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In a message dated 11/25/06 8:32:07 PM, beauticontroldiv@... writes:

> When I was going to Nursing school we were told vegetarians we not as

> healthy . You need the proteins from the animals>>>

>

That simply isn't true.

Tests and statistics back it up. There are non-animal sources of protein.

You are the first person who has ever told me that.

If I get time I will post the tests and studies.

Pris

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> Have you presented your lifestyle and health situation to any

> alternative health people? I would love to hear a response.>>>

I have been eating all organic and mostly vegetarian for the last 6 months. I

can not say it has made any difference at all in the RA symptoms. My bi-polar

has improved though. Less depression and far less anxiety. I have done some

reading on natural alternatives but can't find that any make a difference in

auto immune disease.

phine Askren

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My older sister has been a vegetarian for about 50 years and can't

understand why she had to have a triple bypass about 10 years ago. So far,

I've eaten a balanced diet all my life and ate quantities I wanted, and am

still in comparative good physical shape. I haven't had any blood

circulation problems yet.

Dennis in Eastexas

" It's not Rocket Surgery "

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> When I was going to Nursing school we were told vegetarians were not as

> healthy . You need the proteins from the animals. I have seen vegetarians

> to

> have supplements to stay healthy.

>

>

>

> Sherry, LPN

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In a message dated 11/27/06 10:46:48 AM, zwaldski@... writes:

> I guess a clean and healthy lifestyle doesn't necessarily prevent RA or

> other diseases from happening?

>

Not RA, but many other diseases....

I have never read about any conclusive diet studies with RA that can

substantiate that one diet is dramatically better than another....anyone else?

It is strange......

however, if you are overweight, it will take its toll on your joints.....

Pris

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Not at all. Obviously - I'm not trying to imply that this lifestyle

is bad for you. My question is and not particularly for you..... just

out there...

I guess a clean and healthy lifestyle doesn't necessarily prevent RA or

other diseases from happening?

I also lean toward the low fat diet and exercise and I have RA as well.

Perhaps heredity plays a stronger roll? I would love to find answers.

I'm not being critical of your life style at all.

It's just a puzzling subject.

I've presented this question to Dr. Weil (on his website) and he

or whomever refers me to a particular section which doesn't really

address the subject adequately. Probably because the people or person

writing it doesn't have RA. Ya think?? :)

Carol

On Nov 25, 2006, at 10:31 PM, NELLIESTAR@... wrote:

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>

> > Have you presented your lifestyle and health situation to any

> > alternative health people? I would love to hear a response.>>>>>

> >

>

> What can they say?

> Eating fresh veggies, vitamins, calcium, fish, and exercising and

> staying in

> top shape is bad for me?

> Pris

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NOT a dumb question.

I always played it by ear. Last summer my dd had her band and we had little league games to go to. I usually left the band on until I could tell that she was getting warm. I also compensated for her body heat by dressing her lightly.

HTH!

Jen and Luli (16mo)

Left Tort - Right Plagio - Hanger Band Grad - CA

tallulah jayne

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/

Dumb Question

Hey, everyone! I have a weird question. Does anyone know the

guidelines on having a baby outside in the heat with a helmet on?

We're pretty new to this helmet stuff, and it's already getting

really hot where I live (SC). We're supposed to have a playgroup

outside tomorrow morning and the high will be 85. I doubt it will be

that hot at 10 am, but I don't want to take Chloe outside to this

thing if she's going to be miserable and sweaty. I also don't want

to deprive her of all the fun things we could be doing outside over

the Spring and Summer. Most important is her safety of course.

What do you all think? She has been wearing the thing for a few

weeks now and her body temperature has gotten more used to the extra

heat, but I don't want her to overheat or anything.

Thanks,

Amy,

mom to Chloe, 11-month-old with left plagio, right tort and delayed

motor skills; also mom to Eli, 3-year-old former right tort baby!

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Hi, my response is similar to Jen's. We kept our eye on her and

dressed her lightly. If she was in the sun and it was hot out I would

take it off. If she was in the shade and seemed okay I kept it on.

Also cool off the car before putting her in, or take her band off. It

is easy to overheat in a hot car.

-christine

sydney 15 mo starband grad

>

> NOT a dumb question.

> I always played it by ear. Last summer my dd had her band and we

had little league games to go to. I usually left the band on until I

could tell that she was getting warm. I also compensated for her body

heat by dressing her lightly.

> HTH!

> Jen and Luli (16mo)

> Left Tort - Right Plagio - Hanger Band Grad - CA

> tallulah jayne

> http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/

>

>

> Dumb Question

>

>

> Hey, everyone! I have a weird question. Does anyone know the

> guidelines on having a baby outside in the heat with a helmet on?

>

> We're pretty new to this helmet stuff, and it's already getting

> really hot where I live (SC). We're supposed to have a playgroup

> outside tomorrow morning and the high will be 85. I doubt it will be

> that hot at 10 am, but I don't want to take Chloe outside to this

> thing if she's going to be miserable and sweaty. I also don't want

> to deprive her of all the fun things we could be doing outside over

> the Spring and Summer. Most important is her safety of course.

>

> What do you all think? She has been wearing the thing for a few

> weeks now and her body temperature has gotten more used to the extra

> heat, but I don't want her to overheat or anything.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Amy,

> mom to Chloe, 11-month-old with left plagio, right tort and delayed

> motor skills; also mom to Eli, 3-year-old former right tort baby!

>

>

>

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Hi,

My dd was banded in July. Once her body temp adjusted to being

banded, she was ok out in the heat. I just made sure I dressed her

in light clothes and usually kept her feet bare. I hope you go to

your playgroup tomorrow and have a great time w/her.

>

> Hey, everyone! I have a weird question. Does anyone know the

> guidelines on having a baby outside in the heat with a helmet on?

>

> We're pretty new to this helmet stuff, and it's already getting

> really hot where I live (SC). We're supposed to have a playgroup

> outside tomorrow morning and the high will be 85. I doubt it will

be

> that hot at 10 am, but I don't want to take Chloe outside to this

> thing if she's going to be miserable and sweaty. I also don't want

> to deprive her of all the fun things we could be doing outside

over

> the Spring and Summer. Most important is her safety of course.

>

> What do you all think? She has been wearing the thing for a few

> weeks now and her body temperature has gotten more used to the

extra

> heat, but I don't want her to overheat or anything.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Amy,

> mom to Chloe, 11-month-old with left plagio, right tort and

delayed

> motor skills; also mom to Eli, 3-year-old former right tort baby!

>

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Hi,

My son was banded February-April but we live in AZ so it can be hot

year round! My son also sweated the entire time he had the band so

if we were outside I would just keep him in light clothes, feet

bare, and then periodically wipe away sweat with a dry cloth on both

the band and the head. I think it would be fine to be outside.

> >

> > Hey, everyone! I have a weird question. Does anyone know the

> > guidelines on having a baby outside in the heat with a helmet

on?

> >

> > We're pretty new to this helmet stuff, and it's already getting

> > really hot where I live (SC). We're supposed to have a playgroup

> > outside tomorrow morning and the high will be 85. I doubt it

will

> be

> > that hot at 10 am, but I don't want to take Chloe outside to

this

> > thing if she's going to be miserable and sweaty. I also don't

want

> > to deprive her of all the fun things we could be doing outside

> over

> > the Spring and Summer. Most important is her safety of course.

> >

> > What do you all think? She has been wearing the thing for a few

> > weeks now and her body temperature has gotten more used to the

> extra

> > heat, but I don't want her to overheat or anything.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Amy,

> > mom to Chloe, 11-month-old with left plagio, right tort and

> delayed

> > motor skills; also mom to Eli, 3-year-old former right tort baby!

> >

>

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>

> Bee and fellows,

>

> I have been searching high and low in the files looking for how/when

to

> start adding foods back into this diet but can't seem to find

anything.

> I know that I'm not ready for the big guns, but I'm curious about

> adding in (soaked) beans/rice as well as when to add dairy if at all.

> Also, can we use grape seed oil on this program? I just love it on

my

> salad and would hate to give it up!

==>Hi Sarina. I haven't written anything about adding foods back into

the diet and when. I probably should. You can start adding foods back

in when you're on the completely program (adding probiotics is last)

and you have had no symptoms for 3 months. Then it is best to

gradually add foods to your diet starting with the best ones, i.e.

avocado and veggies not allowed on the diet. Then start on grains like

brown rice, buckwheat, quinoa or millet (properly prepared of course).

Beans are okay too. Dairy should be added cautiously. Some people,

even when healthy, aren't as able to digest it easily. Add the highest

butterfat dairy first.

==>The problem with using seeds to make oils is because they, like any

grains, nuts, etc. must be properly prepared to remove the phytates

that block mineral absorption and the enzymes that interfere with

protein digestion. No commercial grapeseed oils will have gone through

that process first. Also grapeseed oil is high in omega-6 (78%) which

is already prevalent in the diet; most of us are low on omega-3, so it

is important to eliminate such sources, and ensure you take cod liver

oil. Use extra virgin olive oil and coconut oil for salad dressings

instead - see these recipes:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/menu1_7.php

Bee

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I don't know if there is a difference with measles but we know people

who got chicken pox after being vaccinated. They were in contact

with kids who had never been vaccinated for chicken pox.

At 01:52 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:

>I feel like this is the dumbest question, but if anyone can answer it,

>someone on this list can..if someone has not been vaccinated against measles

>and they are infected, can they give it to others who have been

>(effectively) vaccinated?

>

>Kristy

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It is possible. Vaccinations do wear off over time - which is why boosters

are given (i.e a second MMR given 5 years later). The effectiveness of the

vaccination and the rate of decline in antibody detection varies with each

person. Unless the child has had an antibodies blood test then you won't

know how effectively vaccinated someone is. Even then I've heard that it is

possible to be infected

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kristy

Nardini

Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:52 PM

Subject: Dumb Question

I feel like this is the dumbest question, but if anyone can answer it,

someone on this list can..if someone has not been vaccinated against measles

and they are infected, can they give it to others who have been

(effectively) vaccinated?

Kristy

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I can tell you that I had to have 3 MMR's as an adult because every time I had a

baby or lost a baby they would check titters and I had none.  It was not until

my 3rd baby that they came in an announced that I did not need a booster.  Sheri

________________________________

From: Crosss <crosswilsons@...>

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:22:04 PM

Subject: RE: Dumb Question

It is possible. Vaccinations do wear off over time - which is why boosters

are given (i.e a second MMR given 5 years later). The effectiveness of the

vaccination and the rate of decline in antibody detection varies with each

person. Unless the child has had an antibodies blood test then you won't

know how effectively vaccinated someone is. Even then I've heard that it is

possible to be infected

_____

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Kristy

Nardini

Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:52 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Dumb Question

I feel like this is the dumbest question, but if anyone can answer it,

someone on this list can..if someone has not been vaccinated against measles

and they are infected, can they give it to others who have been

(effectively) vaccinated?

Kristy

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Yes they can because it's impossible to know without a blood test if the vax

took. Noah had all his MMRs and he has no antibodies. His doctor wanted to

continue vaccinating, but it seemed rather pointless if the first one the

boosters had no effect. The whole theory behind vaccines is that you're working

with a healthy, intact immune system that can make antibodies.

All the best,

Robyn

> From: Sheri <eszbi5@...>

> Subject: Re: Dumb Question

>

> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 6:07 PM

> I can tell you that I had to have 3 MMR's as an adult

> because every time I had a baby or lost a baby they would

> check titters and I had none.  It was not until my 3rd baby

> that they came in an announced that I did not need a

> booster.  Sheri

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Crosss <crosswilsons@...>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:22:04 PM

> Subject: RE: Dumb Question

>

>

>

>

>

> It is possible. Vaccinations do wear off over time - which

> is why boosters

> are given (i.e a second MMR given 5 years later). The

> effectiveness of the

> vaccination and the rate of decline in antibody detection

> varies with each

> person. Unless the child has had an antibodies blood test

> then you won't

> know how effectively vaccinated someone is. Even then

> I've heard that it is

> possible to be infected

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com]

> On Behalf Of Kristy

> Nardini

> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:52 PM

> groups (DOT) com

> Subject: Dumb Question

>

> I feel like this is the dumbest question, but if anyone can

> answer it,

> someone on this list can..if someone has not been

> vaccinated against measles

> and they are infected, can they give it to others who have

> been

> (effectively) vaccinated?

>

> Kristy

>

>

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