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Thanks to all of you for your responses about my daughters stomach issues.

I think we will work with both her internist and her llmd. I will keep you

posted on how this plays out. Has anyone been on flagyl. The side effects

on the pakcage insert are really terrible, many of them exactly what her

symptoms are now.

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Sure sounds familiar to me. I'm very careful with my diet. Right

now I'm avoiding wheat, whole wheat really gives me gas, and focusing

on vegetables. I can't wait til the summer vegies come on in the

garden. I don't do fruit because of past abx use. What does help is

occasionally using imodium. Kashi bars are good too. My dr.

recommends eating 4-6 times a day, that helps.

Anne

On Jun 23, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Libsak2@... wrote:

> My daughter has had Lyme for 4 years and has been quiet on the list

> because

> she has been feeling decent enough to go on with her life. She has

> done on &

> off antibiotics, cats claw and lots of supplements. Her symptoms were

> basically neurological. For the past 4 weeks she has had some

> stomach distress.

> Lots of pains in the lower area, gas, occasionally diarrhea.

> Finally went

> for a check up. Her internist (not her llmd) took lots of blood and

> a stool

> sample. He wants her to go on Flagyl first and if she is not

> better, to have

> a CT scan and then a colonoscopy. She hasn't started the flagly

> because she

> heard it has lots of side effects.

> I am wondering if any of this could be Lyme. She has not been on

> antibiotics for a year and has stopped all supplements she was

> taking. Any thoughts

> on this would be appreciated.

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Sure, why not, poke, prod, and go through a bunch of useless tests, after all

your doctor has a big mortgage to pay. This way they get to give you the

diagnosis of not-lyme. By the way, Crohn's disease is lyme. Kurt

RLeach2899@... wrote: She could easily have something else,

colitis, irritable bowel, Crohn's

disease, etc. The colonoscopy, CT scan and stool tests sound like a good idea.

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here are some of my thoughts:

1. there is nothing that i know of that says a person with lymes cant

develop other problems in addition to lymes.

2. i think one has to be careful about not taking a treatment based

*soley* (only?) upon the potential of experiencing side effects.

first more people dont experience side effects then do (in general).

second the decision should incorporate determining the risks of taking

it vs. the risks of *not* taking it. (for example what if taking it

would cure her problem whereas in not taking it, it will continue to

worsen or lead to other problems ?) (bowel perforation, blood

infection etc) third, if you really want to get scared, read the

potential side effects of tylenol or aspirin. both are relatively very

safe. yet many, many people die from them every year in the us. in my

opinion, this shouldnt by itself stop most people from knowing they

have very little risk of having problems from taking these.

certainly these are not the only considerations in making the

decision, but are some thoughts.

hth,

cfsguy

My daughter has had Lyme for 4 years and

has been quiet on the list because

> she has been feeling decent enough to go on with her life. She has

done on &

> off antibiotics, cats claw and lots of supplements. Her symptoms were

> basically neurological. For the past 4 weeks she has had some

stomach distress.

> Lots of pains in the lower area, gas, occasionally diarrhea. Finally

went

> for a check up. Her internist (not her llmd) took lots of blood and

a stool

> sample. He wants her to go on Flagyl first and if she is not better,

to have

> a CT scan and then a colonoscopy. She hasn't started the flagly

because she

> heard it has lots of side effects.

> I am wondering if any of this could be Lyme. She has not been on

> antibiotics for a year and has stopped all supplements she was

taking. Any thoughts

> on this would be appreciated.

> Lib

>

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I had a bad root canal, and the dentist prescribed penicillin and

flagyl. I couldn't stop vomiting, I had such a bad reaction. I had

to call someone to walk my dogs.

be well,

Connie

>

> Thanks to all of you for your responses about my daughters stomach

issues.

> I think we will work with both her internist and her llmd. I will

keep you

> posted on how this plays out. Has anyone been on flagyl. The

side effects

> on the pakcage insert are really terrible, many of them exactly

what her

> symptoms are now.

> Lib

>

>

>

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Wow I have to tell ya, this sounds like what I have....celiac

disease. I would make sure she gets tested for that.....blood tests.

Just make sure that if she does get tested she has been eating gluten

for last 6 weeks or the tests will show up negative. This disease is

more common than people think. Statistics show 1 out of 122 people

have it. After following a gluten free diet my abdominal/diarrhea

symptoms subsided.

>

> My daughter has had Lyme for 4 years and has been quiet on the list

because

> she has been feeling decent enough to go on with her life. She has

done on &

> off antibiotics, cats claw and lots of supplements. Her symptoms

were

> basically neurological. For the past 4 weeks she has had some

stomach distress.

> Lots of pains in the lower area, gas, occasionally diarrhea.

Finally went

> for a check up. Her internist (not her llmd) took lots of blood

and a stool

> sample. He wants her to go on Flagyl first and if she is not

better, to have

> a CT scan and then a colonoscopy. She hasn't started the flagly

because she

> heard it has lots of side effects.

> I am wondering if any of this could be Lyme. She has not been on

> antibiotics for a year and has stopped all supplements she was

taking. Any thoughts

> on this would be appreciated.

> Lib

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

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My son is the same way. He's in some degree of pain practically every day. We had an upper GI series done which showed he had moderate reflux so we try to avoid foods that cause problems, but I don't think the reflux has anything to do with the pain around his belly button. It's horrible. I also had him tested for common food allergies but he had zero reaction to any of the "biggies" (milk, wheat, peanuts, soy).

Has anyone ever tried probiotics? What about enzymes? I would like to take a more traditional approach but going to "regular" doctors doesn't seem to be finding any answers for us.

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Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj

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I'm so sorry he's in so much pain. Sad. We do Probiotics, DMG and fish oil. Il have all my "pill-swallowing" kids take them. You can google for what they're for and get them at any natural food story. They just sounded like good things to get into my kids......let alone the ones with issues. Robin MacAllister <smacalli@...> wrote: My son is the same way. He's in some degree of pain practically every day. We had an upper GI series done which showed he had moderate reflux so we try to avoid foods that cause problems, but I don't think the reflux has anything to do with the pain around his belly button. It's horrible. I also had him tested for common food allergies but he had zero reaction to any of the "biggies" (milk, wheat, peanuts, soy). Has anyone ever tried probiotics? What about enzymes? I would like to take a more traditional approach but going to "regular" doctors doesn't seem to be finding any answers for us. ( ) (unknown) Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

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My son is taking probiotics, I can't tell if they are really helping him. He takes liquid maalox lately, he says it clams it down some. I had him on the GFCF diet and it helped him some. The past few weeks he has gone off of it. He has eaten pizza about three different times, and ate ice cream, he paid dearly for those. I think even bread hurts his stomach. My husband, so sweet, used to even make him home made bread but he didn't like it nor the gluten, wheat free breads. There's got to be something out there to help, I feel so bad for my son. I will get his meds changed from Nexium to Prevacid and see if that helps, but I think he used to take that a long time ago. Do your sons also suffer with diarrhea and constipation? And he gets

hemorrhoids bad and wiping so much makes him raw. He told me he prays about it that God will help him. Breaks my heart. pj

My son is the same way. He's in some degree of pain practically every day. We had an upper GI series done which showed he had moderate reflux so we try to avoid foods that cause problems, but I don't think the reflux has anything to do with the pain around his belly button. It's horrible. I also had him tested for common food allergies but he had zero reaction to any of the "biggies" (milk, wheat, peanuts, soy).

Has anyone ever tried probiotics? What about enzymes? I would like to take a more traditional approach but going to "regular" doctors doesn't seem to be finding any answers for us.

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Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj

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Patti! That is so sad...your poor sweet boy. I'll say a prayer for him too!

I know Dylan has "bathroom trouble". Probably more diarrhea than the other. We've entertained a GFCF diet, but we tried for a couple of days and I didn't see a difference. I know I should probably try longer than that, but it is EXPENSIVE and hard to see all three of us doing it, which I really think would only be fair. I bought like three different gluten free snacks and Dylan sort of liked one and wouldn't touch the others. And they probably cost me about $15 total, just for three SNACKS. Ugh.

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Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj

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I brought that up to the doctor years ago, but he said no. He has been procto'd from both ends a couple of times each. I called his primary doctor today and asked if he would order him some prevacid, he did, so we will so if that helps. Yes, please everyone say a prayer for him. We used to cry together cuz he would say he prays to Jesus to help him and he didn't know why he wouldnh't heal him. I would tell him I pray to God and Jesus too, but I don't understand why they haven't answered ours prayers either, I just don't have an answer. I would be so depressed about it. It's hard being a mother and seeing your child in pain and can't help them. I know we are not supposed to question God, I told my mom tonight, "why can't they just have

Aspergers and not the stomach pain"? Or any of the other pains. pj

Could he have a hernia???

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The diet can be expensive, when we have extra monies we will go to this one store that has some foods on the diet. Mostly though I cook from scratch, and a bland diet, I don't use regular flour in anything, nor anything with wheat,gluten, or casien, and almost everything has wheat in it. It is very hard, but once I got the hang of it and saw that my son had less pain I didn't mind. But at first I was so depressed about it cuz I didn't know what to fix and sometimes didn't feel like cooking, but felt sooooooo guilty if he didn't have anything he could eat without hurting his stomach. But since he got off of it and his stomach started hurting worse I am going to put him back on it. Gluten is in a lot of our foods, and this is bad for all of us. It bloates us and

constipates, I read it is like glue in our digestive system but to aspies it's even worse. Sometimes when they have diarrhea, they are really constipated, the liquid goes around the blockage of waste, and thus the diarrhea, with maybe a few little hard pebbles. Why does everything have to be so hard for them huh? pj

Patti! That is so sad...your poor sweet boy. I'll say a prayer for him too!

I know Dylan has "bathroom trouble". Probably more diarrhea than the other. We've entertained a GFCF diet, but we tried for a couple of days and I didn't see a difference. I know I should probably try longer than that, but it is EXPENSIVE and hard to see all three of us doing it, which I really think would only be fair. I bought like three different gluten free snacks and Dylan sort of liked one and wouldn't touch the others. And they probably cost me about $15 total, just for three SNACKS. Ugh.

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Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj

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The diet can be expensive, when we have extra monies we will go to this one store that has some foods on the diet. Mostly though I cook from scratch, and a bland diet, I don't use regular flour in anything, nor anything with wheat,gluten, or casien, and almost everything has wheat in it. It is very hard, but once I got the hang of it and saw that my son had less pain I didn't mind. But at first I was so depressed about it cuz I didn't know what to fix and sometimes didn't feel like cooking, but felt sooooooo guilty if he didn't have anything he could eat without hurting his stomach. But since he got off of it and his stomach started hurting worse I am going to put him back on it. Gluten is in a lot of our foods, and this is bad for all of us. It bloates us and

constipates, I read it is like glue in our digestive system but to aspies it's even worse. Sometimes when they have diarrhea, they are really constipated, the liquid goes around the blockage of waste, and thus the diarrhea, with maybe a few little hard pebbles. Why does everything have to be so hard for them huh? pj

Patti! That is so sad...your poor sweet boy. I'll say a prayer for him too!

I know Dylan has "bathroom trouble". Probably more diarrhea than the other. We've entertained a GFCF diet, but we tried for a couple of days and I didn't see a difference. I know I should probably try longer than that, but it is EXPENSIVE and hard to see all three of us doing it, which I really think would only be fair. I bought like three different gluten free snacks and Dylan sort of liked one and wouldn't touch the others. And they probably cost me about $15 total, just for three SNACKS. Ugh.

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Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj

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The diet can be expensive, when we have extra monies we will go to this one store that has some foods on the diet. Mostly though I cook from scratch, and a bland diet, I don't use regular flour in anything, nor anything with wheat,gluten, or casien, and almost everything has wheat in it. It is very hard, but once I got the hang of it and saw that my son had less pain I didn't mind. But at first I was so depressed about it cuz I didn't know what to fix and sometimes didn't feel like cooking, but felt sooooooo guilty if he didn't have anything he could eat without hurting his stomach. But since he got off of it and his stomach started hurting worse I am going to put him back on it. Gluten is in a lot of our foods, and this is bad for all of us. It bloates us and

constipates, I read it is like glue in our digestive system but to aspies it's even worse. Sometimes when they have diarrhea, they are really constipated, the liquid goes around the blockage of waste, and thus the diarrhea, with maybe a few little hard pebbles. Why does everything have to be so hard for them huh? pj

Patti! That is so sad...your poor sweet boy. I'll say a prayer for him too!

I know Dylan has "bathroom trouble". Probably more diarrhea than the other. We've entertained a GFCF diet, but we tried for a couple of days and I didn't see a difference. I know I should probably try longer than that, but it is EXPENSIVE and hard to see all three of us doing it, which I really think would only be fair. I bought like three different gluten free snacks and Dylan sort of liked one and wouldn't touch the others. And they probably cost me about $15 total, just for three SNACKS. Ugh.

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Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj

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The diet can be expensive, when we have extra monies we will go to this one store that has some foods on the diet. Mostly though I cook from scratch, and a bland diet, I don't use regular flour in anything, nor anything with wheat,gluten, or casien, and almost everything has wheat in it. It is very hard, but once I got the hang of it and saw that my son had less pain I didn't mind. But at first I was so depressed about it cuz I didn't know what to fix and sometimes didn't feel like cooking, but felt sooooooo guilty if he didn't have anything he could eat without hurting his stomach. But since he got off of it and his stomach started hurting worse I am going to put him back on it. Gluten is in a lot of our foods, and this is bad for all of us. It bloates us and

constipates, I read it is like glue in our digestive system but to aspies it's even worse. Sometimes when they have diarrhea, they are really constipated, the liquid goes around the blockage of waste, and thus the diarrhea, with maybe a few little hard pebbles. Why does everything have to be so hard for them huh? pj

Patti! That is so sad...your poor sweet boy. I'll say a prayer for him too!

I know Dylan has "bathroom trouble". Probably more diarrhea than the other. We've entertained a GFCF diet, but we tried for a couple of days and I didn't see a difference. I know I should probably try longer than that, but it is EXPENSIVE and hard to see all three of us doing it, which I really think would only be fair. I bought like three different gluten free snacks and Dylan sort of liked one and wouldn't touch the others. And they probably cost me about $15 total, just for three SNACKS. Ugh.

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Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj

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Could part of the problem be IBS - irritable bowel syndrome? The reason I suggest it is because I have IBS & it has the same symptoms & stress & anxiety make it worse. I have had stomach issued since childhood. I have taken Prilosec for years for reflux, but since recently being diagnosed with IBS I have been put on Librax which has a combination of medicines that calm the intestinal action & help with anxiety. Since I started taking Librax I have much less gas, pain, blotting, & diarrhea. Just a thought since so many of our aspies have anxiety issues.Hugs & Blessings, DonnaSent from my iPhone. On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:17 PM, Patti Journey <pjpoo78363@...> wrote:

The diet can be expensive, when we have extra monies we will go to this one store that has some foods on the diet. Mostly though I cook from scratch, and a bland diet, I don't use regular flour in anything, nor anything with wheat,gluten, or casien, and almost everything has wheat in it. It is very hard, but once I got the hang of it and saw that my son had less pain I didn't mind. But at first I was so depressed about it cuz I didn't know what to fix and sometimes didn't feel like cooking, but felt sooooooo guilty if he didn't have anything he could eat without hurting his stomach. But since he got off of it and his stomach started hurting worse I am going to put him back on it. Gluten is in a lot of our foods, and this is bad for all of us. It bloates us and

constipates, I read it is like glue in our digestive system but to aspies it's even worse. Sometimes when they have diarrhea, they are really constipated, the liquid goes around the blockage of waste, and thus the diarrhea, with maybe a few little hard pebbles. Why does everything have to be so hard for them huh? pj

Patti! That is so sad...your poor sweet boy. I'll say a prayer for him too!

I know Dylan has "bathroom trouble". Probably more diarrhea than the other. We've entertained a GFCF diet, but we tried for a couple of days and I didn't see a difference. I know I should probably try longer than that, but it is EXPENSIVE and hard to see all three of us doing it, which I really think would only be fair. I bought like three different gluten free snacks and Dylan sort of liked one and wouldn't touch the others. And they probably cost me about $15 total, just for three SNACKS. Ugh.

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Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but hasn't helped. pj

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My daughter has been on the diet for 2 years. It takes awhile to

learn what the kids like and then months later they like stuff they

did not like before. Currently my daughter eats the pancakes from

Trader Joe's, peanut butter bar from Envirokids (Whole Foods and my

local grocery store), sandwiches with bread from Kinnikinnick (online

and some Whole Foods), crackers from Glutino (only online), cookies

from Kinnikinnick, pizza from Kinnikinnick with soy cheese from Whole

Foods, rice pasta (Tinkyata brand) from healthfood stores, and soy

ice cream from my local grocery store. I spend more than I would if

she was not gfcf but it is worth it. The key is to buy the best

tasting stuff out there. Some of the foods I listed taste pretty

good. I made cupcakes for my daughter's Valentine party yesterday

and no one could tell they were gfcf. My daughter now is able to eat

real dinners instead of just hot dogs and french fries. So the cost

is going down as I can make just one dinner and sub gfcf stuff for

her (rice pasta, soy cheese, etc).

>

> The diet can be expensive, when we have extra monies we will go to

this one store that has some foods on the diet. Mostly though I cook

from scratch, and a bland diet, I don't use regular flour in

anything, nor anything with wheat,gluten, or casien, and almost

everything has wheat in it. It is very hard, but once I got the hang

of it and saw that my son had less pain I didn't mind. But at first

I was so depressed about it cuz I didn't know what to fix and

sometimes didn't feel like cooking, but felt sooooooo guilty if he

didn't have anything he could eat without hurting his stomach. But

since he got off of it and his stomach started hurting worse I am

going to put him back on it. Gluten is in a lot of our foods, and

this is bad for all of us. It bloates us and constipates, I read it

is like glue in our digestive system but to aspies it's even worse.

Sometimes when they have diarrhea, they are really constipated, the

liquid goes around the blockage

> of waste, and thus the diarrhea, with maybe a few little hard

pebbles. Why does everything have to be so hard for them huh? pj

>

> Patti! That is so sad...your poor sweet boy. I'll say a prayer

for him too!

>

> I know Dylan has " bathroom trouble " . Probably more diarrhea than

the other. We've entertained a GFCF diet, but we tried for a couple

of days and I didn't see a difference. I know I should probably try

longer than that, but it is EXPENSIVE and hard to see all three of us

doing it, which I really think would only be fair. I bought like

three different gluten free snacks and Dylan sort of liked one and

wouldn't touch the others. And they probably cost me about $15

total, just for three SNACKS. Ugh.

>

>

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> Do your children complain of stomach pain? My son hurts all the

time behind his belly button. He says it is a burning pain. We have

taken him to a speacilist and he had many tests. His systoms sound

like he has an ulcer, but the doctor never found any. No medication

has seemed to help him. I don't know what to do anymore. He has an

appointment with a GI doctor in April, because he won't see anyone

under 18, but my son said he can't wait that long, I wish I could

help him now. Does anyone have any suggestions? He takes Nexium but

hasn't helped. pj

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I have a question about a discussion a couple of weeks ago. Several

people mentioned a stomach problem created by taking antibiotics - c

diff. What is c diff, and how did you get it diagnosed? A poop test?

What bacteria are they looking for? I was taking clarithromyacin and

have been having really bad indigestion, so that I have to take Zantac

all the time, even though I have been off of it now for 2 weeks.

Thank you,

Cathleen

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The abx just about killed my stomach, and nothing would make it

better, until I found out about C-Salts at nutri.com. They healed it

and I still take it over 2.5 years later, as Vitamin C is very

important for those with Lyme. I take about 3,000 mg a day. It is

an effervescent C with Potassium, Zinc and something else, forget.

Google it. I buy it by the large jar as it is cheaper per dose that

way. I take it twice a day, along with my herbs.

Hope this helps.

Jim.

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> people mentioned a stomach problem created by taking antibiotics -

c

> diff. What is c diff, and how did you get it diagnosed? A poop

test?

> What bacteria are they looking for? I was taking clarithromyacin

and

> have been having really bad indigestion, so that I have to take

Zantac

> all the time, even though I have been off of it now for 2 weeks.

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> Thank you,

> Cathleen

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Thanks Jim, for the tip about the C-salts. I have ordered it and am

using it now...that was useful advice to me because I am taking so many

capsules and pills that I hated to add the Vit C in along with

everything else, so I was happy to find out about this form of it.

Maureen

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Minocin would be better than Emycin or tetracycline. You can also get liquid

I think. Make sure you eat with the Minocin..it will not hurt the

absorption. Don't depend on a rheumatologist ordering the antibiotics

because most of them are not in favor of losing their patients

Cooky AP12 yrs

Subject: rheumatic Stomach problems

Hello,

I understand that the antibiotics can cause stomach problems.

I already take Prevacid 2X a day and have motility issues in

swallowing. I can't swallow pills anymore.

So I was wondering if I would be a candidate for the antibiotic protocol?

I have MS (take Avonex weekly) but my doctor thinks I may have

Sjogren's syndrome, psoriatic arthritis and his latest is possible

Crest syndrome.

He is sending me to a rheumatologist but I don't want to start with

their typical treatments of injections, etc.

I tend to be sensitive to meds and like to keep my intake to a minimum.

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I had worse stomach problems before the AP than after, surprisingly. When I

do experience stomach pain or nausea I take massive doses of probiotics,

like Garden of Life Primal Defense, and I feel much better. The antibiotics

are SO worth it.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM, debiteacher <debiteacher@...> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I understand that the antibiotics can cause stomach problems.

>

> I already take Prevacid 2X a day and have motility issues in

> swallowing. I can't swallow pills anymore.

>

> So I was wondering if I would be a candidate for the antibiotic protocol?

>

> I have MS (take Avonex weekly) but my doctor thinks I may have

> Sjogren's syndrome, psoriatic arthritis and his latest is possible

> Crest syndrome.

>

> He is sending me to a rheumatologist but I don't want to start with

> their typical treatments of injections, etc.

>

> I tend to be sensitive to meds and like to keep my intake to a minimum.

>

> Thanks for your help.

>

>

>

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> I have severe stomach aches. I have been doing this diet thing since August

of 08. It does not matter what I eat or do my stomach hurts so badly. I am to

the point I cannot eat. Even if I do eat I am starving all the time. I feel

like I am starving to death. What can I do about the pain in my upper stomach.

I dry heave every time I eat. What can I do to get rid of the pain the pain. I

cannot stand it anymore.

+++Hi Ellen. I understand how you feel since my stomach was my worst

symptom when I started on my candida program. At one point I could only eat 9

foods in the whole world (I had no choice since everything else came back up),

and I was losing 3 lbs. per day.

If you change over to this program too quickly you will experience more die-off

symptoms which aren't necessary, since it is important to go slowly and allow

your body to adjust to each change. You should be following " Curing Candida,

How to Get Started " when changing to this program:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

Also, if you are taking supplements, treatments and drugs not included on this

program you will experience more problems.

May I ask you to please wait until I've had a chance to reply to your messages

before posting another one - I'm on the computer early in the morning and after

8 hours I have to stop, so if you posted messages in the afternoon or evening I

answer them the next morning.

Please see my reply to your earlier message.

The best, Bee

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Awww, this is very sad to hear. I had multiple ulcers, not bleeding, and

symptoms of GERD like acid reflux, etc. I never had issues with belching or

anything.... I do hear it can be from Lyme though. I tested positive for

H-Pylori a long time before getting Lyme and had to be treated with that, but

then they didn't know if I had ulcers or not from that bacteria. I then had an

endoscopy a few years later, which was last year, and I saw multiple ulcers

throughout my upper GI. These have successfully been treated and are gone now

and my GI track looks good!

I wish the best for you, it will only get better!

Elaina

From: PickPinkFlowers <haggisisscotsfood@...>

Subject: [ ] Stomach Problems

Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:15 PM

 

   I have learned I have e coli, salmonella, H pylori, a

bleeding ulcer, and GERD.  I am belching non-stop.  I can't eat anything

comfortably. The doc said make sure not to suppress the belches because gas can

build up to such a degree that, in extreme cases such as mine, the pressure

stops your heart. I have decided to think of myself as a human calliope.   Josie

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Dear Jackie,

Thanks for mentioning that about your stomach problems. My stomach is now

very sensitive to a lot of things since c-difficle. I stopped taking Nexium

because of the cost, but I think I need to go back to taking it again.

Antibiotics tear up my stomach much more than any food preference. My

gallbladder has been gone a long time, but the liver bile can really cause

constant stomach pains. This may sound strange, but the pains I had when I had

a heart attack were very similiar to the pains I had with my last gall bladder

attack. I was at the World's Fair in 1984, when I was struck by terrible pains

in my chest. They brought me to the doctor's station where I was monitored for

hours before they decided I needed to be hospitalized. The ambulance was right

there, so off I went and never got home for 9 days, they wouldn't let me go home

and get my things. My enzymes were so off the charts that they couldn't operate

for 5 days. I hope you are doing well at this time, Jackie.

xoxoxox

Lottie

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