Iron intake

[Guest guest]

Will,

You wrote that we need to watch our intake of iron. That many of us have

iron levels too high.

All during my pregnancies and nursing, they told me that my hemoglobin

levels were nice and

high. They spoke of iron and hemoglobin like they were one in the same. Then

I come to find

out after a recent physical that yes, my hemoglobin levels are fantastic,

but my ferrin (sp?)

levels are low and that I'm somewhat anemic!! What do the 2 levels

(hemoglobin and ferrin)

have to do with each other and why did they keep telling me my iron level

was great when they

only tested the hemoglobin and NOT the ferrin? Any thoughts anyone?

I'd post the exact levels, but I can't seem to find the dr's letter listing

them.( I'd say the dog ate

it, but we don't have a dog.)

Thanks,

Therese

[Guest guest]

I am not Will, but I have low ferritin too. The only helpful info I can give

you is that ferritin is your iron stores, and when low, can effect how you feel,

including energy levels and even cause dizzy spells. HTH

Carol F

Re: Re: Iron intake

*snip*

What do the 2 levels

(hemoglobin and ferrin)

have to do with each other and why did they keep telling me my iron level

was great when they

only tested the hemoglobin and NOT the ferrin? Any thoughts anyone?

*snip*

Thanks,

Therese

[Guest guest]

I'll take a stab at explaining the iron thing. Your hemoglobin is the active

working iron in your blood stream. The ferrin is like the iron stores. this is

what the blood picks up when it needs more iron.

I have this problem too, My hb is normal, but barely hanging in there at the

very lowest normal number 12.0 or a bit lower. One part of a point and I would

be considered low. My iron % stores is 9 or less. They should be 20 to 50. This

is where the anemia really shows.

They keep telling me I am bleeding somewhere but they sure can not find it. They

have checked me up one end and down the other (scopes). Then they try to tell me

it is because of my cancer treatments three years ago or I must have heavy

monthly's (not).

I have been on high doses of iron for nearly two years now and it makes no

difference for me. All they do is make me sick and I get concern that I am

destroying other organs by taking this high dose. It is the highest safe limit

of iron, if I take more it may be toxic to me. I really do not take it much any

longer anyways, If my body is not absorbing it, way take it???

Ferrin, if I remember right has something to do with the weight of the iron? I

know people with high ferrin levels will have a heavier liver as it hold the

excess iron.

I know this may not be much help but like I said, I was only giving it a shot!

Kimi

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[Guest guest]

If you use liquid chlorophyll for iron it is a natural food. Not a man

produced supplement with non organic elements. The minerals need to be

processed through plants to be usable. We have had great results for years.

If you are using iron supplements as I was before, it is necessary to take

with Vit C. A druggist told me that after much misery.

Kimi wrote on Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:05 PM Re: Re: Iron intake

I'll take a stab at explaining the iron thing. Your hemoglobin is the active

working iron in your blood stream. The ferrin is like the iron stores. this

is what the blood picks up when it needs more iron.

I have this problem too, My hb is normal, but barely hanging in there at the

very lowest normal number 12.0 or a bit lower. One part of a point and I

would be considered low. My iron % stores is 9 or less. They should be 20 to

50. This is where the anemia really shows.

They keep telling me I am bleeding somewhere but they sure can not find it.

They have checked me up one end and down the other (scopes). Then they try

to tell me it is because of my cancer treatments three years ago or I must

have heavy monthly's (not).

I have been on high doses of iron for nearly two years now and it makes no

difference for me. All they do is make me sick and I get concern that I am

destroying other organs by taking this high dose. It is the highest safe

limit of iron, if I take more it may be toxic to me. I really do not take it

much any longer anyways, If my body is not absorbing it, way take it???

Ferrin, if I remember right has something to do with the weight of the iron?

I know people with high ferrin levels will have a heavier liver as it hold

the excess iron.

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[Guest guest]

This iron issue is huge and it's obvious that just in our population here at

TFMN we have the

full range from excess iron loading to iron deficiency.

The measurement of iron in the body is obviously quite important and should be

undertaken

before attempting to raise or lower the amount. Unfortunately, like most blood

tests,

measuring hemoglobin and ferritin are only a partial snapshot of the true iron

levels.

Rather than try to explain futher here is one of my favorite position papers on

Iron Loading,

this one from the CDC.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no3/weinberg.htm

This elegant scientific paper explains the range of dangers of excess iron, the

various

sources of excessive iron intake, an array of factors that can either block or

enhance

absorption and then some useful techniques for either raising or lowering the

iron levels in

the body depending upon what's needed. It's an eye-opener.

Will

[Guest guest]

Dear Barb M,

Hallalujah, I read that somewhere, thanks for confirming that I have not

lost my mind.

Just as breast cancer can be estrogen loving, I am sure there are certain

diseases that thrive on iron and I read that about blood cancers. Hope you are

still PCRU and managing to remain free of cold viruses in this cold weather.

xoxox

Lottie