Fever

[Guest guest]

Just wondering if anyone's children had low grade fevers on anti viral? My

son seems to be making gains on Famvir. However we have had up and down

moments. He had and ear infection that I thought was over. Then tonight after

a really good day he got a low grade fever. I would love to see Dr. G move

to the next step but, I have known idea what he will do with this information.

I asked Dr. G's office to send me his lab work. I am having some trouble

understanding some of it. There are several things out of normal

range...which seem to be auto immune issues, growth hormone etc. So why is Dr.

G.

waiting? Anyway right now I have the fever issues. I just am looking for that

one push towards more social behavior with his peers. His teacher is

wonderful and tells me all the time that Autistic children do not have such a

connection to their parents. I just want him to have fun with the other

kids...

instead he just looks tired on the play yard or quietly plays by himself. I

must say speech and academics are really starting to move.

Any thoughts would be wonderful.

Thanks again,

P.S. His teacher is writing her thesis on and my son.

[Guest guest]

" instead he just looks tired on the play yard or quietly plays by

himself "

I know this guy! He is suffering from viral symptoms and does not

feel well! But he will get better. Try tylenol or motrin to ease

the symptoms....try to treat him like a sick kid instead of an A

kid. And you want Dr G to move at a slow pace so your son's body

has time to adjust to new meds, and you can observe the results.

> Just wondering if anyone's children had low grade fevers on anti

viral? My

> son seems to be making gains on Famvir. However we have had up

and down

> moments. He had and ear infection that I thought was over. Then

tonight after

> a really good day he got a low grade fever. I would love to see

Dr. G move

> to the next step but, I have known idea what he will do with this

information.

> I asked Dr. G's office to send me his lab work. I am having

some trouble

> understanding some of it. There are several things out of

normal

> range...which seem to be auto immune issues, growth hormone etc.

So why is Dr. G.

> waiting? Anyway right now I have the fever issues. I just am

looking for that

> one push towards more social behavior with his peers. His

teacher is

> wonderful and tells me all the time that Autistic children do not

have such a

> connection to their parents. I just want him to have fun with

the other kids...

> instead he just looks tired on the play yard or quietly plays by

himself. I

> must say speech and academics are really starting to move.

> Any thoughts would be wonderful.

> Thanks again,

>

>

> P.S. His teacher is writing her thesis on and my son.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All have been reading your E-Mails and they are a great form of support

thankyou ALL !!!

Sounds like some of you are having the same problem re the social the

academic and language are great BUT the SOCIAL is still HUGE problem and at

13 it is starting to impact on my son big time .

Can anyone help me here that has been there done that ?

Thankyou all from Virginia in NZ

Re: Fever

>

> Just wondering if anyone's children had low grade fevers on anti viral?

My

> son seems to be making gains on Famvir. However we have had up and down

> moments. He had and ear infection that I thought was over. Then tonight

after

> a really good day he got a low grade fever. I would love to see Dr. G

move

> to the next step but, I have known idea what he will do with this

information.

> I asked Dr. G's office to send me his lab work. I am having some

trouble

> understanding some of it. There are several things out of normal

> range...which seem to be auto immune issues, growth hormone etc. So why

is Dr. G.

> waiting? Anyway right now I have the fever issues. I just am looking

for that

> one push towards more social behavior with his peers. His teacher is

> wonderful and tells me all the time that Autistic children do not have

such a

> connection to their parents. I just want him to have fun with the other

kids...

> instead he just looks tired on the play yard or quietly plays by himself.

I

> must say speech and academics are really starting to move.

> Any thoughts would be wonderful.

> Thanks again,

>

>

> P.S. His teacher is writing her thesis on and my son.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is actually three fold. The increase in temperature increases the

rate of biochemical reactions in your body which is especially

important in getting the immune system activated to defend it's host.

Secondly, the macrophages after phagocytizing a pathogen produces

Interleukin 1 which activates helper T-Cells. Interleukin 1 also

binds to the postoptic hypothalmus which is the body's

thermoregulatory center and increases the body's temperature setpoint

with ensuing fever. Thirdly, there are pathogens that are sensitive

to increased temperatures which helps eliminate them.

>

> Is fever a weapon that is able to kill or inactivate pathogens by

> merely increasing body tempertures by 1, 2, or 3 degrees, or is it a

> side effect of a " fight " being fought by the immune system?

>

> Thanks for any scientific knowledge or facts and/or any opinions.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Mickie

>

[Guest guest]

Try feeling the core (like around the belly) which is much more accurate than a "head check". My little guy has had fevers as high as 105.7 rectal when he was un dx with pneumonia (no symptoms, just fever) and sometimes, we'd feel his head or extremities and think, he's pretty cool, but if we'd feel his core area he'd be on fire. Babies (at least younger ones) loose lots of heat thru their heads so it may feel cooler than it is-which I realize your're saying is hard to check with a helmet on;-) Hopefully this helps;-) Mom of Owen 6 1/2 mos, brachy Renay;-) Renay Valiant<>< Call (765)471-9000 Independent IN Pampered Chef Director

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[Guest guest]

Laurie,

Go to your pharmacy and look for these cool new thermometors that

you actually stick onto your child's underarm area, and that you can

keep on for (I think) 5-6 hours. It's meant for babies so you can

monitor their temperature without having to actually take their

temperature orally/anally. I think they are made by Vicks. This

would be a great way to monitor his temp. while he is sleeping

without disturbing him too much!

>

> I know that the helmet is not supposed to be on a child with a

fever.

> But what if their fever spikes in the middle of the night and you

don't

> know about it?

>

> Maybe I'm paranoid. Last night would have been Cam's first

overnight in

> the helmet -- now that the fit is adjusted, we're cleared for 23

hours

> a day -- but I was afraid to do it. He has a cold and was running

a

> slight fever earlier in the day, and I was afraid it would come

back

> overnight and he'd be in his crib roasting in the helmet, ugh!

>

> How can you even tell if they have a fever anyway, if the helmet's

on?

> I don't even usually need to take an actual temp with my kids --

by now

> I can put a hand on their forehead or put my lips against their

heads

> and tell if they're running hot or not. But with a helmet that

won't

> work! And Cam feels hot when he has the helmet on anyway, because

he IS

> hot. With warm weather coming, I'm really thinking about heat

issues.

>

> If he doesn't have a fever during the day today, we'll keep him in

the

> helmet overnight ... wish us luck.

>

> Laurie

> Camden, 9 months, brachy, Hanger helmet (1 week in)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

I'm not sure how high, but I would leave it off at night. My dd's

fever always spikes overnight whenever she gets one.

-christine

sydney 19 mo starband grad

>

> Does anyone know how high a fever needs to be before we have to take

> the helmet off? My daughter has a low fever now, but I'm worried it

> will go up during the night. The paperwork we got with her Starband

> just says to take it off if she gets a high fever, but what is a " high

> fever " exactly? Does anyone know?

>

> Help!

>

> Thank you,

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

We were told to take the band off with any fever. My daughter wore a STARband. I hope your daughter is feeling better soon.

Angie

Fever

Does anyone know how high a fever needs to be before we have to take the helmet off? My daughter has a low fever now, but I'm worried it will go up during the night. The paperwork we got with her Starband just says to take it off if she gets a high fever, but what is a "high fever" exactly? Does anyone know?Help!Thank you,Amy

[Guest guest]

The information that I was given said to leave off the Starband if the fever was 100 or higher. Tyler has been sick since Thursday and we had to leave it off for more days that I would've liked. But when when put the helmet back on his temp would go up too. Here's to hoping for speedy recoveries!

JackieMom to Tyler, Starlight Band 07/19/2007

Re: Fever

Hi Amy,I'm not sure how high, but I would leave it off at night. My dd'sfever always spikes overnight whenever she gets one.-christinesydney 19 mo starband grad>> Does anyone know how high a fever needs to be before we have to take > the helmet off? My daughter has a low fever now, but I'm worried it > will go up during the night. The paperwork we got with her Starband > just says to take it off if she gets a high fever, but what is a "high > fever" exactly? Does anyone know?> > Help!> > Thank you,> > Amy>

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[Guest guest]

I was told anything over a 100 was considered a high fever. If you're worried during the night, (we had one fever and this is what I did), I set my alarm for every 2 hours the first night to take my son's temp to make sure it wasn't too high. usually the first night is the worst. - Mother to , Starbanded 1/11/07-5/23/07Amy <acbredeson@...> wrote: Does anyone know how high a fever needs to be before we have to take the helmet off? My daughter has a low

fever now, but I'm worried it will go up during the night. The paperwork we got with her Starband just says to take it off if she gets a high fever, but what is a "high fever" exactly? Does anyone know?Help!Thank you,Amy "In the depths of winter, I finally found there was in me an invincible

summer."

[Guest guest]

I think doc said 102 not sure what you mean by low grade, a fever isnt even actually a fever until 100.3

On 8/20/07, Amy <acbredeson@...> wrote:

Does anyone know how high a fever needs to be before we have to take the helmet off? My daughter has a low fever now, but I'm worried it will go up during the night. The paperwork we got with her Starband just says to take it off if she gets a high fever, but what is a " high fever " exactly? Does anyone know?Help!Thank you,Amy -- -honoring;-11

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[Guest guest]

- I'm curious about your experience with the red spot on

your daughter's head. My son got fitted for his StarBand 10 days

ago. We went back on the 4th day for an adjustment because it was

rubbing his forehead bad. It was a little better for a few days, but

is now back to very red and irritated. We've taken it off and have

another appointment the day after tomorrow to get it adjusted again.

When you say " due for a refit " do you just mean an adjustment? Has

it gotten better now? I just hate that we have to keep taking it off

because his forehead keeps getting irritated. It is fitting really

well except for his forehead, and we are already seeing some changes

in his head shape. Any input/advice about the redness?

Mom to Evan

StarBand 8/10/07

>

> My daughter was in her third week of wearing her Starband when she

got

> a stomach virus with projectile vomiting. They also told me to

take it

> off until she's better. She was due for a refit because of a 50-

cent

> piece sized red spot on her forehead that wasn't getting better, so

she

> ended up out of it for five days. I was upset, but she's already

back

> in it 23/1 and acting like she didn't miss a day.

>

> Think it's better safe than sorry. If your child is profusely

sweating

> with a fever, you're better off leaving it off IMO.

>

>

> mother to Savannah

> started Starband 7/26/07

>

[Guest guest]

I've heard remove it with a fever. I don't know how high, but to be

cautious I would take it off. Also with my daughter her temp always

goes up later in the day when she is sick, and you don't want it to do

that with the band on.

-christine

>

> Should the DOC band be removed with a temperature of 101.4?

>

> Staci Hyde

>

[Guest guest]

I would take it off until temp is normal

From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of stacihyde

Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007

9:24 AM

Plagiocephaly

Subject: Fever

Should the DOC band be removed with a temperature of

101.4?

Staci Hyde

[Guest guest]

thank you...i think i will take it off and call CT in the a.m.

-----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ]On Behalf Of christineashokSent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:39 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: Re: Fever

I've heard remove it with a fever. I don't know how high, but to becautious I would take it off. Also with my daughter her temp alwaysgoes up later in the day when she is sick, and you don't want it to dothat with the band on.-christine>> Should the DOC band be removed with a temperature of 101.4? > > Staci Hyde>

[Guest guest]

My daughter wore a STARband but we were advised to leave her band off with any fever.

Angie

Fever

Should the DOC band be removed with a temperature of 101.4? Staci Hyde

[Guest guest]

Hey our orthotist told us that if Damian spiked a fever that is over 99.5 to take of the helmet so you can let the heat escape. I don't know what kind he has though- I don't think it's a star band though. I have seen photos of that it looks like a band around their head right. Damian's looks like a hocky helmet with the top cut out- does anyone know what that's called? LISA , Somerville, MAAngie P <apope04@...> wrote: My daughter wore a STARband but we were advised to leave her band off with any

fever. Angie Fever Should the DOC band be removed with a temperature of 101.4? Staci Hyde

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[Guest guest]

> Do I just need to give her more time with the fever (tomorrow will be

> her 5th day out of school but the first 2 were because of throwing

> up)? The achiness has gone away and there seem to be no other

> problems (ears, throat, etc). I haven't taken her to a dr since I

> see nothing that they're going to tell me that's useful.

I would continue the vitamin C. Watch for yeast overgrowth. Maybe

give some Virastop enzyme.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Have you considered a DAN doctor, naturopath/homeopath doctor? Someone who

wants to get to the root of the cause, not just dx and treat symptoms?

Also, have you considered digestive enzymes and/or probiotics? Definitely

probiotics - that is a TON of antibiotics which will kill off the good bacteria

in the gut, as well as the bad. The book Enzymes for Digestive Health and

Nutritional Wealth by DeFelice is straight forward and filled with

information on nutrition and enzymes. Also, www.enzymestuff.com and

www.danasview.net. She has another book - I think it's called " Enzymes... Go

With Your Gut " or something like that. I haven't read that one.

Dana C.

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From: " Jeannine " <JM8031@...>

Can anyone shed some light on this for me ?

I can not find a doctor who will take this seriously and help us figure out

what is wrong.

My son has constant fevers - Friday night it went to 105.3 and we went to

the ER - they ran every test imaginable and came up with nothing.

Sent us home with Tylenol

This is not the first time we've been to the ER with a high fever

He also is sick every single month - literally for the past 12 months he has

been sick and they have given him an antibiotic each time.

Croup, strep throat and sinus infections - he's been on 21 antibiotics total

now and he's is only 3 years old !!

Every single month I take him to the pediatrician 3 -4 times for fever and

cold symptoms and he either has strep, croup or sinus infection.

This weekend in the ER is was horrible, the IV was brutal and so traumatic -

he cried for 7 hours. I can't take this anymore - the doctors don't have

answers and we've seen 4 immunologists and the refuse to do the food

intolerance test because the regular food allergy test and skin test come

back normal but I asked for the intolerance test which shows delayed results

and they said it's a waste of my time - won't show anything - how do they

know that ?

He has a fever over 100 every single day - every single month - and they

keep telling me to just give Tylenol.

UGH

Can anyone help ???

Thanks

[Guest guest]

I have also keep a low grade fever usually at or about 99.4 for over a month. My

temp. used to run really low.

[Guest guest]

is so correct. It is a must to avoid medications if trying to get over

'fevers' naturally. The complications of fevers and 'The Flu', come from the

heroic efforts to reduce fevers and suppress coughs and runny noses. I

remember the first death in the U.S. of a Swine Flu victim and his mother

saying, " last night we phoned the doctor because he had a fever and he

prescribed Tylenol to reduce it. " It didn't take long but this kid died

probably because they never gave him a chance by stopping the body's first-line

of defense, The Fever. Bed rest, plenty of fluids, and complications become

the rarity instead of the norm. We've digressed from Cancer treatments but

this has been an attempt to show the body does try to survive but we too often

hinder it.

Joe C.

From: VGammill

Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:02 AM

Subject: [ ] Fever

At 08:36 PM 5/9/2010, Joe wrote:

> " ...My children and others in our family routinely ran fevers

>attaining anywhere from 103 - 105 with no ill effects other than

>feeling lousy... "

It is often beneficial to buttress fevers with added heat. Problems

are rare as long as hydration and electrolytes are attended to and

" medicines " are avoided.

[Guest guest]

How high is the safest we can let the fever go?  I am trying to get Coley's

Toxins here in Canada and the main objective is to fever.  They say to stop the

fever if it gets too high. I think high is 104 degrees?  But you guys mentioned

even 105?  I am not going to be monitored by a Dr. so really need to know the

safe limits.  I would not trust a Dr. anyways as they'll bring the fever down

too quickly. 

Louise

[Guest guest]

I really do not know how high is too high. But my oldest had menanghitis sp? And

his fever was 105 years ago. Last spring? My youngest got swine flu and his

fever was 104. something

Cheri

>

> How high is the safest we can let the fever go?  I am trying to get Coley's

Toxins here in Canada and the main objective is to fever.  They say to stop the

fever if it gets too high. I think high is 104 degrees?  But you guys mentioned

even 105?  I am not going to be monitored by a Dr. so really need to know the

safe limits.  I would not trust a Dr. anyways as they'll bring the fever down

too quickly. 

> Louise

>

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

How high a fever is safe depends on how old a person you are talking

about. A fever of 105 in a child is serious, and wiping them down with

tepid water is a good idea. A fever of 105 in an adult, means that you

dump the person into a bath of ice water, quick. While one is serious,

the other can be deadly.

It is not necessary to use drugs to control how high a fever gets much

of the time, old fashion things like cool water can do wonders and make

the patient feel much better.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

cheri601183 wrote:

> I really do not know how high is too high. But my oldest had menanghitis sp?

And his fever was 105 years ago. Last spring? My youngest got swine flu and his

fever was 104..... Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

I would not worry about 105F if the patient is hydrated, electrolytes

are replenished, there is no evidence of delirium, and you trust the

calibration of your thermometer.

At 10:22 AM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

>

>How high is the safest we can let the fever go? I am trying to get

>Coley's Toxins here in Canada and the main objective is to

>fever. They say to stop the fever if it gets too high. I think high

>is 104 degrees? But you guys mentioned even 105? I am not going to

>be monitored by a Dr. so really need to know the safe limits. I

>would not trust a Dr. anyways as they'll bring the fever down too quickly.

>Louise