Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 In a message dated 10/20/2002 2:21:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, suedropp@... writes: > My daughter is attending a University in Minnesota. The college has sent > out notices that all of the students be vacinated against Miningococctal > Disease. I told her I will ask this group if they thought this was > necessary. I am not an acvocate to vaccines, but have relunctly done them > in the past. Any recommendations? She is very healthy, exercises, takes > I can only beg no..... I've seen what it can do if " caught " ... and well we all know truly vaccines are a shot in the dark..... and it's just not worth it..... Love yas! ) Mom to i ~ ACC, DWS, SID, LMC-TCS, PDD-NOS, ABCDEFG Kid~Who continues to show us what the power of prayer will overcome! <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/forfranki/AMothersPlea.html " >He's my son</A> <~~i's updates etc.... " I have learned to use the word " impossible " with the greatest caution. " ~ Wernher von Braun <A HREF= " http://www.noahcenter.com/ " >N.O.A.H. Center</A> Neurological Organization And Hyperbaric Center Remember, Amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic. (given plans from the Master craftsmen) (given plans from mere men) Old Romanian saying.... " Sometimes, God will allow a Tear on our cheek, only because He wants to raise a Rainbow in out hearts. " Romans 8:28 <A HREF= " http://www.forfranki.com/ " >For i Foundation</A> " Be careful. Don't think these little children are worth nothing. I tell you they have angels in heaven who are always with my Father in heaven. " 18:10 <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/frankisangels/DollarMinistry.html " >i's Angels</A> <~ Small commitment ~ Big returns " Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed. " Proverbs 16:3 <A HREF= " http://www.petitiononline.com/angel777/petition.html " >The Awakening Petition for HBOT/HDOT</A> <~~PLEASE SIGN! " Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. " ~ Margaret Mead THE POWER OF GOD When there is nothing left but God.... that is when you find out God is all you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Hi Angie, I think this was directed to me, not Sue. My daughter was healthy, no complications or illnesses until she was about 7 months old. She had her 6 month old booster vaccines which consisted of HibV, DPT, and polio. About 3 weeks later she developed viral encephalitis. I never really made the connection with vaccines though until she was 7 years old. By this time, I had her seizures well under control on a special diet and she was doing well in school. She only had seizures when she was fighting some other infection. So I signed her up to get the Hepatitis B vaccine which was so highly recommended to us. Expressed my mild concerns with her neurologist and he said not to worry that it was more important to get the vaccine. So she did, and had a severe reaction within 24 hours. After that, I began really looking into the whole vaccine issue, put two and two together, looked at her medical records, etc. and concluded that the original illness was vaccine related too. The same neuro who encouraged the vaccine wrote us off, but then again, he was affiliated with a big research hospital. HBOT was a tremendous help to my daughter's recovery process. Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 i am with you my son is so sick this has to stop now. now now this is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 At 01:30 PM 01/18/2003 -0800, you wrote: >I'm not disagreeng about the dangers of vaccines but their are risks to traveling out of the country, how do you think most of the nasty diseases have spread, people running all over the place uneducated and bringing back, or taking it to others, in history these people have wiped out whole tribes, because the natives immune systems were not able to kill this new problem, it's the same with animals, as well as food, bugs..etc. I personally willl never have my children vaccinated again, but that is my choice, vaccines do have their place, and with out mercury! That is certanily a crippling statement considering your a professional.. >Barbara > No, vaccines do not have a place. You study this issue for 20 years like I have and you will see. Mercury is a huge issue, but just as YOU DID NOT know about the dangers of mercury before, you still don't know about the other dangers of vaccines and I will not be silenced in protecting children and adults. And the myth that people traveling outside the country brings things back is just not an educated one. Please please educate yourselves before you are more damaged - damaged into oblivion. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Homeopathy course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > And the myth > that people traveling outside the country brings things back is just not an > educated one. I always laugh hearing that It is one of the most incredible (for the fact that it works) scare tactic I've ever heard of. It's incredible how people would prefer to take a vaccine (that they don't even know what it does to them) just to prevent... what? Do they think that everybody else outside America is sick? Man! Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 LOLOL Re: [ ] vaccine At 01:30 PM 01/18/2003 -0800, you wrote: >I'm not disagreeng about the dangers of vaccines but their are risks to traveling out of the country, how do you think most of the nasty diseases have spread, people running all over the place uneducated and bringing back, or taking it to others, in history these people have wiped out whole tribes, because the natives immune systems were not able to kill this new problem, it's the same with animals, as well as food, bugs..etc. I personally willl never have my children vaccinated again, but that is my choice, vaccines do have their place, and with out mercury! That is certanily a crippling statement considering your a professional.. >Barbara > No, vaccines do not have a place. You study this issue for 20 years like I have and you will see. Mercury is a huge issue, but just as YOU DID NOT know about the dangers of mercury before, you still don't know about the other dangers of vaccines and I will not be silenced in protecting children and adults. And the myth that people traveling outside the country brings things back is just not an educated one. Please please educate yourselves before you are more damaged - damaged into oblivion. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Homeopathy course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 See what we face. It sucks that they are clueless and spout off the bylines without even getting out of the office to truly serve their country. Thanks for listening. MAJ Conley VACCINE Is it a mandatory vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 In a message dated 11/11/2004 7:23:44 PM Alaskan Standard Time, alice@... writes: > It's recommended for anyone who has an implant. In fact, it's recommended > for people with pace makers and any metal implants. Since the FDA recommends > it for CI users, it makes sense to me to get it. An adult needs the > Pneumovax but you can find the full information at the FDA site which is > http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/safety/cochlear.html > > Alice So Alice, does this mean that even after surgery, in subsequent years, people with implants should get the vaccination? It's not just a precaution taken with the surgery? Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 In a message dated 11/11/2004 8:32:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, plsav42@... writes: So Alice, does this mean that even after surgery, in subsequent years, people with implants should get the vaccination? It's not just a precaution taken with the surgery? i am wondering the same thing,, the FDA site doesnt tell us much other than " one dose " ..... and my primary doc said,, once lasts a lifetime... Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 In a message dated 11/11/2004 7:38:15 PM Alaskan Standard Time, alice@... writes: > Yes - That's what it means. My PCP wants me to have a booster every 5 > years so I'll have one in March since I had the Pneumovax long before this notice > ever came out. > > > > Alice whew! every 5 years is doable.. I'm glad it's not a yearly thing! Thanks! Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 In a message dated 11/11/2004 7:40:19 PM Alaskan Standard Time, spottedlee@... writes: > i am wondering the same thing,, the FDA site doesnt tell us much other than > > " one dose " ..... and my primary doc said,, once lasts a lifetime... > > Lee I'll ask Dr. Backous when I see him and report back.. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 In a message dated 11/11/2004 8:50:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, plsav42@... writes: I'll ask Dr. Backous when I see him and report back.. yes,, let me know.. thank you,,, Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 It's recommended for anyone who has an implant. In fact, it's recommended for people with pace makers and any metal implants. Since the FDA recommends it for CI users, it makes sense to me to get it. An adult needs the Pneumovax but you can find the full information at the FDA site which is http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/safety/cochlear.html Alice > > can someone tell me how important it is to get the menengitis(SP?) > vacine? > I had my implant done in 2003 and never got a shot... > Where would I go and how do I now what to get? > Thanks, > Thela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Yes - That's what it means. My PCP wants me to have a booster every 5 years so I'll have one in March since I had the Pneumovax long before this notice ever came out. Alice > > > It's recommended for anyone who has an implant. In fact, it's recommended > > for people with pace makers and any metal implants. Since the FDA recommends > > it for CI users, it makes sense to me to get it. An adult needs the > > Pneumovax but you can find the full information at the FDA site which is > > http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/safety/cochlear.html > > > > Alice > > So Alice, does this mean that even after surgery, in subsequent years, people > with implants should get the vaccination? It's not just a precaution taken > with the surgery? > > Pam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Lee, I think it depends on the patient. I know my PCP wants me to have a booster in March as I said in an earlier post. I am diabetic too though and have a form of Muscular Dystrophy too so she may be using caution with a " fragile " patient. It's best to ask your own doctor I believe. Alice -- Re: vaccine > Sent: 12 Nov 2004 04:34:06 > > In a message dated 11/11/2004 8:32:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, > plsav42@... writes: > > So Alice, does this mean that even after surgery, in subsequent years, > people > with implants should get the vaccination? It's not just a precaution taken > with the surgery? > > > i am wondering the same thing,, the FDA site doesnt tell us much other than > " one dose " ..... and my primary doc said,, once lasts a lifetime... > > Lee > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Lee I had my booster dose between my 2 surgeries. I got the pnemovax vaccine early because I am a high risk for pnemonia. so if you are younger than 65 which I am assuming you are then you need a booster shot every 5 years. Snoopy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 My CI surgeon also recommended only getting one dose of the vaccine, and said that I would not need additional boosters. I too am curious about why this would vary. -Dana > i am wondering the same thing,, the FDA site doesnt tell us much other than > " one dose " ..... and my primary doc said,, once lasts a lifetime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Do not listen to the doctors and nurses and teachers on this one. No one has proved that thimerisol does not cause autism. In fact, there is a huge body of evidence to the contrary. Mercury is poison. Thimerisol is a form of it. It continues to be in Hep B, flu shots and many times, DTP shots. There are laws coming into effect to ban thimerisol in vaccines, but unless you read the label yourself, (in SPITE of what the doctors tell you, i.e., it's not in there, it's safe, etc) you cannot be sure. . jamiegolf99 <jamiegolf99@...> wrote: hi we are from canada amd our health agency called to say my son was up for his booster. when my husband told her we beleive that his first immunizations caused his autism she told him that the docters who reported the connection have since recanted!! does anyone know if this is true or not???? i still will not get him boostered his doctor says for majority one is enough anyway but im still not willing to have him have a regression after years of progress with all the diffrent things weve done with him...thanks for replies ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I would ask her to cite the specific doctors she is referring to. If she's so certain no one now believes it, ask for proof. I'd be willing to bet she will offer no proof. If she's talking about the initial Wakefield study, some in the study recanted after they saw him run out of England and saw the barrels getting turned on them. The fact is, no one can refute the data or the conclusion, which was simply that more research needed to be done. And, two other reputable scientific studies have replicated the Wakefield study, which further supports any scientist who would say they didn't find what they did indeed find has issues other than wanting to see scientific facts be given. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 > Take time to do your research. Don't let anyone bully you into anything. Be careful about engaging officials in discussions about the dangers of vaccines. It is often easier to claim a religious exemption than to butt heads with brick walls. Very good advice! Here is my vaccine section, for doing your own research http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#vaccines For exemptions for school entry, find your state here http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/allstates.htm I don't really take my kids to doctors any more, but now when I am asked about vaccinating, I am considering telling the doctor that I spent the last 6 years of my kids' lives eliminating metals and viruses from their bodies. So if they can show me a vaccine that does not contain ANY metals or viruses, THEN I will consider injecting it into their bodies. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Of course! The trial was at MD in Houston. It was a phase II trial using "autologous lymphoma-derived heat shock protein-peptide complex" The goal was to find out if a vaccine (named above) made from the patient's own tumor can help to shrink or slow the growth of the tumor. Follows is the description of treatment from the consent form I signed: "Before treament starts, patients will have a physical exam, blood tests, urine tests, and a heart test. A chest x-ray and if necessary, CT scans of the abdomen and pelvis will be done. Other scans will be done as needed. . . Patients in this study will have surgery to remove a lymphoma tumor. Most of the tumor will be sent to a laboratory. In the lab, a substance called HSPPC-96 will be removed from the tumor. Scientists will try to make a vaccine from this substance. If a vaccine can be made, patients will be treated with HSPPC-96. If a vaccine cannot be made, patients will be offered other treatments. HSPPC-96 will be injected under the skin once a week for 4 weeks. It will then be given every two weeks until the amount of available vaccine is finished or the tumor has gotten worse." Then it talks about the check-ups, etc. My doctor removed me from the trial because of node growth in my abdomen although the director of the trial did not agree with him that there was a problem. My doctor was leaning on the safe side, and I went with his opinion although I could have stayed in the trial. I did ask if there was information about other patients in the trial and how they were doing, but the trial had not been going on long enough at that time for any results to be known. I do not know if it is still going on. That could be determined by checking on the MD website, I guess. If/when I relapse, I will certainly ask about any vaccine trials as possible treatment. My gut feeling is that the body will do what it's supposed to if given the right chance. From: Wayne McPherson Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: vaccine Hi Bettie Jane. Would you want to share a little about your vaccine trial? (where the trial was, and what its results were) wayne ------------------- Wayne McPhersonCape Girardeau, MO.67, CLLdx 9/99, stage 1, trisomy 12, CD38+, unmutated, ZAP70+w & w, WBC 113K when MyVax began 3/1/07, now 161Kbettie grant <bettiejgrantmsn> wrote: Bettie Jane; age 72 Dx: 8/2002 Vaccine trial 12/2002 - 3/2003 Rituxan: 3/2003 - 9/2004 FC+R: 10/2004 - 3/2005 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thanks, Wayne. Good luck in the trial. Surely hope it works for you. May I ask who your doctor is at MD? Bettie Jane Re: vaccine Hi Bettie Jane. Would you want to share a little about your vaccine trial? (where the trial was, and what its results were) wayne ------------------- Wayne McPhersonCape Girardeau, MO.67, CLLdx 9/99, stage 1, trisomy 12, CD38+, unmutated, ZAP70+w & w, WBC 113K when MyVax began 3/1/07, now 161Kbettie grant <bettiejgrantmsn> wrote: Bettie Jane; age 72 Dx: 8/2002 Vaccine trial 12/2002 - 3/2003 Rituxan: 3/2003 - 9/2004 FC+R: 10/2004 - 3/2005 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I am no longer in the trial and, unfortunately, cannot remember the drug company involved, but it was not the one Wayne is doing. I might have done better in the trial if they had been able to make more vaccine from my node, but there was only enough for four treatments. Re: vaccine Wayne and Bettie Jane - just want to make sure you're NOT on the same vaccine trial - See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Thank you, Bettie Jane. Since visiting MDA for the 'second opinion' that confirmed by dx, I hardly used a doctor while w & w. A local oncologist monitored my WBC, spleen, & nodes, declaring them 'stable.' When I heard of the MyVax trial, I immediately contacted Dr. Wierda at MDA. I will be most pleased if I can remain his patient for the remainder of the course of my disease. I suspect it would be fair to call him the resident expect on CLLvaccine/gene therapy at MDA. Best wishes, waynebettie grant <bettiejgrant@...> wrote: Thanks, Wayne. Good luck in the trial. Surely hope it works for you. May I ask who your doctor is at MD? Bettie Jane Re: vaccine Hi Bettie Jane. Would you want to share a little about your vaccine trial? (where the trial was, and what its results were) wayne ------------------- Wayne McPhersonCape Girardeau, MO.67, CLLdx 9/99, stage 1, trisomy 12, CD38+, unmutated, ZAP70+w & w, WBC 113K when MyVax began 3/1/07, now 161Kbettie grant <bettiejgrantmsn> wrote: Bettie Jane; age 72 Dx: 8/2002 Vaccine trial 12/2002 - 3/2003 Rituxan: 3/2003 - 9/2004 FC+R: 10/2004 - 3/2005 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Correct, . Different trials. Bettie Jane's trial was a HSPPC-96 trial back in 2002-2003, of which I have no knowledge. My trial is Genitope's trial of MyVax personalized Id-KLH vaccine, which recruited about 75 participants in the first half of 2006. waynejb50192@... wrote: Wayne and Bettie Jane - just want to make sure you're NOT on the same vaccine trial - See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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