Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 > Help!! I am suffering from thyroid eye disease. My doctor tells me it is = > moderate. I am so self conscious about my eyes. They are puffy. Is ther= > e anything that can be done? They are dry at times and I use OTC eye drops= > .. Until recently, they were tearing quite a bit. If the puffiness would g= > o down, I could live with this. > > Please help me if you can. I appreciate your time. > Search the list archives for bee pollen as there have been some discussions about this in the past couple of months. After you've read those posts, feel free to contact me for more information as I take bee pollen for my eyes. It would be easier for you to peruse and read than to try to reconstruct everything that was said. . . If you're using OTC drops and gels, ask your opthalmologist to write a prescription for those OTCs. The drops I used were very expensive and I saved hundreds of dollars by having a script; I was using a $15. box every two days, so having the cost covered by insurance was important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Hi, My eyes are also very puffy and have been that way since before I was diagnosed with Graves about two years ago. I hate the puffiness and am very bothered about it. I am told by my Endo that I am in a remission now because my levels have been on the high side of "normal" for two months now. I am thinking of consulting with a cosmetic surgeon to see if anything can be done about the eye puffiness. Please let me know if you hear of anything that helps as well. I would appreciate it. Thanks, Carolann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 It does help to elevate your head while sleeping. I tended to only use a very soft pillow but now prop my head and shoulders deliberately on a higher filled pillow. Good luck. Elaine Researching Bohemian SurnamesS L E P I C K A and H R U S K A Puffy eyes Help!! I am suffering from thyroid eye disease. My doctor tells me it is moderate. I am so self conscious about my eyes. They are puffy. Is there anything that can be done? They are dry at times and I use OTC eye drops. Until recently, they were tearing quite a bit. If the puffiness would go down, I could live with this. Please help me if you can. I appreciate your time. Keller Send our cash to your group!Get $20 from X.com, then send money like email to your friends. eGroups.com Home: hyperthyroidismwww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 - My eyes don't necessarily get puffy, but they do get red and sore. The eyedrops I use are Murine Tears lubricant eye drops. I have read that you shouldn't use the kind that " gets the red out " , or they will further irritate your eyes. My case has been pretty mild so far. temk wrote: > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 , That is a good idea! If I start to go through the drops like that, I will certainly ask for a prescription for them. As for bee pollen, I haven't tried that yet, but will soon-it just happened to "slip my mind". Petrie wrote: > Help!! I am suffering from thyroid eye disease. My doctor tells me it is = > moderate. I am so self conscious about my eyes. They are puffy. Is ther= > e anything that can be done? They are dry at times and I use OTC eye drops= > .. Until recently, they were tearing quite a bit. If the puffiness would g= > o down, I could live with this. > > Please help me if you can. I appreciate your time. > Search the list archives for bee pollen as there have been some discussions about this in the past couple of months. After you've read those posts, feel free to contact me for more information as I take bee pollen for my eyes. It would be easier for you to peruse and read than to try to reconstruct everything that was said. . . If you're using OTC drops and gels, ask your opthalmologist to write a prescription for those OTCs. The drops I used were very expensive and I saved hundreds of dollars by having a script; I was using a $15. box every two days, so having the cost covered by insurance was important. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ For the fastest and easiest way to backup your files and, access them from anywhere. Try @backup Free for 30 days. Click here for a chance to win a digital camera. 1/337/5/_/6563/_/948214376/ -- Check out your group's private Chat room -- ChatPage?listName=hyperthyroidism & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 In a message dated 1/18/2000 12:01:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, carolann@... writes: << My eyes are also very puffy and have been that way since before I was diagnosed with Graves about two years ago. I hate the puffiness and am very bothered about it. I am told by my Endo that I am in a remission now because my levels have been on the high side of " normal " for two months now. I am thinking of consulting with a cosmetic surgeon to see if anything can be done about the eye puffiness >> My eyes were mild to moderately bulging outward for about a year. It started after I went on anti thyroid medication. It was noticeable. I wished I could just hide. It took about 6 months after I had stopped medication and had my first " normal " blood work for my eyes to go down. My left eye went back to normal much faster than the right eye. I still have other after effects. Graves disease aged me so fast. Around my chin and mouth looks shrunken or something. It looks like permanent damage to me. I have some hope that the flesh will fill out. Maybe it is, but very slowly. My advice is to not do anything too soon. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 If the TSH is back to normal, I suspect the eyes will clear up. My muscles were stiff when i reached normal 11/99. They are slowly becoming loose enough that I can daydream (eyelids and eyes move) without noticing it. Indeed, they are alittle watery looking and sometimes tear. But not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 My tsh was 0.016 on my last visit about 2 wks ago. I have notice improvement. Not 100% but any improvement is a blessing. My eyes are not so stiff. If only the puffiness would go down I would be grateful. Re: Puffy eyes >If the TSH is back to normal, I suspect the eyes will clear up. My muscles >were stiff when i reached normal 11/99. They are slowly becoming loose >enough that I can daydream (eyelids and eyes move) without noticing it. >Indeed, they are alittle watery looking and sometimes tear. But not bad. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >For the fastest and easiest way to backup your files and, access them from >anywhere. Try @backup Free for 30 days. Click here for a chance to win a >digital camera. >1/337/5/_/6563/_/948253801/ > >-- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault >-- docvault/hyperthyroidism/?m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 I have been to two specialists about eyes. One was knife happy and the other more reserve. You can have cosmetic surgery but I hear you need to wait at least two years after the onset of eye disease. I won't have surgery unless it is horrible. I hate the puffiness. I wonder at times why me?? Do you ever?? Re: Puffy eyes Hi, My eyes are also very puffy and have been that way since before I was diagnosed with Graves about two years ago. I hate the puffiness and am very bothered about it. I am told by my Endo that I am in a remission now because my levels have been on the high side of " normal " for two months now. I am thinking of consulting with a cosmetic surgeon to see if anything can be done about the eye puffiness. Please let me know if you hear of anything that helps as well. I would appreciate it. Thanks, Carolann eGroups.com Home: hyperthyroidismwww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 Thanks--there may be hope for my eyes too. I will remain positive. I agree that this ages you. Thanks Re: Puffy eyes >In a message dated 1/18/2000 12:01:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, >carolann@... writes: > ><< My eyes are also very puffy and have been that way since before I was > diagnosed with Graves about two years ago. I hate the puffiness and am very > bothered about it. I am told by my Endo that I am in a remission now because > my levels have been on the high side of " normal " for two months now. I am > thinking of consulting with a cosmetic surgeon to see if anything can be > done about the eye puffiness >> > >My eyes were mild to moderately bulging outward for about a year. >It started after I went on anti thyroid medication. >It was noticeable. >I wished I could just hide. > >It took about 6 months >after I had stopped medication >and had my first " normal " blood work >for my eyes to go down. > >My left eye went back to normal much faster >than the right eye. > >I still have other after effects. Graves disease aged me so fast. Around my >chin and mouth looks shrunken or something. > >It looks like permanent damage to me. >I have some hope that the flesh will fill out. Maybe it is, but very slowly. > >My advice is to not do anything too soon. > >Ann > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >For the fastest and easiest way to backup your files and, access them from >anywhere. Try @backup Free for 30 days. Click here for a chance to win a >digital camera. >1/337/5/_/6563/_/948264590/ > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- cal?listname=hyperthyroidism & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Good idea about the presc. The doctor should have really offered to write a prec. as he must know I will be using drops for a long time. I will read posts about bee pollen. Have you noticed any improvement with bee pollen??? Re: Puffy eyes > >> Help!! I am suffering from thyroid eye disease. My doctor tells me it is = >> moderate. I am so self conscious about my eyes. They are puffy. Is ther= >> e anything that can be done? They are dry at times and I use OTC eye drops= >> .. Until recently, they were tearing quite a bit. If the puffiness would g= >> o down, I could live with this. >> >> Please help me if you can. I appreciate your time. >> > >Search the list archives for bee pollen as there have been some discussions >about this in the past couple of months. After you've read those posts, feel >free to contact me for more information as I take bee pollen for my eyes. It >would be easier for you to peruse and read than to try to reconstruct everything >that was said. . . > >If you're using OTC drops and gels, ask your opthalmologist to write a >prescription for those OTCs. The drops I used were very expensive and I saved >hundreds of dollars by having a script; I was using a $15. box every two days, >so having the cost covered by insurance was important. > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >For the fastest and easiest way to backup your files and, access them from >anywhere. Try @backup Free for 30 days. Click here for a chance to win a >digital camera. >1/337/5/_/6563/_/948214376/ > >-- Check out your group's private Chat room >-- ChatPage?listName=hyperthyroidism & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Please let me know about the bee pollen. I am open to anything except surgery.(ha) Stay in touch, Re: Puffy eyes, That is a good idea! If I start to go through the drops like that, I will certainly ask for a prescription for them. As for bee pollen, I haven't tried that yet, but will soon-it just happened to " slip my mind " . Petrie wrote: > Help!! I am suffering from thyroid eye disease. My doctor tells me it is = > moderate. I am so self conscious about my eyes. They are puffy. Is ther= > e anything that can be done? They are dry at times and I use OTC eye drops= > .. Until recently, they were tearing quite a bit. If the puffiness would g= > o down, I could live with this. > > Please help me if you can. I appreciate your time. > Search the list archives for bee pollen as there have been some discussions about this in the past couple of months. After you've read those posts, feel free to contact me for more information as I take bee pollen for my eyes. It would be easier for you to peruse and read than to try to reconstruct everything that was said. . . If you're using OTC drops and gels, ask your opthalmologist to write a prescription for those OTCs. The drops I used were very expensive and I saved hundreds of dollars by having a script; I was using a $15. box every two days, so having the cost covered by insurance was important. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ For the fastest and easiest way to backup your files and, access them from anywhere. Try @backup Free for 30 days. Click here for a chance to win a digital camera. 1/337/5/_/6563/_/948214376/ -- Check out your group's private Chat room -- ChatPage?listName=hyperthyroidism & m=1 eGroups.com Home: hyperthyroidismwww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 I found the drops Celluvisc very good. They are extra thick drops and provide good lubrication. It is best to use at night as they cause blurry vision temporarily. I wish the puffy eyes would go away. Re: Puffy eyes >- > >My eyes don't necessarily get puffy, but they do get red and >sore. The eyedrops I use are Murine Tears lubricant eye drops. >I have read that you shouldn't use the kind that " gets the red >out " , or they will further irritate your eyes. My case has been >pretty mild so far. > >temk wrote: > >> Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) >> Encoding: quoted-printable > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Trusted Dental Supply Brands at Great Savings. Fast Product Research. >Timely Delivery. Personal Service. Find Everything You Need to Make >Smarter Purchasing Decisions at edentalstore. >1/768/5/_/6563/_/948234050/ > >-- Check out your group's private Chat room >-- ChatPage?listName=hyperthyroidism & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Thank you. I do elavate my head at night. I bought a cosmetic ice mask. You put it in the freezer for 10 mins and it feels great. Re: Puffy eyes It does help to elevate your head while sleeping. I tended to only use a very soft pillow but now prop my head and shoulders deliberately on a higher filled pillow. Good luck. Elaine Researching Bohemian SurnamesS L E P I C K A and H R U S K A Puffy eyes Help!! I am suffering from thyroid eye disease. My doctor tells me it is moderate. I am so self conscious about my eyes. They are puffy. Is there anything that can be done? They are dry at times and I use OTC eye drops. Until recently, they were tearing quite a bit. If the puffiness would go down, I could live with this. Please help me if you can. I appreciate your time. Keller Send our cash to your group!Get $20 from X.com, then send money like email to your friends. eGroups.com Home: hyperthyroidismwww. - Simplifying group communications eGroups.com Home: hyperthyroidismwww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2000 Report Share Posted January 21, 2000 Hi folks, I'm new to the list, not sure I'm in the right place. Suffered for many years with Graves, which appeared after the birth of my first child 19 years ago. After 10 years of problems, beta blockers, PTU, Tapazole, and occasional remission, finally underwent RAI in 91 (2x) and am now, of course, hypo. Have felt reasonably well for the past 8 years. However, there are still some things, though I'm not hyper-, linger as a result of Graves. I have had some problems with a puffy eye which was dismissed as being allergy related, so now I'm wondering. I have had repeated, negative tests for protrusion but nobody ever said anything about puffiness...so to make a long story short, I'm hoping to still find information and others who have shared my experience. Whether this is the forum or another group, I guess I'll soon find out. Thanks, Amy wrote: > - > > My eyes don't necessarily get puffy, but they do get red and > sore. The eyedrops I use are Murine Tears lubricant eye drops. > I have read that you shouldn't use the kind that " gets the red > out " , or they will further irritate your eyes. My case has been > pretty mild so far. > > temk wrote: > > > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > > Encoding: quoted-printable > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Trusted Dental Supply Brands at Great Savings. Fast Product Research. > Timely Delivery. Personal Service. Find Everything You Need to Make > Smarter Purchasing Decisions at edentalstore. > 1/768/5/_/6563/_/948234050/ > > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- ChatPage?listName=hyperthyroidism & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2000 Report Share Posted January 21, 2000 I wanted to say hi to everyone as I am new to this group. Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories and advise. Graves has changed my life dramatically and has caused me so much suffering and unhappiness. The only way I manage to deal with it is by enjoying my return back to college and by the support of family and friends....they make a big difference by not allowing me to focus on it all the time. Thanks again for sharing all your great advice and stories to everyone and I look forward to chatting with you all again soon. Thanks, Carolann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2000 Report Share Posted January 22, 2000 Hi Amy, I have thyroid eye disease (TED). I received RAI May 99. Eyes started acting up about a few months ago. I have lots of tearing and puffiness. I look awful. I am lucky not to have any bulging. I, too, am looking for any help or suggestions on the eye problem. I am told the puffiness will not go away. It may go down a little but, never totally gone. I am anxious to hear from you. Re: Puffy eyes >Hi folks, >I'm new to the list, not sure I'm in the right place. Suffered for many >years with Graves, which appeared after the birth of my first child 19 years >ago. After 10 years of problems, beta blockers, PTU, Tapazole, and >occasional remission, finally underwent RAI in 91 (2x) and am now, of >course, hypo. Have felt reasonably well for the past 8 years. However, there >are still some things, though I'm not hyper-, linger as a result of Graves. >I have had some problems with a puffy eye which was dismissed as being >allergy related, so now I'm wondering. I have had repeated, negative tests >for protrusion but nobody ever said anything about puffiness...so to make a >long story short, I'm hoping to still find information and others who have >shared my experience. Whether this is the forum or another group, I guess >I'll soon find out. > >Thanks, >Amy > > wrote: > >> - >> >> My eyes don't necessarily get puffy, but they do get red and >> sore. The eyedrops I use are Murine Tears lubricant eye drops. >> I have read that you shouldn't use the kind that " gets the red >> out " , or they will further irritate your eyes. My case has been >> pretty mild so far. >> >> temk wrote: >> >> > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) >> > Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Trusted Dental Supply Brands at Great Savings. Fast Product Research. >> Timely Delivery. Personal Service. Find Everything You Need to Make >> Smarter Purchasing Decisions at edentalstore. >> 1/768/5/_/6563/_/948234050/ >> >> -- Check out your group's private Chat room >> -- ChatPage?listName=hyperthyroidism & m=1 > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >WEMedia.com empowers persons with disabilities to build a strong and vibrant community. >1/682/5/_/6563/_/948418306/ > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- cal?listname=hyperthyroidism & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2000 Report Share Posted January 22, 2000 To tell you the truth, I didn't connect my eye puffiness (is this periorbital edema?) to my thyroid at all. Having had RAI so long ago, and feeling relatively well on replacement, I just assumed it was age/sleep/eyestrain/allergies (I have a lot of sinus problems) related. You've had RAI pretty recently so things could change. I've never been diagnosed with TED, never had bulging and feel fortunate since you can still get that after RAI. I've found that as others have suggested, sleeping on my back helps. Drinking lots of water seems to help me also. I'm not an herb person so I don't know of a lot of the things I've seen here. Cold compresses feel great but I'm not sure they've helped me enough to do this often. I've also used a cosmetic eye cream that I kept in the fridge. Felt good but again, I'm not sure it helped. Don't know if I have anything else to tell.... Amy temk wrote: > Hi Amy, > > I have thyroid eye disease (TED). I received RAI May 99. Eyes started > acting up about a few months ago. I have lots of tearing and puffiness. I > look awful. I am lucky not to have any bulging. I, too, am looking for any > help or suggestions on the eye problem. I am told the puffiness will not go > away. It may go down a little but, never totally gone. I am anxious to > hear from you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2000 Report Share Posted January 22, 2000 I have had the problem and now it seems to be my sinuses that make my eyes hurt and swell at times...I use a HEPA air cleaner in the bedroom and an ice pack along with 1 Advil will make the swelling go away when it is really noticeable. Sheri Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2000 Report Share Posted January 22, 2000 Thank you for responding. I appreciate your info. I am not into herbs and I am hesitant to believe in them. However, I found info on using black tea bags damp on your eyes for 10 minutes. It seems they have a natural ingredient that reduces swelling. I will give this a try. I agree, the cold compresses feel good, but I am not sure what effect it really has. You mentioned water helps you---does it seem to reduce swelling? I also wish I could get this tearing to stop. Thanks again and I look forward to hearing from you. Re: Puffy eyes >To tell you the truth, I didn't connect my eye puffiness (is this periorbital >edema?) to my thyroid at all. Having had RAI so long ago, and feeling >relatively well on replacement, I just assumed it was >age/sleep/eyestrain/allergies (I have a lot of sinus problems) related. You've >had RAI pretty recently so things could change. I've never been diagnosed with >TED, never had bulging and feel fortunate since you can still get that after >RAI. > >I've found that as others have suggested, sleeping on my back helps. Drinking >lots of water seems to help me also. I'm not an herb person so I don't know of a >lot of the things I've seen here. Cold compresses feel great but I'm not sure >they've helped me enough to do this often. I've also used a cosmetic eye cream >that I kept in the fridge. Felt good but again, I'm not sure it helped. Don't >know if I have anything else to tell.... > >Amy > > >temk wrote: > >> Hi Amy, >> >> I have thyroid eye disease (TED). I received RAI May 99. Eyes started >> acting up about a few months ago. I have lots of tearing and puffiness. I >> look awful. I am lucky not to have any bulging. I, too, am looking for any >> help or suggestions on the eye problem. I am told the puffiness will not go >> away. It may go down a little but, never totally gone. I am anxious to >> hear from you. >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >WEMedia.com empowers persons with disabilities to build a strong and vibrant community. >1/682/5/_/6563/_/948546886/ > >eGroups.com Home: hyperthyroidism/ > - Simplifying group communications > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2000 Report Share Posted January 23, 2000 Sheri Lyn, Thank you--I will give the Advil a try for swelling. I use an ice mask and get some relief. Re: Puffy eyes >I have had the problem and now it seems to be my sinuses that make my eyes >hurt and swell at times...I use a HEPA air cleaner in the bedroom and an ice >pack along with 1 Advil will make the swelling go away when it is really >noticeable. Sheri Lynn > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >WEMedia.com empowers persons with disabilities to build a strong and vibrant community. >1/682/5/_/6563/_/948569385/ > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- cal?listname=hyperthyroidism & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2000 Report Share Posted January 24, 2000 > Thank you for responding. I appreciate your info. I am not into herbs and > I am hesitant to believe in them. : I don't want to change your whole world view, but I did want to give some information to think about. First of all, herbs have been used as medicines for millenia; allopathic medicine got it's start only a few hundred years ago. Even that was an attempt by the church of Rome to undermine the midwives, healers and wise women of the villages in Europe (all of a sudden it was law that only men could become doctors), but we won't get into that. The Penan people of Borneo and Malaysia have medicinal uses for over 6500 different plants, and we're cutting down the Indonesian rainforest at an absolutely alarming rate. We won't get into that either. However, the cure for AIDS or cancer may be lying in some tropical valley, or it may already be gone. Almost all modern medicines in use today have their base in plants. According to a friend of mine who is a Medical Herbalist, " Herbal medicine is the oldest system of medicine in the world. The World Health Organization estimates that 85% of the world depends on the use of plants for their healing properties. Many orthodox medicines have their origin in plant material, often isolating the plants’ constituents. Herbal medicine, in using the whole plant, provides a more balanced medicine that avoids the side effects often associated with prescription medicine. The herbalist combines a modern understanding of the disease process with knowledge and experience of the healing properties of plants. Given under the supervision of a trained herbal practitioner, herbal remedies are completely safe. " Digitalis (the hear drug) comes from the foxglove plant, and there are many, many common examples. In the early 1800's a French doctor discovered that the Native people of the NE United States would make a tea from the inner bark of the white willow tree or from wintergreen leaves to treat headaches, arthritis and other ailments. He did some research and 'discovered' that these plants contain high amounts of natural salycilicates (the latin name for willow is Salix sp.). The small white pill consumed in the billions today (called aspirin, or acetylsalycilic acid) is a derivative of a cheap coal tar. So, you can choose whether or not you want to believe in th healing power of plants, but at least make an informed decision. Take care, Me. P.S. People all over are turning to herbs and other 'alternative' medicines. Keep in mind that just because they're 'natural' doesn't mean they can't be harmful. For something as serious as Grave's it's vital to work with a medical herbalist or naturopathic doctor rather than self treating. What works for one person may not necessarily work for another as the emphasis is on treating the whole person and not just the symptoms. -- " The kingdom of God is within you and all around you, not in mansions of wood and stone. Split a piece of wood and I am there. Lift a stone and you will find Me. " The Gospel of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2000 Report Share Posted January 25, 2000 Thanks for the info on herbs. I am not sure about them but, don't get me wrong. I would consider them. Can they be any worse that radioactive iodine??? I do not want to rule out anything; I just want to be well. You mentioned in another email that we need to exercise lightly. I used to be into aerobics. Will I ever be able to return to that level of exercise or is yoga it? Also, I gather from others messages that they seem to wax and wane as far as symptoms of Graves. Is that typical that symptoms will come and go? Is is possible to feel good with a tsh of 0.016? I realize I have several questions. I am just so excited to have found someone who might be able to help me. Thanks again, Re: Puffy eyes >> Thank you for responding. I appreciate your info. I am not into herbs and >> I am hesitant to believe in them. > >: I don't want to change your whole world view, but I did want to give some >information to think about. First of all, herbs have been used as medicines for >millenia; allopathic medicine got it's start only a few hundred years ago. Even >that was an attempt by the church of Rome to undermine the midwives, healers and >wise women of the villages in Europe (all of a sudden it was law that only men >could become doctors), but we won't get into that. The Penan people of Borneo >and Malaysia have medicinal uses for over 6500 different plants, and we're >cutting down the Indonesian rainforest at an absolutely alarming rate. We won't >get into that either. However, the cure for AIDS or cancer may be lying in some >tropical valley, or it may already be gone. > >Almost all modern medicines in use today have their base in plants. According to >a friend of mine who is a Medical Herbalist, " Herbal medicine is the oldest >system of medicine in the world. The World Health Organization estimates that >85% of the world depends on the use of plants for their healing properties. >Many orthodox medicines have their origin in plant material, often isolating the >plants’ constituents. Herbal medicine, in using the whole plant, provides a >more balanced medicine that avoids the side effects often associated with >prescription medicine. The herbalist combines a modern understanding of the >disease process with knowledge and experience of the healing properties of >plants. Given under the supervision of a trained herbal practitioner, herbal >remedies are completely safe. " > >Digitalis (the hear drug) comes from the foxglove plant, and there are many, >many common examples. In the early 1800's a French doctor discovered that the >Native people of the NE United States would make a tea from the inner bark of >the white willow tree or from wintergreen leaves to treat headaches, arthritis >and other ailments. He did some research and 'discovered' that these plants >contain high amounts of natural salycilicates (the latin name for willow is >Salix sp.). The small white pill consumed in the billions today (called >aspirin, or acetylsalycilic acid) is a derivative of a cheap coal tar. > >So, you can choose whether or not you want to believe in th healing power of >plants, but at least make an informed decision. > >Take care, > >Me. > >P.S. People all over are turning to herbs and other 'alternative' medicines. >Keep in mind that just because they're 'natural' doesn't mean they can't be >harmful. For something as serious as Grave's it's vital to work with a medical >herbalist or naturopathic doctor rather than self treating. What works for one >person may not necessarily work for another as the emphasis is on treating the >whole person and not just the symptoms. > > >-- > " The kingdom of God is within you and all around you, >not in mansions of wood and stone. > >Split a piece of wood and I am there. >Lift a stone and you will find Me. " > >The Gospel of > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >WEMedia.com empowers persons with disabilities to build a strong and vibrant community. >1/682/5/_/6563/_/948718603/ > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- cal?listname=hyperthyroidism & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2000 Report Share Posted January 25, 2000 > You mentioned in another email that we need to exercise lightly. I used to > be into aerobics. Will I ever be able to return to that level of exercise > or is yoga it? High impact aerobics actually do more harm to your body than good. You should be able to do something like low impact aerobics, swimming, cycling, not to mention walking. Yoga exercises work the body in specific ways that can be very healthful. For me, I'll stick with tai chi. There are several different forms of tai chi, but the form that Marcia and I practice (Taoist Tai Chi Society - http://www.taoist.org) is devoted specifically to health benefit and health improvement. If you can walk, you can do tai chi. If you can't walk, you can do tai chi in a wheelchair and it may help you to walk again...seen it happen. Me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2000 Report Share Posted January 26, 2000 Thanks for the input!! K. Re: Puffy eyes >> You mentioned in another email that we need to exercise lightly. I used to >> be into aerobics. Will I ever be able to return to that level of exercise >> or is yoga it? > >High impact aerobics actually do more harm to your body than good. You should >be able to do something like low impact aerobics, swimming, cycling, not to >mention walking. Yoga exercises work the body in specific ways that can be very >healthful. > >For me, I'll stick with tai chi. There are several different forms of tai chi, >but the form that Marcia and I practice (Taoist Tai Chi Society - >http://www.taoist.org) is devoted specifically to health benefit and health >improvement. If you can walk, you can do tai chi. If you can't walk, you can >do tai chi in a wheelchair and it may help you to walk again...seen it happen. > >Me. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >WEMedia.com empowers persons with disabilities to build a strong and vibrant community. >1/682/5/_/6563/_/948846079/ > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- cal?listname=hyperthyroidism & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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