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a,

For some people, food does make a difference. I suspect the Pizza is either

the tomato paste, or the yeast. For me, tomato paste does it. Actually, foods

high in acid get me. The only way you can tell is by trying foods by

themselves and seeing what creates a flare, and what doesn't.

In the morning, take a hot shower. Don't push your joints to do too much

until they are ready. The worst damage is done when we are in a flare and we

ignore our pain. Believe it or not, that pain is something you will learn to

listen to and it will regulate how much you will be able to do. When you are

not in pain, you will do what you can, but within limit so that you don't

create a flare. It is like walking on a tight rope. You have to learn your

own technique or you will fall off. When you do fall off, we will be right

here to catch you.

Hope this helps,

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In a message dated 2/21/01 2:56:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mquiltn@... writes:

<< Hi,

Thanks for all the emails in response to my post " just diagnosed " .

I would like to give you a bit more information about my symptoms and

would like to hear your stories and how it has effected your life. I

am getting a bit worried that this will really effect my life.

I am 37yrs old. a few months ago my left hand(thank god I am right

handed) started to feel stiff and my middle finger is always swallon

and the knuckle is enlarged. I can no longer make a fist or wear my

wedding ring. My right one sometimes gives me trouble, especially if

I do too much typing or crafts. My feet sometimes feel like...well

walking on legos in the morning. and my knees somtimes feel stiff.

I have heard that diet is a good way to control flare ups. What type

of foods do you notice cause more problems than others. For me when I

eat pizza I am hurting in the morning, not sure what in the pizza is

causing it.

Thanks in advance for your support,

a in OR >>

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Judy,

Thanks for the response. This is all new to me and I have so many

questions. I am glad I found this group.

a

> a,

>

> For some people, food does make a difference. I suspect the Pizza is

either

> the tomato paste, or the yeast. For me, tomato paste does it.

Actually, foods

> high in acid get me. The only way you can tell is by trying foods by

> themselves and seeing what creates a flare, and what doesn't.

>

> In the morning, take a hot shower. Don't push your joints to do too

much

> until they are ready. The worst damage is done when we are in a

flare and we

> ignore our pain. Believe it or not, that pain is something you will

learn to

> listen to and it will regulate how much you will be able to do. When

you are

> not in pain, you will do what you can, but within limit so that you

don't

> create a flare. It is like walking on a tight rope. You have to

learn your

> own technique or you will fall off. When you do fall off, we will be

right

> here to catch you.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Notes

>

> In a message dated 2/21/01 2:56:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> mquiltn@p... writes:

>

> << Hi,

> Thanks for all the emails in response to my post " just diagnosed " .

>

> I would like to give you a bit more information about my symptoms

and

> would like to hear your stories and how it has effected your life.

I

> am getting a bit worried that this will really effect my life.

>

> I am 37yrs old. a few months ago my left hand(thank god I am right

> handed) started to feel stiff and my middle finger is always

swallon

> and the knuckle is enlarged. I can no longer make a fist or wear my

> wedding ring. My right one sometimes gives me trouble, especially

if

> I do too much typing or crafts. My feet sometimes feel like...well

> walking on legos in the morning. and my knees somtimes feel stiff.

>

> I have heard that diet is a good way to control flare ups. What

type

> of foods do you notice cause more problems than others. For me when

I

> eat pizza I am hurting in the morning, not sure what in the pizza

is

> causing it.

>

> Thanks in advance for your support,

> a in OR >>

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At 10:59 PM 2/22/01, <mquiltn@...> wrote:

> >

> > I am 37yrs old. a few months ago my left hand(thank god I am right

> > handed) started to feel stiff and my middle finger is always swallon

> > and the knuckle is enlarged. I can no longer make a fist or wear my

> > wedding ring. My right one sometimes gives me trouble, especially if

> > I do too much typing or crafts. My feet sometimes feel like...well

> > walking on legos in the morning. and my knees somtimes feel stiff.

> >

> a in OR

Hi a in OR, this is in IL,

Your symptoms sound a lot like mine. I was diagnosed in November of last

year with RA. I am 47 years old and lost my job of 6 plus years last July

1. I had been remodeling my basement last spring on Saturdays. Every few

weeks I would get a bad pain in my wrist or shoulder. It hurt really bad

like a sprain, and would wake me up, and keep me up that night. Then the

next morning it would be fine. This went on for a couple of months. My

regular doctor didn't have a clue. He said something about possibly a

inflammatory, once and a while something or other for no reason, and then

after a few months it would be gone. I thought this must be what I had

because it seemed to stop for a good three months. Then late last July it

came back in one wrist, then the other, then both - all in one week. One

morning in August I woke up and said to my wife Celine, " Remember all those

pains I would be getting now and then that felt like sprains and hurt so

bad? Well now I feel them all at once! "

I had also been to two podiatrists because the balls of my feet were

hurting and I had a toenail fungus that was deforming one nail and I

thought maybe it was getting ingrown and causing some sort of infection in

my right foot, which also was a little puffy. Both guys gave me medicine

for the fungus. One podiatrist took three xrays of my right foot because

he said the pain I experienced while he was examining my toes, etc. seemed

to indicate a problem with the joints - however they looked normal. (I have

since found out that RA in the early stage has yet to cause joint damage

which explains WHY the xrays looked normal!). I am just surprised that

neither one of these guys suspected the possibility of early stage RA.

The ring finger of my left hand became swollen and I had to remove my

wedding ring, just like you. The middle finger of my right hand is also

swollen and the finger is bending in. It slowly became increasingly more

painful in my fingers, hands, wrists, shoulders, elbows, and knees. My

doctor suspected some type of poly arthritis, but I didn't have (nor do I

now), the classic symptom which is severe stiffness and pain upon awakening

in the morning which lasts a good two hours. He sent me for numerous blood

tests all of which came back negative except the one for rheumatoid

factor. Now realize that all people with a positive on a rheumatoid factor

test do not have or will get arthritis, On the other hand, those with a

negative on the test are not necessarily guaranteed being free of it

either. So he still had nothing conclusive. He did notice what he called

a RUB in my heart and sent me for an echocardiogram which proved his

suspicion which was that I have pericarditis which is fluid accumulating in

the sac surrounding the heart. He put me in the hospital for a couple of

days, not for the pericarditis, but because he wanted to start me on a

steroid medication called Prednisone which would screw up my blood sugar as

I have type two diabetes. This means I don't have to normally inject

insulin but now as long as I am taking the Prednisone I do have to inject

insulin. He wanted me in the hospital so that the nurses could monitor my

blood sugar and teach me how to inject myself.

He sent me to a rheumatologist in Rockford, Illinois which is about 85

miles north of here (I am in what's called north central Illinois, about

100 miles southwest of Chicago and 60 miles northeast of Peoria). The

rheumatologist did some more blood tests and said I have RA. Like you, I

also cannot make a fist though the rheumatologist sent me to a local

physical therapist for my hands recently, which are the worst, and now I

have some exercises I do which allow me to make a fist though my index and

middle fingers don't want to cooperate. I also get pain in my wrists from

typing which means I can only type in spurts. It hurts even more to write,

though, in the back of my right hand.

My advice is " get thee to a rheumatologist " as they are the experts. You

may need a referral from you GP doctor to satisfy your insurance company

though. You need to treat RA on two fronts - with NSAIDS and DMARDS. One

helps the swelling and pain, the other attempts to slow the progression of

the disease - I can never remember which is which. There is no cure for

RA, sorry. It can also make you tired at times or even depressed.

Anyway, you need to get some sort of definite diagnosis so that a treatment

program can be started. If you have any more questions I would be happy to

at least share my own experiences. There are others on this list who have

tons of medical and practical information. There are good people here and

they have helped me quite a bit since I joined only a few months ago - and

they're nice, too!

Good Luck and Welcome!

/Celine Kossart

kozys@...

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Tery: Read your post. I don't have signs of cataracts yet (that I know of)

though my vision is shot. My dad had laser surgery on both of his eyes and

after wearing glasses all his life, his vision was great and didn't need them

and he was 80 at the time!. From what I understand it is painless and

usually produces good results. Ask your opth for some pamplets and search

the net. Keep your chin up. Look on the bright side, you will probably see

better than most of us....

Jan

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Dear Tery:

Hi Tery, here. I had cataracts too. I have had them about 10 years

now. I have not had the surgery though because the Doctor I see said they

are not ripe enough yet. My eyesight is not good either. Just for reading

though. I use just magnifier glasses since my eyes change at times it is

rediculous to spend a 100 dollars on glasses from the Doctor every time. I

have been doing ok with them though. If you just discovered you have

cataracts I doubt if you need surgery yet. I would get a second or third

opinions before having the surgery so soon. How are your eyes for distance.

Don't forget as we age our eyes change too and sometimes it is not even from

the cataracts.

Check it out further before getting zapped too soon. I have been doing well

for 10 years and I'm not having it done until I have to.

Don't let this get you down, please. You always help everyone else just take

it slow. You will be okay. You are a strong person.

You hae helped me a lot.

Sincerely, Colletti

Anjillah@...

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Tery,

When you find those return lines, please direct us to them. I know how scary it

is to have your eyesight affected. I am in the same boat, but don't think I

have cataracts. I think it may be the Enbrel. I haven't had any cataract

surgery, but I know a few people that did and they had no problems and the

surgery was a success. Has your doctor indicated if the study drug could be

responsible for the cataracts? I don't blame you for dropping out of the

study, but aren't you getting good results from it? Even if you are, it's not

worth risking your sight if it could be from the study drug. I'm sorry you

have to go through this, and I hope your appointment gives you answers. I'll

see what I can dig up on the net as far as cataract surgery.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: tpeppergirl@...

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:36 AM

Subject: [ ] Need Info

Hi everyone. I'm really feeling down lately. I go in a few minutes to see my

study nurse and my RD. I am thinking about dropping out of the study.

The reason for my post is yesterday I went to the eye doc. He is a specialist

in Opthalmology. I knew that I had a small cataract on my left eye. I was told

this last year, anyway I thought I needed new glasses because my eyesight is

getting very bad and it just kinda came on very sudden. I now have cataract's

on both of my eyes. He said they were external - meaning he says no doubt they

are compliments of the predisone.

I am totally freaked out. I'm 41 years old and need surgery on both of my

eyes. Yes, I knew this was one of the side affects of predisone, but of course

it wasn't going to happen to me :).

Anyway, this DR I went to still does lens replacements. In talking with

others here at work I found out that that isn't done much any more. That laser

is just and they just kinda zap them away.

Has anyone here had cataract's and had them removed?

I'm getting depressed and don't know what I want to do, but I do know that I'm

sick of all of this mess and I want to find the return line and give all this

crap back. Thanks for listening. Tery - FL

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What is happening here is criminal. It is injustice to humans.

My reply.

Subj: Re: Need info 

Date: 1/30/2003 3:23:03 PM Central Standard Time

From: KENHMOULTON

KBinck@...

January 30, 2003

Binck

CC: Senator Rob O' Leary

,

I want to thank you for responding to my e-mail about the situation of our home and how we were robbed and our rights were denied. I am glad we were able to talk on the phone about it this afternoon.

As I stated, we have been robbed by those that care nothing about decency, the law, people's property or civil rights. They thumb their nose at authority and the Law and I will not let them get away with that. My family are Americans and have rights!

As I stated, in spite of my criminal complaint to the Barnstable Police of breaking and entering and theft of over 8 thousand dollars, they never wrote a report. Under state law aren't they required to write a report? Barnstable wouldn't let the Police officer that investigated talk to our insurance company. What are they hiding?

As I also stated, you must remember that in 1993, Barnstable building Inspector Bearse stated during questioning by Barnstable police Detective that he knew of substandard construction with the home and still gave a certificate of occupancy for the bank. By stating this, I believe he was under oath, he admitted to Bank Fraud and Detective and the Barnstable Police did NOTHING! Of course, the investigation was for a complaint that he tried to extort money, while performing duties for the town as their employee, from my Wife, Virginia.

Another issue I raised was whether the owner stated on their bank loan application that the home was to be occupied by them. If they did, they lied. As the owners have stated to our insurance company, they are renting it and are illegally using our belongings. This would be lying on a bank application to a bank licensed by the state and federal government. Are the state bank auditors and regulators going to investigate?

Another issue was concerning the new or improved septic system installed by the new owners or bank. Who inspected the work? Did the town or state send their inspectors while they always refused to send them for our many health and safety requests? If they did, is this not discrimination and a conspiracy?

Of course the State did have their chief building Inspector Tom and his state team inspect our home (pre-mold). He inspected in 1993 and has never written a report of his findings. He told us the home should be condemned and that the town had defrauded us. He called the towns' unsigned building permit the "smoking gun" against the town. He said that was illegal.

I have requested Public Records from several Barnstable departments and only one replied and the others ignored me. This request was also sent to the Town Manager, attorney and Councilors. I have filed a complaint with the Secretary of State. Barnstable has a documented history of ignoring my FOI requests over the years. Do they ignore everybody or just discriminate against me and my family?

In regards to the house being rented, I asked you to have Rob contact the State Public Health Department. They ignored our requests for help when we lived their and suffered from the Toxic Mold. I want them to see if Toxic Mold is still present and if it is they must condemn the house and remove all in it.

If there is a family renting the house and their are children in the house, I asked to have Rob contact the State Child Services and have them remove the children and charge the people renting the house with child endangerment among other things.

In regards to your questions about us, we would like the State of Massachusetts to finally become involved in this charade that has been played upon us for too long. Not only have the banks and lawyers been involved, so has Barnstable and several state officials. These people must all learn the lesson that none of them are above the law. They must also learn that none of them can hide just because they are the government or work for the government.

In closing, according to all of the experts that we had inspect our home for the Toxic Mold, none from Barnstable or the State would come, all said it would take months to try and correct. They stated the house would have to be torn down and rebuilt with new materials.

This has not happened and there is no way the Toxic Mold was removed before it was rented. The bank and new owner all knew of the Toxic Mold and illegal construction issues. Again, all of this information is available in Barnstable and Massachusetts Public Records.

Sincerely yours,

Ken Moulton

580-581-1657

CC: Governor Romney

         Secretary of the Commonwealth

Ken,

I tried to call, but your phone is busy. What is the status of your situation at this point? Have you contacted Legal Services about getting a lawyer?

_________ Binck Legislative Aide Office of Senator A. O'Leary State House, Room 416A Boston, MA 02133 Tel: (617) 722-1570 Fax: (617) 722-1271

-----Original Message-----From: KENHMOULTON@... [mailto:KENHMOULTON@...]Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:54 AMBinck, (SEN); O'Leary, (SEN)Subject: Fwd: Need infoWe were never served and they had to state under oath that we were. We are getting lawyers to sue for fraud, theft, breaking and entering and civil rights. Barnstable is part of this and it has nothing to do with Toxic Mold and the laws do not protect them from prosecution.Ken Moulton

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Hello

I am new to the group. I don't have ra but my adopted sister does.

I am tring to find out as much info as I can about ra and what meds

work the best. She was diagnosed 1 week ago. she is only 17 yrs

old. the doctors also found crystalaztion on her lungs. unknown if

she also has lupus. we did a medical history on her bialogical

parents and found out that her dad had ra and tb. she took care of

her father during his last years. so there is a chance that she

contracted the tb but is not contagious. All of this is new to us we

need help and any info we can get. So will some one please help. I

am scared for her and worried. The doctors think they have caught it

soon so hopefully little damage has be done so far.

what can we expect in the future with ra so that we can be prepared?

thanks

jo

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Thanks for being concerned about your sister and trying to get enough information to help her. The site I like best for general information is http://arthritisinsight.com/ but there are a lot of other good ones. She should be seeing a rheumatologist because they are best trained to treat problems with joints. Also don't be afraid of the consequences of RA. Until recently (perhaps the last 10 years) RA often resulted in severe problems, sometimes being in a wheel chair. Now with early detection and aggressive treatment most people with RA can lead near-normal lives. That is particularly true within the past three or so years with the advent of biological medicines for RA.

I've only had RA for about 2 1/2 years but I have located quite a bit of information about things. I will be glad to answer whatever questions I can. My e-mail is hvantuyl@... and put in the subject line something like RA Questions so I don't throw it away with the spam.

Good luck and God bless.

----- Original Message -----

From: jo18chan

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:26 AM

Subject: need info

HelloI am new to the group. I don't have ra but my adopted sister does.I am tring to find out as much info as I can about ra and what meds work the best. She was diagnosed 1 week ago. she is only 17 yrs old. the doctors also found crystalaztion on her lungs. unknown if she also has lupus. we did a medical history on her bialogical parents and found out that her dad had ra and tb. she took care of her father during his last years. so there is a chance that she contracted the tb but is not contagious. All of this is new to us we need help and any info we can get. So will some one please help. I am scared for her and worried. The doctors think they have caught it soon so hopefully little damage has be done so far. what can we expect in the future with ra so that we can be prepared?thanks jo

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Give it some time to heal. Then, if you look worse than you did before

implants, we can make some suggestions on excellent doctors, hopefully as

close to you as possible.

Lynda

At 02:39 PM 7/1/2004, you wrote:

>had implants put in april 20 first week went great . by week 2 was

>fainting sweating, sick to my stoach ,had diarea. pink dots pop up

>all over me .shaking tingling in my hands leg would go weak. anyone

>had these symptoms. i had my implants taken out 48 hours later all

>symptoms disappeared. also my breast look funny does the skin go back

>or do i need some work done if so what can a doctor do theres little

>to lift

>

>

>

>

>

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My personal opinion is to see a really fabulous PS if it bothers you

a ton and see one that is considered artistic. There is allot that

can be done when the PS is an artist that has vision and skills,

combined with the right tools. I know that I had barely anything at

all to lift either, but somehome Dr Feng made something out of my

skin sacks, really that was all I had. They are very small, but at

least they are poiting upwards and perky and round and very

symetrical. I feel that there are other PS's out there with the great

skills too besides Dr Feng if you cannot get to her, but the problem

with many is they will often recomend implants. EEK! Anyhow it sounds

like it is still early in the process so I would wait at least 6-12

months to do any further surgery it is amazing how things can change

and fluff etc. It really depends too on if you were saggy to start,

if so then your chances or changing much are not so good.

You were a smart cookie to get those bombs out so fast! I am in awe

of you!

YEAH

hugs

In , " ness19712001 " <yagoob94@a...>

wrote:

> had implants put in april 20 first week went great . by week 2 was

> fainting sweating, sick to my stoach ,had diarea. pink dots pop up

> all over me .shaking tingling in my hands leg would go weak. anyone

> had these symptoms. i had my implants taken out 48 hours later all

> symptoms disappeared. also my breast look funny does the skin go

back

> or do i need some work done if so what can a doctor do theres

little

> to lift

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also some one told me that if you use boorateen the laundry stuff with some

water that works to get rid of the mold spores etc ,,, also what about cedar

blocks,???? my aund said they uses canphor on basment walls years ago and no

mold????/ well looking for ans.... rose

Rhonda <rhondaleokitty@...> wrote: I learned about the vinegar/peroxide

disinfectant on a bunny group

and have been using this for countertops and litterbox cleaning ETC

but never thought about for veggies and fruits too. Cool! Will

start spraying them too. I have spray bottles in every room with

vinegar and a few with peroxide. I learned these together work great

for stain removal on carpets too. People always look at my cart at

store when full of greens for bunnies and gallons of white vinegar.

When they ask what I'm doing with all that vinegar, I say drink it.:P

then say natural disinfectant!

Rhonda

>

> >>On Behalf Of Christ

> No, but maybe I will give it a try. Most vitimans seem to do

nothing

> for me at best. I hate swallowing pills. I try to eat a ballanced

> diet but that is a problem in it's self becuase I seem to react to

> food a lot of the time. I won't eat carrots or celory or lettuce

that has

> been in my fridge

> more than four or five days becuase I am starting to think that the

> slim or bacteria that grows on produce makes me sick.

> After ten years of being sick I have come to the conclusion that

the

> things I react to are almost always organism's. Dust, Dust mites,

> mold, bacteria.>>>>

>

>

> Hi :

> I'm getting ready to go to my weekly organic vegetable co-op. What

I've

> learned to do is wash and prepare my vegetables when I come home

and they

> last easily in the refrigerator for over a week and don't grow the

nasties.

> Carrots have been a problem and with my " sniffer " can often smell

mold on

> the carrots so I avoid them. " Here's what I do:

>

> 1. Rinse them well with water and remove any debris.

>

> 2. Spray them with plain white vinegar (the real vinegar, not

synthetic)

> and drug store hydrogen peroxide. I let that sit for a few minutes

and then

> rinse off and give the root veges a good scrubbing. It doesn't

matter

> which you use first - you can spray with the vinegar then the

hydrogen

> peroxide, or with the hydrogen peroxide followed by the vinegar.

You won't

> get any lingering taste of vinegar or hydrogen peroxide, and

neither is

> toxic to you if a small amount remains on the produce. Or you can

soak them

> in a sink full of water and about 4-8 ounces of this mixture for 30

minutes

> if you want. http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/21/vinegar.htm

>

> 3. Once vegetables are picked they begin to lose nutrients. While

there is

> no way to avoid this loss--other than growing the vegetables

yourself and

> eating them right from the vine--you can easily increase the

staying power

> of your vegetables by storing them properly.

> The key is to keep as much air away from the vegetables as possible

once you

> get them home. To do this, simply squeeze as much air as you can

out of the

> bag that holds the vegetables and then seal it. The bag should look

like it

> is vacuum-packed. I do this by holding the bag against my chest and

running

> my arm over the bottom of the bag to the top, which bleeds the air

out of

> the bag. This will double or triple the normal storage life of the

> vegetables.

>

> It's more work than just putting the vegetables into the

refrigerator;

> however I've found the produce last longer, taste better and don't

> deteriorate as quickly.

>

> PS: If you don't like pills, you can purchase quality milk thistle

seeds by

> the pound, grind them well in a coffee grinder and take 1

tablespoon 3 times

> a day. That's what I do. The standardized extracts of milk

thistle are

> needed for acute poisonings and acute toxicity; however for a

regular,

> gentle liver care the ground seeds work very well. Another good

herb to

> consider are schizandra berries in a tincture form.

>

> Rosie

>

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If you are chemcially sensitive the cedar and camphor will knock you on

your arse.....

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, r tk wrote:

> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 10:12:02 -0800 (PST)

> From: r tk <rose_t_koubek@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: [] need info

>

> also some one told me that if you use boorateen the laundry stuff with some

water that works to get rid of the mold spores etc ,,, also what about cedar

blocks,???? my aund said they uses canphor on basment walls years ago and no

mold????/ well looking for ans.... rose

>

> Rhonda <rhondaleokitty@...> wrote: I learned about the

vinegar/peroxide disinfectant on a bunny group

> and have been using this for countertops and litterbox cleaning ETC

> but never thought about for veggies and fruits too. Cool! Will

> start spraying them too. I have spray bottles in every room with

> vinegar and a few with peroxide. I learned these together work great

> for stain removal on carpets too. People always look at my cart at

> store when full of greens for bunnies and gallons of white vinegar.

> When they ask what I'm doing with all that vinegar, I say drink it.:P

> then say natural disinfectant!

>

> Rhonda

>

>

>

>

>>

>>>> On Behalf Of Christ

>> No, but maybe I will give it a try. Most vitimans seem to do

> nothing

>> for me at best. I hate swallowing pills. I try to eat a ballanced

>> diet but that is a problem in it's self becuase I seem to react to

>> food a lot of the time. I won't eat carrots or celory or lettuce

> that has

>> been in my fridge

>> more than four or five days becuase I am starting to think that the

>> slim or bacteria that grows on produce makes me sick.

>> After ten years of being sick I have come to the conclusion that

> the

>> things I react to are almost always organism's. Dust, Dust mites,

>> mold, bacteria.>>>>

>>

>>

>> Hi :

>> I'm getting ready to go to my weekly organic vegetable co-op. What

> I've

>> learned to do is wash and prepare my vegetables when I come home

> and they

>> last easily in the refrigerator for over a week and don't grow the

> nasties.

>> Carrots have been a problem and with my " sniffer " can often smell

> mold on

>> the carrots so I avoid them. " Here's what I do:

>>

>> 1. Rinse them well with water and remove any debris.

>>

>> 2. Spray them with plain white vinegar (the real vinegar, not

> synthetic)

>> and drug store hydrogen peroxide. I let that sit for a few minutes

> and then

>> rinse off and give the root veges a good scrubbing. It doesn't

> matter

>> which you use first - you can spray with the vinegar then the

> hydrogen

>> peroxide, or with the hydrogen peroxide followed by the vinegar.

> You won't

>> get any lingering taste of vinegar or hydrogen peroxide, and

> neither is

>> toxic to you if a small amount remains on the produce. Or you can

> soak them

>> in a sink full of water and about 4-8 ounces of this mixture for 30

> minutes

>> if you want. http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/21/vinegar.htm

>>

>> 3. Once vegetables are picked they begin to lose nutrients. While

> there is

>> no way to avoid this loss--other than growing the vegetables

> yourself and

>> eating them right from the vine--you can easily increase the

> staying power

>> of your vegetables by storing them properly.

>> The key is to keep as much air away from the vegetables as possible

> once you

>> get them home. To do this, simply squeeze as much air as you can

> out of the

>> bag that holds the vegetables and then seal it. The bag should look

> like it

>> is vacuum-packed. I do this by holding the bag against my chest and

> running

>> my arm over the bottom of the bag to the top, which bleeds the air

> out of

>> the bag. This will double or triple the normal storage life of the

>> vegetables.

>>

>> It's more work than just putting the vegetables into the

> refrigerator;

>> however I've found the produce last longer, taste better and don't

>> deteriorate as quickly.

>>

>> PS: If you don't like pills, you can purchase quality milk thistle

> seeds by

>> the pound, grind them well in a coffee grinder and take 1

> tablespoon 3 times

>> a day. That's what I do. The standardized extracts of milk

> thistle are

>> needed for acute poisonings and acute toxicity; however for a

> regular,

>> gentle liver care the ground seeds work very well. Another good

> herb to

>> consider are schizandra berries in a tincture form.

>>

>> Rosie

>>

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You mean Borax right? That is what I'm using in my laundry to wash

things hoping it it killing comething. Before all this spore crap, I

put vinegar in my towels/sheets wash to kill off nasties. Learned

that from bunnies as far as washing their blanket/towels they spray

to mark sometimes. Removes the urine odor along with nasties. I

never put in clothes wash b/c I didn't know if would fade colors or

not b/c acidic. So maby some of my stuff got disinfected along the

way from vinegar but not my clothes.

I really wish I could have found all this mold before I turned on the

heat again b/c it really changed me BAD. Gross and to think of the

SOUR smell I've smelled think last 3 years wondering what. I still

do not know last year when I called and left voicemails about my

plenum why nobody called me back whick I guess really is a good thing

sort of b/c if I had replaced the whole unit and ducts, would have

just got contaminated again and waste of money. I just didn't need a

large dose of toxins after getting somewhat better from LDN but

realize now I need CSM etc to really get rid of toxins.

My sister came by my work today with a friend and I told her some

about mold and she also had mold in a home she use to live in but she

moved after divorce and the hubby stayed. He is dying right now from

some type of heart condition. And the girl said now she thinks it is

from that and she has problems too but she didn't go into detail.

She said she didn't take much from the house with her and clothes

size changed so doesn't have much clothes items from past. I'll find

out from my sister what type problems she has. People don't realize

how common it is to talk about the mold and their seems to always be

someone that had or has mold in their home. A coworker has it in

bathroom but claims it doesn't do anything to him. Well he walks

around like he is cripple.

Rhonda

> >

> > >>On Behalf Of Christ

> > No, but maybe I will give it a try. Most vitimans seem to do

> nothing

> > for me at best. I hate swallowing pills. I try to eat a ballanced

> > diet but that is a problem in it's self becuase I seem to react to

> > food a lot of the time. I won't eat carrots or celory or

lettuce

> that has

> > been in my fridge

> > more than four or five days becuase I am starting to think that

the

> > slim or bacteria that grows on produce makes me sick.

> > After ten years of being sick I have come to the conclusion that

> the

> > things I react to are almost always organism's. Dust, Dust mites,

> > mold, bacteria.>>>>

> >

> >

> > Hi :

> > I'm getting ready to go to my weekly organic vegetable co-op.

What

> I've

> > learned to do is wash and prepare my vegetables when I come home

> and they

> > last easily in the refrigerator for over a week and don't grow

the

> nasties.

> > Carrots have been a problem and with my " sniffer " can often smell

> mold on

> > the carrots so I avoid them. " Here's what I do:

> >

> > 1. Rinse them well with water and remove any debris.

> >

> > 2. Spray them with plain white vinegar (the real vinegar, not

> synthetic)

> > and drug store hydrogen peroxide. I let that sit for a few

minutes

> and then

> > rinse off and give the root veges a good scrubbing. It doesn't

> matter

> > which you use first - you can spray with the vinegar then the

> hydrogen

> > peroxide, or with the hydrogen peroxide followed by the vinegar.

> You won't

> > get any lingering taste of vinegar or hydrogen peroxide, and

> neither is

> > toxic to you if a small amount remains on the produce. Or you

can

> soak them

> > in a sink full of water and about 4-8 ounces of this mixture for

30

> minutes

> > if you want. http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/21/vinegar.htm

> >

> > 3. Once vegetables are picked they begin to lose nutrients.

While

> there is

> > no way to avoid this loss--other than growing the vegetables

> yourself and

> > eating them right from the vine--you can easily increase the

> staying power

> > of your vegetables by storing them properly.

> > The key is to keep as much air away from the vegetables as

possible

> once you

> > get them home. To do this, simply squeeze as much air as you can

> out of the

> > bag that holds the vegetables and then seal it. The bag should

look

> like it

> > is vacuum-packed. I do this by holding the bag against my chest

and

> running

> > my arm over the bottom of the bag to the top, which bleeds the

air

> out of

> > the bag. This will double or triple the normal storage life of the

> > vegetables.

> >

> > It's more work than just putting the vegetables into the

> refrigerator;

> > however I've found the produce last longer, taste better and don't

> > deteriorate as quickly.

> >

> > PS: If you don't like pills, you can purchase quality milk

thistle

> seeds by

> > the pound, grind them well in a coffee grinder and take 1

> tablespoon 3 times

> > a day. That's what I do. The standardized extracts of milk

> thistle are

> > needed for acute poisonings and acute toxicity; however for a

> regular,

> > gentle liver care the ground seeds work very well. Another good

> herb to

> > consider are schizandra berries in a tincture form.

> >

> > Rosie

> >

>

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