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Have you considered that she might not be having a good reaction to melatonin. I myself , would not pursue interventions while my child is ill. If you are trying different things at once how are you going to be able to tell what your child is reacting to. Just a thought. This might be an allergic reaction to. kelly

And I kept giving her

melatonin! She ended up taking about 7mg!!! Before the night was over!

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Laurie, I have been going through the archives and it seems you did

the right thing. When you start back up on the ALA half the dosage.

Also were you giving it every three hours and someone said do not use

the solar ray brand (I think). nne

-- In @y..., Laurie Hunter <chinamom@p...> wrote:

>

> Ok, we did round 2 of ALA only this week, but then I got a little

panicy....

> Grace was up until 10 last night then out till 12:30 and then up

again until

> 5:30 this am back up at 8! Only about 5 hours! And I kept giving her

> melatonin! She ended up taking about 7mg!!! Before the night was

over!

>

> She also was real itchy, her face was puffy and had little spots on

her face

> this am, and now has them on her trunk tonight.... Is this the

Mercury rash

> I keep hearing about???

>

> She seems less stimmy while on the ALA, but she has done alittle

regression

> in language this weekend. I probably should have waited since her

cold is

> not yet gone!

>

> Anyhow, I stopped a day early! did I do the right thing? Try again

next

> weekend???

>

> Laurie

> Mom to Grace 3.9

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Creatinine is often low in toxic folks. As you chelate, it should get

better. As I understand it, it is an indicator of how well you process

protein and how well your kidneys work. When my son's first showed low, our

doc did a blood creatinine test to make sure it wasn't really high and the

urine really low. That would indicate some kidney problems, according to

him. As we've chelated, both our creatinine levels have normalized.

Gaylen

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If blood creatine is normal, does this rule out toxicity? Heidi Re: [ ] Help! Creatinine is often low in toxic folks. As you chelate, it should getbetter. As I understand it, it is an indicator of how well you processprotein and how well your kidneys work. When my son's first showed low, ourdoc did a blood creatinine test to make sure it wasn't really high and theurine really low. That would indicate some kidney problems, according tohim. As we've chelated, both our creatinine levels have normalized.Gaylen

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This isn't significant. It means he was drinking a lot of water

during the test - which most people do during a " challenge test. "

Andy

> I have before me a urine toxic elements test results from DDI on my

> son. At the bottom it says his creatinine is 71.7 mg/dl. The

> reference range is 75-200 mg/dl. At first glance, it didn't seem to

> be too out of line. Then I looked to the right and saw that it is

up

> to two standard deviations below the norm! This is a post

> provocative challenge result. What is creatinine and what do low

> levels mean here? Should I be doing something to bring the levels

> up? And what would that be? Andy? Bernie? Anyone? HELP!

> Thanks,

> Sus

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Most of our children score poorly on the IQ tests, but many of them are

really bright. Many IQ tests and many psychologists who administer the

IQ tests do not take into consideration the child's communiation

deficit. It is hard to score a child who does not respond to you even

if she knows the answer. Due to this, traditionally, children with

autism are thought to have mental retardation. Recent research shows

that autism is primarily a deficit in social skills, with related

deficits in communication and language skills. The traditional

assumption of mental retardation in children with autism has given way

to the understanding that these children have varied degrees of

cognitive abilities, and that their scores for cognitive testing often

improve once their social/communication skills improve (See Educating

Chidlren with Autism, by National Research Council, 2001, pp. 27, 47-50,

168-170.). Furthermore, the previous assumption that autism is an

untreatable mental condition is being replaced by the belief that

children with autism can improve dramatically if they were given early

and appropriate interventions (Educating Chidlren with

Autism,151). Finally, the recent individualistic approach dictates that,

aside from the common denominator of social-skill deficit, children with

autism are unique individuals with diverse behavior and physiological

patterns. A single test usually does not test a child's true ability,

especially when the person who administers the test does not know the

child well. Your doctor does not seem to be aware the recent research.

I would definitely get a second opinion.

Best,

lukne2001 wrote:

>I just took my 2 year old to the Oregon Health and Sciences

>University for a diagnosis and they told me that not only is she

>mildly autistic, but she is also mentally retarded with an IQ in the

>high 60's. The developmental pediatrician said that she may face a

>future living in group homes or at least she'll need special

>assistance with thinks like balancing her check book, etc.

>

>The doctor also said that IQ scores rarely climb from the 60's to

>normal range even in kids that young.

>

>She is 27 months old and expressively she has 20 words and

>receptively she has many more. She doesn't obey commands like " Come

>here " or " Sit down " . But isn't one morning of testing a two year

>old jumping the gun a bit on telling me that she'll likely never go

>to college? As the doctor was so kind to tell me.

>

>If she does have mental retardation, will an ABA program really help

>her?

>

>My 4 year old has AS so I know about autism and ABA, but this

>mentally retarded diagnosis has really thrown me for a loop. Has

>anyone else ever experienced anything similar to this?

>

>I'm freaking . . .

>

>

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I would not stress too much over a label. It's useful for getting services

your child needs, and that's all it's useful for.

It doesn't tell you anything about your child's future. That will be

determined by your child, not a label that somebody gave him or her.

Try to take advantage of the things a label DOES get your child. It might

be extra services such as speech or occupational therapy, or it might be

financial assistance, or an aide to give you a break.

Look on the bright side, and don't let the negative associations you may

have with that label get you down.

If life hands you a bowl of lemons, make lemonade!

P.S. When Kenny was 27 months old, I was told he would never talk and would

need to be institutionalized. Well, he does talk, and he's nowhere near

needing to be in an institution! So never give up!

s (Cary, NC) (who seems to have lots of lemonade on hand at all

times!)

persistentC@...

President and Executive Director

The Mariposa School for Children with Autism

www.MariposaSchool.org

919-461-0600

Re: [ ] HELP!

Most of our children score poorly on the IQ tests, but many of them are

really bright. Many IQ tests and many psychologists who administer the

IQ tests do not take into consideration the child's communiation

deficit. It is hard to score a child who does not respond to you even

if she knows the answer. Due to this, traditionally, children with

autism are thought to have mental retardation. Recent research shows

that autism is primarily a deficit in social skills, with related

deficits in communication and language skills. The traditional

assumption of mental retardation in children with autism has given way

to the understanding that these children have varied degrees of

cognitive abilities, and that their scores for cognitive testing often

improve once their social/communication skills improve (See Educating

Chidlren with Autism, by National Research Council, 2001, pp. 27, 47-50,

168-170.). Furthermore, the previous assumption that autism is an

untreatable mental condition is being replaced by the belief that

children with autism can improve dramatically if they were given early

and appropriate interventions (Educating Chidlren with

Autism,151). Finally, the recent individualistic approach dictates that,

aside from the common denominator of social-skill deficit, children with

autism are unique individuals with diverse behavior and physiological

patterns. A single test usually does not test a child's true ability,

especially when the person who administers the test does not know the

child well. Your doctor does not seem to be aware the recent research.

I would definitely get a second opinion.

Best,

lukne2001 wrote:

>I just took my 2 year old to the Oregon Health and Sciences

>University for a diagnosis and they told me that not only is she

>mildly autistic, but she is also mentally retarded with an IQ in the

>high 60's. The developmental pediatrician said that she may face a

>future living in group homes or at least she'll need special

>assistance with thinks like balancing her check book, etc.

>

>The doctor also said that IQ scores rarely climb from the 60's to

>normal range even in kids that young.

>

>She is 27 months old and expressively she has 20 words and

>receptively she has many more. She doesn't obey commands like " Come

>here " or " Sit down " . But isn't one morning of testing a two year

>old jumping the gun a bit on telling me that she'll likely never go

>to college? As the doctor was so kind to tell me.

>

>If she does have mental retardation, will an ABA program really help

>her?

>

>My 4 year old has AS so I know about autism and ABA, but this

>mentally retarded diagnosis has really thrown me for a loop. Has

>anyone else ever experienced anything similar to this?

>

>I'm freaking . . .

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>List moderators: Jenn - ABAqueen1@...

> Steph - Stephhulshof@...

>

>Post message:

>Subscribe: -subscribe

>Unsubscribe: -unsubscribe

>

>

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and group,

When Colin was three, a Ph.D. in psych/local Lovaas guru thought that if he

could be tested his IQ would be in the mid thirties. About the same time a

developmental pediatrician diagnosed autism making his official medical

dx/autism and spastic diplegia,a type of CP. At about the same time a teacher

with a Ph.D. in special education and 10 years of experience said he thought

Colin was really smart.

That was nearly 10 years ago. He read at age three. He has learned to make

friends with no spoken language at all. He is a popular sixth grader who earned

two As on his first quarter report card.

Follow the child. Teach what the child wants to learn. Love and accept

your child. Labels are important only if they lead you to find people who can

help you help your child.

, Colin P's mom

Re: [ ] HELP!

Most of our children score poorly on the IQ tests, but many of them are

really bright. Many IQ tests and many psychologists who administer the

IQ tests do not take into consideration the child's communiation

deficit. It is hard to score a child who does not respond to you even

if she knows the answer. Due to this, traditionally, children with

autism are thought to have mental retardation. Recent research shows

that autism is primarily a deficit in social skills, with related

deficits in communication and language skills. The traditional

assumption of mental retardation in children with autism has given way

to the understanding that these children have varied degrees of

cognitive abilities, and that their scores for cognitive testing often

improve once their social/communication skills improve (See Educating

Chidlren with Autism, by National Research Council, 2001, pp. 27, 47-50,

168-170.). Furthermore, the previous assumption that autism is an

untreatable mental condition is being replaced by the belief that

children with autism can improve dramatically if they were given early

and appropriate interventions (Educating Chidlren with

Autism,151). Finally, the recent individualistic approach dictates that,

aside from the common denominator of social-skill deficit, children with

autism are unique individuals with diverse behavior and physiological

patterns. A single test usually does not test a child's true ability,

especially when the person who administers the test does not know the

child well. Your doctor does not seem to be aware the recent research.

I would definitely get a second opinion.

Best,

lukne2001 wrote:

>I just took my 2 year old to the Oregon Health and Sciences

>University for a diagnosis and they told me that not only is she

>mildly autistic, but she is also mentally retarded with an IQ in the

>high 60's. The developmental pediatrician said that she may face a

>future living in group homes or at least she'll need special

>assistance with thinks like balancing her check book, etc.

>

>The doctor also said that IQ scores rarely climb from the 60's to

>normal range even in kids that young.

>

>She is 27 months old and expressively she has 20 words and

>receptively she has many more. She doesn't obey commands like " Come

>here " or " Sit down " . But isn't one morning of testing a two year

>old jumping the gun a bit on telling me that she'll likely never go

>to college? As the doctor was so kind to tell me.

>

>If she does have mental retardation, will an ABA program really help

>her?

>

>My 4 year old has AS so I know about autism and ABA, but this

>mentally retarded diagnosis has really thrown me for a loop. Has

>anyone else ever experienced anything similar to this?

>

>I'm freaking . . .

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>List moderators: Jenn - ABAqueen1@...

> Steph - Stephhulshof@...

>

>Post message:

>Subscribe: -subscribe

>Unsubscribe: -unsubscribe

>

>

>

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to get to the weight loss program.  Please help, thanks,

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04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months

04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich.

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