Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 > Deanna > officially certified hunter for most of N America Is that a series of classes you took or what? Please, do tell... ~Robin Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Robin Ann, >Is that a series of classes you took or what? Please, do tell... > > It was comparable to getting CPR certified. It was a long weekend class. Still much to learn, but we all passed the written test with flying colors. No big deal. I ain't no professional or anything, lol. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 >The funniest thing is I came down (I live upstairs from them) a few >minutes late, and all of the serving dishes were right in my place, >since there was little room on the table. How sweet of them to put >big bowls of food in front of me! :-) > > Very conscientious, lol. It reminds me of when I tell DH I'm fasting. Inevitably, he becomes uncharacteristically interested in if I want to taste this or that. Oh well, if food doesn't interest you, then none of it matters much, eh? > >I have no idea. Let me go weigh myself... I weigh 152, which is a >pound more than I weighed two days ago or so, although I've been up >for a few hours and tend to gain weight during the day. So I've lost >about 9 or 10 pounds. Of course, I had already lost 7 pounds in a >week from doing low-carb/Mastering Leptin. > > That sounds really reasonable, and it should taper over time too, iirc. >I believe I am losing both fat and muscle mass, but I still appear to >be considerably more muscular than average so I'm not too worried >about it. > >I'm on the 8th day. I water fasted for 36 hours, but felt >instinctively that I needed to add coconut water back in, so had a >glass last night and felt very good after it. > > That's really prudent to do water fasting between the coconut water days. >Right now, I'm having a " meal " of a glass of coconut water and a >teaspoon of coconut oil. I am thinking that I will add an additional >1 teaspoon of coconut oil per day this week, and begin to build up the >two meals I was eating before, and water in between, although still >liquid fasting. If I can get my hands on a good free form amino acid >supplement I might add that in too in liewise small increments, since, >although it is protein, the free form wouldn't need digestion, so I'm >still preserving all the elements of liquid fasting. > >Then, at the end of the week, or beginning of next, I think I will add >a cup of bone broth to this " meal, " but will have to include HCl and >enzymes with it, since it has true proteins. I am going to start off >all food with HCl and enzymes for quite a while and then try to back >off the supplements later. Then, as suggested, after a few >days, I will add sauerkraut as first solid food, rare steak as second, >and ghee as third, one day at a time. I will hold off on all >starches, nuts, corn, eggs, and dairy for a long time. At some point >I will try butter and see if it affects me, although I'll try to get >goat butter or something, and then a couple months later cream, or >something like that. In any case I will space out all the foods that >are common allergens or have potential to affect dysbiosis, so I can >see the effect of each one. > > What a great plan for the end and breakfast. Why steak? Why not clean-raised liver or vegetable soup? And why are you shunning eggs too? I guess it's the allergen thingy. Keep us posted. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 On 8/8/05, Deanna Wagner <hl@...> wrote: > What a great plan for the end and breakfast. Why steak? Why not > clean-raised liver or vegetable soup? And why are you shunning eggs > too? I guess it's the allergen thingy. Keep us posted. Well, steak would be easier to digest than veggie soup, which wouldn't provide any protein, which is what I wouldn't have had for two weeks, and steak is lighter than liver. I think it's odd that you seem to be suggesting two different extremes like liver and veggie soup, on either side of steak. Anyway, I'll really *want* a steak at that point! What on earth is wrong with steak??? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 On 8/6/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote: > , > > Can I take the IF#1 now by itself, or do I have to wait until the IF#2 > comes in to take them together? Just a note, when you begin taking the #2, you will probably have to increase the #1 by a capsule or two. > I water fasted yesterday, but I was on the computer almost from waking > to sleeping, with breaks, and I was up to 1 am, then I began to feel > funny, and I was almost afraid I was going to pass out when brushing > my teeth before bed, and I got paranoid and had about 2-3 oz of orange > juice. I started getting super-paranoid that I was going to die in my > sleep or something, and then it leveled off, but I still had insomnia > from my brain being so wired from reading and writing all day > straight. It occurred to me that maybe I was starting to " detox " my > buried anxiety problems... No doubt. I would suggest you get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. And do some light walking as well. Akathists are great during a fast as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 On 8/9/05, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote: > No doubt. I would suggest you get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. > And do some light walking as well. Akathists are great during a fast > as well. The Paraklesis would probably be more appropriate to this one... ;-) Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 On 8/8/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote: > On 8/9/05, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote: > > > No doubt. I would suggest you get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. > > And do some light walking as well. Akathists are great during a fast > > as well. > > The Paraklesis would probably be more appropriate to this one... ;-) > > Chris LOL! Right you are on the new calendar. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 >>What a great plan for the end and breakfast. Why steak? Why not >>clean-raised liver or vegetable soup? And why are you shunning eggs >>too? I guess it's the allergen thingy. Keep us posted. >> >> > >Well, steak would be easier to digest than veggie soup, which wouldn't >provide any protein, which is what I wouldn't have had for two weeks, >and steak is lighter than liver. I think it's odd that you seem to be >suggesting two different extremes like liver and veggie soup, on >either side of steak. > > Well, I was thinking out loud and wondering, not suggesting. Veggie soup made from bone broth is what I was thinking, though, and it does have protein. It might even have beef in it. >Anyway, I'll really *want* a steak at that point! What on earth is >wrong with steak??? > Nothing wrong with steak. I had rare roast beef with horseradish sour cream last night. Raw steak would be best, but if it is seared and raw inside, that would taste better to me. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 On 8/9/05, Deanna Wagner <hl@...> wrote: > Well, I was thinking out loud and wondering, not suggesting. Veggie > soup made from bone broth is what I was thinking, though, and it does > have protein. It might even have beef in it. True, but I'm already planning to add the bone broth before solid foods so what I'd be adding is vegetables, not the broth. I think the drawback is it's more " comlicated. " It seems to violate the rule of adding one food a day, since a soup would contain many different vegetables. What if one of them gives me a problem and I don't know which? Also, I think there are various types of vegetables that contain carbohydrates that are harder to digest than others, and I think that in general, fiber might not be the best option. So I'm going to keep it simple regarding veggies at first and add raw sauerkruat, which I know to enhance my digestion rather than hinder it. I was actually thinking that some fruits might be best for next plant foods, like pineapple. Although, I react weird to some raw fruits so it might be best to cook fruits just in case at first. > >Anyway, I'll really *want* a steak at that point! What on earth is > >wrong with steak??? > > > Nothing wrong with steak. I had rare roast beef with horseradish sour > cream last night. Raw steak would be best, but if it is seared and raw > inside, that would taste better to me. I'm not so sure of that. I think that very rare steak might be easier to digest than raw. I'd have to experiment with it. I prefer steak that is high-heat cooked on the very outside but is only warmed enough to soften it and make it feel warm on the inside. Chris -- Want the other side of the cholesterol story? Find out what your doctor isn't telling you: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Hi Robin, > I always " implant " with good > probiotics afterward too... Can you describe how you do this? I've read about the implanting idea but was never comfortable with it. Hearing how someone I know has actually done it would be helpful. > [robin]For one person you need to have a long shower flower (or be > VERY short :-) and you hang the big heavy thing bag of water from > the shower handle. You get comfortable, grab a book and relax as > best you can and let the colon soak up the hydration. Take your > time... that's the key. Then when you've taken all you can, you walk > to the toilet. If there's an accident, the shower drain is a waste > line just like the toilet and so there's no harm done. BTW, it's > great for learning to control the kegels and whatever the butt > muscles are called inside. Very good for sexual health and becoming > comfortable with *every* part of your body... I couldn't agree more! After the first three or four you are pretty much over your life-long phobia about dealing with feces and your butt. Very helpful and kind of stress releasing. I'm a pretty uninhibited guy and am still surprised at how much resistance I had to everything I had to deal with the first time I did an enema a year or so ago. Now I couldn't care less. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 > Well, I was thinking out loud and wondering, not suggesting. Veggie > soup made from bone broth is what I was thinking, though, and it does > have protein. It might even have beef in it. > A really great trick that I've discovered post fast is to cook your veggies in bone broth until they are very soft and then blend them with a hand blender until they are pureed. I seem to tolerate that extraordinarily well and it tastes great. In fact, sometimes I'll take a hunk of cold raw butter and throw it in the middle of the bowl and kind of eat around it. Yum. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Chris- >Anyway, I'll really *want* a steak at that point! What on earth is >wrong with steak??? Nothing at all, except for being less nutrient-dense than organs. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 One more--steak and muscle meat in general is harder to digest. That's important because it affects mineral absorption. mike --- In , Idol <Idol@c...> wrote: > Chris- > > >Anyway, I'll really *want* a steak at that point! What on earth is > >wrong with steak??? > > Nothing at all, except for being less nutrient-dense than organs. > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hi everyone sorry its been so long since I last reported in. I ended up doing a 31 day water only fast then I had to stop there has been a family emergency my youngest son " s wife 7 months pregnet and 5 grandchildren were in a head on collision thank God they were in a 13 passager van so there injures were minimum except my 9 year old grandson ( they were all in there seats or seatbelts on thank God) was thrown forward and hit a metal bar that went across the back seat split his forehead open from one side to the other the plastic surgeon came in to repair it said he would never have feeling in it again then he had to have surgery and have about 4 inches of hie upper intestinal removed where the seat belt squeezed him so thigh he is home now but having a lot of problem remembering his short term memory is gone the dr. said give it a little more time if there is no improvement soon they will send him to a nurgeloist. please pray for him. the rest of the family was black and blue scratches and cuts the van rolled 3 times and stopped on its top all the windows broke out so they were covered in glass. the other car lost controlled it was raining real hard and she was trying to answer her cell phone so we were told she was killed on impact 38 years old mother of 10 the man was in the hospital not expected to live 3 children 12-16 all in hospital in bad shape. So as you can see I have been preoccuptied.I believe the fast would have been better if I could had went a few more days I still have some stiffness in myhands and wrist. I have not had any medication since I started my fast the doctor did tell me when I started refeeding I could expect a flair up and will all the stress I was under could cause a flare up. I did have a flare up but it was nothing compared to what it use to be and was short lived. the diet they say will make all the difference I know its a big change in the way that IM use to eating but I will get use to it I have already started adding a few things back in to see how I react to them so far have added tomatoes, onions, last night I added potatoes this morning I feel a little stiffness in my fingers so I guess I will delete them for about 3 weeks then reintroduce them to see if that the reason for the stiffness.but to be pain virtually pain free for the first time in almost one year thetas fantastic and no medication I intend to fast at home about 5-10 days every other month my sed rate when I left was 25 my cholesterol was227 down to 148 my weight went from 198 to 173 I have gained 10 lbs.back I should have lost more but I have low thyroid but thats 15 lbs and was a side benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hi everyone sorry its been so long since I last reported in. I ended up doing a 31 day water only fast then I had to stop there has been a family emergency my youngest son " s wife 7 months pregnet and 5 grandchildren were in a head on collision thank God they were in a 13 passager van so there injures were minimum except my 9 year old grandson ( they were all in there seats or seatbelts on thank God) was thrown forward and hit a metal bar that went across the back seat split his forehead open from one side to the other the plastic surgeon came in to repair it said he would never have feeling in it again then he had to have surgery and have about 4 inches of hie upper intestinal removed where the seat belt squeezed him so thigh he is home now but having a lot of problem remembering his short term memory is gone the dr. said give it a little more time if there is no improvement soon they will send him to a nurgeloist. please pray for him. the rest of the family was black and blue scratches and cuts the van rolled 3 times and stopped on its top all the windows broke out so they were covered in glass. the other car lost controlled it was raining real hard and she was trying to answer her cell phone so we were told she was killed on impact 38 years old mother of 10 the man was in the hospital not expected to live 3 children 12-16 all in hospital in bad shape. So as you can see I have been preoccuptied.I believe the fast would have been better if I could had went a few more days I still have some stiffness in myhands and wrist. I have not had any medication since I started my fast the doctor did tell me when I started refeeding I could expect a flair up and will all the stress I was under could cause a flare up. I did have a flare up but it was nothing compared to what it use to be and was short lived. the diet they say will make all the difference I know its a big change in the way that IM use to eating but I will get use to it I have already started adding a few things back in to see how I react to them so far have added tomatoes, onions, last night I added potatoes this morning I feel a little stiffness in my fingers so I guess I will delete them for about 3 weeks then reintroduce them to see if that the reason for the stiffness.but to be pain virtually pain free for the first time in almost one year thetas fantastic and no medication I intend to fast at home about 5-10 days every other month my sed rate when I left was 25 my cholesterol was227 down to 148 my weight went from 198 to 173 I have gained 10 lbs.back I should have lost more but I have low thyroid but thats 15 lbs and was a side benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hi , I will keep the family in my prayers. It sounds like you did good on the fasting. Have been thinking about you, glad you checked in, hugs Tawny > Hi everyone sorry its been so long since I last reported in. I ended up doing > a 31 day water only fast then I had to stop there has been a family emergency > my youngest son " s wife 7 months pregnet and 5 grandchildren were in a head > on collision thank God they were in a 13 passager van so there injures were > minimum except my 9 year old grandson ( they were all in there seats or > seatbelts on thank God) was thrown forward and hit a metal bar that went > across the back seat split his forehead open from one side to the other the > plastic surgeon came in to repair it said he would never have feeling in it again > then he had to have surgery and have about 4 inches of hie upper intestinal > removed where the seat belt squeezed him so thigh he is home now but having a lot > of problem remembering his short term memory is gone the dr. said give it a > little more time if there is no improvement soon they will send him to a > nurgeloist. please pray for him. the rest of the family was black and blue scratches > and cuts the van rolled 3 times and stopped on its top all the windows broke > out so they were covered in glass. the other car lost controlled it was > raining real hard and she was trying to answer her cell phone so we were told she > was killed on impact 38 years old mother of 10 the man was in the hospital not > expected to live 3 children 12-16 all in hospital in bad shape. So as you > can see I have been preoccuptied.I believe the fast would have been better if I > could had went a few more days I still have some stiffness in myhands and > wrist. I have not had any medication since I started my fast the doctor did tell > me when I started refeeding I could expect a flair up and will all the stress I > was under could cause a flare up. I did have a flare up but it was nothing > compared to what it use to be and was short lived. the diet they say will make > all the difference I know its a big change in the way that IM use to eating but > I will get use to it I have already started adding a few things back in to > see how I react to them so far have added tomatoes, onions, last night I added > potatoes this morning I feel a little stiffness in my fingers so I guess I > will delete them for about 3 weeks then reintroduce them to see if that the > reason for the stiffness.but to be pain virtually pain free for the first time in > almost one year thetas fantastic and no medication I intend to fast at home > about 5-10 days every other month my sed rate when I left was 25 my cholesterol > was227 down to 148 my weight went from 198 to 173 I have gained 10 lbs.back I > should have lost more but I have low thyroid but thats 15 lbs and was a side > benefit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hi , I will keep the family in my prayers. It sounds like you did good on the fasting. Have been thinking about you, glad you checked in, hugs Tawny > Hi everyone sorry its been so long since I last reported in. I ended up doing > a 31 day water only fast then I had to stop there has been a family emergency > my youngest son " s wife 7 months pregnet and 5 grandchildren were in a head > on collision thank God they were in a 13 passager van so there injures were > minimum except my 9 year old grandson ( they were all in there seats or > seatbelts on thank God) was thrown forward and hit a metal bar that went > across the back seat split his forehead open from one side to the other the > plastic surgeon came in to repair it said he would never have feeling in it again > then he had to have surgery and have about 4 inches of hie upper intestinal > removed where the seat belt squeezed him so thigh he is home now but having a lot > of problem remembering his short term memory is gone the dr. said give it a > little more time if there is no improvement soon they will send him to a > nurgeloist. please pray for him. the rest of the family was black and blue scratches > and cuts the van rolled 3 times and stopped on its top all the windows broke > out so they were covered in glass. the other car lost controlled it was > raining real hard and she was trying to answer her cell phone so we were told she > was killed on impact 38 years old mother of 10 the man was in the hospital not > expected to live 3 children 12-16 all in hospital in bad shape. So as you > can see I have been preoccuptied.I believe the fast would have been better if I > could had went a few more days I still have some stiffness in myhands and > wrist. I have not had any medication since I started my fast the doctor did tell > me when I started refeeding I could expect a flair up and will all the stress I > was under could cause a flare up. I did have a flare up but it was nothing > compared to what it use to be and was short lived. the diet they say will make > all the difference I know its a big change in the way that IM use to eating but > I will get use to it I have already started adding a few things back in to > see how I react to them so far have added tomatoes, onions, last night I added > potatoes this morning I feel a little stiffness in my fingers so I guess I > will delete them for about 3 weeks then reintroduce them to see if that the > reason for the stiffness.but to be pain virtually pain free for the first time in > almost one year thetas fantastic and no medication I intend to fast at home > about 5-10 days every other month my sed rate when I left was 25 my cholesterol > was227 down to 148 my weight went from 198 to 173 I have gained 10 lbs.back I > should have lost more but I have low thyroid but thats 15 lbs and was a side > benefit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 , I'm so sorry this has happened to your family. I pray has a full recovery as well as the rest of the family. The number of lives that are forever changed just from answering a cell phone. It's to bad that your fast had to end this way. With all the stress going on, you really can't judge the results fairly. You family will be in my prayers. a On Sep 1, 2005, at 11:10 AM, mamajudies@... wrote: > Hi everyone sorry its been so long since I last reported in. I > ended up doing > a 31 day water only fast then I had to stop there has been a family > emergency > my youngest son " s wife 7 months pregnet and 5 grandchildren were > in a head > on collision thank God they were in a 13 passager van so there > injures were > minimum except my 9 year old grandson ( they were all in there > seats or > seatbelts on thank God) was thrown forward and hit a metal > bar that went > across the back seat split his forehead open from one side to the > other the > plastic surgeon came in to repair it said he would never have > feeling in it again > then he had to have surgery and have about 4 inches of hie upper > intestinal > removed where the seat belt squeezed him so thigh he is home now > but having a lot > of problem remembering his short term memory is gone the dr. said > give it a > little more time if there is no improvement soon they will send him > to a > nurgeloist. please pray for him. the rest of the family was black > and blue scratches > and cuts the van rolled 3 times and stopped on its top all the > windows broke > out so they were covered in glass. the other car lost controlled > it was > raining real hard and she was trying to answer her cell phone so we > were told she > was killed on impact 38 years old mother of 10 the man was in the > hospital not > expected to live 3 children 12-16 all in hospital in bad shape. So > as you > can see I have been preoccuptied.I believe the fast would have been > better if I > could had went a few more days I still have some stiffness in > myhands and > wrist. I have not had any medication since I started my fast the > doctor did tell > me when I started refeeding I could expect a flair up and will all > the stress I > was under could cause a flare up. I did have a flare up but it was > nothing > compared to what it use to be and was short lived. the diet they > say will make > all the difference I know its a big change in the way that IM use > to eating but > I will get use to it I have already started adding a few things > back in to > see how I react to them so far have added tomatoes, onions, last > night I added > potatoes this morning I feel a little stiffness in my fingers so I > guess I > will delete them for about 3 weeks then reintroduce them to see if > that the > reason for the stiffness.but to be pain virtually pain free for the > first time in > almost one year thetas fantastic and no medication I intend to fast > at home > about 5-10 days every other month my sed rate when I left was 25 > my cholesterol > was227 down to 148 my weight went from 198 to 173 I have gained 10 > lbs.back I > should have lost more but I have low thyroid but thats 15 lbs and > was a side > benefit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 , I'm so sorry this has happened to your family. I pray has a full recovery as well as the rest of the family. The number of lives that are forever changed just from answering a cell phone. It's to bad that your fast had to end this way. With all the stress going on, you really can't judge the results fairly. You family will be in my prayers. a On Sep 1, 2005, at 11:10 AM, mamajudies@... wrote: > Hi everyone sorry its been so long since I last reported in. I > ended up doing > a 31 day water only fast then I had to stop there has been a family > emergency > my youngest son " s wife 7 months pregnet and 5 grandchildren were > in a head > on collision thank God they were in a 13 passager van so there > injures were > minimum except my 9 year old grandson ( they were all in there > seats or > seatbelts on thank God) was thrown forward and hit a metal > bar that went > across the back seat split his forehead open from one side to the > other the > plastic surgeon came in to repair it said he would never have > feeling in it again > then he had to have surgery and have about 4 inches of hie upper > intestinal > removed where the seat belt squeezed him so thigh he is home now > but having a lot > of problem remembering his short term memory is gone the dr. said > give it a > little more time if there is no improvement soon they will send him > to a > nurgeloist. please pray for him. the rest of the family was black > and blue scratches > and cuts the van rolled 3 times and stopped on its top all the > windows broke > out so they were covered in glass. the other car lost controlled > it was > raining real hard and she was trying to answer her cell phone so we > were told she > was killed on impact 38 years old mother of 10 the man was in the > hospital not > expected to live 3 children 12-16 all in hospital in bad shape. So > as you > can see I have been preoccuptied.I believe the fast would have been > better if I > could had went a few more days I still have some stiffness in > myhands and > wrist. I have not had any medication since I started my fast the > doctor did tell > me when I started refeeding I could expect a flair up and will all > the stress I > was under could cause a flare up. I did have a flare up but it was > nothing > compared to what it use to be and was short lived. the diet they > say will make > all the difference I know its a big change in the way that IM use > to eating but > I will get use to it I have already started adding a few things > back in to > see how I react to them so far have added tomatoes, onions, last > night I added > potatoes this morning I feel a little stiffness in my fingers so I > guess I > will delete them for about 3 weeks then reintroduce them to see if > that the > reason for the stiffness.but to be pain virtually pain free for the > first time in > almost one year thetas fantastic and no medication I intend to fast > at home > about 5-10 days every other month my sed rate when I left was 25 > my cholesterol > was227 down to 148 my weight went from 198 to 173 I have gained 10 > lbs.back I > should have lost more but I have low thyroid but thats 15 lbs and > was a side > benefit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Joe wrote: > > I am doing an Islamic fast, with it being ramadam. if anyone would like i could post with a little intro as to what it is i have to do and a little report on progress every few days. ==>Please don't. This group is not the place for listing religious fasts and protocols. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 This was not to report anything religious, i.e any spiritual realization during fast. merely the healing effect of abstaining from food and drink twelves hours of the day whilst adhereing to the diet. Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote: Joe wrote: > > I am doing an Islamic fast, with it being ramadam. if anyone would like i could post with a little intro as to what it is i have to do and a little report on progress every few days. ==>Please don't. This group is not the place for listing religious fasts and protocols. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Joe wrote: > > This was not to report anything religious, i.e any spiritual realization during fast. merely the healing effect of abstaining from food and drink twelves hours of the day whilst adhereing to the diet. ==>Joe, fasting is not a good idea when you have candida. You needs the nutrients to build up your immune system. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 I work with a couple people who fast during Ramadan. They have to " fast " from sunrise to sunset and then get to eat. I don't see this as a big deal. It's more like my eating schedule becomes sometimes - when I'm really busy I often don't eat at predetermined times and sometimes forget to eat breakfast and lunch. It's long-term fasting that becomes a problem. Dr. Atkins addressed this in his book. When the body goes into ketosis, it looks for proteins to break down fats, etc. If the body isn't supplied with protein, it breaks down the muscles of the body instead. Not a good thing! Zack On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, joanne finigan wrote: > i can understand your concern, but missing one meal a day doesn't mean your gona be nutritionally deprived. we take breakfast just b 4 sunirise and break our fast when the sun goes down. > > Joe wrote: > > > > This was not to report anything religious, i.e any spiritual > realization during fast. merely the healing effect of abstaining from > food and drink twelves hours of the day whilst adhereing to the diet. > > ==>Joe, fasting is not a good idea when you have candida. You needs > the nutrients to build up your immune system. > > Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Joe wrote: " i can understand your concern, but missing one meal a day doesn't mean your gona be nutritionally deprived. we take breakfast just b 4 sunrise and break our fast when the sun goes down. " ----------------------- Hi, Here are my two cents worth :-) - My basic approach with this regimen is why not give it a try and follow it as is rather than modify it beforehand or before giving it enough time? Seems to me it works fine as is. (Of course, if there is a genuine problem with something, one has to make informed decisions. For instance, I still react to chicken eggs, chicken, and possibly beef; so instead, I would eat duck eggs and turkey, as well as bison, horse and deer, all of which do not prevent from following the regimen as is. Other had difficulties with the electrolyte drink and found creative ways to ingest its components. Also, if someone is medically and severely allergic to something (e.g.: lemons), it would make sense that they abstain regardless, rather than making themselves severely sick.) - On the other hand, maybe your body is doing well enough that doing that particular kind of fasting does you good, as you described. All the better for you. For my part, though I fasted in my twenties, fasting would not be good for me at the present time because of candidasis and hypoglycemia; that's where my body is at. - As well, from what I understand, the mission of this support group is to help along the way with Bee's regimen specifically, rather than explore many avenues, which is different from other groups and might take some adjustment. I find however that there is still lots of really useful and new information posted all the time. I for one am glad I found this group and happy to stick to this structured approach because I was getting overloaded by too much and conflicting information, and not much else had worked completely before this. I'm glad that your health has improved much (which is the ultimate purpose), and I hope my two-cents-worth/understanding-of-this regimen/group makes sense. :-) Take good care, Fran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Zack wrote: > > I work with a couple people who fast during Ramadan. They have to " fast " from sunrise to sunset and then get to eat. I don't see this as a big deal. It's more like my eating schedule becomes sometimes - when I'm really busy I often don't eat at predetermined times and sometimes forget to eat breakfast and lunch. > > It's long-term fasting that becomes a problem. Dr. Atkins addressed this in his book. When the body goes into ketosis, it looks for proteins to break down fats, etc. If the body isn't supplied with protein, it breaks down the muscles of the body instead. Not a good thing! ==>Zack, I agree with you that the type of fast during Ramadan is not a big deal. I kinda jumped the gun on that one when I saw long lists of meals. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.