Cheryl

[Guest guest]

I am also a teacher. I teach special needs children in a Multiple Handicap Unit. (Kind-5th grade) I fully understand the stresses of teaching and the paper work. IEP's, meetings, lesson plans, I also have a beauty shop in my home which I work on weekends, I have to teach to keep the insurance. I have to do hair to feed the family. Other than that I end up in bed. There is not much time left for family. If your like me you just push-push-push. I know someday I'll just come to that brick wall and have to stop. My goal in life right now is to get organized. I have clean up 2 corners and much more to go. My sewing room was a mess. Almost done with that. Next the bedroom closet. (Spring Break) I want to enjoy summer and not spend it all indoors cleaning or sleeping. If I push now I'll enjoy more summer.

Debbie in Louisville

[Guest guest]

Can I please ask you if you have any kind of rash with the itching I have been going crazy itching, the doctor just looks at me (dah) and I also have had some pretty bad joint pain in my hips and knees it hurts like heck to bend down to pick something up.

I know how you feel. Take care, (mhe3053904@...)

[Guest guest]

Cheryl, that is really really wonderful.

Rosemary

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

We live in Green Bank, WV......way up in the mountains. Randy is a Level 1 Engineer at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory which is home to the world's largest steerable radio telescope. A real dream job for him.. his father brought him here for a visit when he was 5 years old and he has always wanted to work here... Imagine that the opportunity only became a reality after the transplant when he finally had his health and mental facilities back intack. You can look up the NRAO at the following website and then click on the Green Bank site.....www.nrao.edu. That beast of a telescope (the dish is 2.3 acres big) is lined up with the end of our driveway about 2 miles away. I can look out my dining room window and see all the fun stuff going on.

Have a good one and where in Houston do you live? We used to live off I-75 at W. Mt. Houston Road near Aldine. My parents used to live in Pasadena. Last time I was there, so much had changed. But I did enjoy going to Galveston and eating on the Seawall and watching the ships. But I think I have fallen in LOVE with the mountains and couldn't be happy in a flat area again....

See Ya!!

Cheryl & Randy

[Guest guest]

Don't get down to that part of the loop often, so not sure what the

state of it is. My guess would be perpetual construction! :-) There

are so many messes around town and they seem to take an absurd amount

of time to finish. However, trying to get the Olympics here has set

a bit of a fire under them and those who live here will benefit

either way!

Baton Rouge, huh? I have much extended family there. My parents

grew up in Port , and I still have a grandparent and many

aunts/uncles/cousins in the area! Yummy food there! My dad is an

excellent gumbo chef!

Seeing Texas is a good idea...I love Austin! Texas is so huge,

though...always takes lots of time! I will likely be around in July,

and would love to meet you if you have the time...just let me know as

the time nears! I am sure you said this already, but I can't

recall...where do you live now?

Bye for now,

> Dear ,

>

> By chance, have they EVER completed the loop exchange at

Gulfgate? I think

> that project has gone on forever and ever. I read that many years

ago a

> flood really harmed the mall there but I think that interchange is

always in

> perpetual construction.....LOL.

>

> As it gets closer I will let you know when we think we will be in

Houston.

> My class reunion is the weekend of July 4th so I don't know if we

are coming

> in before that weekend or we are coming after. Still trying to

finalize

> everyone's schedule..... My reunion is in Baton Rouge but I have

tons of

> friends in Houston and Dallas I want to see. Also, I don't think

Randy has

> ever been to San or Austin and we want to venture there

also....

> Might be able to hook up and see KayK while in Austin. Randy has a

school

> buddy who lives there also.

>

> Keep smiling...

>

> Cheryl & Randy

> .

[Guest guest]

Fantastically interesting job! Can't wait to show my husband, Mike.

He is a geophysicist and will have a real appreciation for it! We

both have hubble telescope photos up as screen savers and wallpapers

on our computers! Already checked out the web page, very cool. A

dream job, indeed!

Sounds like we are paid from the same employer, in a way. My current

research is funded by the NSF.

We live way out on the west side of town...Westheimer and Kirkwood.

I do know what you mean by flat, though. I love the mountains as

well...someday we hope to live somewhere a bit more interesting,

topographically speaking! We are basically comfortable here, for

now, and Mike's profession (oil exploration) is likely to keep us

here for a long time!

Go to Galveston on occasion. Went deep sea fishing last year for the

first time...I became horribly motion sick! After that went away, it

was actually quite fun.

So nice to hear that Randy was able to get back on track after

transplant. Many people NEVER get their dream jobs...so he is twice

fortunate! Transplant sounded so scary to me a short while ago, but

the people in this group have made me see it a bit differently!

Maybe I will never need one, but it is nice to know that people

manage with it...and quite well!

More later,

> Dear ,

>

> We live in Green Bank, WV......way up in the mountains. Randy is a

Level 1

> Engineer at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory which is home

to the

> world's largest steerable radio telescope. A real dream job for

him.. his

> father brought him here for a visit when he was 5 years old and he

has always

> wanted to work here... Imagine that the opportunity only became a

reality

> after the transplant when he finally had his health and mental

facilities

> back intack. You can look up the NRAO at the following website and

then

> click on the Green Bank site.....www.nrao.edu. That beast of a

telescope

> (the dish is 2.3 acres big) is lined up with the end of our

driveway about 2

> miles away. I can look out my dining room window and see all the

fun stuff

> going on.

>

> Have a good one and where in Houston do you live? We used to live

off I-75

> at W. Mt. Houston Road near Aldine. My parents used to live in

Pasadena.

> Last time I was there, so much had changed. But I did enjoy going

to

> Galveston and eating on the Seawall and watching the ships. But I

think I

> have fallen in LOVE with the mountains and couldn't be happy in a

flat area

> again....

>

> See Ya!!

>

> Cheryl & Randy

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

Thanks for the long note. You are right. I do need

to put myself first. I have always had a difficult time doing that.

I like your idea about the erasable note board. I'll have to think

long and hard about where to put one. I have forgotten appointments

and other things that were all written on my calendar, just because I forgot

to look at my calendar! LOL! My husband just shakes his head when

I do that. He has started calling me to remind me when he knows I really

need to do something. Unfortunately, he doesn't always know what

I have going on and he is really too busy to always think about

my appointments. I had wanted a Palm Pilot for Christmas. Didn't

get one. Maybe I'll push for one for Mother's Day! Along with

a new computer! Supposedly that is why I did not get one for Christmas.

My laptop is nearly 3 years old and my husband said it would not be compatible

with any of the Pilots. So I guess I'll just solve both problems!

Glad to know that Randy is doing so well now. Take care.

Carol

cheryl722@... wrote:

Dear

Carol,

Goodness.... we are so glad

you and your family are ok. It sounds like you have your plate overflowing

right now.... I can hardly imagine trying to manage all the things

going on in your life right now being in perfect health.... give me a headached

just thinking about it.

Family members can be a real

pain in the butt at times and when you have this disease it doesnt help

any. I think if they could just be in your shoes for a day

they would be rushing to your door to offer help... not cause

grief and suffering. But most family members do not recognize the

seriousness of the illness... so often the person suffers needlessly.

The best thing you can do for yourself is to put yourself FIRST and then

if there is anything left over share with the rest. Dont feel

guilty about it either. Randy has a tough time in the beginning

to do that... he had always been the one who was doing for others and it

was foreign to him to be on the other end of the stick. But eventually

he realized that his "job" was to do everything within his power to take

care of himself.... everything else would take care of itself. Not

an easy task for someone who is used to doing everything for himself.

As far as multi-tasking....

i think the loss of this ability happens with this disease but the good

news is it returns!!!! Randy thought through all the sickness that

yes, a transplant would help him physically but what about his mental capacity?

He is an electrical savant, well respected within his industry.

He had designed many cutting edge technological applications and at his

worse the boy didnt even know what shoe laces were.... or what to do with

them. He spent 3 days trying to figure out how to hang a miniblind

which required only that 3 screws be put into the wall. I think he

was more scared of losing his mental capabilities than the physical aspect.

Well, now he is working at

about 150% capacity than he was when he was at his peak. He says

his mind is much, much sharper and he is back into full swing. We

used an erasable board on the front of the refridgerator to help him...

we had a check list on it that he would check before leaving.... and checking

the stove was one of them. Just making little adjustments such as

this helped him....

We are thinking of you!!!

Cheryl & Randy

[Guest guest]

Carol, I use a handsprig visor, it's not a complicared unit like some are. Works for me. I use it mostly for lists, calendar, and addresses/phone.

Patty

-----Original Message-----From: Philip Cobb [mailto:pcmcobb@...]Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [ ] RE:Cheryl Cheryl, Thanks for the long note. You are right. I do need to put myself first. I have always had a difficult time doing that. I like your idea about the erasable note board. I'll have to think long and hard about where to put one. I have forgotten appointments and other things that were all written on my calendar, just because I forgot to look at my calendar! LOL! My husband just shakes his head when I do that. He has started calling me to remind me when he knows I really need to do something. Unfortunately, he doesn't always know what I have going on and he is really too busy to always think about my appointments. I had wanted a Palm Pilot for Christmas. Didn't get one. Maybe I'll push for one for Mother's Day! Along with a new computer! Supposedly that is why I did not get one for Christmas. My laptop is nearly 3 years old and my husband said it would not be compatible with any of the Pilots. So I guess I'll just solve both problems! Glad to know that Randy is doing so well now. Take care. Carol cheryl722@... wrote: Dear Carol, Goodness.... we are so glad you and your family are ok. It sounds like you have your plate overflowing right now.... I can hardly imagine trying to manage all the things going on in your life right now being in perfect health.... give me a headached just thinking about it. Family members can be a real pain in the butt at times and when you have this disease it doesnt help any. I think if they could just be in your shoes for a day they would be rushing to your door to offer help... not cause grief and suffering. But most family members do not recognize the seriousness of the illness... so often the person suffers needlessly. The best thing you can do for yourself is to put yourself FIRST and then if there is anything left over share with the rest. Dont feel guilty about it either. Randy has a tough time in the beginning to do that... he had always been the one who was doing for others and it was foreign to him to be on the other end of the stick. But eventually he realized that his "job" was to do everything within his power to take care of himself.... everything else would take care of itself. Not an easy task for someone who is used to doing everything for himself. As far as multi-tasking.... i think the loss of this ability happens with this disease but the good news is it returns!!!! Randy thought through all the sickness that yes, a transplant would help him physically but what about his mental capacity? He is an electrical savant, well respected within his industry. He had designed many cutting edge technological applications and at his worse the boy didnt even know what shoe laces were.... or what to do with them. He spent 3 days trying to figure out how to hang a miniblind which required only that 3 screws be put into the wall. I think he was more scared of losing his mental capabilities than the physical aspect. Well, now he is working at about 150% capacity than he was when he was at his peak. He says his mind is much, much sharper and he is back into full swing. We used an erasable board on the front of the refridgerator to help him... we had a check list on it that he would check before leaving.... and checking the stove was one of them. Just making little adjustments such as this helped him.... We are thinking of you!!! Cheryl & Randy

[Guest guest]

hi caroline jjust a quick note before I go to work, I am in Mount Gambier only about 4hours from ballarat so one day who knows we might be able to meet. cheryl

[ ] Re: Cheryl

Hi Cheryl Hey I am not in Australia but am alsodownunder -- just across the ditch in NZ(Invercargill). I'm visiting Ballarat at the end ofMay for about 3 weeks --- my ex in-laws ---. Yourmedication regime sounds similar to mine at thebeginning ---- although I have had this for severalyears my treatment only began in May 2000. Currentlyam on 50mg Azathioprine (Imran in USA) and Prednisone15mg. Was off Prednisone for quite a while ( I HATEit) but in January developed some sores on my legs andso had to start up again at 30mg. This is a great group to belong to and I have learntlots. Initially I was appalled at how sick everyoneseems to be but then I think it puts my problems intoperspective. Maybe we'll meet up some time!!! There are a coupleof others in NZ that I know off (probably more who arestill in the woodwork somewhere.Love Caroline--- cheryl john <cheryljohn@...> wrote:> hi everyone I am new to the group. I have had AIH> for two years now although the official diagnosise> took twelve months to get. from reading some of your> mail I think I must be one of the lucky ones or I> have as lot more to come.> > I am on 100mg of azathioprine a day and I am down> to 5mg of prednisolene every second day for the next> six weeks. then I have to stop the prendisolone and> see how I go.> > It seems that this disease affects your thyroid I> have had a little bit of trouble withit being> underactive, can any one give me some info as to> what I am in for.> > My husband keeps asking me if this disease ever goes> away for good, can any one answer that one.> > cheryl.> > ps is anyone out there in Australia like me by any> chance.> __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl Hey I am not in Australia but am also

downunder -- just across the ditch in NZ

(Invercargill). I'm visiting Ballarat at the end of

May for about 3 weeks --- my ex in-laws ---. Your

medication regime sounds similar to mine at the

beginning ---- although I have had this for several

years my treatment only began in May 2000. Currently

am on 50mg Azathioprine (Imran in USA) and Prednisone

15mg. Was off Prednisone for quite a while ( I HATE

it) but in January developed some sores on my legs and

so had to start up again at 30mg.

This is a great group to belong to and I have learnt

lots. Initially I was appalled at how sick everyone

seems to be but then I think it puts my problems into

perspective.

Maybe we'll meet up some time!!! There are a couple

of others in NZ that I know off (probably more who are

still in the woodwork somewhere.

Love Caroline

--- cheryl john <cheryljohn@...> wrote:

> hi everyone I am new to the group. I have had AIH

> for two years now although the official diagnosise

> took twelve months to get. from reading some of your

> mail I think I must be one of the lucky ones or I

> have as lot more to come.

>

> I am on 100mg of azathioprine a day and I am down

> to 5mg of prednisolene every second day for the next

> six weeks. then I have to stop the prendisolone and

> see how I go.

>

> It seems that this disease affects your thyroid I

> have had a little bit of trouble withit being

> underactive, can any one give me some info as to

> what I am in for.

>

> My husband keeps asking me if this disease ever goes

> away for good, can any one answer that one.

>

> cheryl.

>

> ps is anyone out there in Australia like me by any

> chance.

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

We here in Oregon have a program called Earlt Intervention for children with

disabilities. My daughter MiKayla has Dispraxia and has been to OHSU(OREGON

HEALTH SCIENCES UNIVERSITY) has been there manys times for OT. MiKayla has come

a long way since I met her a year ago. My own daughter came to live with us and

gave MiKayla the desire and stregth to ride a bike that she should no prior

interest in before. MiKayla is no longer running like a new born horse anylonger

either. This year she is starting kindergarten and is very excited about going

to a big girl school this year. So all of you out there that can't see the end

of the tunnel there is hope just give your child time and support.

j95daddy

----Another thing that was mentioned was contacting the public schools to

get him in now for pre-school. Our area doesn't have FREE pre school.

There are towns around us that do. Would he be able to go Out Of

District?

Your school does have " Free " preschool whether or not they provide a class in

district or they have a contract with another district. It is the law! If your

child is found eligible for a preschool disabled class...by all means YOUR

district must provide it! You may not be aware of it but your district may very

well have one of these classes in district already! Most districts would like

to keep " their kids " within their own district. I work with the preschool

disabled population in a public school so if you have any questions regarding

what to expect..please feel free to ask!

----I'm sorry but I am new to this and appreciate the help. My lil guy

needs it. Tired of seeing him throw tantrums cause we don't

understand him.

Don't be sorry! You are a wonderful mom for recognizing your son needs help and

trying to get it!I am not sure if you have already contacted your school

district yet...but make sure you tell them he is not COMMUNICATING!! If you say

things like " he doesn't speak very well " or " his sounds aren't clear " they

automatically think it is an articulation problem....and that is not always the

case. Just " artic " does not deem a child eligible...the child must have a

receptive and/or expressive LANGUAGE disorder.

[Guest guest]

My son see's dr. schonwald at children's for his developmental pedi

[Guest guest]

Dear Cheryl,

I don't think it's whining when it takes you two hours to get out of bed because of pain! If you can't complain to us, who? But I do think you need to talk specifically and clearly to your dr about what is happening. Your joint pain may be caused by something else - it's hard to live in pain, so it's not whining when you are trying to get relief from pain. I don't feel like I'm whining when I complain about my fatigue and it doesn't hurt!

I hope they get you moving a little faster and better soon.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

I was really only kidding. I do have to have a secret clearance for my job, but in my 11+ years of working for the Army, I have dealt with classified info only twice - thank goodness - cause it's a pain in the butt! Someone has to deal with all the classified stuff and even the top secret stuff. I'm just glad it's not me!

W

Re: [ ] Digest Number 2817

In a message dated 2/11/03 7:11:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes:

If you are at an unamed Army base at an unamed location, do you know thewhereabouts of Dick Cheney or is that a secret to you too.?If she told you that she'd have to kill you!My husband worked on the Stealth Fighter when it was a black project. I couldn't even know where he went to work. I took him to the Las Vegas Airport on Monday and picked him up on Thursday. I was not allowed to ask where he was or what he was doing. He used to joke that he could tell me but he'd have to kill me once I knew.Chelyr

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I did email her and she told me to have my FREE T3 and T4 checked. I was just hoping the hair would stop falling out now that they are out of my system. That is the only symptom I had so I thought it might go away with explant. Like I told Rogene...Wishful thinking! Just don't want to be on any medication.

Marie

Marie

Marie, You can still email or call Dr. Kolb and aak her questions even though she's not your surgeon. I've heard from others, she's willing to help women even if they aren't her paient.Good luck, Marie!CherylOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Like Rogene said, the medication might be

temporary… like I hope mine will be. I’d love to amaze my docs by

going off the stuff.

Dawn

Re:

Cheryl

Thanks. I did email her and

she told me to have my FREE T3 and T4 checked. I was just hoping the hair

would stop falling out now that they are out of my system. That is the

only symptom I had so I thought it might go away with explant. Like I

told Rogene...Wishful thinking! Just don't want to be on any medication.

Marie

Marie

Marie, You can still email or call Dr. Kolb and

aak her questions

even though she's not your surgeon. I've heard

from others, she's

willing to help women even if they aren't her

paient.

Good luck, Marie!

Cheryl

Opinions

expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health

care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional

before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or

the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better

world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;

1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

This one is for you.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Ethan Stan Kurtz son treated by Dr Goldberg.

Stan claims of his recovery but leaves it unclear as to the use of nasal MB12

his discovery. He ticked me off with his attitude regarding Dr G, even though my

son is not his patient I believe in .

I commend you in trying to help others by giving them the source of antivirals

and antifungal protocol.

rgds Kavita

No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and autism

Some conversation on another list prompted some more searching on the

connection between flu and autism and this was found. Just wanted to

pass it along to those that might be interested.

Cheryl

>

>

> Acta Psychiatr Scand. 1995 Aug;92(2):145- 9.

>

> No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and autism.

>

> Dassa D, Takei N, Sham PC, Murray RM.

> Department of Psychological Medicine, King's College Hospital, London,

> United Kingdom.

>

> We examined the relationship between the number of autistic patients,

> obtained from the register of the National Autism Society (NAS), born

> each month between January 1953 and December 1988 in England, and the

> occurrence of influenza epidemics one to nine months before birth. The

> relative risk of developing autism, for exposure to influenza during

> gestation, was assessed by a Poisson regression model. Our results

> indicate that exposure to influenza epidemics during gestation is not

> associated with autism.

>

> Publication Types:

> * Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't

> PMID: 7572261

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

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[Guest guest]

Stan Kurtz' son was a patient of Dr. G's. Stan insulted me personally, and

booted me off his list when I 'called' him on it!

However, his son is recovered using MeB12 nasal spray and he has become a

spokesperson for recovery.

Kristy

Re: Cheryl

Cheryl,

This one is for you.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Ethan Stan Kurtz son treated by Dr

Goldberg. Stan claims of his recovery but leaves it unclear as to the use of

nasal MB12 his discovery. He ticked me off with his attitude regarding Dr G,

even though my son is not his patient I believe in .

I commend you in trying to help others by giving them the source of

antivirals and antifungal protocol.

rgds Kavita

No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and

autism

Some conversation on another list prompted some more searching on the

connection between flu and autism and this was found. Just wanted to

pass it along to those that might be interested.

Cheryl

>

>

> Acta Psychiatr Scand. 1995 Aug;92(2):145- 9.

>

> No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and autism.

>

> Dassa D, Takei N, Sham PC, Murray RM.

> Department of Psychological Medicine, King's College Hospital, London,

> United Kingdom.

>

> We examined the relationship between the number of autistic patients,

> obtained from the register of the National Autism Society (NAS), born

> each month between January 1953 and December 1988 in England, and the

> occurrence of influenza epidemics one to nine months before birth. The

> relative risk of developing autism, for exposure to influenza during

> gestation, was assessed by a Poisson regression model. Our results

> indicate that exposure to influenza epidemics during gestation is not

> associated with autism.

>

> Publication Types:

> * Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't

> PMID: 7572261

__________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Kristy, I don't believe Stan Kurtz son was on his nasal spray, he was cured by

the antiviral, antifungal protocol. He did the MB12 shots on himself found it

helped his adhd and then found a way to make a nasal spray for easier

adminstration.

In all fairness I do have to thank him for Ethan's video that helped some of us

look into the protocol.

rgds Kavita

No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and

autism

Some conversation on another list prompted some more searching on the

connection between flu and autism and this was found. Just wanted to

pass it along to those that might be interested.

Cheryl

>

>

> Acta Psychiatr Scand. 1995 Aug;92(2):145- 9.

>

> No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and autism.

>

> Dassa D, Takei N, Sham PC, Murray RM.

> Department of Psychological Medicine, King's College Hospital, London,

> United Kingdom.

>

> We examined the relationship between the number of autistic patients,

> obtained from the register of the National Autism Society (NAS), born

> each month between January 1953 and December 1988 in England, and the

> occurrence of influenza epidemics one to nine months before birth. The

> relative risk of developing autism, for exposure to influenza during

> gestation, was assessed by a Poisson regression model. Our results

> indicate that exposure to influenza epidemics during gestation is not

> associated with autism.

>

> Publication Types:

> * Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't

> PMID: 7572261

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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[Guest guest]

When I was on Stan's list, he made it sound as though it was the nasal

spray and diet that recovered his son, and that is, I believe, what he tells

the groups he speaks to.

Kristy

Re: Cheryl

Kristy, I don't believe Stan Kurtz son was on his nasal spray, he was

cured by the antiviral, antifungal protocol. He did the MB12 shots on

himself found it helped his adhd and then found a way to make a nasal spray

for easier adminstration.

In all fairness I do have to thank him for Ethan's video that helped some

of us look into the protocol.

rgds Kavita

No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and

autism

Some conversation on another list prompted some more searching on the

connection between flu and autism and this was found. Just wanted to

pass it along to those that might be interested.

Cheryl

>

>

> Acta Psychiatr Scand. 1995 Aug;92(2):145- 9.

>

> No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and autism.

>

> Dassa D, Takei N, Sham PC, Murray RM.

> Department of Psychological Medicine, King's College Hospital, London,

> United Kingdom.

>

> We examined the relationship between the number of autistic patients,

> obtained from the register of the National Autism Society (NAS), born

> each month between January 1953 and December 1988 in England, and the

> occurrence of influenza epidemics one to nine months before birth. The

> relative risk of developing autism, for exposure to influenza during

> gestation, was assessed by a Poisson regression model. Our results

> indicate that exposure to influenza epidemics during gestation is not

> associated with autism.

>

> Publication Types:

> * Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't

> PMID: 7572261

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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for today's economy) at Games.

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[Guest guest]

This is too funny! I thought he recovered Ethan through antivirals

and used mb12 on himself. I have always been unclear on if he used

mb12 on Ethan. I wonder if *anyone* really knows?

I have a lot of respect for Stan but no, I definitely don't always

agree with him. I do applaud what he's done with his school and I

think that if I lived near it I would try to send my kids there. You

know, Kavita, I knew it would end up there eventually and I'm shocked

it didn't happen sooner. Very few people in the DAN! world are

capable of having an open and honest discussion of in my

experience. It never fails to end in bashing and I usually try to

simply avoid it altogether. The only reason I got into it on the

list was because there were a lot of people asking me what is

and wanting to know more about it. On well established boards like

his, this generally doesn't happen too much and I'm more than fine

with telling people I'm not on the DAN! protocol but rather on

and it's usually just left at that and the one or two people that

might ask about it, I just give them the websites to read it for

themselves. I really should have taken it off list once I got all

those questions but I got lazy and didn't want to put in the effort

of finding every persons personal e-mail and such.

Always remember, it's just e-mail. I usually don't get too ruffled

unless it's *extremely* offensive to me - and it takes a lot to

extremely offend me (over e-mail at least ). I usually just

check out of the conversation once it heads south.

cheryl

On Jul 16, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Kristy Nardini wrote:

> When I was on Stan's list, he made it sound as though it was

> the nasal

> spray and diet that recovered his son, and that is, I believe, what

> he tells

> the groups he speaks to.

>

> Kristy

>

> Re: Cheryl

>

> Kristy, I don't believe Stan Kurtz son was on his nasal spray, he was

> cured by the antiviral, antifungal protocol. He did the MB12 shots on

> himself found it helped his adhd and then found a way to make a

> nasal spray

> for easier adminstration.

> In all fairness I do have to thank him for Ethan's video that

> helped some

> of us look into the protocol.

> rgds Kavita

>

> No association between prenatal exposure to

> influenza and

> autism

>

> Some conversation on another list prompted some more searching on the

> connection between flu and autism and this was found. Just wanted to

> pass it along to those that might be interested.

>

> Cheryl

>

> >

> >

> > Acta Psychiatr Scand. 1995 Aug;92(2):145- 9.

> >

> > No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and autism.

> >

> > Dassa D, Takei N, Sham PC, Murray RM.

> > Department of Psychological Medicine, King's College Hospital,

> London,

> > United Kingdom.

> >

> > We examined the relationship between the number of autistic

> patients,

> > obtained from the register of the National Autism Society (NAS),

> born

> > each month between January 1953 and December 1988 in England, and

> the

> > occurrence of influenza epidemics one to nine months before

> birth. The

> > relative risk of developing autism, for exposure to influenza during

> > gestation, was assessed by a Poisson regression model. Our results

> > indicate that exposure to influenza epidemics during gestation is

> not

> > associated with autism.

> >

> > Publication Types:

> > * Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't

> > PMID: 7572261

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention, thanks for your kind words.

cheryl

On Jul 16, 2007, at 1:52 PM, kavita mallik wrote:

> Cheryl,

> This one is for you.

> Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Ethan Stan Kurtz son treated by

> Dr Goldberg. Stan claims of his recovery but leaves it unclear as

> to the use of nasal MB12 his discovery. He ticked me off with his

> attitude regarding Dr G, even though my son is not his patient I

> believe in .

> I commend you in trying to help others by giving them the source of

> antivirals and antifungal protocol.

> rgds Kavita

>

> No association between prenatal exposure to

> influenza and autism

>

> Some conversation on another list prompted some more searching on the

> connection between flu and autism and this was found. Just wanted to

> pass it along to those that might be interested.

>

> Cheryl

>

> >

> >

> > Acta Psychiatr Scand. 1995 Aug;92(2):145- 9.

> >

> > No association between prenatal exposure to influenza and autism.

> >

> > Dassa D, Takei N, Sham PC, Murray RM.

> > Department of Psychological Medicine, King's College Hospital,

> London,

> > United Kingdom.

> >

> > We examined the relationship between the number of autistic

> patients,

> > obtained from the register of the National Autism Society (NAS),

> born

> > each month between January 1953 and December 1988 in England, and

> the

> > occurrence of influenza epidemics one to nine months before

> birth. The

> > relative risk of developing autism, for exposure to influenza during

> > gestation, was assessed by a Poisson regression model. Our results

> > indicate that exposure to influenza epidemics during gestation is

> not

> > associated with autism.

> >

> > Publication Types:

> > * Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't

> > PMID: 7572261

>

> __________________________________________________________

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> updated for today's economy) at Games.

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

I don't understand how you can have had such a significant reduction if you are

in blast phase????

Regards,

Donna

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I'm not sure either, but the Drs. say that I respond very well to the Gleevec -

mind you I do take 800 mg/day - I was diagnosed in blast phase last November,

but with the help of the " miracle pill " I have been able to get myself to a 3.39

log reduction in just 5 short months...I feel very blessed that I don't

experience many side-effects on this dosage and lead a somewhat normal life...I

am very vigilant about taking my medication and eating right and exercising - I

have lost almost 40 pounds so far...I am just hoping that the Gleevec continues

to work until they can find a donor...transplant they tell me is still the best

option as statistically 80% of the people in blast crisis will fail on Gleevec

after a year...

Cheryl

>

> Hi Cheryl,

> I don't understand how you can have had such a significant reduction if you

are in blast phase????

> Regards,

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi Cheryl,

> > I don't understand how you can have had such a significant reduction if you

are in blast phase????

> > Regards,

> > Donna

__________________________________

Hi Donna and Cheryl,

It is very common/usual for someone in blast crisis to be brought back to chonic

stage with medication but this is referred to a second chronic phase and is not

the same as the initial chronic stage and is not as stable. Usually this is done

to prepare someone for a transplant.

Cheryl.....GREAT job with the weight loss and getting into 'fighting' shape for

the transplant. You are inspiring me to push ahead with a walking program and to

refine my eating even more.

C.