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Arnold,

Thanks for the compliment. My story may not be all that unique

anymore. But, what does surprise me is that even doctors do not always

try to "connect the dots" when it comes to treating the problem.

And, I believe we patients deserve some of the blame.

The doctor say, "How are you doing? Are your seizures under control?

Is the medicince working for you?" Well, if you are not having any

seizures your answer is problably going to be yes. But, the problem

is that there may be other things going on which are not good, but have

nothing to do with seizures. Nevertheless, since the doctor didn't

ask all the right questions, you are not going to respond with all the

right answers. Consequently, you end up adversely affecting the quality

of your own life. The doctor who is supposed to be helping you is

actually assisting you in wasting away your own life.

Here are some questions I think doctors should ask their patients in

addition to questions about seizures: Do you you feel less alert?

Do you have a hard time remembering information? Do you have difficulty

taking notes? Is your reaction time slowing down? Perhaps the

events in my life would have turned out very different had I brought those

matters to the attention of my doctors. Neither my doctors, my parents

nor myself were concerned with my overall quality of life. Whenever

I was at the doctor we simply focused on bringing gran mal seizures under

control. Big mistake!

I think everyone who has access to the Internet should use the resources

available to them to gather as much information about their particular

health situation as they possibly can. Take a look at the "big picture."

Do what I did. Go to websites like

www.andrewsreiter.org and

ask questions of the doctor via e-mail. What have you got to lose?

There are also other websites listed in the Bookmarks section of this group

which could not doubt prove helpful. Make use of all these resouces.

What's at stake here is nothing less than the quality of your life.

Don't let anyone - not even a doctor - waste away your life.

Lamar

Arnold Gore wrote:

Hi

Lamar and list,Lamar's odyssey

of 34 years came to a pleasing drug free conclusion. It really goes to

a core proncipal of finding out what else this "epilepsy-symptom" is a

manifestation of. The interconnections of the entire body is something

that needs more focus. Thanks for relating the story, it just adds more

comfrmation to what we are trying to do on this list. I only hope that

more of you out there will eventualy realize the benefits that are somewhere

out there waiting to be found and applied.

arnold

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Dacia! I believe everything happens for a reason! God bless you!

Follow your heart and dreams! There is light at the end of the tunnel

love,

linda Marie

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good inspiring storyThere was an elderly person planting some acrons. A man passing by asked, old man ' look at your age . Do you think you will live long enough to see these oak trees. The man replied' all the trees that have given me shades and fruits - did i plant them all of them? . There are people coming behind me too.We are the custodians of the next generation.A nation behaves responsibly when it treats the assets of the nation in trust for the next generationmukul chaudhri <aryan3@...> wrote: --It's a very inspiring story on Forgiveness.Do read it. Mukul Chaudhri "Writing in Sand" There is a story of two friends who were walking through a desert. At a certain point of the journey they had an argument, and one friend slapped the other one right across the face. The one who got slapped was very hurt, but without saying anything, wrote in the sand: "Today my closest friend slapped me?." The two friends kept on walking until they found an oasis, where they decided to go into the water. The one, who had been slapped, got stuck in the mire and started drowning, but his friend saved him. After the friend recovered from near drowning, he carved out on a stone: " Today my closest friend Saved My Life." The friend who had slapped and saved his best friend asked him, "After I hurt you, you wrote in the sand and now, you write on a stone, why?" The other friend replied: "When someone hurts us, we should write it down in sand where winds of forgiveness can erase it away. But, when someone does something good for us, we must engrave it in stone where no wind can ever erase it." This is Rex Barker, CS (Carving on Stone) reminding you not to hold on to grudges and to remember those who have helped you. Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. !-- Virus-Free Mail Using AntiVirus for IQ Mail & QuickHeal Engine --!

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I think the passer by person was a fool or negative thinker.

the idea is to be positive should we identify negative so that we must be beware of them.

sudhir

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There was an elderly person planting some acrons. A man passing by asked, old man ' look at your age . Do you think you will live long enough to see these oak trees. The man replied' all the trees that have given me shades and fruits - did i plant them all of them? . There are people coming behind me too.

We are the custodians of the next generation.

A nation behaves responsibly when it treats the assets of the nation in trust for the next generationmukul chaudhri <aryan3@...> wrote:

--It's a very inspiring story on Forgiveness.Do read it.

Mukul Chaudhri

"Writing in Sand" There is a story of two friends who were walking through a desert. At a certain point of the journey they had an argument, and one friend slapped the other one right across the face. The one who got slapped was very hurt, but without saying anything, wrote in the sand: "Today my closest friend slapped me?." The two friends kept on walking until they found an oasis, where they decided to go into the water. The one, who had been slapped, got stuck in the mire and started drowning, but his friend saved him. After the friend recovered from near drowning, he carved out on a stone: " Today my closest friend Saved My Life." The friend who had slapped and saved his best friend asked him, "After I hurt you, you wrote in the sand and now, you write on a stone, why?" The other friend replied: "When someone hurts us, we should write it down in sand where winds of forgiveness can erase it away. But, when someone does something good for us, we must engrave it in stone where no wind can ever erase it." This is Rex Barker, CS (Carving on Stone) reminding you not to hold on to grudges and to remember those who have helped you.

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This is the first time I have heard of someone going through this! I

was diagnosed in Dec of 2004 with papillary thyroid cancer. I have

done natural alternative and asked a few times if the biopsy was a sure

thing. Well, apparantly it is not 100 percent. I am kind of at a loss

for words. How did they make such a huge mistake? Was there any kind

of explanation given to you? I have not had surgery.

Thanks, Kym

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I can tell you what happened for me. The first slides of the fluid

taken from my nodual were reviewed by 3 doctors and called it

" suspicious for.... " then it was sent to the Mayo clinic where it was

confirmed " positive for papillary carcinoma. " . My take on it is that

it could have been all along and that what I did changed it. As I

mentioned the orginal size was 1.6 and " actual " size at surgery was

barely 1cm. I know ultrasounds can be off but I'll go with my juicing

that shrunk it~! :)

I am still waiting for a 3rd set of eyes to review the original slides

to see if they too, would have confirmed the cancer.

No matter what, I went against all odds with not having a TT and

surgeons made me feel like I was SOO wrong for doing that. Well here I

am with still a functioning thyroid and NO CANCER. Thank God.

If you ask me what I did, the answer is " what didn't I do " .

Everything I could. Including prayer, Reiki, dry skin brushing,

juicing, flax oil, etc...

Good luck, I believe I waited and postponed the surgery because I knew

there was something I could do. I believe this 100%.

" praterkym " wrote:

> This is the first time I have heard of someone going through this! I

> was diagnosed in Dec of 2004 with papillary thyroid cancer. I have

> done natural alternative and asked a few times if the biopsy was a sure

> thing. Well, apparantly it is not 100 percent. I am kind of at a loss

> for words. How did they make such a huge mistake? Was there any kind

> of explanation given to you? I have not had surgery.

>

> Thanks, Kym

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Malissa, I commend you for your persistence for the right option and thank

God for the outcome of your surgery - NO CANCER!! I had a papillary thyroid

cancer diagnosis in Sept 2003. I chose to seek alternative options before

surgery. I have not had surgery and no chemo, no radiation, no radioactive

iodine

treatments. Addie

In a message dated 03/02/2007 12:29:30 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

malissa_ramirez@... writes:

I can tell you what happened for me. The first slides of the fluid

taken from my nodual were reviewed by 3 doctors and called it

" suspicious for.... " then it was sent to the Mayo clinic where it was

confirmed " positive for papillary carcinoma. " . My take on it is that

it could have been all along and that what I did changed it. As I

mentioned the orginal size was 1.6 and " actual " size at surgery was

barely 1cm. I know ultrasounds can be off but I'll go with my juicing

that shrunk it~! :)

I am still waiting for a 3rd set of eyes to review the original slides

to see if they too, would have confirmed the cancer.

No matter what, I went against all odds with not having a TT and

surgeons made me feel like I was SOO wrong for doing that. Well here I

am with still a functioning thyroid and NO CANCER. Thank God.

If you ask me what I did, the answer is " what didn't I do " .

Everything I could. Including prayer, Reiki, dry skin brushing,

juicing, flax oil, etc...

Good luck, I believe I waited and postponed the surgery because I knew

there was something I could do. I believe this 100%.

" praterkym " wrote:

> This is the first time I have heard of someone going through this! I

> was diagnosed in Dec of 2004 with papillary thyroid cancer. I have

> done natural alternative and asked a few times if the biopsy was a sure

> thing. Well, apparantly it is not 100 percent. I am kind of at a loss

> for words. How did they make such a huge mistake? Was there any kind

> of explanation given to you? I have not had surgery.

>

> Thanks, Kym

>

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Please tell us what you did do.

What is skin brushing?

We all have the need to know. So please tell us all what you did.

Thank you for your fantastic story. I love a happy ending.

Sue Anne and e

malissa_ramirez writes:

I can tell you what happened for me. The first slides of the fluid

taken from my nodual were reviewed by 3 doctors and called it

" suspicious for.... " then it was sent to the Mayo clinic where it was

confirmed " positive for papillary carcinoma. " . My take on it is that

it could have been all along and that what I did changed it. As I

mentioned the orginal size was 1.6 and " actual " size at surgery was

barely 1cm. I know ultrasounds can be off but I'll go with my juicing

that shrunk it~! :)

I am still waiting for a 3rd set of eyes to review the original slides

to see if they too, would have confirmed the cancer.

No matter what, I went against all odds with not having a TT and

surgeons made me feel like I was SOO wrong for doing that. Well here I

am with still a functioning thyroid and NO CANCER. Thank God.

If you ask me what I did, the answer is " what didn't I do " .

Everything I could. Including prayer, Reiki, dry skin brushing,

juicing, flax oil, etc...

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Hi Addie:

I'm new to the group and have been watching the posts. Can you tell me what

you did? My large thryoid nodule (I have two, one large and one small) biopsy

is showing follicular changes and is very vascular. I have modified my diet now

for the last 3 months and my hubby and I believe my nodule is going down but I

haven't had a scan to verify that yet.

Warm regards,

Carol

AddieRHwrote:

Malissa, I commend you for your persistence for the right option and thank

God for the outcome of your surgery - NO CANCER!! I had a papillary thyroid

cancer diagnosis in Sept 2003. I chose to seek alternative options before

surgery. I have not had surgery and no chemo, no radiation, no radioactive

iodine

treatments. Addie

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That was a very inspirational story, . I know people have strong

attachments to their pets, but this was highly unusual. There are pets that go

to nursing homes and hospitals to bring cheer to the patients. They are chosen

for their suitability, they can't be too frisky and have to like to be petted.

I saw a program on TV where they showed how they picked the rights dogs to be

trained. We had our share of pets at home with 5 boys and when they got hurt or

killed, I cried more than the children. We had a Wiemariner who was so awkward,

she chewed up her dog house. My son took her to the vet's to get her shots and

she jumped over his head from the back of his little VW and beat him home. All

he could say was, " Mother, never again. Just don't ask me to do that ever. "

Every Sunday evening, he sits with me and tells me yet another story about his

childhood that I either forgot or they kept it a secret. LOL

Best wishes, ,

Lottie Duthu

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