Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 December, 2009 " A University of land School of Medicine researcher will lead the coordinating center for a consortium of our nation's most prominent scientists in the field of stem cell research. L. Terrin, M.D.,C.M.,M.P.H., professor of Epidemiology and Preventive Medicine, was chosen by the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute (NHLBI) to coordinate the research of this consortium of national experts, which will be called the NHLBI Progenitor Cell Biology Consortium. The coordinating center will be funded by a $30 million grant over seven years. " This consortium was developed to bring together the best and brightest researchers from around the country, in the new and rapidly advancing field of stem and progenitor cell biology. They come from several specialties -- cardiology, hematology and pulmonary medicine. All are doing cutting edge research in this exciting new field, " says Dr. Terrin. School Of Medicine Receives $30 Million Grant To Coordinate A Consortium Of National Stem Cell Experts http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/174320.php FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Hi there Lottie, I must have missed Ruth's post or just didn't get it....... ...that happens with . I might not reply very often to your wonderful research, but I do read it and personally think you are amazing how you find out all the information then share with the group! Please continue! Xxxxx  -- [ ] Stem cells Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don t understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We woul d welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 I agree, . Lottie is a real angel. ________________________________ From: Malseed <rodorbal@...> Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 3:41:53 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Stem cells Hi there Lottie, I must have missed Ruth's post or just didn't get it....... ...that happens with . I might not reply very often to your wonderful research, but I do read it and personally think you are amazing how you find out all the information then share with the group! Please continue! Xxxxx  -- [ ] Stem cells Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don t understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We woul d welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Hi everyone, I have no research to back up what I think or say, but I am going to say it anyway. It is my understanding they use embryonic cells from a petri (sp) dish, after they have taken what was needed to create life. If these stem cells are going to be destroyed, why not put them to use? What genius to even conceive the idea of creating a life this way, to say nothing of using it to save lives. Mr. Bush was against it, Mr. Obama said he was for it. But for political reasons they have stopped stem cell research, I hope temporarily. Another reason perhaps that congress is not behind their president? This is a huge moral and political issue. Myself, I prefer the old fashioned way of creating a life, but we live in a different world today and science has moved us into a whole new world of curing diseases. I think if any one of us had a child with a dreaded disease and knew he or she could be cured with today's research, we would jump at the chance to use it. I have a son in law with Parkinson's Disease, and believe me, I was devastated when they stopped the research last month, as I know in the near future it will help him be the man he used to be. Bobby a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29 DX 5/1995 Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years 02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU 06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU 06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU 04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months 04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich. 01/2009 PCR 5.69 04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534 09/2009 PCR 0.01 11/2009 PCR 0.034 02/2010 PCRU #840 Zavie's Zero Club From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> Subject: [ ] Stem cells " CML " < > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 3:04 AM  Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don't understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We would welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Again, folks, we should explore all avenues of stem cell research in a concerted effort to find cures for the diseases that afflict us and our children. If anyone is offended by embryonic stem cell research for religious or political reasons, then they should merely refuse participation in any of the fruits of such research. ________________________________ From: ROBERTA DOYLE <rcd1929@...> Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 5:24:17 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Stem cells Hi everyone, I have no research to back up what I think or say, but I am going to say it anyway. It is my understanding they use embryonic cells from a petri (sp) dish, after they have taken what was needed to create life. If these stem cells are going to be destroyed, why not put them to use? What genius to even conceive the idea of creating a life this way, to say nothing of using it to save lives. Mr. Bush was against it, Mr. Obama said he was for it. But for political reasons they have stopped stem cell research, I hope temporarily. Another reason perhaps that congress is not behind their president? This is a huge moral and political issue. Myself, I prefer the old fashioned way of creating a life, but we live in a different world today and science has moved us into a whole new world of curing diseases. I think if any one of us had a child with a dreaded disease and knew he or she could be cured with today's research, we would jump at the chance to use it. I have a son in law with Parkinson's Disease, and believe me, I was devastated when they stopped the research last month, as I know in the near future it will help him be the man he used to be. Bobby a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29 DX 5/1995 Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years 02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU 06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU 06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU 04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months 04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich. 01/2009 PCR 5.69 04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534 09/2009 PCR 0.01 11/2009 PCR 0.034 02/2010 PCRU #840 Zavie's Zero Club From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> Subject: [ ] Stem cells " CML " < > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 3:04 AM Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don't understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We would welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Lottie, again you do not have to justify what you post. Even if information you post reflects your own opinions, so be it. You have a right to express your opinions; we all do. And we all have a right to debate and discuss each others ideas. I am always impressed as to how well informed people on this list are. BTW, I have been posting to these CML lists for eight years. In the early days, some of the posts got very nasty and people with axes to grind would get very angry. Much of it involved the nexus of medicine and politics. I really like this list because people have been collegial and civil. Best, Carl P.S. I also recommend Anjana's Asian list for the same reasons. Like Lottie, she is an amazing person. ________________________________ From: ROBERTA DOYLE <rcd1929@...> Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 5:24:17 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Stem cells Hi everyone, I have no research to back up what I think or say, but I am going to say it anyway. It is my understanding they use embryonic cells from a petri (sp) dish, after they have taken what was needed to create life. If these stem cells are going to be destroyed, why not put them to use? What genius to even conceive the idea of creating a life this way, to say nothing of using it to save lives. Mr. Bush was against it, Mr. Obama said he was for it. But for political reasons they have stopped stem cell research, I hope temporarily. Another reason perhaps that congress is not behind their president? This is a huge moral and political issue. Myself, I prefer the old fashioned way of creating a life, but we live in a different world today and science has moved us into a whole new world of curing diseases. I think if any one of us had a child with a dreaded disease and knew he or she could be cured with today's research, we would jump at the chance to use it. I have a son in law with Parkinson's Disease, and believe me, I was devastated when they stopped the research last month, as I know in the near future it will help him be the man he used to be. Bobby a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29 DX 5/1995 Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years 02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU 06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU 06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU 04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months 04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich. 01/2009 PCR 5.69 04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534 09/2009 PCR 0.01 11/2009 PCR 0.034 02/2010 PCRU #840 Zavie's Zero Club From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> Subject: [ ] Stem cells " CML " < > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 3:04 AM Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don't understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We would welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: " marcon " <marcon@...> CML Subject: stem cells Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:13:00 -0400 Dear Lottie, My irritation wasn't with you at all. I did some research because I wanted to know the source. The emphasis on " adult stem cells " didn't ring true to me. What I found is a connection to the Family Research Council, an organization of the Christian right, Dobson's group. They oppose embryonic stem cell research & many other things. The council and I have vastly different political views. The way these cases were presented leads a reader to believe there's no need for anything but adult stem cells. The agenda of this organization is to secure a ban on all embryonic stem cell research. My questioning of the cord blood is that there just wasn't enough info to judge the case. I don't doubt you or your intentions for even a second. And I meant no personal criticism. I was reacting to the source & their political agenda. My best Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 With many of these extreme right wing advocacy groups, the issue of embryonic stem cell research is part and parcel to their opposition to a woman's right to make her own medical decisions about her own body. (So, in my opinion, it is more about control of women than anything else. Ironically many of the " fertility clinics " that perform in vitro fertilization are religiously oriented. They actually discard fertilized eggs that they do not need. Yet they will not make these embryonic cells available for research that could someday save lives, the lives of babies and children. Makes no sense to me................ ________________________________ From: marcon <marcon@...> Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 6:15:51 AM Subject: [ ] Fwd: stem cells ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: " marcon " <marcon@...> CML Subject: stem cells Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:13:00 -0400 Dear Lottie, My irritation wasn't with you at all. I did some research because I wanted to know the source. The emphasis on " adult stem cells " didn't ring true to me. What I found is a connection to the Family Research Council, an organization of the Christian right, Dobson's group. They oppose embryonic stem cell research & many other things. The council and I have vastly different political views. The way these cases were presented leads a reader to believe there's no need for anything but adult stem cells. The agenda of this organization is to secure a ban on all embryonic stem cell research. My questioning of the cord blood is that there just wasn't enough info to judge the case. I don't doubt you or your intentions for even a second. And I meant no personal criticism. I was reacting to the source & their political agenda. My best Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Amen Bobby Sharon Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T [ ] Stem cells " CML " < > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 3:04 AM Â Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don't understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We would welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 That is like arguing that if we find unsolicited medical testing on African Americans and Guatemalans, then we should just not participate. Profiting off of human death is not just a personal issue. You can disagree, but do not be so arrogant as to dismiss. [ ] Stem cells " CML " < <mailto:%40> > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 3:04 AM Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don't understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We would welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Folks  Sensitive subject here and I am against embryonic stem cell research. While everybody has their own opinion and believes, I clearly do not want to be told to do with mine. From: Carl Davies <ctdavies2003@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Stem cells Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 8:19 AM  I agree, . Lottie is a real angel. ________________________________ From: Malseed <rodorbal@...> Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 3:41:53 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Stem cells Hi there Lottie, I must have missed Ruth's post or just didn't get it....... ...that happens with . I might not reply very often to your wonderful research, but I do read it and personally think you are amazing how you find out all the information then share with the group! Please continue! Xxxxx  -- [ ] Stem cells Dear Ruth, I am sorry but I have no answer to your question. I am not a scientist, I find articles from journals that I find interesting and that some in the group can relate to. If this is something you would like to pursue or have issues with, you could research and report to us any articles that will back up your theory. Some may want to engage you, or just read it for the sake of reading it. I have no agenda, I just share what I find, I never try to be offensive in any way, but it is something in the news frequently. I just report it for the news. Perhaps I am one of the ignorant ones, because I don t understand your stance. I was not aware that there was any deception in citing the story of the Unsent Letter about someone who was supposedly " cured " through a stem cell transplant, I was merely posting the story to show how much progress has been made with stem cells. Whether we are ready for it or not, it is the future according to all of the articles I have read. I do not post " junk science " and back up everthing with my source. It is my understanding that cord blood can be stored for some time. I have heard of women who had children in their 40's in order to save the cord blood to save an older child who needed a transplant. I was corresponding with a woman from Puerto Rico who was doing just that. Some people save the cord blood from their children's birth in case they would ever need it for the children at a later date. If you have articles professing a different angle that is more in line with your thinking, there is nothing to prevent you for posting it. We woul d welcome it. You may or may not get a response. Not everything I post gets the attention this post has, some have no response at all. I do this on a voluntary basis, but if enough people complain or protest these posts, then there is no reason for me to spend my time doing it. Carpe diem, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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