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Sue,

Sometimes side effects go away or become tolerable when our bodies adjust to

medications.

If it is helping so much, make sure you tell your doctor how much it helps

and ask him if you should try to ride out these problems in hopes that your

body adjusts.

a

> on 9/7/02 8:23 AM, a at paula54@... wrote:

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>> > Hi Sue. Yes, Arava¹s side effect can be rash. Here is some info from

>> > Arava's website:

>

>> > You should let your doctor know.

>

> Thanks, a, I'll let him know. The thing is, Arava has relieved my pain.

> I certainly hope that my body can tolerate it.

>

> Sue

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on 9/8/02 1:03 PM, a at paula54@... wrote:

> Sometimes side effects go away or become tolerable when our bodies adjust to

> medications.

> If it is helping so much, make sure you tell your doctor how much it helps

> and ask him if you should try to ride out these problems in hopes that your

> body adjusts.

a, I think that the rash is already better. I think I can put up with a

little rash better that I can put up with a return of my pain. When I was

taking just mtx and Bextra, I still had a lot of pain, especially in my

knees. My pain is virtually nonexistent now! I think that Arava ranks right

up there with prednisone.

It's time for bloodwork this week, so when I call my endo about that, I'll

mention the rash to him.

Thanks for the input.

Sue in NC

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Hi, I went to the derm. for the butterfly rash as the " wonderful "

rheumy I used at the time said it was rosacea....He gave me a

salve....Nothing changed. After being on Mino for many months the

rash disappeared. Every now and then if I am very upset and usually

working on the computer (LOL), the rash will reappear...but for only

a very short while.

AP will do the trick...I sincerely mean that.

Love, Barb (SLE, Raynauds)

> For anyone who has that persistent butterfly rash....

>

> Is there any cleanser and moisturiser that will help soothe this

> rash? I feel like my face is on fire. I've been trying different

> skincare products over the past week and I think that might have

> irritated the rash on my face. Before this experimentation, my

face

> was okay, just a little red on my cheeks. Since yesterday, it's

> really red, dry, hot and irritated. Also, does anyone get small

red

> pimples on their face that sometimes itch in addition to the rash?

>

> On a different note, i went to see my AP doctor last Friday for my

> 2nd appt. He increased the dosage of doxy to 200mg daily. He also

> started to cut down on my Plaquenil dosage. However, I am still on

5

> mg of Prednisone a day.

>

> I dont know if this rash is related to me cutting down on the

> plaquenil, increasing the doxy dosage, or using skincare products

> that might have iritated my skin.

>

> Annette

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Annette, I have Dermatomyositis,skin rash part of disease. I found aloe vera

gel(store bought or right from the plant) was very soothing. Also, a lotion

by Aveenol was nice as well. You can get it plain or with calamine in it to

help sooth the itch. Gold bond lotion in the yellow bottle worked okay on

other parts of me, but was just a bit harsh on the face.

HTH

Carol/Piney

rheumatic rash

> For anyone who has that persistent butterfly rash....

>

> Is there any cleanser and moisturiser that will help soothe this

> rash? I feel like my face is on fire. I've been trying different

> skincare products over the past week and I think that might have

> irritated the rash on my face. Before this experimentation, my face

> was okay, just a little red on my cheeks. Since yesterday, it's

> really red, dry, hot and irritated. Also, does anyone get small red

> pimples on their face that sometimes itch in addition to the rash?

>

> On a different note, i went to see my AP doctor last Friday for my

> 2nd appt. He increased the dosage of doxy to 200mg daily. He also

> started to cut down on my Plaquenil dosage. However, I am still on 5

> mg of Prednisone a day.

>

> I dont know if this rash is related to me cutting down on the

> plaquenil, increasing the doxy dosage, or using skincare products

> that might have iritated my skin.

>

> Annette

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Have you contacted Dr. G to make sure it is not an

autoimmune response? I have had something like that

that I later learned was probably one. Barb

--- Regina Feferman <help2live@...> wrote:

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> Hi Jerri,

> Very interesting about this rush, I have exactly the

> same simptoms (could not describe it better), it is

> just horrible, I have ti stop myself from itching

> all the time, but except for this I fill just gteat.

> To my opinion I developed new allergy (at age 35 I

> start to develop very strange allergy like for

> silver and other methal) probably for limes and may

> be for oranges. This rush came from couple of good

> " Margaritas " . Lately I am thinking it might be just

> because fo cold weather (it is very cold now in MN)

> and dry air as well. No one in family have the same

> simptoms.

> Regina

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-Hi,

Do you have your daughter on other supplements? I had this exact

problem and it turned out that my daughter could no longer handle (ie

no longer needed) the high dose of vitamin B she was on. We cut back

and would up cutting out her SNT entirely and she was fine. I

believe the enzymes help the body absorb so many more vitamins and

nutrients that other supplements can become overkill. We have since

added back in the tiniest dose of TMG which is effective. Other

parents have reported the same thing (vit B-rash with enyzmes.)

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In , " r2young3390 " <r2young3390@y...>

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> Hello Everyone,

> First of all-thank you for this wonderful discussion group.

> I have learned so much and I have enjoyed hearing your sucess

stories.

> Because of these stories,I started my 7 yr. old daughter on enzymes

5

> weeks ago with wonderful results.

> Recently however she has developed a rash all over her body.It

doesn't

> seem to bother her at all but it looks awful.My question is after 5

> weeks of enzymes with absolutely no problems-could this be enzyme

> related? Or should I look elsewhere for the problem? I absolutely

> would hate to stop the enzymes because of the wonderful results I

have

> seen.

> Thanks for all your help and encouragement,

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>>My question is after 5

> weeks of enzymes with absolutely no problems-could this be enzyme

> related?

Might be that she needs less of other supplements. Might be yeast die

off, depending on which enzymes you are using. Might be a few other

things.

Dana

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Hi ,

The only supplement my daughter gets is thru her nutrition drink

KinderKal to help her gain weight.There doesn't seem to be a large

amount of the B vitamins in it.I will take her off of the KinderKal

to see if this helps.

Thanks-

ead@y...> wrote:

> -Hi,

> Do you have your daughter on other supplements? I had this exact

> problem and it turned out that my daughter could no longer handle

(ie

> no longer needed) the high dose of vitamin B she was on. We cut

back

> and would up cutting out her SNT entirely and she was fine. I

> believe the enzymes help the body absorb so many more vitamins and

> nutrients that other supplements can become overkill. We have

since

> added back in the tiniest dose of TMG which is effective. Other

> parents have reported the same thing (vit B-rash with enyzmes.)

>

> -

-

> In , " r2young3390 "

<r2young3390@y...>

> wrote:

> > Hello Everyone,

> > First of all-thank you for this wonderful discussion group.

> > I have learned so much and I have enjoyed hearing your sucess

> stories.

> > Because of these stories,I started my 7 yr. old daughter on

enzymes

> 5

> > weeks ago with wonderful results.

> > Recently however she has developed a rash all over her body.It

> doesn't

> > seem to bother her at all but it looks awful.My question is after

5

> > weeks of enzymes with absolutely no problems-could this be enzyme

> > related? Or should I look elsewhere for the problem? I absolutely

> > would hate to stop the enzymes because of the wonderful results I

> have

> > seen.

> > Thanks for all your help and encouragement,

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> Hi,

> My 8yo NT daughter has developed an allergy rash. She has a

history

> of allergies but has not had a reaction in years. I gave her GSE

> last monday thru friday for the 1st time. She found a recipe for

> lemonade on thursday and went strawberry picking.

Strawberries can be nasty for this.

My

> question is how long would a food allergy rash last

For me, about 2-3 days.

and would her

> brothers NF or other enzymes help at this point?

Possibly. You can try if you want.

Any input would be

> appreciated. She is itchy and miserable(no behavior effects)

I have heard oatmeal baths/rubs can be helpful.

Dana

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Hi & welcome to our group:Have you been leaving the helmet off at all? If the rash is not going away, even w/the cortisone, you may want to keep the helmet off her for a little while. It's not a red spot from the band is it?

how old is your daughter? What type of helmet is she wearing?

Debbie Abby's mom DOCgrad MIchigancsumler2000 <csumler2000@...> wrote:

My daughter has had her helmet about a week and she has developed a rash on the side of her face. I was told to put cortizone cream on it but that isn't working. So I put some other medication on it that she had from a previous rash and it seems to be helping, but it's not going away. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this! I'm concerned about long time wear and how it'll effect my daughter being able to wear the helmet! Any advice is appreciated! SumlerFor more plagio info

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Hi ,

Welcome to the group! I agree w/everything Debbie has already told

you. Also you can ask your ortho about adding moleskin to your

daughter's band.

> My daughter has had her helmet about a week and she has developed a

> rash on the side of her face. I was told to put cortizone cream on

> it but that isn't working. So I put some other medication on it

that

> she had from a previous rash and it seems to be helping, but it's

not

> going away. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this!

I'm

> concerned about long time wear and how it'll effect my daughter

being

> able to wear the helmet! Any advice is appreciated!

> Sumler

>

>

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Thanks for the advice! The ortho didn't think it was a rubbing

spot. We've left the helmet off for about 2 days and it is getting

better, but hasn't completely disappeared. The ortho didn't

recognize the " rash " and stated several times that it wasn't a rub

spot. She said we might have to put a nylon " sock " over her head,

under the helmet. Does that have a different effect than the

moleskin?

Morgen is 7 1/2 months old and has a Starband. She has adjusted to

it so well, we were amazed! It's been a disappointment to have to

take the helmet off and then have to wean her back into it.

Thanks again for the suggestions!

> > My daughter has had her helmet about a week and she has developed

a

> > rash on the side of her face. I was told to put cortizone cream

on

> > it but that isn't working. So I put some other medication on it

> that

> > she had from a previous rash and it seems to be helping, but it's

> not

> > going away. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this!

> I'm

> > concerned about long time wear and how it'll effect my daughter

> being

> > able to wear the helmet! Any advice is appreciated!

> > Sumler

> >

> >

> >

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> hello everyone: my son always has a rash on his hips and buttocks.

> raised red bumps or pimples. i think it may be yeast related

For my #3 son, it can be yeast, or a food or supplement he does not tolerate, or

too much or too little of a supplement.

So, you can try treating for yeast, especially if he has other yeast symptoms.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Good luck.

Dana

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Hi Tina, I'm a Tina too. My 8 yr old son gets (pimply) bumps on his

butt cheeks and the back of the upper arms (triceps), and very

occassionally, small, little bumps on his face cheeks. His face bumps

are more like sand feeling, not so big or red like the others. I

can't figure it out if it's a nutrient deficiency or food

intolerance. He got them before we started biomedical intervention so

I don't think it's overdosing of a supplement. Maybe like you said,

it could be yeast. We just keep piecing the puzzle together. Good

Luck. Tina B

-- In , " pennington1994 "

<tina23ii@a...> wrote:

> hello everyone: my son always has a rash on his hips and buttocks.

> raised red bumps or pimples. i think it may be yeast related. i was

> wondering if anyone else has this and how to get rid of it. thanks

> tina

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Hi

I would try giving CLO and see if this helps the rash. I read in " Mastering

Autism " that a person should/or can take up to five teaspoons of Cod Liver Oil

per day until the rash disappears. I assume you are talking about what a lot

of folks refer to as " chicken skin. "

Ann

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We also had the bumps on my son's cheeks, upper arms and upper legs. We

started using the Coromega Omega -3 fish oil supplement from Kirkmans and

within 2 weeks he no longer had them. It comes in a little packet like

pudding and has an orangey taste that is easy to mix into applesauce or

juice for that matter. We've used it for over a year and when we run out I

notice that they start coming back. Good luck.

Re: rash

Hi Tina, I'm a Tina too. My 8 yr old son gets (pimply) bumps on his

butt cheeks and the back of the upper arms (triceps), and very

occassionally, small, little bumps on his face cheeks. His face bumps

are more like sand feeling, not so big or red like the others. I

can't figure it out if it's a nutrient deficiency or food

intolerance. He got them before we started biomedical intervention so

I don't think it's overdosing of a supplement. Maybe like you said,

it could be yeast. We just keep piecing the puzzle together. Good

Luck. Tina B

-- In , " pennington1994 "

<tina23ii@a...> wrote:

> hello everyone: my son always has a rash on his hips and buttocks.

> raised red bumps or pimples. i think it may be yeast related. i was

> wondering if anyone else has this and how to get rid of it. thanks

> tina

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I don't know about the cause for the rash, but baking soda in my

son's bath water (along with the epsom salts) really soothes his

eczema. It might give her some relief while you're working through

the reasons...

> My 4 year old daughter has had a rash under her right arm and down

> her side for a couple weeks now. I can barely feel the bumpsbut

the

> red dots are very visible. It did irritate her under the arm. I

> stopped the vitamin a right away (we were only at 5,000 iu twin

labs

> and no other sources). The rash is slowly going away. Does it

sound

> like it was from the vitamin a?

>

> Thank you for any thoughts!

> Becky

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> My 4 year old daughter has had a rash under her right arm and down

> her side for a couple weeks now. I can barely feel the bumpsbut the

> red dots are very visible. It did irritate her under the arm. I

> stopped the vitamin a right away (we were only at 5,000 iu twin labs

> and no other sources). The rash is slowly going away. Does it sound

> like it was from the vitamin a?

Yes, it does sound like it is likely a vitamin A toxicity rash.

Dana

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-- is he on the dmps right now, or was that a week ago or so?

if this is happening while he is on the dmps right now, then I would

say " caution " ... if it starts showing up as redness in his mouth or

on his lips, or his eyes getting weepy/conjunctivitis, then you

definitely need to stop using it. My son had the redness in his

mouth/lips first and THEN we noticed the red bumps on his skin, and

so basically this was an allergic reaction called erythema

multiforme, which is what happens before s Syndrome.

But if this is happening on the week or two off of the dmps, then it

might be what some call a " mercury rash " .

W

> My three year old NT who has done one round of Andy's DMPS protocol

(and will

> be continuing) has a rash that I'm hoping someone could help me

with. He is

> also taking the Elyte premixed liquid minerals, milk thistle, yummi

bears

> vitamins,

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> My three year old NT who has done one round of Andy's DMPS

protocol (and will

> be continuing) has a rash that I'm hoping someone could help me

with. He is

> also taking the Elyte premixed liquid minerals, milk thistle,

yummi bears

> vitamins, yummi bears whole foods, oral MB-12, folinic acid, B-6,

> trimethylglycine, and Nordic Naturals Balanced Omega Combination.

He has been taking these

> supplements for quite a while. He did his first round of

chelation last

> weekend. He has not been exposed to extreme heat and hasn't been

hot enough to sweat

> a lot lately. The rash is on his back and starts at the base of

his neck.

> It is a bunch of small red bumps that goes down about four inches

through that

> little dip between his shoulder blades. Below that, there are

small bumps

> without color. On his chest and stomach, he has a few random red

bumps. Could

> this be a reaction to DMPS or something else he is taking? Has

anyone seen

> anything like this? I have a feeling that our mainstream MD is

going to just say

> it is heat rash, but I'm a little worried. Thanks so much!

Hi ,

I got a lot of rashes while I was chelating. I also have

a long history of allergic rashes. At the time (when I

was chelating) I kept reporting that I didn't know if the

rashes were related to chelating (I was having them more

often than the prior year, but since I have had varying

degrees and frequencies of rashes ANYWAY it was hard to

tell). I now think it was related since I have gone back

to much less problem with rashes (after stopped chelating).

There has been a lot of discussion of " mercury rashes " ,

and I am not clear if all (or even most) of the rashes

are " similar " (in looks size feeling). Anyway, it seems

to be a common theme.

I don't know if this helps!

Oh--- I recently tried a product called " miracle rash repair "

and am finding it VERY effective for itching. (Active

ingredients are aloe and dead sea salt). I got it from

Rite-Aid or Walgreens or something like that.

good wishes,

Moria

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> Hi

> I finally started my son on enzymes, zyme prime & afp pep. I gave

him just a 1/

> 4 cap of each with dinner the past two nights. He is still GFCF, no

new foods.

> He woke up this morning with a mild, not ichy rash. It looks like a

heat rash

> except his knees are a little worse than the rest of his body.

Do you give vitamin A? This sounds similar to my son's toxicity rash.

Otherwise it might be an ingredient in the enzymes. Is the Zyme Prime

the SCD version?

Or it might be detox, or a reaction to a food he eats which he does

not tolerate, even with the enzymes. Or viral die off.

Dana

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Hi ,

Last night, I had a similar experience. I had just brushed my teeth

with a new toothpaste containing grapefruit seed extract. ten

minutes later, I start to get a pain in my stomach. i also started

breaking out in red bumps-under my arms, between legs and on the

palms of my hands. They itched horribly so took some Benadryl. I

kept thinking it must be the enzymes (on HNI ZP). It wasn't until

this morning, when I looked at the toothpaste, that I made the

connection. Anyway, I'm sure it's die-off.

I'm going to gradually add the GSE into my diet via drops in glass of

water. Also, continuing with the enzymes. After giggling for a few

weeks, I know I'm finally getting some yeast out of my system.

Take care,

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