Guest guest Posted July 23, 2000 Report Share Posted July 23, 2000 All the nutritional books that I have come across say to strictly avoid farm raised fish. Even my doctor has given handouts to his patients that inform us not to eat farm raised fish. Instead, we're encouraged to eat deep ocean fish like salmon, orange roughy and mackeral. sincerely rhonda jones90319@... writes: > Now that a lot of our fish in the USA is farmed - raised in man made > ponds, I bet it is safer than the wild caught fish. > I would think that a fish farmer would not want any pollutants or > disease in his fish - as he could lose a lot of business if it was > traced to him. > > I would rather eat farm raised fish because they do not have to live > in our filthy lakes & rivers that the public dumps all kinds of trash > & chemicals into. > > There was an article in the Readers Digest a few years ago about the > mercury poisoning in a bay in the Orient. The local people became > very ill eating the contaminated fish. I think it also caused birth > defects. > Sue > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Free @Backup service! Click here for your free trial of @Backup. > @Backup is the most convenient way to securely protect and access > your files online. Try it now and receive 300 MyPoints. > 1/6348/1/_/478268/_/964310137/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2000 Report Share Posted July 23, 2000 Here on the West Coast in Canada we are concerned about fish-farms. The fish are given antibiotics, they are destroying the ocean under them. On the whole the citizens are becoming very concerned about this situation. Ruth in Western Canada jones90319@... wrote: > Now that a lot of our fish in the USA is farmed - raised in man made > ponds, I bet it is safer than the wild caught fish. > I would think that a fish farmer would not want any pollutants or > disease in his fish - as he could lose a lot of business if it was > traced to him. > > I would rather eat farm raised fish because they do not have to live > in our filthy lakes & rivers that the public dumps all kinds of trash > & chemicals into. > > There was an article in the Readers Digest a few years ago about the > mercury poisoning in a bay in the Orient. The local people became > very ill eating the contaminated fish. I think it also caused birth > defects. > Sue > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Pearl and Liz were talking about fish. Pearl went down to the docks and wondered what to do with fish that fresh. <LOL> Pearl, you don't want to know, and no, those fishermen will not gut, head and filet your fish for you. The nearest seafood shop will, though, if you buy it there. When the fish are filleted, the living parasites evacuate immediately and get thrown in with the other fish waste, then probably used as chum for catching more fish. It's a fascinating sight, but not one you really want to dwell on when thinking of dinner. Frozen anything is not as good as fresh, but if it's the only way you can get fish, that's fine. Canned is a little worse, but still better than no fish at all. Sushi is select fish carefully prepared and I have never gotten sick from it. But then I have never lived more than ten miles from the coast, and I know what fish are local. It is probably better to eat cooked fish anyway, just as cooked meat and eggs and dairy are preferable. (Yogurt and milk are essentially cooked before you get it.) For canned breakfast fish, try kippered snacks in a long flat tin, much larger tin than anchovies, and a smokier taste. Eat the softened bones in any canned fish for the calcium. Mash them with a fork if the idea bothers you. I eat canned tuna or salmon a couple of times a week. Cod, flounder, bass, sole, grouper, trout, red snapper are all pretty mild fish. Avoid bluefish and mackerel and shad if you don't like fishy fish. I love them. You can saute, bake, broil, or microwave fish, until it flakes with a fork. The translucent flesh will be opaque white. A fish filet takes a lot less time than a steak or hamburger. Rose __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 At 11:50 PM 2/18/2002 +0800, you wrote: >Hi, > >About fish. I saw contradictory reports on whether Salmon is safe to eat. > >The one in Dr Amy's said that Salmon is probably the safest to eat. > >While on the FAQ it says that esp Salmon is toxic with mercury. > >So which is which?? > >Jac If you want another opinion LOL, Andy says (in ANDY_INDEX) that salmon is pretty okay to eat.... Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 We only eat salmon from Alaska. It comes in the spring and we freeze a ton. The water is evidently less mercury-toxic. [ ] fish > Hi, > > About fish. I saw contradictory reports on whether Salmon is safe to eat. > > The one in Dr Amy's said that Salmon is probably the safest to eat. > > While on the FAQ it says that esp Salmon is toxic with mercury. > > So which is which?? > > Jac > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 There is no " less mercury-toxic " !!! If one is susceptible to mercury, you'll react to each molecule of mercury. [ ] fish > Hi, > > About fish. I saw contradictory reports on whether Salmon is safe to eat. > > The one in Dr Amy's said that Salmon is probably the safest to eat. > > While on the FAQ it says that esp Salmon is toxic with mercury. > > So which is which?? > > Jac > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Have any of you farmed your own fish so you can control the water quality? It's a similar idea to raising an organic garden. But instead it'll be raising organic fish. http://www.cropking.com/ http://www.cropking.com/aquaponics.shtml http://www.cityfarmer.org/wormcomp61.html#wormcompost (last url is to grow worms for your fish to make your room a 'sustainable farm') \\\ =(o o)= ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--V---+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Rand, > >Right on about the diseased farm-raised fish. One additional fact is that about 80% of all antibioitcs used in the U.S. are consumed by farm-raised fish and animals because they are so unhealthy they would die if not treated. So if you like antibiotics, eat farm-raised animals and fish. Oh well!!! Regards, Ben > >Rand wrote- >Ben and , >The " farm raised fish " are genetically modified to grow faster this has created a more aggressive fish (up to 6 times more aggressive). >The following is from http://www.lcanimal.org/cmpgn/cmpgn_010.htm >Rand > > >Fish, like all other vertebrates, feel pain. Farmed fish are crowded into such small enclosures that disease and suffocation are common. Since the water the fish swim in is filled with excrement and other health dangers, farmers feed fish chemicals, herbicides, and drugs, which end up in the bodies of fish-eating consumers. When the fish reach slaughter weight, they are placed in trucks and taken to the kill plant. Once there, they are poured into large metal mesh cages. Those who have survived the transport die of suffocation. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 Do you think fish would eat flack seeds? If they did eat it, would they be rich in Omega 3s? Omega designer eggs are now rich in Omega-3s (essential fatty acids), and these eggs are great for your immune system as well as for a healthy heart. So, if you feed fish flack seeds, they may be rich in Omega 3s. Or are Flack seeds too tough for fish to eat? If so, perhaps the seeds could be soaked, or be put in a coffee grinder, before feeding? Or would that contaminate the water? \\\ =(o o)= ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--V---+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > >Have any of you farmed your own fish so you can control the water >quality? It's a similar idea to raising an organic garden. But >instead it'll be raising organic fish. > >http://www.cropking.com/ >http://www.cropking.com/aquaponics.shtml >http://www.cityfarmer.org/wormcomp61.html#wormcompost > >(last url is to grow worms for your fish to make your room a >'sustainable farm') > \\\ > =(o o)= >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--V---+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > >> > >>Rand, >> >>Right on about the diseased farm-raised fish. One additional fact is that about 80% of all antibioitcs used in the U.S. are consumed by farm-raised fish and animals because they are so unhealthy they would die if not treated. So if you like antibiotics, eat farm-raised animals and fish. Oh well!!! Regards, Ben >> >>Rand wrote- >>Ben and , >>The " farm raised fish " are genetically modified to grow faster this has created a more aggressive fish (up to 6 times more aggressive). >>The following is from http://www.lcanimal.org/cmpgn/cmpgn_010.htm >>Rand >> >> >>Fish, like all other vertebrates, feel pain. Farmed fish are crowded into such small enclosures that disease and suffocation are common. Since the water the fish swim in is filled with excrement and other health dangers, farmers feed fish chemicals, herbicides, and drugs, which end up in the bodies of fish-eating consumers. When the fish reach slaughter weight, they are placed in trucks and taken to the kill plant. Once there, they are poured into large metal mesh cages. Those who have survived the transport die of suffocation. >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 , Here is a link to an article on Dr. Mercola's website that is pretty comprehensive on which fish are safe to eat. He says most aren't but some are. best of luck, Joyce http://www.mercola.com/2001/apr/25/mercury_fish.htm fish > Im new here so please be patient with me. > Ocean fish is polluted and farm fish are sick with anitbiotics etc.. so i cant eat fish unless its caught ... where??? And what type of fish is worse to eat than others ??? Thanks.. lisa > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 fish Hi : Please read the article on eradiated food. Walt Im new here so please be patient with me. Ocean fish is polluted and farm fish are sick with anitbiotics etc.. so i cant eat fish unless its caught ... where??? And what type of fish is worse to eat than others ??? Thanks.. lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Provolt <chkwoods@...> wrote:Im new here so please be patient with me. Ocean fish is polluted and farm fish are sick with anitbiotics etc.. so i cant eat fish unless its caught ... where??? And what type of fish is worse to eat than others ??? Thanks.. lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 HI ; I would just check with the person or manager of the fish market or supermarket of where the fish come from and stay away from the farmed fish for sure..Usually the wild salmon; sole; halibut etc..are OK; but there have be some mutation in a very low percentage of fish caught..Not enough to alarm you now; but there's no telling what the future holds..Actually there are prophecies regarding the state of the ocean and the life therein, but I don't want to alarm anyone!!! It is pretty near impossible to clean up the mess in the ocean and in fact it will get worse, but for now " wild " ocean fish are mostly safe to eat if bought in " filltets " rather than the fish in cans; where it's hard to detect what kind of state the fish was in before canning.. melville.. ;-) Re: fish Provolt <chkwoods@...> wrote:Im new here so please be patient with me. Ocean fish is polluted and farm fish are sick with anitbiotics etc.. so i cant eat fish unless its caught ... where??? And what type of fish is worse to eat than others ??? Thanks.. lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Oh my gosh, what a funny story! Is it safe to assume that puppy is still attached to the ground????? Debby [ ] fish its so nice to see some posts....anyone would think I havent anything to do all day even tho Im a mere housewife of a sorts. Yesterday I was suffering from a lack of sleep & actually spent most of the day ( & night) in bed. It was all because of 4 goldfish. Hubby installed a small water feature in my new small sunken garden which is isolated from the rest of the garden. Ian says this is Jan's get away from it all garden with the trickling water supposed to induce tranquility. Havent used it yet as the weather has been so cold & atrocious, the winds up here on top of the cliff are so strong weve being tying a lifeline on the vandal pup's collar so he doesnt fly away like mary poppins with his Boxer flappy jowls fully inflated like an umbrella. Anyway, hubby came home with 4 goldfish and plonked them in the small 3 x 3ft pond, which is only 4 inches deep and left them to it. The howling wind was so fierce it was like they were being constantly dumped in ocean waves. I dreamt all night about them and even got up at 3 to start some sort of rescue mission on them but decided not to open the door as our roof was shuddering away. Our neighbour's TV again was bent to look like some sort of pretzel. Oh those poor fish. Never did get back to sleep. Waited until the shops opened in town and zoomed down to get a fishbowl. Got to the shop and saw dozens of varying sizes, in the end being in a zombie brain fuzz, I thought what the heck, and pointed to a fully equipped aquarium, with lights, filter, plants, stones & rocks and pointed to it and said I'll take that. Too heavy for me to carry but the staff managed to get it on the back seat of my car and fastened the seat belt around it and I trundled back up the hill. Ian's jaw fell so low it almost touched his knees and said but we've only got 4 baby goldfish...I just said that with all that they've gone thru they deserve a little luxury now in their lives ! Took a while for Ian to come around, but he sat 3ft away all evening watching the fish swim around. BTW fancy me making such a long post to talk about about fish. Love Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 I take flax oil capsules for it is even better than fish oil. It is a plant so there is no mercury. lisa > Hi whoever! > > What types of fish should we eat? What about farm raised catfish? > Too bad we can't farm raise flounder ( my fave ). I have neen told > albacore tuna is better, but how? I know my doctor has mentioned > being concerned about the sources of fish oil in supplements having > mercury contamination. > So, we should avoid fish then? > Joanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 I like my salmon cured with salt and herbs: Gravlox! Yum yum. The " Silver Palate New Basics Cookbook " has a great recipe, and I think there's one in NT as well. It takes a few days. I buy my WILD line-caught salmon from eco-fish (it's frozen and can be bought at a hfs). Fish > Does anyone know where to buy good quality salmon, mackarel or other fish? > Also, how ya'll cook it? I want to use minimal heat, so I guess poaching? > Any tips are welcome. Thanks! > > Michele > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 That's good to know. I am always looking for wild line-caught salmon. So for, none of the hfs have it around here. I need to find out more about how to get it in my hfs. Thanks, Del > I like my salmon cured with salt and herbs: Gravlox! Yum yum. The " Silver > Palate New Basics Cookbook " has a great recipe, and I think there's one in > NT as well. It takes a few days. I buy my WILD line-caught salmon from > eco-fish (it's frozen and can be bought at a hfs). > > > > Fish > > > > Does anyone know where to buy good quality salmon, mackarel or other fish? > > Also, how ya'll cook it? I want to use minimal heat, so I guess poaching? > > Any tips are welcome. Thanks! > > > > Michele > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Don't worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the > holidays. > > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Quoting Delano Eaton <mushimushi@...>: > That's good to know. I am always looking for wild line-caught salmon. > So for, none of the hfs have it around here. I need to find out more > about how to get it in my hfs. What's wrong with troll-caught? -- Berg bberg@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Here's their website: http://www.ecofish.com/ It's pretty expensive...you can also call around to the fresh fish stores and ask if they have Alaskan salmon (afaik, there is no farmed salmon from Alaska: it's illegal). Fish > > > > Does anyone know where to buy good quality salmon, mackarel or other fish? > > Also, how ya'll cook it? I want to use minimal heat, so I guess poaching? > > Any tips are welcome. Thanks! > > > > Michele > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Don't worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the > holidays. > > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Yeah, not farm raised but here, if I find it it has added colors are something. I have bought it from a resturant here before. They get fresh shipments daily. The last time I got it, it wasn't very good. I think they sold me the day old salmon. Thanks for the link. I will check it out. Del > > I like my salmon cured with salt and herbs: Gravlox! Yum yum. > The " Silver > > Palate New Basics Cookbook " has a great recipe, and I think there's > one in > > NT as well. It takes a few days. I buy my WILD line-caught salmon > from > > eco-fish (it's frozen and can be bought at a hfs). > > > > > > > > Fish > > > > > > > Does anyone know where to buy good quality salmon, mackarel or > other fish? > > > Also, how ya'll cook it? I want to use minimal heat, so I guess > poaching? > > > Any tips are welcome. Thanks! > > > > > > Michele > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Don't worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the > > holidays. > > > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Thank you for the info ... sorry it took so long for me to write. Exam week. >From: " " <jc137@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: Re: Fish >Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:25:05 -0500 > >Here's their website: > >http://www.ecofish.com/ > >It's pretty expensive...you can also call around to the fresh fish stores >and ask if they have Alaskan salmon (afaik, there is no farmed salmon from >Alaska: it's illegal). > > > Fish > > > > > > > Does anyone know where to buy good quality salmon, mackarel or > other fish? > > > Also, how ya'll cook it? I want to use minimal heat, so I guess > poaching? > > > Any tips are welcome. Thanks! > > > > > > Michele > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Don't worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the > > holidays. > > > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Whole Foods and Trader Joes both have cheap wild Alaskan salmon in the frozen section. WF stores were selling Pan Island near me and switched to 365 Days. They're less than half the price of the non-frozen WA salmon I've found. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Debby: Sounds good....Yes, I like cod , myself. Cliff likes to go deep sea fishing. He goes of the coast of Rock Port, Mass. That is 1/2 hour north of Boston. He doesn't like fish-- unless, it is deep fried. I never learned to swim, so I wouldn't like it at all-- ... Cliff wants to know what a ling Cod is? He usually catches Cod or Haddock. I like the Cod better...... He also likes to go ice-fishing. Debby , where do you live? On the west Coast? Enjoy your fish... Also, glad you had a great time. Love,Gaynel & Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 OHHHHHHH! I am so jealous. I havae a big craving for fish, so my husband is going to the local supermarket to try and find something close to fresh. It will probably come from the freezer section. Doesn't compare does it. Thanks for sharing! Kathy from Canada --- tdcc2000 <tdcc2000@...> wrote: --------------------------------- Ohhhh I am totally enjoying my dinner tonight. My hubby and son in law got up at 2 AM to drive to the coast to go deep sea fishing and OHHHHH it is sooooo good. I fixed some for me, and it is just melting in my mouth! They caught two Ling Cod too and THOSE are for tomorrow dinner. Those melt before getting into your mouth because they are so rich and good tasting. Thanks for letting me share! Debby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 I live on the west coast in California…..it is foggy here, but it is nice….hot in the summer, cold in the winter! LOL….wish we could move, but don’t think that will happen! Debby Re: [ ] Fish Debby: Sounds good....Yes, I like cod , myself. Cliff likes to go deep sea fishing. He goes of the coast of Rock Port, Mass. That is 1/2 hour north of Boston. He doesn't like fish-- unless, it is deep fried. I never learned to swim, so I wouldn't like it at all-- ... Cliff wants to know what a ling Cod is? He usually catches Cod or Haddock. I like the Cod better...... He also likes to go ice-fishing. Debby , where do you live? On the west Coast? Enjoy your fish... Also, glad you had a great time. Love, Gaynel & Cliff Group Rules 1. Please no religious, political, race or sexual preference discussions. 2. NO slamming of other members, advertising or vulgarity. Thank you! To UNsubscribe send a blank e-mail to -unsubscribeegroups Groups Links · To visit your group on the web, go to: / · Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hi ! AAAhh fish!! My first question is what kind of fish do you buy? I swear the kind of fish makes a lot of difference to me. My favorite is Tilapia...can you get it there? It is mild, reasonably firm and actually almost sweet. Before bfl I used to just lightly flour it (with whole wheat flour too!) and then lightly saute it in a smidge of olive oil then throw in white wine and just let it simmer til done. Very simple, quick and tasty. I also sometimes squeeze in some lemon juice to change it up. Is cooking in wine acceptable? I haven't checked that one out yet. Being Italian I usually use wine in everything!!! I would imagine using a dry white wine shouldn't be too bad. whaddya think? I also do salmon by dousing it with all my favorite spices thickly like a rub...basil, garlic, parsley, oregano, pepper, etc and then just saute in spray olive oil and douse with a little wine again at the end...or I do the salmon the same way but in the oven. oooh--I almost forgot...I also have this " sicilian baked fish " recipe that i am SURE is acceptable!! ok -gosh I am so excited i forgot about this one!! first you saute some fresh garlic in a bit of olive oil, then add your fish(a firmer fish is better for this recipe but I have done it with cheap white fish too and made it work back when we were poorer than we are now!) Once the fish is mostly cooked on both sides you add about a 1/4 cup white vinegar--let about 1/2 of it simmer out then you add chopped whole tomatoes (either canned or fresh works) and about a cup or so of peas cover and let the whole thing simmer for a bit and serve of course season to taste and thats it! (the vinegar really takes any fishy taste completely away-this has a great tangy taste to it-really hearty dish!) Well I hope you like at least one of these! Let me know!! Dorina > Last week I looked at the fish I'd bought for dinner and > thought " blah " . Fish with rice and broccoli. Again. I ended up > cutting up a potato and making oven baked wedges with it, so that was > OK, I almost felt like I was having fish & chips! But I digress. > I'm not a good cook, so I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on > how to make fish more interesting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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