Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 I thought this was a nice prayer and wanted to share it with others!! Carolyn Payne mom of Amber 5mo. DS Nice > > > > > >> BEAUTIFUL PRAYER > >> > >> I asked God to take away my habit. > >> God said, No. > >> It is not for me to take away, > >> but for you to give it up. > >> > >> I asked God to make my handicapped child whole. > >> God said, No. > >> His spirit is whole, his body is only temporary > >> > >> I asked God to grant me patience. > >> God said, No. > >> Patience is a byproduct of tribulations; > >> it isn't granted, it is learned. > >> > >> I asked God to give me happiness. > >> God said, No. > >> I give you blessings; Happiness is up to you. > >> > >> I asked God to spare me pain. > >> God said, No. > >> Suffering draws you apart from worldly cares > >> and brings you closer to me. > >> > >> I asked God to make my spirit grow. > >> God said, No. > >> You must grow on your own! > >> but I will prune you to make you fruitful. > >> > >> I asked God for all things that I might enjoy life. > >> God said, No. > >> I will give you life, so that you may enjoy all things. > >> > >> I ask God to help me LOVE others, as much as He loves me. > >> God said...Ahhhh, finally you have the idea. > >> If you love God, send this to ten people and > >> back to the person that sent it. > >> THIS DAY IS YOURS DON'T THROW IT AWAY > >> May God Bless You, > >> > >> " To the world you might be one person, but to one person you just > >> might be > >> the world. " > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 I read a book by Annette Street "Nursing Replay" in which she suggests that where everything appears nice there is actually a huge amount of underlying conflict. I'm quite sure that where we as HV's want to be nice it's to do with avoiding conflict with families and each other. I agree with your sentiments about the word entirely Ann Nice I've been thinking (always a dangerous thing to do) about the 'ownership' debate that has been taking place. I've got another word which infuriates me - 'nice'. No not NICE (however, I could say that it is an inappropriate title for looking at evidence base). No I get annoyed when trying to change practice and someone says'but it's nice to be able to do that'If when it is suggested that practice could be changed in school nursing and someone responds like that I am all the more determined that the practice needs to change and leads me to challenge back with ' it might be nice but how effective is it? 'I think I am noticing all the more as I approaching my departure into new pastures and I am trying to tie up those loose ends and I suppose demonstrate that I have achieved something.Does anyone else notice the use of 'nice' ?Nicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 I remember at school being emphatically told by an English teacher that there is always an alternative word to use to 'nice' and that any time we used it we would loose marks. Nice I've been thinking (always a dangerous thing to do) about the 'ownership' debate that has been taking place. I've got another word which infuriates me - 'nice'. No not NICE (however, I could say that it is an inappropriate title for looking at evidence base). No I get annoyed when trying to change practice and someone says'but it's nice to be able to do that'If when it is suggested that practice could be changed in school nursing and someone responds like that I am all the more determined that the practice needs to change and leads me to challenge back with ' it might be nice but how effective is it? 'I think I am noticing all the more as I approaching my departure into new pastures and I am trying to tie up those loose ends and I suppose demonstrate that I have achieved something.Does anyone else notice the use of 'nice' ?Nicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Yes..I had a teacher like that too, who said the same about the word "get". We should of couse overlook his personal proclivity for beating young men and boys with a cane and it galls me no end that ANY of my neurones are still involved in retaining any memory of such an evanescently sad git (or should that be 'get'?) -----Original Message-----From: Bidmead [mailto:christine@...]Sent: 20 February 2003 22:56 Subject: Re: Nice I remember at school being emphatically told by an English teacher that there is always an alternative word to use to 'nice' and that any time we used it we would loose marks. Nice I've been thinking (always a dangerous thing to do) about the 'ownership' debate that has been taking place. I've got another word which infuriates me - 'nice'. No not NICE (however, I could say that it is an inappropriate title for looking at evidence base). No I get annoyed when trying to change practice and someone says'but it's nice to be able to do that'If when it is suggested that practice could be changed in school nursing and someone responds like that I am all the more determined that the practice needs to change and leads me to challenge back with ' it might be nice but how effective is it? 'I think I am noticing all the more as I approaching my departure into new pastures and I am trying to tie up those loose ends and I suppose demonstrate that I have achieved something.Does anyone else notice the use of 'nice' ?Nicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Ann - Life is fraught with underlying tensions - the ability to 'normalise' these is linked to good mental health. Maybe the strong projection of being 'nice' is reassurance that the client's experience is within normal boundaries and in that way the HV 'contains' their fears for them. Nice I've been thinking (always a dangerous thing to do) about the 'ownership' debate that has been taking place. I've got another word which infuriates me - 'nice'. No not NICE (however, I could say that it is an inappropriate title for looking at evidence base). No I get annoyed when trying to change practice and someone says'but it's nice to be able to do that'If when it is suggested that practice could be changed in school nursing and someone responds like that I am all the more determined that the practice needs to change and leads me to challenge back with ' it might be nice but how effective is it? 'I think I am noticing all the more as I approaching my departure into new pastures and I am trying to tie up those loose ends and I suppose demonstrate that I have achieved something.Does anyone else notice the use of 'nice' ?Nicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 Dear , this is not about NICE! I have problems with contacting SENATE directly, I wish I knew why, I seem only to be able to do it by replying to all. Because of this difficulty, I have resorted to sending an attachment about a lecture (and video footage) on the impact of violence on infants. Do you have any nifty way of making it have direct connection to SENATE. I would be very grateful for advice on this problem (the email one) from someone on SENATE. with best wishes and thanks, lind Bennet Nice I've been thinking (always a dangerous thing to do) about the 'ownership' debate that has been taking place. I've got another word which infuriates me - 'nice'. No not NICE (however, I could say that it is an inappropriate title for looking at evidence base). No I get annoyed when trying to change practice and someone says'but it's nice to be able to do that'If when it is suggested that practice could be changed in school nursing and someone responds like that I am all the more determined that the practice needs to change and leads me to challenge back with ' it might be nice but how effective is it? 'I think I am noticing all the more as I approaching my departure into new pastures and I am trying to tie up those loose ends and I suppose demonstrate that I have achieved something.Does anyone else notice the use of 'nice' ?Nicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 Thanks . Lowenhoff is representing the CPHVA on the Depression in Children Guideline Advisory Group which is underway. We will be preparing submissions in relation to each stage in the process and would welcome details of anyone with expertise in this field who would like to comment. The comments must be submitted by a professional body or other relevant organisation. We will also be registering for the other two guidelines so again would welcome details of anyone who would like to support the process with us. Also names of experts in those fields who you feel might be prepared to be put forward for the Advisory groups. Best wishes Cheryll Professional Officer, CPHVA -----Original Message----- From Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Record keeping and data collection for behaviour / conduct disorder I wonder what kind of consideration is being given to current methods of record keeping and tools for automated data collection in Child Health, GP, hospital and local government computer systems. Perhaps the CPHVA Health Informatics Group (SIG) could help on this. There is a meeting on Sat. 7th June (unfortunately I can't go this time). Marjorie Talbot Health Visitor St Clements Surgery 39 Temple Street Oxford. OX4 1JS 01865 793665 CPHVA representative, Child Health Informatics Consortium Re: NICE Thanks . Lowenhoff is representing the CPHVA on the Depression in Children Guideline Advisory Group which is underway. We will be preparing submissions in relation to each stage in the process and would welcome details of anyone with expertise in this field who would like to comment. The comments must be submitted by a professional body or other relevant organisation. We will also be registering for the other two guidelines so again would welcome details of anyone who would like to support the process with us. Also names of experts in those fields who you feel might be prepared to be put forward for the Advisory groups. Best wishes Cheryll Professional Officer, CPHVA -----Original Message----- From Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 I am actually representing the CPHVA on the Depression in Children guidelines development group ( by virtue of the fact that, at present, I am attached to a Child and Family Consultation Service and my remit is to look at the interface between primary and secondary care and promote collaborative working) . It is an interesting and fascinating experience and I would encourage anybody out there to seize the opportunity if they are invited to sit on one of the other groups mentioned by in her email. With regard to depression in children, if anybody has any comments, queries or concerns that they would like me to feed back to the group, I would love to hear from them Lowenhoff NICE The NICE work programme has been published until May 2005. Parent training programmes for the treatment and prevention of conduct disorder are to be appraised in November 2004. Evidence from consultees will be needed early in 2004, so the evaluation report can be completed by about August for submission to the committee. I see there are also to be clinical guidelines for depression in children (March 2005) and post-natal care (summer 2006). Anyone who wants can register for free email updates from http://www.nice.org.uk/ best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 This sounds an interesting piece of work. As a practitioner in the field my comments would be where is the interface between secondary and primary care in mental health? My experience leads me to believe that mental health services are becoming so special that contact is difficult. We receive accident and emergency slips of young people having taken overdoses, drunk too much alcohol or a miscarriage. Gps receive info., there are no services to refer to, as psychiatric services are geared to those with major mental health problems. Last week I had a phone call from a hosp. cas. sister stating that a young girl had attended frequently with minor wounds demanding excessive attention and dressings, (she was being schooled at home no contact with sch. nurse) She rightly suspected other concerns;possibly depression, but did not know who could help. CPN services now seem to have disappeared from attachment to primary care, and referals to CAMHS are so complicated with long waiting lists. Primary care is managing many people with mental health issues and children and young people just get lost in a system unless a crisis ensues. This is not a good way to improve the mental health of children and young people for the future. (touched a nerve this week!). Jeanette > I am actually representing the CPHVA on the Depression in Children >guidelines development group ( by virtue of the fact that, at present, I >am attached to a Child and Family Consultation Service and my remit is >to look at the interface between primary and secondary care and promote >collaborative working) . It is an interesting and fascinating experience >and I would encourage anybody out there to seize the opportunity if they >are invited to sit on one of the other groups mentioned by in her >email. >With regard to depression in children, if anybody has any comments, >queries or concerns that they would like me to feed back to the group, I >would love to hear from them > Lowenhoff > > NICE > >The NICE work programme has been published until May 2005. > >Parent training programmes for the treatment and prevention of conduct >disorder are to be appraised in November 2004. Evidence from consultees >will be needed early in 2004, so the evaluation report can be completed >by about August for submission to the committee. > >I see there are also to be clinical guidelines for depression in >children (March 2005) and post-natal care (summer 2006). > >Anyone who wants can register for free email updates from ><a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://www.nice.org.uk/'>http:\ //www.nice.org.uk/</a> > >best wishes > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 I agree, Jeanette, my experience in Cambridge is similar. There is a need for some sort of seamlessness between tiers 2 and 3 of mental health services and some acceptance by CAMHS that we in primary care are in fact tiers 1 and 2. Also some funding to do some appropriate training and practice development with our colleagues in CAMHS. Ann NICE> >The NICE work programme has been published until May 2005. >>Parent training programmes for the treatment and prevention of conduct>disorder are to be appraised in November 2004. Evidence from consultees>will be needed early in 2004, so the evaluation report can be completed>by about August for submission to the committee. > >I see there are also to be clinical guidelines for depression in>children (March 2005) and post-natal care (summer 2006). > >Anyone who wants can register for free email updates from><a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://www.nice.org.uk/'>http://www.nice.org.uk/</a>> >best wishes> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Dear To prevent depression in children , and other mental health problems, schools in Dudley and Bristol are working with on a programme of educational classes in Primary Schools leading to "emotional literacy" . is much better at explaining what is going on than I am. He is at : peterfcox@... I hope this idea of developing emotional literacy in primary schools can become part of the guidelines. Best wishes, Malcolm RE: NICE I am actually representing the CPHVA on the Depression in Children guidelines development group ( by virtue of the fact that, at present, I am attached to a Child and Family Consultation Service and my remit is to look at the interface between primary and secondary care and promote collaborative working) . It is an interesting and fascinating experience and I would encourage anybody out there to seize the opportunity if they are invited to sit on one of the other groups mentioned by in her email. With regard to depression in children, if anybody has any comments, queries or concerns that they would like me to feed back to the group, I would love to hear from them Lowenhoff -----Original Message-----From: Cowley [mailto:sarah@...] Sent: 02 June 2003 21:26 Subject: NICE The NICE work programme has been published until May 2005. Parent training programmes for the treatment and prevention of conduct disorder are to be appraised in November 2004. Evidence from consultees will be needed early in 2004, so the evaluation report can be completed by about August for submission to the committee. I see there are also to be clinical guidelines for depression in children (March 2005) and post-natal care (summer 2006). Anyone who wants can register for free email updates from http://www.nice.org.uk/ best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Dear and Malcolm, The national charity ANTIDOTE ( Orbach and Co.) are also working on this area of improving emotional literacy, across the public services. I went to a marvelous drama session with Antidote which was funded by the Health Development Agency in 2001, but have not had more recent contact. Their website http://www.antidote.org.uk/ currently has a schools discussion on Where's The Joy In Teaching Behaviour? Best wishes, Woody. On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:44:16 +0100 " M.Rigler " <M.Rigler@...> wrote: > > Dear > > To prevent depression in children , and other mental health problems, schools in Dudley and Bristol are working with on a programme of educational classes in Primary Schools leading to " emotional literacy " . is much better at explaining what is going on than I am. He is at : > peterfcox@... > I hope this idea of developing emotional literacy in primary schools can become part of the guidelines. > Best wishes, > Malcolm > > > > NICE > > > > The NICE work programme has been published until May 2005. > > Parent training programmes for the treatment and prevention of conduct disorder are to be appraised in November 2004. Evidence from consultees will be needed early in 2004, so the evaluation report can be completed by about August for submission to the committee. > > > > I see there are also to be clinical guidelines for depression in children (March 2005) and post-natal care (summer 2006). > > > > Anyone who wants can register for free email updates from http://www.nice.org.uk/ > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Brilliant site I have passed this link onto several people already, Thanks Woody -----Original Message-----From: a.w.caan@... [mailto:a.w.caan@...]Sent: 12 June 2003 19:12 Subject: Re: NICEDear and Malcolm,The national charity ANTIDOTE ( Orbach and Co.) are also working on this area of improving emotional literacy, across the public services. I went to a marvelous drama session with Antidote which was funded by the Health Development Agency in 2001, but have not had more recent contact. Their website http://www.antidote.org.uk/ currently has a schools discussion on Where's The Joy In Teaching Behaviour?Best wishes,Woody.On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:44:16 +0100 "M.Rigler" <M.Rigler@...> wrote:> > Dear > > To prevent depression in children , and other mental health problems, schools in Dudley and Bristol are working with on a programme of educational classes in Primary Schools leading to "emotional literacy" . is much better at explaining what is going on than I am. He is at :> peterfcox@...> I hope this idea of developing emotional literacy in primary schools can become part of the guidelines.> Best wishes,> Malcolm > > > > NICE> > > > The NICE work programme has been published until May 2005. > > Parent training programmes for the treatment and prevention of conduct disorder are to be appraised in November 2004. Evidence from consultees will be needed early in 2004, so the evaluation report can be completed by about August for submission to the committee. > > > > I see there are also to be clinical guidelines for depression in children (March 2005) and post-natal care (summer 2006). > > > > Anyone who wants can register for free email updates from http://www.nice.org.uk/> > > > best wishes> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Thanks Woody , Very interesting. I had no idea this was going on. Best wishes, Malcolm NICE > > > > > > > > The NICE work programme has been published until May 2005. > > > > Parent training programmes for the treatment and prevention of conduct disorder are to be appraised in November 2004. Evidence from consultees will be needed early in 2004, so the evaluation report can be completed by about August for submission to the committee. > > > > > > > > I see there are also to be clinical guidelines for depression in children (March 2005) and post-natal care (summer 2006). > > > > > > > > Anyone who wants can register for free email updates from http://www.nice.org.uk/ > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 In B & NES as part of the Childrens Fund we have selected the 'Friends' programme to try and improve emotional literacy in our identified highest need areas. Ruth NICE > > > > > > > > > > > > The NICE work programme has been published until May 2005. > > > > > > Parent training programmes for the treatment and prevention of conduct > disorder are to be appraised in November 2004. Evidence from consultees > will be needed early in 2004, so the evaluation report can be completed by > about August for submission to the committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > I see there are also to be clinical guidelines for depression in > children (March 2005) and post-natal care (summer 2006). > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone who wants can register for free email updates from > http://www.nice.org.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Great update Dan! Congratulations!  Elinor R. Florida Dr. P Post-Op (4/20/07) 5' 1 " 53 min./7' bypass Surgery/Now/Goal 278/160/120-125 Reynolds-Family-Elinor.blogspot.com Live, love and LAUGH!!!! ________________________________ From: danielqavet1 <daniel01qa@...> Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 11:17:38 AM Subject: Nice Dear Fellow MGB persons- We are truly on the road to success thanks to CLOS and the wonderful staff. It has not been easy and at times I have probably been too obsessive in my haste to get the pounds off. The greatest benefit has been the elimination of the scourge of diabetes from my morbidity factors. I was taking oral med's plus injecting over 240 units of a combination of insulin throughout the day and I was insulin resistant and so not much was working. Now I take no more medication and my blood sugars are normal everyday even right after eating. Unfortunately diabetes causes so much damage that I am still recovering from the damage done to my nerves and so on. I still have some neuropathic damage that troubles me but at least I am on the road to recovery and going in the right direction after years of going in the wrong direction. I am also completely off of high cholesterol medication and am now down to half a dose of high blood pressure medication. I was taking the high blood pressure medication prior to becoming overweight so we will see how this goes but I am glad to be at a very low dose for this last health challenge that I am dealing with. My sleep apnea has disappeared and my joint problems have also come to an end. My waist size was 54 inches and it is now 38 inches and shrinking. I used to not be able to stand for any length of time and spent most of my time sitting. Now I enjoy standing and walking. My feet used to hurt so bad and I was wearing padded insoles and double wide shoes. Now my show size is normal width and I have lost almost 1/2 size in the length of the shoes I wear. I used to sleep outside the covers on the coldest nights but now I curl up and my wife loves that. I used to snore so badly that my wife slept in a separate room but now she says that I make no sounds at all when I sleep. I couldn't walk up but a few steps without getting winded and trying to walk more than a block would cause me to have to stop and rest. I was even exercising at the local YMCA trying to lose weight and stay in shape but nothing was working. Now I freely walk, climb stairs and so on with my only challenge being building more muscle mass. My personal physician has been so impressed with my tremendous improvement in my health that he has referred three of his patients to CLOS. My personal physician's own mother-in-law had gastric bypass surgery almost two years ago using another procedure and she has had lots of problems. My doctor says that I have had more success and less problems than his mother-in-law and that he would now recommend the MGB over any other surgical procedure for weight loss. This road has been quite a journey and I am not finished yet but it is nice to know that 150 pounds is off my skeleton. I have been beset by bouts of vomiting, gastro-intestinal pain, powerful and smelly gas, burping and vomiting bile, pooping my pants, mood swings, bouts of starvation, taste changes, and so on. To go down this road one has to be single-minded and convinced that it has to be accomplished. I sometimes get too obsessed and that has made it hard on my family as well as I. At 150 pounds lost I can say that it has all been worth it. The discomfort one experiences is truly nothing in exchange for regaining one's health. I sometimes read the e-mails that are sent to you and think that these people are missing the main point. Yes, there is discomfort and other inconveniences but we are changing our lives and changing our lives for the better. All changes have a price and the price of the surgery and the price of a little discomfort are far outweighed by the amazing health benefits we experience. Dr Rutledge said that we are plumbed for success and wiser words have never been spoken. Thank you Dr Rutldege and many thanks to your wonderful staff. I hope to one day stop in and thank you in person. When I first met you I was wearing men's 4X size clothing and now I am wearing men's size large clothing. I am truly ashamed to have been so large but obesity is a disease and I was in a downward spiral. I was truly on the road to an early death. Now I am looking forwards and life is so good again. This is a personal struggle. We become overweight due to bad choices and then we struggle with obesity in our private shame and personal discomfort. We feel alone in the depths of our misery and feel so frustrated and helpless. Then we are offered hope in a surgical alternative. We then begin a personal struggle to change our lives and to adapt to this new life of a surgically altered stomach and intestine. Each person is a little different in their struggle and each of us handle it differently. Dr Rutledge, you and your staff are always there for each of us and even though we may not ever contact you just knowing that you are willing to help provides a comfort that it truly appreciated. I hope you are all doing well and my best wishes to you for a pleasant weekend. My most heartfelt thanks to you. -Dan s Grants Pass, Oregon June 19th 344 pounds prior to surgery 190 pounds this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 This is a terrible thing to happen a single person, and much less to a whole nation. Do you really think you can stem the tide by just writing emails? Here I think they would need an avalanche of privately signed letters and even some demonstrations by picketing their offices. Man does not live by bread alone, nor on Inteferon. Thank you for your insights about this repugnant conception. I wish a pox upon them all, this rather stubborn group. Hands & hearts, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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