates the transport of toxins into the cell. In this study, the entire > > 2,294-nucleotide protective antigen gene (pag) was sequenced from 26 of the............. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 Jeff, That's the way I see it. It looks like the DOD gave the go-ahead to vaccinate everyone with product that seems to be defective. This is all under the guise of " Force Protection " and if anything ever happens on a large scale this is the excuse they will use. Just watch. Gerry WA ANG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 Sharon, I know he helped develop it and I just read about it, but can't remember where. I'll keep thinking and if I find it, I'll let you know. Also on NG there is information about the vaccine and adverse effects that might help the second part of your question. Vicki >From: " melillo " <mellillo1@...> > >A question: Did Steere help develop the vaccine. If so, is there proof of >that? And isn't there evidence in some medical magazines that it causes >autoimmune problems? >Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2001 Report Share Posted July 5, 2001 In a message dated 7/5/2001, Mitesh Soni <mitesh_soni@...> writes:> > Subject: Aiden Inc - Dendritic and other vaccines > > Hello group, > > We have been advised that Aiden Inc have developed novel strategies for > the use of vaccines against a number of cancers. In particular they have > developed a specific ovarian cancer vaccine and also do autologous cancer > vaccines. Has anyone on the group had any personal dealings with this > company or its products ? They claim to have good results. > > Hello Mitesh... I have Lymphoma and I'm in the U of N Vaccine Trial...the company is Genitope. I will be getting the autologous vaccine shot next Tuesday in Omaha...It was made from a node taken last August in Nebraska...I had to have chemo and then hold the remission for 6 months...They're in Phase III, I think...call Blumel, Protocol Nurse, for more info...402-559-9183. Here's a link to the Phase II trial (mine): http://cnetdb.nci.nih.gov/cgi-bin/srchcgi.exe?TYPE=search & DBID=allprotocol & ZUI=199_14633 & PASSTHRU=%3aip%3a63%2e11%2e190%2e159%3a%3aprof%3a:ip:63.11.190.159:prof::recno :4: & SFMT=prot_summary/1/0/0 in AZ Indolent (the NHL, not me ;-), dx 5/00, follicular small cleaved B cell, Stage 4, no organ involvement, 5-10% Bone Marrow. Entered in Nebraska Vaccine Clinical Trial (Dr. Vose), CVPx6, remission in January 2001, vaccine shots start on July 10, 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2001 Report Share Posted October 28, 2001 Sorry folks, I tried to respond directly to R Moyed but my mail was returned undeliverable. So if he/she/it is reading this; this was my answer vaccine You are an uninformed ass. I received the vaccine and will never have the health I once had. Not everyone will have a reaction to this vaccine but if they do why does the DoD ignore it. I hope you are able to receive this vaccine if that is what will make you happy, but don't condemn those who make a stand. you don't have a clue. tom starkweather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 Hi Sue. My name is Angie and a friend sent me this " stuff " on HBOT. Forgive my ignorance but I am not sure what's going on here. Suddenly I am getting tons of e-mails from apparently a group of parents and doctors discussing tidbits about their families and treatments etc. I guess I picked you out of the bunch because the vaccination bit caught my attention. I have a now 10 year old son named Jordan. He was born without complications or disabilities. At 16 months of age Jordan suffered (at our local hospital) a 3 1/2 hour uncontrolled seizure. The seizure, along with several other complications and anoxia caused a severe brain injury. We have been to Minneapolis and Rochester and they say it must have been a complicated febrile seizure as they have never been able to pinpoint any other reason. I have always questioned wether it could have been from the vaccinations he received about three weeks earlier. The moment I mention such a things I have always been shot down with a " no, wouldn't have had anything to do with it " . I don't understand how that can be determined and it has also never been explained how that can be determined. How did you know that your daughters injury was specifically due to the shots? I have always been very leary about vaccinations but I guess also leary about not giving them. We have two more children 3 1/2 and 14 months. I have my fingers crossed constantly. I guess I am hoping to get a clue of what this is all about. Like a chat center or what. I don't know anything about the HBOT. Being pretty computer illiterate I don't know what to do with all the links etc. and what to look into and what not to. I have Very little time to spend much time at the computer so I am not able to play around much. Just wondering if you could fill me in a little. Thanks, Angie in Bismarck North Dakota. Re: [ ] Re:Vaccine > Dear Sue, this is a tough decision, I know.I just want to let you know that > vaccines caused my daughter's BI and she now has intractable seizures. She > had hers as a baby, however, I do know of others who were fine until they > had a vaccine in their teens. There is a 3% percent of developing the > disease, having adverse, reaction, or death. Not much unless you fall in > that 3%. The biggest risk falls to those who have any history of any kind of > auto-immune disease in the family. Good luck with your decision. I really > don't like how strongly Prevnar is being pushed, not just for meningitis, > but also for ear infections in babies...Ellen > > > > > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. > Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ > > Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html > > Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolist.htm > > HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe to by sending a blank email to mailto:medicaid-subscribe > > Unsubscribe? Click here mailto:medicaid-unsubscribe . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 My daughter is attending a University in Minnesota. The college has sent out notices that all of the students be vacinated against Miningococctal Disease. I told her I will ask this group if they thought this was necessary. I am not an acvocate to vaccines, but have relunctly done them in the past. Any recommendations? She is very healthy, exercises, takes vitimins, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Dear Sue, this is a tough decision, I know.I just want to let you know that vaccines caused my daughter's BI and she now has intractable seizures. She had hers as a baby, however, I do know of others who were fine until they had a vaccine in their teens. There is a 3% percent of developing the disease, having adverse, reaction, or death. Not much unless you fall in that 3%. The biggest risk falls to those who have any history of any kind of auto-immune disease in the family. Good luck with your decision. I really don't like how strongly Prevnar is being pushed, not just for meningitis, but also for ear infections in babies...Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Thank-you Ellen! Re: [ ] Re:Vaccine > Dear Sue, this is a tough decision, I know.I just want to let you know that > vaccines caused my daughter's BI and she now has intractable seizures. She > had hers as a baby, however, I do know of others who were fine until they > had a vaccine in their teens. There is a 3% percent of developing the > disease, having adverse, reaction, or death. Not much unless you fall in > that 3%. The biggest risk falls to those who have any history of any kind of > auto-immune disease in the family. Good luck with your decision. I really > don't like how strongly Prevnar is being pushed, not just for meningitis, > but also for ear infections in babies...Ellen > > > > > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. > Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ > > Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html > > Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolist.htm > > HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe to by sending a blank email to mailto:medicaid-subscribe > > Unsubscribe? Click here mailto:medicaid-unsubscribe .. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Greetings! My suggestion is that you study www.mercola.com. Dr. Joe Mercola has an extensive data base of research material about this very issue. He has a search engine included that you can access. Hope I helped. With Much Respect, Marlena Orndorff Sue Dropp wrote: > My daughter is attending a University in Minnesota. The college has > sent out notices that all of the students be vacinated against > Miningococctal Disease. I told her I will ask this group if they > thought this was necessary. I am not an acvocate to vaccines, but > have relunctly done them in the past. Any recommendations? She is > very healthy, exercises, takes vitimins, etc. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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