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Carpul Tunnel Syndrome...

Sometimes is a B-6 deficiency, especially for women...would make sence with

lyme draining B vitamins through cellular invasion. Women should never take

more than 100 mg of b-6...Too much can cause reversible brain problems.

Byron

[Lyme-aid] Carpal Tunnel

>From: cheryl@...

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>http://www.askdrweil.com

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>Dr Weil will discuss carpal tunnel on Wednesday.

>

>Interestingly, carpal tunnel disappears for me with antibiotic treatment,

only to return without antibiotics.

>

>:o)

>Cheryl (NY)

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Cheryl...

Have you tried cross latch massage or myofascial release? May help...

Byron

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>Carpul Tunnel Syndrome...

>

>Sometimes is a B-6 deficiency, especially for women...would make sence with

>lyme draining B vitamins through cellular invasion. Women should never take

>more than 100 mg of b-6...Too much can cause reversible brain problems.

>

>Byron >>

>

>Thanks Byron,

>

>It hasn't seem to help me tho.

>

>:o)

>CHeryl

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Carpul Tunnel Syndrome...

Sometimes is a B-6 deficiency, especially for women...would make sence with

lyme draining B vitamins through cellular invasion. Women should never take

more than 100 mg of b-6...Too much can cause reversible brain problems.

Byron >>

Thanks Byron,

It hasn't seem to help me tho.

:o)

CHeryl

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In a message dated 02/24/2000 3:16:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,

j.clappison@... writes:

<< I don't know how bad you are, but I've had that problem a year or so

ago, and you have my full sympathy.

I found the only way I could do push ups was on my knuckles, but wasn't

strong enough, so I gripped a towel and then using another thick towel

folded on the floor, managed to push up holding the wrist straight, I

wasn't doing full push-up either,just the seated version, but starting

with one or two slowly built up. On good days I can even do them with

my hand flat now but have to be careful, and I'm doing them on my knees. >>

My right wrist had surgery and I wear a splint on my left when exercising,

especially the TB floorwork and even then use my knuckles. I invented my own

standing push up using a narrow doorway so I so not have to lift my whole

weight. My carpal tunnel syndrome was atypical and more of a congenital

anomaly. The surgeon said he never saw anything like it before and it took

him 3 times longer to stop my blood vessels from strangling my nerves.

Luckily the left has been more tolerable with a splint than the right so I

never went for the surgery on the left.

Recently I tried a double sweat wristband which helped too and was alot

cooler than a splint which doesn't air out as I sweat.

Barb

who figures after I lose another 20 pounds, I may try a modified push up again

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In a message dated 02/24/2000 3:16:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,

j.clappison@... writes:

<< I don't know how bad you are, but I've had that problem a year or so

ago, and you have my full sympathy.

I found the only way I could do push ups was on my knuckles, but wasn't

strong enough, so I gripped a towel and then using another thick towel

folded on the floor, managed to push up holding the wrist straight, I

wasn't doing full push-up either,just the seated version, but starting

with one or two slowly built up. On good days I can even do them with

my hand flat now but have to be careful, and I'm doing them on my knees. >>

My right wrist had surgery and I wear a splint on my left when exercising,

especially the TB floorwork and even then use my knuckles. I invented my own

standing push up using a narrow doorway so I so not have to lift my whole

weight. My carpal tunnel syndrome was atypical and more of a congenital

anomaly. The surgeon said he never saw anything like it before and it took

him 3 times longer to stop my blood vessels from strangling my nerves.

Luckily the left has been more tolerable with a splint than the right so I

never went for the surgery on the left.

Recently I tried a double sweat wristband which helped too and was alot

cooler than a splint which doesn't air out as I sweat.

Barb

who figures after I lose another 20 pounds, I may try a modified push up again

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On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:57:54 -0600

" elh " <elh@...> wrote:

>Does carpal tunnel have any relation to Graves? I've started to get the

>numbness in my right hand when I type on computer for past few weeks and

>now

>am noticing it when I am driving. Since this is a nerve problem I wonder

>if

>St. 's Wort would help. It heals nerve endings. Marshmallow removes

>scar tissue that forms. I wonder if the combo would help the problem. I

>see an Osteopath in April and get his opinion.

> Le Ann

Carpal tunnel ache is pretty common in thyroid patients. Inflammation and

swelling in this area compress the median nerve. Median nerve is a major

nerve which passes from the forearm to the palm through a very narow space

know as carpal tunnel (carpus in latin means wrist).

This swelling has to do with water and fat retention and other abnormalities

of the connective tissues related to the autoimmune syndrome.

The best remedy to cure it is using chinese balls, and moving them with that

hand.

They work wonderfully. I've done it for carpal tunnel, and in a few days I

was pain free.

Before trying them I wore a bandage at my wrist, day and night, for four

months with no relief. And there are people who go through surgery for

carpal tunnel.

Bandage and surgery are unnecessary if you use chinese balls for some days.

You can find them at a mall store selling international gifts or at an

oriental grocery

Chinese balls trace back to Ming Dinasty. Originally they were solid, and

afterwards were designed hollow with a sounding plate in it, one ball sounds

high and other sounds low (yin and yang).

According to chinese traditional medicine of " Jingluo " (jingluo refers to

the main and collateral channels, regarded as a networt of passages, through

which vital energie circulates and along which acupuncture points are

distributed), the ten fingers are connected with the heart, that is to say,

by means of jingluo the ten fingers are connected with the cranial nerve and

vital organs of the human body, including heart, liver, spleen, lungs,

kidneys, gallbladder, stomach and intestine,etc.

On plucking the balls with fingers, the balls can stimulate the various

acupuncture points in the hand, resulting in the unmpededness of circulation

of vital energy and blood in the body. In addition, it helps with the

hand, forearm and wrist muscles as with the crooking and stretching of the

fingers, the muscles are contracted and relaxed harmonically.

.

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I was evaluated today by an orthopedist for carpal tunnel.I need to have the

surgery done on both hands.I was told the success rate for lupus patients is

70%.I was wondering if any of you have had this surgery, how successful it

was and what was the recooperation time.I have significant muscle loss in my

hand as a result of the carpal tunnel and use my hands alot in my field of

nursing and was a little disappointed in the success rate.Soooooo,I'm

counting on you guys to give me some good reports :) Oh , and the GREAT news

is...the doctor feels I DON " T have RA , just lupus and lupus related

arthritis NOT RA....yippy skippy!! And up until this past week the joint pain

has been very tolerable so the lupus is responding to the AP as well as the

great lab reports.I'm on my way thanks to you guys, a great doctor and faith

in God above.Love ya's all!!

Joanie

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> I was evaluated today by an orthopedist for carpal tunnel.I need to have the > surgery done on both hands.I was told the success rate for lupus patients is > 70%.I was wondering if any of you have had this surgery, how successful it > was and what was the recooperation time.> >

Hi Joanie........I don't have lupus (RA), but did have carpal tunnel surgery. It was 100% successful! Prior to surgery, I could not, for example, hold a spoon for more than 6 seconds without it falling from my hand.......and the pain was more than considerable. At the time I was doing inhome care for a great old woman (97 years old - totally dependent), and it was extremely difficult to do my job. Recovery time was about 5 weeks, if memory serves me. Anyway, it was a blessing to have the surgery done. (By the way, the surgeon who did it is also the guy that is doing my knee-joint replacement surgery.) Good luck with this - I hope you're as happy with the results as i was!

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As a chiropractor I know this is true -

IF you get one who is interested in

REALLY helping this condition and doing

what is necessary to help. Sadly, there are different

levels of competence in the profession. Some don't

apply themselves as they should. If you find a good chiropractor,

he/she can help this condition quickly.

JP

Re: Carpal Tunnel

> I've been told by several sources that this can be helped by a

chiropractor.

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Acupuncture is one of the best things for this problem, in terms of getting you out of crisis.

This is probably redundant as it was posted so long ago but I am this far behind.

I also am battling carpal tunnel. I sleep with braces on my wrists and visit the chiropractor and a massage therapist. This has greatly improved this condition. I was already taking the Vit B. for other reasons. Did not know this was a factor in resolving carpal tunnel as well. Thank you for the info.

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> My chiropractor that has a staff acupuncturist doctor said to me last

night that too many regular doctors are quick to " cut " the wrist. A shame

he said when really the carpal tunnel problem is in the neck. Adjustments,

massage, and acupuncture could save you a lot of misery!

That makes allot of sense as I have serious neck problems since I had a

severe whiplash from a car accident a couple of years ago. There are a few

acupuncurists here. I will have to research and find out who is the best

one to go to. Thanks.

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Thanks for all the quick replies. I sleep with splints EVERY NIGHT,

faithfully and I take B6 everyday. I guess that I am looking for the needle

in a haystack. My doctor say surgery, but, most everyone that I talk with

that has had the surgery done says that it is only relives the symptoms for

a while. I will get some of the pills that you have mention and try them.

Thanks again.....Penny V.

Carpal Tunnel

> Penny,

> I suffer from severe bouts of tendonitis due to my work. I have had

> very good success using Hyland's homeopathic pills for tendonitis from

> the health food store. They relieve the pain in my wrists and elbow

> within days, and reduce the time I have to spend wearing braces from

> months down to days or a couple of weeks, at most. Maybe they would

> help you in conjunction with other treatments?

> Jewel

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > << I have

> > carpal tunnel syndrome...and have been advised to see a

> chiropractor bu just

> > have do not done so yet....Thanks....Penny V. >>

> >

> > Penny, a chiropractor can adjust your wrist. But you need more than

> that for

> > carpal tunnel.

> > Splints for your wrist to avoid movement will help. You can sleep

> with those.

> > Extra Vit B 6 is also helpful.Some people have found relief wearing

> magnets.

> > Christel

>

>

> Subscription email:

> mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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Dear SaraLou,

Just curious.. I have read about DMSO, but have never heard of anyone

acquiring it for themselves. Where did you find it? Also, do you

supplement your diet with large quantities of minerals during your DMSO

usage?

Jonah

SaraLou Pedigo wrote:

>

> Hi Penny,

>

> I made some stuff that helps my brother, sister and her husband. It helps

> the pain, in my experience, nothing will fix the problem short of changing

> what you're doing or the way you're doing it. Difficult dilemma.

>

> My recipe is always kind of loose but I make certain the essential oils are

> at a concentration of 1% or less. They also vary depending on what I have

> on hand and what I've read about most recently.

>

> Use a glass container as I suspect the ingredients can leach stuff out of

> any plastic.

>

> 50-75 percent DMSO

> 25-50 % Emu Oil

> 25 - 50% infused St. 's Wort oil (ran out and am now using commercially

> prepared tincture...no reports on any difference yet)

> Essential oils

>

> While DMSO does wonders, it will take anything you have with it past the

> skin barrier. At the very least, be certain your Emu oil or Valerian

> tincture or aloe vera has no additives you wouldn't drink or eat. This

> stuff's going straight in without the stomach-liver-kidney-intestine

> safeguards.

>

> I do NOT ever use Birch EO or Wintergreen EO. As I understand them, they do

> provide immediate relief but somewhat like NSAIDs, they also add to the

> problem down the road. Dr. Rob Pappas says it's nearly impossible to find

> either EO that isn't synthetic (and he tests for ALL the EO companies

> including the big MLM's that say their oils are pure and therefore can be

> used without dilution.)

>

> No medical advice here, just what I've done for myself and my relatives. By

> the way, the mixture doesn't do a thing for my carpal tunnel. Only

> adjustment of the vertebrae between my shoulder blades keeps me from having

> painful hands and fingers...or avoidance of my computer chair.

>

> SaraLou

>

> Carpal Tunnel

> >

> >

> > > Penny,

> > > I suffer from severe bouts of tendonitis due to my work. I have had

> > > very good success using Hyland's homeopathic pills for tendonitis from

> > > the health food store. They relieve the pain in my wrists and elbow

> > > within days, and reduce the time I have to spend wearing braces from

> > > months down to days or a couple of weeks, at most. Maybe they would

> > > help you in conjunction with other treatments?

> > > Jewel

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > << I have

> > > > carpal tunnel syndrome...and have been advised to see a

> > > chiropractor bu just

> > > > have do not done so yet....Thanks....Penny V. >>

> > > >

> > > > Penny, a chiropractor can adjust your wrist. But you need more than

> > > that for

> > > > carpal tunnel.

> > > > Splints for your wrist to avoid movement will help. You can sleep

> > > with those.

> > > > Extra Vit B 6 is also helpful.Some people have found relief wearing

> > > magnets.

> > > > Christel

> > >

> > >

> > > Subscription email:

> > > mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

> > >

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Hi Penny,

I made some stuff that helps my brother, sister and her husband. It helps

the pain, in my experience, nothing will fix the problem short of changing

what you're doing or the way you're doing it. Difficult dilemma.

My recipe is always kind of loose but I make certain the essential oils are

at a concentration of 1% or less. They also vary depending on what I have

on hand and what I've read about most recently.

Use a glass container as I suspect the ingredients can leach stuff out of

any plastic.

50-75 percent DMSO

25-50 % Emu Oil

25 - 50% infused St. 's Wort oil (ran out and am now using commercially

prepared tincture...no reports on any difference yet)

Essential oils

While DMSO does wonders, it will take anything you have with it past the

skin barrier. At the very least, be certain your Emu oil or Valerian

tincture or aloe vera has no additives you wouldn't drink or eat. This

stuff's going straight in without the stomach-liver-kidney-intestine

safeguards.

I do NOT ever use Birch EO or Wintergreen EO. As I understand them, they do

provide immediate relief but somewhat like NSAIDs, they also add to the

problem down the road. Dr. Rob Pappas says it's nearly impossible to find

either EO that isn't synthetic (and he tests for ALL the EO companies

including the big MLM's that say their oils are pure and therefore can be

used without dilution.)

No medical advice here, just what I've done for myself and my relatives. By

the way, the mixture doesn't do a thing for my carpal tunnel. Only

adjustment of the vertebrae between my shoulder blades keeps me from having

painful hands and fingers...or avoidance of my computer chair.

SaraLou

Carpal Tunnel

>

>

> > Penny,

> > I suffer from severe bouts of tendonitis due to my work. I have had

> > very good success using Hyland's homeopathic pills for tendonitis from

> > the health food store. They relieve the pain in my wrists and elbow

> > within days, and reduce the time I have to spend wearing braces from

> > months down to days or a couple of weeks, at most. Maybe they would

> > help you in conjunction with other treatments?

> > Jewel

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > << I have

> > > carpal tunnel syndrome...and have been advised to see a

> > chiropractor bu just

> > > have do not done so yet....Thanks....Penny V. >>

> > >

> > > Penny, a chiropractor can adjust your wrist. But you need more than

> > that for

> > > carpal tunnel.

> > > Splints for your wrist to avoid movement will help. You can sleep

> > with those.

> > > Extra Vit B 6 is also helpful.Some people have found relief wearing

> > magnets.

> > > Christel

> >

> >

> > Subscription email:

> > mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

> >

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I am always lery of doctors that say " surgery " ...have you gotten a

second opinion? What tests have been done? Have you had an EMG?

(electromyography) Also, it is best to avoid sodium in the diet.

---------------------------------------------------------------

> Thanks for all the quick replies. I sleep with splints EVERY NIGHT,

> faithfully and I take B6 everyday. I guess that I am looking for

the needle

> in a haystack. My doctor say surgery, but, most everyone that I

talk with

> that has had the surgery done says that it is only relives the

symptoms for

> a while. I will get some of the pills that you have mention and

try them.

> Thanks again.....Penny V.

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> Do you have similar symtoms to carpal tunnel syndrome?

> Does anyone else?

> Suzanne

Hi Suzanne, I had to see a neurologist for supposed carpal tunnel. I

had the old tingling in the fingers (last three on the right hand were

the worse), numbness in the hand, grip problems (more than only the

arthritic fingers), sore wrist and elbow. He had a tech do a nerve

conduction test and told me that there was no problem with the nerves

as would be expected in carpal. When he heard the word arthritis, he

said there's the problem -the arthritis would cause difficulties which

would mimic carpal tunnel. I take celebrex and this was increased

during my flare, which helped. Anyway, that was the problem for me,

but someone else may have the carpal tunnel for real, so get it

checked. Take care, Lorraine

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I had tingling and numbness in my right arm years ago. It was

diagnosed as a pinched nerve in my shoulder. That made sense at

the time--as a great dane was often attached to a leash at the

other end of my right arm. My tension headaches often lead right

to the muscle attached to my right shoulder blade. I guess that

could all be part of PA. I continue to deal with it through Yoga

exercises and a weekly massage. in KS

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Lorraine,

The reason I asked is that I have had the nerve conduction done twice. The

first time, they told me it was definitely carpal tunnel and wanted to

operate. I refused. Then about 4 years later, I had another one done. They

said it was at a point that if I didn't have surgery done right away that

it may not be reversable. That was about the time they dx'd me with RA.

Once on the RA meds and cock-up splints, the problem got much better. So

again, I refused. One month ago, I thought it was gone for good. But for

weeks now, I don't have one minute where the numbness is gone. The pain

associated with it is frequent. I cannot do my job anymore. Luckily I

worked ahead and school is just about done for the summer. But when I told

my Rheume about it, she bent my wrists and asked me where the numbness

was. When I told her, she said it was the PsA and not carpal tunnel! I

only started going to her within the last year. I got upset about her

saying that and didn't get into it with her. I had a lot of other things

on my mind and didn't feel like arguing about it at the time.

But, there is no question that I have it. Two nerve conductions within 4

years confirmed that. I just am interested to know if PsA can cause the

same effect. I suppose it can.

If I have to have the surgery done, it is best to have it done at the

start of summer vacation so as not to interfere with my teaching. But then

again, giving my hands a rest once school is out, I am sure my hands and

arms will begin to feel better and I will again refuse the surgery if

suggested by my ortho surgeon.

This gets me so confused some times. Thanks for letting me know that you

can have the symtoms without it being CT.

Suzanne

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I put off carpal tunnel surgery for years, thinking it would go away or that

it was just more of the PA. Finally, pain drove me to it. Had both wrists

done, eight weeks apart. I was back to work in a few days each time, with a

cast, and have no more numbness or pain, recovery was a snap and I am sorry I

put if off so long.

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Hi ,

Wow! I'm sorry to hear you have such a bad case of CT. Well, at least

you have confirmation. That should be a relief to some extent- to

know for sure.

Definitely avoid typing!!! You might investigate getting " Dragon

Naturally Speaking " software (voice recognition). It's really helpful

for email stuff and it works for web browsers and the newsgroup too.

I use it periodically. It takes a lot patience to use it though.

They have completely different anesthetics for surgery.

Optimistically thinking- you may feel a lot better after the surgery.

Make sure and address your concern about the pain management post-

surgery given your recent med history with all the doctors.

Best wishes and hugs, !

-Meghan

> The EMG showed that I have a severe, advanced case of carpal

tunnel. The woman said that I will definately have to get the

surgery. I haven't sleeped all weekend b/c the pain is so great. My

dr. won't have the results until Tue. or Wed. I am very afraid of

the surgery. The methodone does nothing for the pain. I don't know

how I will take the pain of the surgery if even the methodone doesn't

work. I don't know if i will have to come off the enbrel for the

surgery. My husband says I am being negative. he held my hand

throuhout the emg and tried to make me smile. I just don't

understand why all these things happen to me. I will have to become

a lurker for a while. i will still be here, reading the messages.

the pain is too excrutiating to type. i will be thinking of you all.

>

> leslie

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In a message dated 04/29/2002 1:41:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lesliesa@... writes:

> I am very afraid of the surgery

- My mom went through a double carpal tunnel surgery and recovered

quite easily. Just make sure they know all of your conditions. I don't

think they'll make you go off the enbrel - only anti-inflamatories.

It will be ok. I know sometimes these health things we deal with seem like

mountains, but take it one day at a time and you'll get over each hill. And

I think the surgery will make you more comfortable. Take it one step at a

time and don't think too much about what you're going to have to do, the

pain, etc. - just hang in there and take one day, one step, one ailment as it

comes.

Take care,

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Don't fear the surgery - I had it in both wrists and was back to work (in a

cast) in 4 days. My hands, arms and shoulders felt so much better,

immediately after surgery that whatever minor pain came from the surgery was

NOTHING! One bad night, lots of vicodin and the pain pretty much was easy to

handle. I had severe carpal tunnel, had put up with the pain for years. I

kick myself for not having the surgery sooner, but I kept think I could not

go through it, or be out of work and out of commission for that long. You

can't do both hands at once, so I had one done then 2 months later had the

second one done. Easy Peasy!! Take care, don't fear and you will be so glad

you had it done!!!!

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>>>Don't fear the surgery - I had it in both wrists and was back to work (in a

cast) in 4 days. >>>

You went back to work the next week? Did you have the endoscopic or open hand?

I heard that it has a much longer recovery time. What line of work are you in?

Were you on light duty? Sorry, I don't understand how you could have surgery on

your hand and go back to work after 4 days. I spend all day on the computer so

I really don't know what I could do at work(especially with it being my right

hand) after only 4 days. I take methodone for my pain from the arthritis and

fibromyalgia. It doesn't do much for the carpal tunnel. That is why I am so

afraid of the surgery. I am in so much pain now and painkillers only barely

touch it. I can't imagine what i will feel like after surgery. I am afraids

the surgery will cause the fibro and PA to flare too. That isn't uncommon is

it? And my compromised immune system. A little voice keeps going off in my

head " your too young to have surgery. Your too young to have surgery. " I know

I need it and I will feel better afterwards. I don't know why I am so afraid.

I have had bad luck with doctors and have no trust for them at all. Thanks to

everyone for all the info and encouragement. I know I have to be strong for

this and try not to worry.

Thanks,

>>> Toadessa7@... 04/29/02 15:28 PM >>>

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Meghan,

I am wearing a splint. It is painful to type but I need this group. You guys

are the only people I can talk to about this stuff. Everyone else gets sick of

hearing it. They don't understand why it is always on my mind. It is hard to

stop thinking about being in pain when you are constantly in pain and it is a

reminder. I know I shouldn't type but I really need you guys and I can't keep

my " mouth " shut.

My husband is very optimistic. He thinks if I have the surgery it will solve

most of my problems and I will feel better. I really hope so. I called my

rhuemy and she didn't get the results yet. She told me jus to wear the splints

and she wasn't going to refer me to surgeon. I don't think she knows how bad it

is. She made it sound like I wouldn't need the surgery but the Dr. who did the

EMG said it was very severe and advanced and that I must have had it for a while

and I would definitely need the surgery. I spoke to the PT therapist for hands

when I went to PT on Monday. He thumped the inside of my wrist and sent a shock

of pins and needles all the way up my arm. I yelped and jumped up. He said

that was bad. When they had me laying on the hot packs on the PT table after 10

mins. my entire arm was so painful I was crying. I couldn't sit up on my own

b/c my hand an my lower back. PT therapist thinks the nerve damage is in my

neck. I really don't understand why my rheumy would say for me to just use the

splints (and she hasn't even examined them or seen the results from the EMG and

everyone else who saw them says I need surgery. I just want to fix it ASAP.

This nerve pain is much worse than the PA and Fibro.

Rheumy prescribed me ambiem to help me sleep. I had the best night of sleep I

have ever had in the past 2 years. I only woke up 1 time and I fell right back

to sleep. I felt much better (fibro and PA) today. I still have horrible

fatigue. It comes and goes in waves. I think it is from the increase in

neurotin(but I take it at night). Oh, I am so tired of being tired and hurting.

That in itself is exhausting,.

Best wishes to everyone,

>>> meghan@... 04/29/02 12:58PM >>>

Hi ,

Wow! I'm sorry to hear you have such a bad case of CT. Well, at least

you have confirmation. That should be a relief to some extent- to

know for sure.

Definitely avoid typing!!! You might investigate getting " Dragon

Naturally Speaking " software (voice recognition). It's really helpful

for email stuff and it works for web browsers and the newsgroup too.

I use it periodically. It takes a lot patience to use it though.

They have completely different anesthetics for surgery.

Optimistically thinking- you may feel a lot better after the surgery.

Make sure and address your concern about the pain management post-

surgery given your recent med history with all the doctors.

Best wishes and hugs, !

-Meghan

> The EMG showed that I have a severe, advanced case of carpal

tunnel. The woman said that I will definately have to get the

surgery. I haven't sleeped all weekend b/c the pain is so great. My

dr. won't have the results until Tue. or Wed. I am very afraid of

the surgery. The methodone does nothing for the pain. I don't know

how I will take the pain of the surgery if even the methodone doesn't

work. I don't know if i will have to come off the enbrel for the

surgery. My husband says I am being negative. he held my hand

throuhout the emg and tried to make me smile. I just don't

understand why all these things happen to me. I will have to become

a lurker for a while. i will still be here, reading the messages.

the pain is too excrutiating to type. i will be thinking of you all.

>

> leslie

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