Dumb Question

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the great posts! I don't know if Bill Gates vaccinates

his children, but take a look at this site.

http://www.all.org/gates/

> I keep seeing Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation giving money to

promote

> vaccines, but does anyone know if they immunized their child or

not? I

> know it sounds dumb but I can't keep wondering if they are just

doing

> this as a tax write off and are unwilling to subject their child to

the

> risks of vaccines.

>

> --

>

> Debbie

>

> Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.

[Guest guest]

,

I have a 7.5 year with HFA/AS. He also obsesses about toilets. First, he

would not potty train until he was 5.5. To this day, he holds his ears in public

toilets and must rate them based on their quietness. He needs to visit a toilet

everywhere we go.

This year, he has decided he won't go in school. Working on this.

Robin

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Tina

Your question is not dumb. My son is five years old and became very obsessive

with tiolets from the age of three years till now. Although some days/ weeks can

be worse. He is very intested in visiting the tiolet whenever we go out. He

assumes every shop or building has a tiolet and always demands to go.He likes to

flush tiolet or pull some cord. He often uses the phrase, " no wee " out of the

ordinary.

This obsessive thinking becomes very difficult when leaving the house. It is

under control at school but its when visiting new places or out and about. Is

anyone familar with this? It can be very stressfull at times. I hate tiolets i

have kept this to myself for along time and now i take this opportunity thanks

to Tina

Best Wishes

---- Original Message -----

From: pennington1994

Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:26 AM

Subject: dumb question

oh,this may sound like a dumb question, but has anyone found anything

that helps obsessive compulsive behavior. tina

[Guest guest]

Please could you tell me what PANDAS is

dumb question

Have you looked at PANDAS?

Prue

[Guest guest]

Robin,

I take it you are working on yeast too. It must be hard especially if it is

going to affect him going into school. If you find a solution to getting rid off

this tiolet business please keep me posted.

Thanks

Re: dumb question

,

I have a 7.5 year with HFA/AS. He also obsesses about toilets. First, he

would not potty train until he was 5.5. To this day, he holds his ears in

public

toilets and must rate them based on their quietness. He needs to visit a

toilet

everywhere we go.

This year, he has decided he won't go in school. Working on this.

Robin

[Guest guest]

A lot of people have reported that Inositol helps.

It helped a lot my son regarding anxiety.

His anxiety is gone...!

> oh,this may sound like a dumb question, but has anyone found

anything

> that helps obsessive compulsive behavior. tina

[Guest guest]

,

Where did you purchase it from? as i am in the U.K i have problems getting hold

of some products especially if they are American products. please adise if you

can.

Thanks

Re: dumb question

A lot of people have reported that Inositol helps.

It helped a lot my son regarding anxiety.

His anxiety is gone...!

> oh,this may sound like a dumb question, but has anyone found

anything

> that helps obsessive compulsive behavior. tina

[Guest guest]

Holt- wrote:

>According to the Guidelines for the scuba diver's physical examination, it

>can lead to gas getting trapped in a hollow viscous which expands as the

>diver surfaces and can lead to rupture.

Ok, that makes sense. If you can't burp you may have trouble with gas if

spending enough time down deep enough. If your LES is hypertensive enough

and you have been producing gas in your stomach you could have a problem

when you try to surface. Gas for some people with achalasia can also cause

the UES to not relax as it should for a burp. I wonder how much pressure

the UES and spasms can produce to hold gas back, or if you have had good

surgery results would there still be anything to worry about. Anyway, it

isn't a problem for snorkeling, you would not be deep enough long enough.

Hollow viscous (hollow organ) is also spelled hollow viscus. For an

interesting case see:

http://jkms.kams.or.kr/2003/pdf/04281.pdf

notan

[Guest guest]

Notan wrote:

or if you have had good surgery

results would there still be anything to worry about.

It seems to me that there would be a much

higher risk in someone who has had surgery due to the very thin window of

mucous at the site of the myotomy that could easily

be ruptured.

Anyway, it isn't a problem for snorkeling, you

would not be deep enough long enough.

You’re right, I’ll just have

to stick to the snorkeling, which is o.k. with me…I love snorkeling.

Sandi

Holt-

Groups Links

·

To visit your group on the

web, go to:

achalasia/

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[Guest guest]

OMG, Sandi.... you are KILLING me this week!!! "Welcome your ass on board" is TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!! LOLDeb, wondering what kind of funny stuff Sandi will come up with next week!!!!!

O.K. …I laughed so hard I gave myself a headache, but the way I learned it, it means “Bottoms Up”! But “welcome your ass on board” works too! That is too funny.

[Guest guest]

That's a very reasonable question. :-) As I've stated before I was taking

Celexa. I woke up one morning and realized that for the first time in months I

felt like me again. But it took me a bit longer than most people.

If I remember correctly from what others here have said, they've felt better

anywhere from 3 days to 3 weeks. Again, it varies from person to person. Just

don't give up on it too soon. It took me 6 months to reach of point of stability

on the Celexa and that's *way* outside the time frame most people experience.

Barbara

Dumb Question

Ok, here's a really dumb question for you - I've been Lexapro exactly two

weeks. How do you know when it's " working " . Do you suddenly start feeling more

peppy, more happy? How did you begin to notice it was working? (I know it

can take a month sometimes to " kick in " - just wanted to know what I'm looking

for.)

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your replies. I have noticed 2 things. The first is I am

definately sleeping better. No more tossing and turning all night. The other

was

that I was very upset about my weight. I think I told you I had lost 160 lbs,

but put 20 lbs back on and was terrified of being fat again. Anyway I had

joined Weight Watchers, but was yo-yoing up and down. Before Lex, I felt like

" I

really can't do this, and I don't care " . The last couple of days I've felt

like " I can do this, but it's hard. " I begin the day on program, but fizzle out

at the end of the day and give in to the food. BUT - I'm half way there -

LOL Maybe that IS a change. Maybe a few more days I'll have the attitude of " I

really can do this, and it isn't so hard " and make a FULL day on program.

Depression sucks doesn't it? LOL

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[Guest guest]

Guess what? I have elements of both: slow sad and lethargic, and nervous

irritable anxious. My Lex has its work cut out for it. Hehehehe.

During the first week, I felt a reduction of panic and lots and lots of

motivation. I was out walking every day, excited about applying for a guide

dog. Some of that high motivation has died down somewhat, and I was feeling

a bit panicky yesterday. I hope old Lex isn't deciding to poop out on me.

Thea

Re: Dumb Question

The short answer is that it's working when you begin to feel relief

from whatever problem made you think you needed it in the first

place. It depends totally why you're taking it and the symptoms

you're showing. It's not necessarily a highly dramatic or sudden

change; it can be subtle, but it still should be very noticeable.

If you're taking it for depression, and you're the slow-sad-lethargic

type of depressive, then yes, you should feel more energetic and

peppy. But if you're the nervous/irritable/anxiety-ridden type of

depressive, you should feel calmer and more tolerant, but not

necessarily peppier.

Some people take it for anxiety, obsessive-compulsive disorder, or

other stuff -- but whatever you're taking it for, you're looking for

a reversal of what plagues you. If you don't start to feel

significantly and noticeably better by six weeks at the latest, I'd

see your doctor about trying a different medicine.

> Ok, here's a really dumb question for you - I've been Lexapro

exactly two

> weeks. How do you know when it's " working " . Do you suddenly start

feeling more

> peppy, more happy? How did you begin to notice it was working? (I

know it

> can take a month sometimes to " kick in " - just wanted to know what

I'm looking

> for.)

>

>

> ´¨¨)) -:¦:-

> ¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

> ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:-

> -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Dumb question

>

>

>Dumb Question: How does one change from receiving the e-mails at home

>to just reading them on the forum?

>Thanks,

>Herbert

>

>

Not a dumb question. Go to

click on " edit my

membership " in the top right corner. Scroll down to " message delivery " and

select " no email " . You will stop receiving emails. To view messages on the

website, go to the link above and peruse at your leisure!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Suze!

Herbert

Dumb question

>

>

>Dumb Question: How does one change from receiving the e-mails at home

>to just reading them on the forum?

>Thanks,

>Herbert

>

>

Not a dumb question. Go to

click on " edit my

membership " in the top right corner. Scroll down to " message delivery " and

select " no email " . You will stop receiving emails. To view messages on the

website, go to the link above and peruse at your leisure!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

Hopefully someone can help me out, but if not it's completely alright. =)

Okay, this may be a really unintelligent question for me to ask (I've been known

to be a dufus sometimes!!). So, here it goes....

If a child has cerebral palsy, autism, or down syndrome and ALSO is non-verbal,

is being non-verbal only a side-effect of the " real " problem and explained by

merely that main category or can the non-verbalization be classified as some

other secondary dx like apraxia, dysarthria?

See...I'm a little confused. For my daughter's entire life, no SLP EVER

mentioned apraxia or dysarthria or anything other than " Oh, well, she just has

XX and that's why she doesn't talk " BUT, I've been doing some reading on the

net and now I'm thinking differently about all of it.

Second question.....

Can verbal apraxia be distinguised from dysarthria? If so, how? Can I decide

this on my own and go from there? Or do I need to find someone capable of

diagnosing it (chuckle!!) ? I'm just not sure how to approach finding out the

reason for her being non-verbal and I'm also unsure of how to approach some type

of a treatment plan.

If any one can offer advice or guidance I would greatly appreciate it. =)

Thanks,

da

[Guest guest]

Okay, guys and gals, scratch this question...I found the answer!!! LOL!

Re: [ ] dumb question

Hopefully someone can help me out, but if not it's completely alright. =)

Okay, this may be a really unintelligent question for me to ask (I've been

known to be a dufus sometimes!!). So, here it goes....

If a child has cerebral palsy, autism, or down syndrome and ALSO is

non-verbal, is being non-verbal only a side-effect of the " real " problem and

explained by merely that main category or can the non-verbalization be

classified as some other secondary dx like apraxia, dysarthria?

See...I'm a little confused. For my daughter's entire life, no SLP EVER

mentioned apraxia or dysarthria or anything other than " Oh, well, she just has

XX and that's why she doesn't talk " BUT, I've been doing some reading on the

net and now I'm thinking differently about all of it.

Second question.....

Can verbal apraxia be distinguised from dysarthria? If so, how? Can I decide

this on my own and go from there? Or do I need to find someone capable of

diagnosing it (chuckle!!) ? I'm just not sure how to approach finding out the

reason for her being non-verbal and I'm also unsure of how to approach some type

of a treatment plan.

If any one can offer advice or guidance I would greatly appreciate it. =)

Thanks,

da

[Guest guest]

re: dumb question

Actually, excellent question. MAny disorders have motor problems associated

with them, and in some cases caused directly by them. Autism would be an

example of a disorder in which motor problems are associated with the disorder

because no one still really understands the cause(s) of autism, but many of

these children appear to have motor problems which affect the body and speech.

In children with cerebral palsy, the motor problems which affect speech and body

movements are classified as spastic dysarthria, with the spastic term referring

to the inability of the muscles to relax. (There are different types of

dysathria.) In this case, as I understand it, the damage to the brain causing

the cerebral palsy is responsible for the spastic dysarthria.

There are criteria for distinguishing between apraxia and dysarthria, but I

think that they are much more easily applied to adults. In general, dysathria

means decreased muscle strength, range of motion, and rate of movement. I think

this is easier to judge in an adult for whom these areas were once normal. The

problem is that because a child with apraxia has difficulty initiating and

coordinating articulator movement, they won't necessarily develop normal muscle

strength, range of motion, or rate of movement. I have seen children who were

clearly apraxic during the initial stages of treatment exhibit symptoms of

dysarthria as treatment helps them overcome the apraxia. Because of the

apraxia, they don't seem to develop normal muscle movement which also causes

symptoms of dysathria.

Finally, it really depends on the severity of the underlying disoder as to

whether a child is nonverbal. Many children with autism, Down's syndrome,

cerebral palsy, etc. are verbal.

I hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

Are you drinking with the pretzels? If so, they wash right through.

dan

Friday, September 24, 2004, 2:57:08 PM, you wrote:

C> I know this is a dumb question and I believe I know the answer but I

C> would like to throw it out there to you all. Why is it I can eat

C> handfuls of pretzels (I know I'm not supposed too but unfortunately

C> I have a time or two) and not feel any fullness but if I have my

C> meal and have more than 1/2 cup to 1cup I am too full?

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 61

[Guest guest]

, all " junk " -type stuff goes right through the band and will

not keep you full. The band only works with SOLID foods - not

pretzels, popcorn, sweets, ice cream, pretzels, chips, etc. This is

not to say that you can never have any of this stuff, but don't

expect the band to stop you.

You might also have been drinking fluid with the pretzels, and

washing them through. This is one of the reasons we should not be

drinking with meals, or for an hour after.

I'm sure you are choosing better foods for your meals, so they are

filling your pouch well and making the band work. 1/2 - 1 cup per

meal is perfect. Sandy RN

> I know this is a dumb question and I believe I know the answer but

I

> would like to throw it out there to you all. Why is it I can eat

> handfuls of pretzels (I know I'm not supposed too but unfortunately

> I have a time or two) and not feel any fullness but if I have my

> meal and have more than 1/2 cup to 1cup I am too full?

>

>

>

> Dr.

> 6/25/04

> -32

[Guest guest]

There are no " dumb " questions - the band is a very quirky thing and

it takes awhile to learn about it.And it can be very inconsistent and

unpredictable, too. " Junk " type stuff always goes right through - it

is one of the UNfair things about the band!! Sandy R

> Thanks to Sandy and Dan for answering my dumb question...I wasn't

> drinking any fluid at the time. It just seems that if you ate quite

> a bit (more than 1/2-1 cup) with as bulky as pretzels seems to be

> that one would feel some fullness. I love my band! Just wish I

> could get past some cravings.

>

>

> 6/25/04

> Dr.

> -32

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/19/2005 6:28:40 AM US Mountain Standard Time, elizabethboston@... writes:

Is anybody out there in the with Samters in the senior age range (60 plus) or do you know anybody who is?I don't know an older person with our malaise. Is it cuz we mostly die young or is there any chance this disease diminishes its ferocity with age?

Liz,

I still have 4 months before I reach that "senior" point. But I still get AARP discounts at Holiday Inn. Doesn't bother me. What does bother me is all the 70-80 year old people out here that seem younger than me, thanks to my nose. I'm happy they all have bionic knees. But I've learned to mix in with the younger set by saying - Jeepers Creepers, Dude.

I joined this board because I have all the symptoms of Samters. It's been horrible for the past 5 years and wonder if I might have kicked years ago if I didn't drink so much beer (brewers yeast). But the age thing brings up another point that should, at least, be considered.

Samters Triad went into the medical textbooks and has been there since 1922. Geeez. Those were the days that people had different size brains based on skin color. Those were the days when melancholy was treated with a sharp drill bit or wires attached to a battery. Those were the days that men started to wear sweaters out in public in a blasphemous display of disrespect. Those were the days when everybody sucked down illegal hooch behind the barn. Everybody smoked, our great public health system was in its infancy and on and on.

My point is only that we all need to keep our minds a little open to other possible causes. One of the things humans bring to the party that's very good is an ability to write and develop ever increasing libraries. I recently went out for pizza with a former associate of my father, both of whom taught at NU. I was a little taken back when he said "Your father couldn't even get a job teaching biology 101 if he were alive today!! He couldn't even get a job in high school!!" But he was right, as usual. What I really felt bad about was that, at 95, he kept backing his car into his neighbors cars and had to take driver training all over again...in the summer...in this God awful heat.

Lot's of new research is constantly being conducted that will continue to help now and in the future. Maybe aspirin won't get a warning label from the FDA because of the uproar and the embarrassment it'll cause to the FDA and AMA, right on the heals of Vioxx, Celebrex and Bextra. Millions and millions take it for heart healthy. Perhaps we'll see a slow process though change. First, only take a coated 85mg aspirin and avoid the 325mg cheap stuff. Then it'll be every other day...then every third day..then it'll disappear and we'll all be taking Omega3 pills. If they go too far, complete industries could be destroyed in the food business and doctors would be overwhelmed with calls. People would just stop taking it, without other lifestyle changes, and may drop dead.

But at this point, I still don't get desens. as the first approach vs. trying several others, if one hasn't considered it. I'm on the 10mg Singulair treatment now, but plan to see what happens without it after I finish my gut fix. I thought of 20mg recently and someone piped in that she was on 30mg. I keep thinking of the Celebrex problem (cox2 inhibitor) when they were testing high doses for colon polyps. Not very attractive.

We'll all eventually get there. But the money is in the treatment, not the cure. There are, however, some pretty good treatments showing up.

Now I'm off to Home Depot with a new coupon. Later.

Long Winded (with way too much time on his hands) (AZ)

[Guest guest]

And another thing, now that I'm back Home Depot with a new, sharp drill bit.

Think of the pharmaceuticals available back in 1922 and earlier. People would wander down to the corner drugstore for a codeine enriched Coca Cola. If they really felt ill, they could choose from a large number of vials containing elixirs and ethers. Liquefied spices and herbs. Or they could pop the "miracle drug" like candy for everything from headaches to gout to shingles. No one had health insurance, so a shot of morphine from Doc to fix the maladies was probably out of reach for most. Cancer was never discussed. It was the "C" word that didn't leave the family home (or Las Vegas). Women saved their bacon grease and lard in a can on the stove and used it for everything from frying to gravy. Water filters? Garbage trucks? Frozen foods? Meats cooked to 180 degrees? It was a different time.

Samper and Wadel became famous for recognizing the triad disease. But maybe the "disease" was far more prevalent in their time. No wonder it was a problem. People were eating away their stomachs, intestines and immune systems with aspirin. But it probably was a much larger vicious cycle so they kept upping the dose.

So perhaps, just perhaps, one of the reasons we may be living much longer today is not so much because of the great advances in pharmaceuticals, but more because the pharmaceuticals available today clearly offer a better alternative to aspirin, so people don't need to take it as much as they use to. We now have NSAID's in every flavor. It's 2005 and the FDA is just recognizing a warning label might be appropriate, except for aspirin, 100 years later. Just wonderful. Holy Moly... what a rad thought.

Time for my nap now. I'm almost 60, you know.

(AZ)

[Guest guest]

Liz,

Is 56 close enough to being a senior? I'd love it if it diminished with age!!

Billie in Texas Boston <elizabethboston@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Is anybody out there in the with Samters in the senior age range (60 plus) or do you know anybody who is?

I don't know an older person with our malaise. Is it cuz we mostly die young or is there any chance this disease diminishes its ferocity with age?

Liz

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I've got you by one, Billie. I'm 57. I discovered my Samters in about 1989 at

age 42.

Jim

--- billie ford <msbfford@...> wrote:

> Liz,

> Is 56 close enough to being a senior? I'd love it if it diminished with age!!

> Billie in Texas

>

> Boston <elizabethboston@...> wrote:

> Hi All,

> Is anybody out there in the with Samters in the senior age range (60 plus) or

do you know

> anybody who is?

> I don't know an older person with our malaise. Is it cuz we mostly die young

or is there any

> chance this disease diminishes its ferocity with age?

>

> Liz

>

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