Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Kathy, Did you eat bananas and drink orange juice? J >From: KATBERCOO@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: [ ] Potassium >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:33:32 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From errors-165537-3793-shireen42 Mon Jul 19 21:35:51 1999 >Received: from [209.207.164.13] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id >MHotMailB95D47A701C6D82197F1D1CFA40D740A0; Mon Jul 19 21:35:51 1999 >Received: (qmail 16552 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 1999 04:35:16 -0000 >Received: (qmail 16458 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 04:35:13 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO imo18.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.8) by >pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 04:35:13 -0000 >Received: from KATBERCOO@... by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id >hLZDa21217 (8063) for < onelist>; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 >00:33:31 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <4721eb4b.24c5561c@...> >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 >Mailing-List: list onelist; contact > -owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list onelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist> > >From: KATBERCOO@... > >Hello everyone! > >Just a note about potassium depletion. All of those who take diuretics >that >are not potassium sparing should check with your doctors about potassium >supplements if they haven't already prescribed them, and your levels should >be monitored often. > >I once went into shock and almost died from total potassium depletion. I >have heard of many who have wound up permanently disabled because of it. >It >is nothing to treat lightly. I was lucky that an ambulance tech recognized >the symptoms and they started me on an IV in the ambulance. The potassium >was added as soon as I got to the hospital. My potassium level was 0. > >I don't mean to sound like an alarmist, but it is an important issue. >Sometimes eating more bananas just isn't enough when you are taking a lot >of >diuretics. > >Kathy (AIH) >Seattle area > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 You cant survive without potassium. J >From: KATBERCOO@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] Potassium >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:10:07 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From errors-165537-3807-shireen42=hotmail.comonelist Mon Jul 19 >22:10:48 1999 >Received: (qmail 26263 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 1999 05:10:42 -0000 >Received: (qmail 26244 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 05:10:41 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO imo11.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.1) by >pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 05:10:41 -0000 >Received: from KATBERCOO@... by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id >hLEDa01152 (8063) for < onelist>; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 >01:10:07 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <6bbf7bd2.24c55eaf@...> >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 >Mailing-List: list onelist; contact > -owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list onelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist> > >From: KATBERCOO@... > >Dear Lynn: > >I hadn't heard that potassium was bad for the liver. I was prescribed >liquid >potassium when I was at my very worst (enzymes in the 2500-2700s), so I >guess >it depends on the situation. It could be the allergy medicine. The best >thing to do would be to check with your doctor about it. > >Kathy (AIH) >Seattle area > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi Kathy, you are right on with the potassium....I was being facetious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Dear Lynn: I hadn't heard that potassium was bad for the liver. I was prescribed liquid potassium when I was at my very worst (enzymes in the 2500-2700s), so I guess it depends on the situation. It could be the allergy medicine. The best thing to do would be to check with your doctor about it. Kathy (AIH) Seattle area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi, Kathy are the potassium inhancers or whatever they are called bad for your liver? I think that was mentioned sometime today. That is what I was thinking of earlier was potassium. I was prescribed Pot Chlor for this, and am now wondering it that is what is making my tests go up, that or possible alegra for allergies. Lynn in wa AIH KATBERCOO@... wrote: > From: KATBERCOO@... > > Hello everyone! > > Just a note about potassium depletion. All of those who take diuretics that > are not potassium sparing should check with your doctors about potassium > supplements if they haven't already prescribed them, and your levels should > be monitored often. > > I once went into shock and almost died from total potassium depletion. I > have heard of many who have wound up permanently disabled because of it. It > is nothing to treat lightly. I was lucky that an ambulance tech recognized > the symptoms and they started me on an IV in the ambulance. The potassium > was added as soon as I got to the hospital. My potassium level was 0. > > I don't mean to sound like an alarmist, but it is an important issue. > Sometimes eating more bananas just isn't enough when you are taking a lot of > diuretics. > > Kathy (AIH) > Seattle area > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi Group,Me Lori C. AIH & Liver tx, about the potassium, I agree here. my hepatologist told me that eating bananas is not enough to keep the patassium at the right level if you are on dieuretics. And even the Amiloride can cause potassium loss when it is supposed to be O.k. I am currently taking amiloride and I began to feel real dizzy for a couple of days and I called my coordinator and she said to be sure to drink like a glass of orange juice every day with the med. and a banana would be good, but if the dizziness continued to let her know, they would have to give me a potassium supplement. [ ] Potassium >From: KATBERCOO@... > >Hello everyone! > >Just a note about potassium depletion. All of those who take diuretics that >are not potassium sparing should check with your doctors about potassium >supplements if they haven't already prescribed them, and your levels should >be monitored often. > >I once went into shock and almost died from total potassium depletion. I >have heard of many who have wound up permanently disabled because of it. It >is nothing to treat lightly. I was lucky that an ambulance tech recognized >the symptoms and they started me on an IV in the ambulance. The potassium >was added as soon as I got to the hospital. My potassium level was 0. > >I don't mean to sound like an alarmist, but it is an important issue. >Sometimes eating more bananas just isn't enough when you are taking a lot of >diuretics. > >Kathy (AIH) >Seattle area > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Dear : I try to eat potassium rich foods now. I wasn't very savvy about it when I had my crisis situation. When I was given potassium supplements during the worst of my illness, my levels had gotten really low. I had so much trouble eating at that time, that I was not getting enough of anything. Ensure really helped me during that time. I'm not a big banana fan, but learned that cantaloupe is a good potassium rich food. Also potatoes with the skin on. I always have calcium enriched orange juice on hand now, and also always keep Gatorade on hand in case of diarrhea or vomiting attacks. When I was prescribed a potassium sparing diuretic, I was told that I could no longer take the potassium supplement. In fact, my pharmacist said that a red flag had come up when I got the prescription. I had to insure the pharmacist that I was no longer taking the potassium supplement before he could OK me getting the potassium sparing diuretic. Kathy (AIH) Seattle area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 1999 Report Share Posted July 21, 1999 Potassium levels are very important....Years ago when my 21 yr old was just a baby and nursing him I got a very bad case of the flu...Couldn't keep anything in or down....My hands started getting crampy and then my legs...My fingers started to fold in and get very stiff...My mom took me to docs and by the time I got there my hands were in tight fists that could not be opened....The pain was something else....My fingers were actually digging into the palms of my hands...thank God I never have long nails.....The doc said that my potassium was gone and started me on IV in his office.....Had to get perscription to replace potassium quickly....There is now a drink for babies who get sick that has a mixture of minerals etc so they do not get into deep trouble....Dehydration is a very dangerous thing and the loss of potassium is part of that......As soon as Tyler has any problems with getting enough food or fluids I buy this drink(don't know why I can't think of the name)....I want no extra problems.....This happened to me at a very healthy time of my life so you can imagine what it would be like for people with any health issues.... Pediolite....thats what it is called..... Well I hope this helps anyone.... Luanne Ty's mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 1999 Report Share Posted July 21, 1999 The drink is called pedialyte(SP?) I used it for my daughter when she had terrible diahrrea and vomitting from the flu, it works very well. Lori C.. AIH ~ Transplant Re: [ ] Potassium >From: BBNLU@... > >Potassium levels are very important....Years ago when my 21 yr old was just a >baby and nursing him I got a very bad case of the flu...Couldn't keep >anything in or down....My hands started getting crampy and then my legs...My >fingers started to fold in and get very stiff...My mom took me to docs and by >the time I got there my hands were in tight fists that could not be >opened....The pain was something else....My fingers were actually digging >into the palms of my hands...thank God I never have long nails.....The doc >said that my potassium was gone and started me on IV in his office.....Had to >get perscription to replace potassium quickly....There is now a drink for >babies who get sick that has a mixture of minerals etc so they do not get >into deep trouble....Dehydration is a very dangerous thing and the loss of >potassium is part of that......As soon as Tyler has any problems with getting >enough food or fluids I buy this drink(don't know why I can't think of the >name)....I want no extra problems.....This happened to me at a very healthy >time of my life so you can imagine what it would be like for people with any >health issues.... >Pediolite....thats what it is called..... >Well I hope this helps anyone.... >Luanne Ty's mom > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2000 Report Share Posted January 26, 2000 " Potassium and sodium work together in the body to maintain muscle tone, blood pressure, water balance, and other functions. Many researchers believe that part of the blood pressure problem caused by too much salt (which contains sodium) is made worse by too little dietary potassium. " When my wife and I hiked the Appalachian Trail back in '95, it was one of the hottest summers on record and potassium tablets saved our skins on more than a few occasions. We would drop 1 or 2 in our bottles of water and then just drink them down during the course of the day. Helped dramatically in terms of feeling good. Learned that trick from another hiker. Mark rheumatic Potassium > From: RK Rossi <bornfree@...> > > Potassium > > What does it do? Potassium is needed to regulate water balance, > levels of > acidity, blood pressure, and neuromuscular function. It's also > required for > > Where is it found? Most fruits are excellent sources. Beans, milk, > and vegetables contain significant amounts. > > In what conditions might potassium be supportive? > > . congestive heart failure > > . chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) > > . high blood pressure > > . kidney stones > > Who is likely to be deficient? So called primitive diets provided > much greater levels of potassium; modern diets may provide too little. > Gross deficiencies, however, are rare except in cases of prolonged > vomiting, diarrhea, or use of " potassium depleting " diuretic drugs. > Anyone taking one of these drugs should be informed by their doctor > to take potassium. Prescription levels of potassium are higher than > the amount sold over the counter but not more than the amount found in > several pieces of fruit. > > How much should I take? The best way to get extra potassium is to eat > several pieces of fruit per day. The amount allowed in supplements-99 > mg per tablet or capsule-is very low, considering that one banana can > contain 500 mg. It's not wise to take multiple potassium pills in an > attempt to get a higher amount, as they can irritate the stomach-a > problem not encountered with the potassium in fruit. > > Are there any side effects or interactions? Taking more than 99 mg by > taking multiple potassium pills can produce stomach irritation. > Potassium in fruit is safe for almost everyone, except for individuals > with kidney failure or those taking " potassium sparing " drugs used to > treat high blood pressure. Individuals on these drugs should consult a > nutritionally oriented doctor before taking potassium supplements or > increasing fruit intake. > > Potassium and sodium work together in the body to maintain muscle > tone, blood pressure, water balance, and other functions. Many > researchers believe that part of the blood pressure problem caused by > too much salt (which contains sodium) is made worse by too little > dietary potassium. > > > > This Encyclopedia was researched and written by a team of > nationally known health care professionals from a variety of > disciplines, who labored to create a new standard of excellence with > this innovative and comprehensive reference work. To learn more about > the authors and contributors click here. > Copyright © 1998, HealthNotes, Inc., > www.healthnotes.com, 1125 SE Madison, Suite 209, Portland, Oregon 97214 > > -- > Kiana Rossi > bornfree@... > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2000 Report Share Posted May 2, 2000 In a message dated 5/1/00 4:22:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cheryl@... writes: << Studies show that in people with hypertension, salt reduction alone doesn't improve BP control...it needs to be accompanied by an increase in potassium. >> often people try to use a salt substitute and unwittingly use one with potassium salts and wind up in the hospital over it....b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Joyce, as far as your question re: potassium level, I don't have the foggiest. Could stand to be enlightened myself. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 According to my lab bible, increased potassium (hyperkalemia) can be caused by fever, renal problems, cortisol insufficiency like 's disease. However, by far the most common cause of a high potassium is a poorly collected blood specimen and this we see all the time. If the specimen becomes hemolyzed, meaning red blood cells break down in the test tube, then the potassium is falsely elevated. Some drugs, like penicillin, can also cause a false elevation. Since a high potassium, like a low potassium, can affect heart muscle, it's good to have it repeated. Most labs would do this at no charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 In a message dated 02/06/2001 3:28:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, Kaytarot@... writes: << I was wondering if anyone knew the importance of potassium on the liver. I cant seem to keep potassium in my body. Also, 3-4 years back, my doctor said to never take Tylenol, Ibuprofen and Alieve . Its bad for the liver and they share a common ingredient. Thats just what he told me. Any thoughts on the potassium ? Also, this is un-liver related, but does anyone have any ideas on how to rid the dark bags from under the eyes ? Its making me look older and I dont like that. LOL Thanks, Kay >> Hi Kay, I take K-DUR (a potassium supplement prescription) daily. I also take diuretics for my ascities, they deplete the body of potassium. How do you know you are lacking potassium, what is your count on them. Mine is 4.7. Your doctor should/would give you a script for it. Do you have the leg cramps from the lack of potassium? They are worse then childbirth....LOL... About the dark bags under your eyes, they are liver related. One of the symptoms of liver disease, as is ridged fingernails, as is tiredness, etc. Until I got this disease I looked in my late 40's...I now look in my early 50's...I won't say how old Iam but I am retiried...LOL.. I will gladly look any age as long as I am alive. This Dragon is always roaring it ugly head, giving us a new challenge each day. But challenges are just that...a challenge.. Love ya'll, have a great day, remember to laugh all day. Laughter is music to the heart and very healing. Soooooo, laugh a lot, love a lot, and be healthy, especially love a lot, the more love you give the more you get in return..... Joan, Florida PBC, AIH, 1 Gall Stone, HBP Fox <A HREF= " aol://1722:http://www.foxdianasden.com " >Fox 's Den</A> (aol only) <A HREF= " http://www.foxdianasden.com " >http://www.foxdianasden.com</A> Foxy's Health <A HREF= " http://www.foxdianasden.com/health.com " >Foxy's Health</A> (aol only) <A HREF= " http://www.foxdianasden.com/health.com " > http://www.foxdianasden.com/health.htm</A> Liver Support <A HREF= " http://www.foxdianasden.com/liver support.htm " >Liver Support</A> (aol only) <A HREF= " http://www.foxdianasden.com/liver support.htm " > http://www.foxdianasden.com/liversupport.htm</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Hi Joan, I will have to look on my papers to see what my potassium count is. All I know is that he said I was very low, and in the mornings, if I dont eat anything by noon, I get faint, feel sick, get real shakey and get hot and cold sweats. About 10 years ago, I was sick with the flu. I went outside and fainted. I broke my jaw in two places, along with cutting my chin open. The doctor said it was because I didnt have enough potassium in my system. So, they've been saying that for years.. I know in the hospital, they always pump me full of it.. Ive had the leg cramps and they are a killer. The best way to get rid of them real fast is to stand and try to walk while you have the cramp, it usually goes away fast. I heard leg cramps were from lack of calcium, but I dont know. I havent had any for awhile thank God. So it looks like Im stuck with black baggie eyes huh? Bummer.. If I could find a way to sleep at night, that might help, but my favorite talk show artist just came back on the air.( Art Bell ). His show is from 10pm to 4am. So last nights " bags " are my own fault. LOL Thanks Joan for answering. Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 Most of the medications that we take for swelling are potassium depleting medications. Some physicians will write a RX for a potassium supplement. Other good sources of potassium are bananas, potatoes, and tomatoes. When I start getting an increase in muscle cramping, I try to increase my intake of these foods. You need to take the right amount of potassium, because of the decreased filtering properties with liver disease, it is much easier to develope a toxic level of medications, etc. Thanks, Joan in Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 Sorry to hear that Ama, but Im glad Im not alone. Do you know what else is a good source of potassium ? I have to be in the mood to eat bananas.. Ive been using liquid K under my eyes, but nothing.. O-well, I'll just be a hermit Take care, Lydia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 Joan, my potassium level is 4.0..Do you know what that means ? Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 In a message dated 2/6/01 4:07:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, Kaytarot@... writes: All I know is that he said I was very low, and in the mornings, if I dont eat anything by noon, I get faint, feel sick, get real shakey and get hot and cold sweats Try eating a banana or two (good for potassium) early in the morning and save yourself the grief. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 I havent had my blood sugar checked, but its something I will ask my doctor to check. In two weeks is my appointment. Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 I have dark bags under my eyes as well. Ive been wondering the same thing.I look like a ghost. My potassium is low as well,. I now try to eat two bananas a day. Natural potassium will be broken down better than the capsuls.. I readd on the dark circles and read that is caused my too much pigmimtation being released in that area. Ive been going through a lot of cover up sticks,.lol. Cold ice compacts seem to help a little bit but its not a pemenet help. Ama [ ] potassium >I was wondering if anyone knew the importance of potassium on the liver. I >cant seem to keep potassium in my body. >Also, 3-4 years back, my doctor said to never take Tylenol, >Ibuprofen and Alieve . Its bad for the liver and they share a common >ingredient. Thats just what he told me. >Any thoughts on the potassium ? >Also, this is un-liver related, but does anyone have any ideas on how to rid >the dark bags from under the eyes ? >Its making me look older and I dont like that. LOL >Thanks, >Kay > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 yeah, citris fruits, green vegtables, whole grains,nuts,cados,dried fruits, tomatoes, potatoes,. Potassium is mostly derived from fruits. Becarfeul on the supplements because it is easy to overdo it, and overdose can cause nasue,dirreah,seriouse cardiac arythmias and they can reslut in sudden death. Im trying an experiment on my eyes to see if it works, im rubbing vitamin e oil on them, just started this three days ago, so wont know for a while. Ama Re: [ ] potassium >Sorry to hear that Ama, but Im glad Im not alone. Do you know what else is a >good source of potassium ? I have to be in the mood to eat bananas.. Ive been >using liquid K under my eyes, but nothing.. O-well, I'll just be a hermit >Take care, >Lydia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 My lab sheet shows normal range for potassium being from 3.5 to 5.0 mine is just under at 3.4 Ama Re: [ ] potassium >Joan, my potassium level is 4.0..Do you know what that means ? >Kay > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 have you had your blood sugar checked? I have symptoms like that from low blood sugar. Re: [ ] potassiumIn a message dated 2/6/01 4:07:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, Kaytarot@... writes: All I know is that he said I was very low, and in the mornings, if I dont eat anything by noon, I get faint, feel sick, get real shakey and get hot and cold sweatsTry eating a banana or two (good for potassium) early in the morning and save yourself the grief. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 Kaytarot@... wrote: > Joan, my potassium level is 4.0..Do you know what that means ? > Kay > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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