Quick Question

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Hi Sange,

Just name brands for oils that contain fish oil and borage oil

(ProEFA) or high amount of EPA with DHA/Omega 3 alone which most of

us use together with ProEFA.

Quick answer yes you can give to an infant even -it's now in baby

formula and food, and you can get them at any health food store but

it's cheaper online for the name brand oils we talk about most.

Nestlé's makes the very best...baby formula?

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You can learn much more as well by reading The Late Talker we

cover all of this in chapter 8.

You can read a quick article online at

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Hi , I was told to take them separately.

I took my T4 in the middle of the night when I'd get up to pee (usually around 8

a.m. because I'm a second shifter).

Then I'd take my first T3 around 1 p.m.; I'd take my second T3 around 1 a.m.

I was told to try to take the two T3s about 12 hours apart.

How much T3 are you taking?

I'm taking Armour now; I just started it on Wed. I'm also taking the same dosage

of T3 with it (but I was told I could double the T3 dosage if I felt i needed

it). Anyway, so far I haven't noticed much of a difference, but it's only been 2

days, plus I have bronchitis, so I'm not feeling so hot.

I have noticed the past 2 days I'm not having ANY bathroom problems and I quit

taking my fiber supplement on purpose to see if the Armour would make a

difference. I can't believe what a difference!!! could be it's just a

coincidence, but I have dreadful problems going to the bathroom, even with the

fiber supplements.

I hope it keeps up!!

Are you ready for the holidays?

Take care, Sheila

K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:

Hello,

I just got cytomel added to t4. should I take these together? thanks

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Hi Sheila,

I'm only on 5 mcgs of Cytomel. It's a start, but I don't know if it will

make a difference.

I'm going to do a colon cleanse with bentonite clay and psyllium. It would

actually help you with your bathroom problems. My friend did it and had

diarrhea and or constipation for years and it's all gone! That's not why

I'm doing it though....

and yes, I'm ready for the holidays thank god! Just have to wrap all

weekend with a 1 yr old and look forward to seeing family (but ouch we have

so much driving to do)

----Original Message Follows----

From: Kemal Kalajdzic <kemalandsheila@...>

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hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: quick question

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:31:54 -0800 (PST)

Hi , I was told to take them separately.

I took my T4 in the middle of the night when I'd get up to pee (usually

around 8 a.m. because I'm a second shifter).

Then I'd take my first T3 around 1 p.m.; I'd take my second T3 around 1 a.m.

I was told to try to take the two T3s about 12 hours apart.

How much T3 are you taking?

I'm taking Armour now; I just started it on Wed. I'm also taking the same

dosage of T3 with it (but I was told I could double the T3 dosage if I felt

i needed it). Anyway, so far I haven't noticed much of a difference, but

it's only been 2 days, plus I have bronchitis, so I'm not feeling so hot.

I have noticed the past 2 days I'm not having ANY bathroom problems and I

quit taking my fiber supplement on purpose to see if the Armour would make a

difference. I can't believe what a difference!!! could be it's just a

coincidence, but I have dreadful problems going to the bathroom, even with

the fiber supplements.

I hope it keeps up!!

Are you ready for the holidays?

Take care, Sheila

K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:

Hello,

I just got cytomel added to t4. should I take these together? thanks

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[Guest guest]

WOW. I really think you can just take Armour, w/out the extra T3, because

Armour is high in T3. You might need to increase Armour dose, as so often

we are undertreated.

Gracia

>

> I'm taking Armour now; I just started it on Wed. I'm also taking the same

dosage of T3 with it (but I was told I could double the T3 dosage if I felt

i needed it). Anyway, so far I haven't noticed much of a difference, but

it's only been 2 days, plus I have bronchitis, so I'm not feeling so hot.

>

> I have noticed the past 2 days I'm not having ANY bathroom problems and I

quit taking my fiber supplement on purpose to see if the Armour would make a

difference. I can't believe what a difference!!! could be it's just a

coincidence, but I have dreadful problems going to the bathroom, even with

the fiber supplements.

>

[Guest guest]

yeah, I thought that was weird too - taking Cytomel with Armour, but didn't

want to say anything b/c I don't know that much about Armour. Sheila, you

may want to get another opinion, esp b/c he was telling you that you could

also double up on Cytomel. yikes, that sounds like a lot of hormone

especially when you said your TSH was .01 (or am I confusing you with

someone else?)

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From: " Gracia " <circe@...>

WOW. I really think you can just take Armour, w/out the extra T3, because

Armour is high in T3.

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Hi ,

I've only been taking 5 mcgs of Cytomel as well. I've been taking it twice a

day, and it really did make a big difference. My endo actually RXed it 2 tabs

twice a day but I misread it and was taking 2 tabs once a day. Hopefully it'll

make a difference for you. I started feeling better around the 4th day of taking

it.

I'll keep your cleansing remedy in mind; however, since I started Armour on

Wed., I'm not having problems. It might just be a fluke, but I guess time will

tell.

Well, your Christmas will be much more interesting than mine...kids do that!!!!

Sorry you have to do so much driving. I hate that part.

This is the first year Kemal and I haven't had to work Christmas Eve night.

We're off both Christmas Eve and Christmas. We'll probably go to the cinema,

visit with friends, watch movies and home, and pig out!

Take care, and have a great holiday!!! Hugs, Sheila

K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:

Hi Sheila,

I'm only on 5 mcgs of Cytomel. It's a start, but I don't know if it will

make a difference.

I'm going to do a colon cleanse with bentonite clay and psyllium. It would

actually help you with your bathroom problems. My friend did it and had

diarrhea and or constipation for years and it's all gone! That's not why

I'm doing it though....

and yes, I'm ready for the holidays thank god! Just have to wrap all

weekend with a 1 yr old and look forward to seeing family (but ouch we have

so much driving to do)

----Original Message Follows----

From: Kemal Kalajdzic <kemalandsheila@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: quick question

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:31:54 -0800 (PST)

Hi , I was told to take them separately.

I took my T4 in the middle of the night when I'd get up to pee (usually

around 8 a.m. because I'm a second shifter).

Then I'd take my first T3 around 1 p.m.; I'd take my second T3 around 1 a.m.

I was told to try to take the two T3s about 12 hours apart.

How much T3 are you taking?

I'm taking Armour now; I just started it on Wed. I'm also taking the same

dosage of T3 with it (but I was told I could double the T3 dosage if I felt

i needed it). Anyway, so far I haven't noticed much of a difference, but

it's only been 2 days, plus I have bronchitis, so I'm not feeling so hot.

I have noticed the past 2 days I'm not having ANY bathroom problems and I

quit taking my fiber supplement on purpose to see if the Armour would make a

difference. I can't believe what a difference!!! could be it's just a

coincidence, but I have dreadful problems going to the bathroom, even with

the fiber supplements.

I hope it keeps up!!

Are you ready for the holidays?

Take care, Sheila

K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:

Hello,

I just got cytomel added to t4. should I take these together? thanks

_________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Okay, thanks! Sheila

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

WOW. I really think you can just take Armour, w/out the extra T3, because

Armour is high in T3. You might need to increase Armour dose, as so often

we are undertreated.

Gracia

>

> I'm taking Armour now; I just started it on Wed. I'm also taking the same

dosage of T3 with it (but I was told I could double the T3 dosage if I felt

i needed it). Anyway, so far I haven't noticed much of a difference, but

it's only been 2 days, plus I have bronchitis, so I'm not feeling so hot.

>

> I have noticed the past 2 days I'm not having ANY bathroom problems and I

quit taking my fiber supplement on purpose to see if the Armour would make a

difference. I can't believe what a difference!!! could be it's just a

coincidence, but I have dreadful problems going to the bathroom, even with

the fiber supplements.

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah why is that??? I notice that too my bowels are still sluggish regardless of

the fiber intake. Not getting many urges to go as one would with optimal fiber

intake. I notice things are worse or don't work right when i feel cold.

Everything is sluggish including the mind. My temps are low too as well.

Chris

Re: quick question

Okay, thanks! Sheila

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

WOW. I really think you can just take Armour, w/out the extra T3, because

Armour is high in T3. You might need to increase Armour dose, as so often

we are undertreated.

Gracia

>

> I'm taking Armour now; I just started it on Wed. I'm also taking the same

dosage of T3 with it (but I was told I could double the T3 dosage if I felt

i needed it). Anyway, so far I haven't noticed much of a difference, but

it's only been 2 days, plus I have bronchitis, so I'm not feeling so hot.

>

> I have noticed the past 2 days I'm not having ANY bathroom problems and I

quit taking my fiber supplement on purpose to see if the Armour would make a

difference. I can't believe what a difference!!! could be it's just a

coincidence, but I have dreadful problems going to the bathroom, even with

the fiber supplements.

>

[Guest guest]

I take them together, but I also take some Cytomel later, splitting

my dosage. How much are you taking?

Jan

> Hello,

> I just got cytomel added to t4. should I take these together?

thanks

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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Home.

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[Guest guest]

only 5 right now... she actually decreased my T4 from 112 to 100 and then

added the cytomel, so it may or may not make a difference..... it's not

making me jittery like it did last time, so that's good

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Subject: Re: quick question

Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 02:11:38 -0000

I take them together, but I also take some Cytomel later, splitting

my dosage. How much are you taking?

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I'd take it together, then.

Jan

> only 5 right now... she actually decreased my T4 from 112 to 100

and then

> added the cytomel, so it may or may not make a difference..... it's

not

> making me jittery like it did last time, so that's good

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , My endo did the same thing. When he added Cytomel, he decreased my

Levoxyl. I wasn't sure it would make a difference either since he decreased the

Levoxyl, but boy did it ever! Hopefully the T4/T3 combo will make a big

difference for you as well! Keeping my fingers crossed, Sheila

K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:only 5 right now... she actually

decreased my T4 from 112 to 100 and then

added the cytomel, so it may or may not make a difference..... it's not

making me jittery like it did last time, so that's good

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Subject: Re: quick question

Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 02:11:38 -0000

I take them together, but I also take some Cytomel later, splitting

my dosage. How much are you taking?

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Following s' instructions, no parasite cleanse is required. in

my nine flushes, I never did any.

g

> > Hello;

> > I am new to this post but I have something I need to say;

> > I have noticed that there seems to be two trains of thought on this

> e-mail

> > list. One, is that the liver flush, done properly with colonics,

> and done

> > properly, will help people really recover and be able to move on

> with their

> > lives. These testimonials are given by people that have lived

> through this

> > terrible disease and have finally gotten some hope for the rest

of their

> > lives. I have not done a liver flush yet but I am looking forward

> to the

> > hope that is in the future.

> >

> > Another train of thought is by someone who is trying to sell

products to

> > those of us who are suffering. I bought into it and tried some

> inulin which

> > didn't do anything for me. I get confused when this person is

> constantly

> > nay saying the liver flush protocal that really works and keeps

> getting onto

> > the glutathiane stuff and all that cold pressed whey stuff.

> >

> > In the 12 step groups I am in, which I know that this one is not,

> they have

> > a tradition that they incorporate in the groups which is that the

> group has

> > " no other affiliation " , such as someone constantly pushing products

> to the

> > rest of the group. I wish we could follow that tradition here.

I don't

> > personally have a problem with the person that is doing this. He is

> trying

> > to make a living, but for the good of the group, I wish we could

> have a rule

> > like that. That yes, you can add posts of your own personal

> experience, but

> > don't try and push your products and try and make us feel guilty

for not

> > buying certain ones. I just had to get that off my chest. I have

> suffered

> > too long and hard with disease to go for more products that just

> don't do

> > much, or just prolong the agony. Thanks for letting me share.

> >

> >

> > glutathione

> >

> >

> > > Quotes from this Long String...

> > >

> > > " If we reduce toxin load there will be much less glutathione

> > > depletion and thus better recovery. " " Glutathione is part of that

> > > equation. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This really makes the case for cleansing the colon &

> > > liver/gallbladder systems.

> > >

> > > The liver is largely responsible for synthesizing the three amino

> > > acids (referred to as Glutathione precursors glycine,

glutamate and

> > > cystine) eats a diet high in fresh fruits and vegetables and

freshly

> > > prepared meats, you should get be getting enough glutamate and

> > > glycine. But cystine comes mostly from eggs, milk and cheese.

> > >

> > > When eggs, milk and cheese are cooked or processed, the heat

breaks

> > > down the dipeptides of cystine to cysteine. While still a valuable

> > > amino acid, it can no longer feed your glutathione levels. If

you can

> > > get a sufficient supply of cystine (which determines the rate at

> > > which you can make glutathione), your arsenal is well-stocked.

So if

> > > you think you are eating foods that may not have sufficient

amount of

> > > all three amino acids it is fairly simple and easy to

supplement one

> > > without a great deal of expense or exclusive/exotic product

purchase.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I've found links for hulda's liver flush, but where could i find 's method. I've been on his forum, and searched around a bit but could not find any info on how to perform his flushes. Could anyone please give me a link, or just cut and paste some info they know. It would be greatly appreciated.

-ras

P.S.

Thanks .

glutathione> > > > > > > Quotes from this Long String...> > >> > > "If we reduce toxin load there will be much less glutathione> > > depletion and thus better recovery." "Glutathione is part of that> > > equation."> > >> > >> > >> > > This really makes the case for cleansing the colon & > > > liver/gallbladder systems.> > >> > > The liver is largely responsible for synthesizing the three amino> > > acids (referred to as Glutathione precursors glycine,glutamate and> > > cystine) eats a diet high in fresh fruits and vegetables andfreshly> > > prepared meats, you should get be getting enough glutamate and> > > glycine. But cystine comes mostly from eggs, milk and cheese.> > >> > > When eggs, milk and cheese are cooked or processed, the heatbreaks> > > down the dipeptides of cystine to cysteine. While still a valuable> > > amino acid, it can no longer feed your glutathione levels. Ifyou can> > > get a sufficient supply of cystine (which determines the rate at> > > which you can make glutathione), your arsenal is well-stocked.So if> > > you think you are eating foods that may not have sufficientamount of> > > all three amino acids it is fairly simple and easy tosupplement one> > > without a great deal of expense or exclusive/exotic productpurchase.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

[Guest guest]

I did the parasite cleansing prior to each of my first three liver

flushes(hulda clark). Then switched to just adding it to the olive

oil/grapefruit mixture. I didn't use it at all in the last flush I

did.

I had no stones on the first and third flushes, and a small amount on

the second one. The numbers have grown from there. On my last three,

I've gotten over 1000 out on each.

I don't believe that the anti parasitics affect it in any way. (my 2

cents).

Rick

> > Hello;

> > I am new to this post but I have something I need to say;

> > I have noticed that there seems to be two trains of thought on

this

> e-mail

> > list. One, is that the liver flush, done properly with

colonics,

> and done

> > properly, will help people really recover and be able to move on

> with their

> > lives. These testimonials are given by people that have lived

> through this

> > terrible disease and have finally gotten some hope for the rest

of their

> > lives. I have not done a liver flush yet but I am looking

forward

> to the

> > hope that is in the future.

> >

> > Another train of thought is by someone who is trying to sell

products to

> > those of us who are suffering. I bought into it and tried some

> inulin which

> > didn't do anything for me. I get confused when this person is

> constantly

> > nay saying the liver flush protocal that really works and keeps

> getting onto

> > the glutathiane stuff and all that cold pressed whey stuff.

> >

> > In the 12 step groups I am in, which I know that this one is

not,

> they have

> > a tradition that they incorporate in the groups which is that

the

> group has

> > " no other affiliation " , such as someone constantly pushing

products

> to the

> > rest of the group. I wish we could follow that tradition

here. I don't

> > personally have a problem with the person that is doing this.

He is

> trying

> > to make a living, but for the good of the group, I wish we could

> have a rule

> > like that. That yes, you can add posts of your own personal

> experience, but

> > don't try and push your products and try and make us feel

guilty for not

> > buying certain ones. I just had to get that off my chest. I

have

> suffered

> > too long and hard with disease to go for more products that just

> don't do

> > much, or just prolong the agony. Thanks for letting me share.

> >

> >

> > glutathione

> >

> >

> > > Quotes from this Long String...

> > >

> > > " If we reduce toxin load there will be much less glutathione

> > > depletion and thus better recovery. " " Glutathione is part of

that

> > > equation. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This really makes the case for cleansing the colon &

> > > liver/gallbladder systems.

> > >

> > > The liver is largely responsible for synthesizing the three

amino

> > > acids (referred to as Glutathione precursors glycine,

glutamate and

> > > cystine) eats a diet high in fresh fruits and vegetables and

freshly

> > > prepared meats, you should get be getting enough glutamate and

> > > glycine. But cystine comes mostly from eggs, milk and cheese.

> > >

> > > When eggs, milk and cheese are cooked or processed, the heat

breaks

> > > down the dipeptides of cystine to cysteine. While still a

valuable

> > > amino acid, it can no longer feed your glutathione levels. If

you can

> > > get a sufficient supply of cystine (which determines the rate

at

> > > which you can make glutathione), your arsenal is well-

stocked. So if

> > > you think you are eating foods that may not have sufficient

amount of

> > > all three amino acids it is fairly simple and easy to

supplement one

> > > without a great deal of expense or exclusive/exotic product

purchase.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks with organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting liver flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the first place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then many of my symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which carries all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and so far i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better. thanks everyone.

best regards

sardarjcgre <johngrellner@...> wrote:

Following s' instructions, no parasite cleanse is required. inmy nine flushes, I never did any.g> > Hello;> > I am new to this post but I have something I need to say;> > I

have noticed that there seems to be two trains of thought on this> e-mail> > list. One, is that the liver flush, done properly with colonics,> and done> > properly, will help people really recover and be able to move on> with their> > lives. These testimonials are given by people that have lived> through this> > terrible disease and have finally gotten some hope for the restof their> > lives. I have not done a liver flush yet but I am looking forward> to the> > hope that is in the future.> > > > Another train of thought is by someone who is trying to sellproducts to> > those of us who are suffering. I bought into it and tried some> inulin

which> > didn't do anything for me. I get confused when this person is> constantly> > nay saying the liver flush protocal that really works and keeps> getting onto> > the glutathiane stuff and all that cold pressed whey stuff.> > > > In the 12 step groups I am in, which I know that this one is not,> they have> > a tradition that they incorporate in the groups which is that the> group has> > "no other affiliation", such as someone constantly pushing products> to the> > rest of the group. I wish we could follow that tradition here.I don't> > personally have a problem with the person that is doing this. He is> trying> > to make a

living, but for the good of the group, I wish we could> have a rule> > like that. That yes, you can add posts of your own personal> experience, but> > don't try and push your products and try and make us feel guiltyfor not> > buying certain ones. I just had to get that off my chest. I have> suffered> > too long and hard with disease to go for more products that just> don't do> > much, or just prolong the agony. Thanks for letting me share.> > > > > >

glutathione> > > > > > > Quotes from this Long String...> > >> > > "If we reduce toxin load there will be much less glutathione> > > depletion and thus better recovery." "Glutathione is part of that> > > equation."> > >> > >> > >> > > This really makes the case for cleansing the colon & > > > liver/gallbladder systems.> > >> > > The liver is largely responsible for synthesizing the three amino> > > acids (referred to as Glutathione precursors glycine,glutamate and> > > cystine) eats a diet high in fresh fruits and vegetables andfreshly> >

> prepared meats, you should get be getting enough glutamate and> > > glycine. But cystine comes mostly from eggs, milk and cheese.> > >> > > When eggs, milk and cheese are cooked or processed, the heatbreaks> > > down the dipeptides of cystine to cysteine. While still a valuable> > > amino acid, it can no longer feed your glutathione levels. Ifyou can> > > get a sufficient supply of cystine (which determines the rate at> > > which you can make glutathione), your arsenal is well-stocked.So if> > > you think you are eating foods that may not have sufficientamount of> > > all three amino acids it is fairly simple and easy tosupplement one> > > without a great deal of expense or exclusive/exotic

productpurchase.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

[Guest guest]

I'd be careful doing that many coffee enemas a week. Too many can

stress, I believe the adrenals.

It's suggested that you wait at least two weeks before doing another

flush.

Can you tell me how many stones you get out waiting just one week in

between the flushes?

Thanks

Rick

> > > Hello;

> > > I am new to this post but I have something I need to say;

> > > I have noticed that there seems to be two trains of thought

on this

> > e-mail

> > > list. One, is that the liver flush, done properly with

colonics,

> > and done

> > > properly, will help people really recover and be able to move

on

> > with their

> > > lives. These testimonials are given by people that have lived

> > through this

> > > terrible disease and have finally gotten some hope for the

rest

> of their

> > > lives. I have not done a liver flush yet but I am looking

forward

> > to the

> > > hope that is in the future.

> > >

> > > Another train of thought is by someone who is trying to sell

> products to

> > > those of us who are suffering. I bought into it and tried

some

> > inulin which

> > > didn't do anything for me. I get confused when this person is

> > constantly

> > > nay saying the liver flush protocal that really works and

keeps

> > getting onto

> > > the glutathiane stuff and all that cold pressed whey stuff.

> > >

> > > In the 12 step groups I am in, which I know that this one is

not,

> > they have

> > > a tradition that they incorporate in the groups which is that

the

> > group has

> > > " no other affiliation " , such as someone constantly pushing

products

> > to the

> > > rest of the group. I wish we could follow that tradition

here.

> I don't

> > > personally have a problem with the person that is doing

this. He is

> > trying

> > > to make a living, but for the good of the group, I wish we

could

> > have a rule

> > > like that. That yes, you can add posts of your own personal

> > experience, but

> > > don't try and push your products and try and make us feel

guilty

> for not

> > > buying certain ones. I just had to get that off my chest. I

have

> > suffered

> > > too long and hard with disease to go for more products that

just

> > don't do

> > > much, or just prolong the agony. Thanks for letting me share.

> > >

> > >

> > > glutathione

> > >

> > >

> > > > Quotes from this Long String...

> > > >

> > > > " If we reduce toxin load there will be much less glutathione

> > > > depletion and thus better recovery. " " Glutathione is part

of that

> > > > equation. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This really makes the case for cleansing the colon &

> > > > liver/gallbladder systems.

> > > >

> > > > The liver is largely responsible for synthesizing the three

amino

> > > > acids (referred to as Glutathione precursors glycine,

> glutamate and

> > > > cystine) eats a diet high in fresh fruits and vegetables

and

> freshly

> > > > prepared meats, you should get be getting enough glutamate

and

> > > > glycine. But cystine comes mostly from eggs, milk and

cheese.

> > > >

> > > > When eggs, milk and cheese are cooked or processed, the heat

> breaks

> > > > down the dipeptides of cystine to cysteine. While still a

valuable

> > > > amino acid, it can no longer feed your glutathione levels.

If

> you can

> > > > get a sufficient supply of cystine (which determines the

rate at

> > > > which you can make glutathione), your arsenal is well-

stocked.

> So if

> > > > you think you are eating foods that may not have sufficient

> amount of

> > > > all three amino acids it is fairly simple and easy to

> supplement one

> > > > without a great deal of expense or exclusive/exotic product

> purchase.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

the first flush was about couple hundreds, the second one was less than a half, but the last one was about several hundreds. i didn't count, but sure i am feeling great. i will reduce the coffee enema to 1 or 2 a week, and i will wait two weeks before doing another flush- thank you for your suggestion. it feels great getting well after so many years of unexplained illness, and not knowing just three liver flushes can make all the difference.

thanks again

sardarslickrick605 <slickrick605@...> wrote:

I'd be careful doing that many coffee enemas a week. Too many can stress, I believe the adrenals.It's suggested that you wait at least two weeks before doing another flush.Can you tell me how many stones you get out waiting just one week in between the flushes?ThanksRick> > > Hello;> > > I am new to this post but I have something I need to say;> > > I have noticed that there seems to be two trains of thought on this> > e-mail> > > list. One, is that the liver flush, done properly with colonics,> > and done> > > properly, will help people really recover and be able to move on> > with their> > > lives. These testimonials are given by people that have lived> > through this> > > terrible disease and have finally gotten some hope for the rest> of their> > > lives. I have not done a liver flush yet

but I am looking forward> > to the> > > hope that is in the future.> > > > > > Another train of thought is by someone who is trying to sell> products to> > > those of us who are suffering. I bought into it and tried some> > inulin which> > > didn't do anything for me. I get confused when this person is> > constantly> > > nay saying the liver flush protocal that really works and keeps> > getting onto> > > the glutathiane stuff and all that cold pressed whey stuff.> > > > > > In the 12 step groups I am in, which I know that this one is not,> > they have> > > a tradition that they incorporate in

the groups which is that the> > group has> > > "no other affiliation", such as someone constantly pushing products> > to the> > > rest of the group. I wish we could follow that tradition here.> I don't> > > personally have a problem with the person that is doing this. He is> > trying> > > to make a living, but for the good of the group, I wish we could> > have a rule> > > like that. That yes, you can add posts of your own personal> > experience, but> > > don't try and push your products and try and make us feel guilty> for not> > > buying certain ones. I just had to get that off my chest. I have> > suffered>

> > too long and hard with disease to go for more products that just> > don't do> > > much, or just prolong the agony. Thanks for letting me share.> > > > > > > > > glutathione> > > > > > > > > > Quotes from this Long String...> > > >> > > > "If we reduce toxin load there will be much less glutathione> > > > depletion and thus better recovery." "Glutathione is part of

that> > > > equation."> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This really makes the case for cleansing the colon & > > > > liver/gallbladder systems.> > > >> > > > The liver is largely responsible for synthesizing the three amino> > > > acids (referred to as Glutathione precursors glycine,> glutamate and> > > > cystine) eats a diet high in fresh fruits and vegetables and> freshly> > > > prepared meats, you should get be getting enough glutamate and> > > > glycine. But cystine comes mostly from eggs, milk and cheese.> > > >> > > > When eggs, milk and cheese are cooked or

processed, the heat> breaks> > > > down the dipeptides of cystine to cysteine. While still a valuable> > > > amino acid, it can no longer feed your glutathione levels. If> you can> > > > get a sufficient supply of cystine (which determines the rate at> > > > which you can make glutathione), your arsenal is well-stocked.> So if> > > > you think you are eating foods that may not have sufficient> amount of> > > > all three amino acids it is fairly simple and easy to> supplement one> > > > without a great deal of expense or exclusive/exotic product> purchase.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

So, how many times a month should a liver flush be done? You say that you saw improvements in your third flush Sardar, does that mean 1 1/2 months since you first started or was it 3 weeks? I'm just curious so as to know when exactly to start expecting any results... don't want to get discouraged early on.

Dr. Hulda says to do one every two weeks, whats the average any of you do it?

Also how good a quality olive oil should i get, I have Extra virgin Masters Choice, do i need some REALLLY expensive stuff or should this be fine.

Once again, any help is GREATLY appreciated. thank you.

-ras

Re: Re: Quick Question

i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks with organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting liver flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the first place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then many of my symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which carries all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and so far i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better. thanks everyone.

best regards

sardar

[Guest guest]

Most suggest 2 to 3 weeks in between liver flushes. That allows the

stones from the back to move forward.

I try to use organic extra virgin olive oil. s suggests using

it within a month of opening it, but I've used oil that has been open

for months and have had good flushes.

You don't have to spend an arm and a leg to do this.

If you or anyone else wants me to be available the night of the flush

for any coaching, or last minute advice, I'd be glad to help, as long

as you let me know ahead of time.

Rick

> So, how many times a month should a liver flush be done? You say

that you saw improvements in your third flush Sardar, does that mean

1 1/2 months since you first started or was it 3 weeks? I'm just

curious so as to know when exactly to start expecting any results...

don't want to get discouraged early on.

> Dr. Hulda says to do one every two weeks, whats the average any of

you do it?

> Also how good a quality olive oil should i get, I have Extra virgin

Masters Choice, do i need some REALLLY expensive stuff or should this

be fine.

> Once again, any help is GREATLY appreciated. thank you.

>

> -ras

> Re: Re: Quick Question

>

>

> i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks with

organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting liver

flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the first

place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then many of my

symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which carries

all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and so far

i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better. thanks

everyone.

> best regards

> sardar

[Guest guest]

I may take you up on that offer!! LOL!!

I did post to s, but don't have an answer yet. I think that

the P & B shakes is going to be my first step. Can you suggest a good

source for the " stuff " ? ALso, powder vs caps?

Thanks!

Kim

Can you suggest a good place to get the

> > So, how many times a month should a liver flush be done? You say

> that you saw improvements in your third flush Sardar, does that

mean

> 1 1/2 months since you first started or was it 3 weeks? I'm just

> curious so as to know when exactly to start expecting any

results...

> don't want to get discouraged early on.

> > Dr. Hulda says to do one every two weeks, whats the average any

of

> you do it?

> > Also how good a quality olive oil should i get, I have Extra

virgin

> Masters Choice, do i need some REALLLY expensive stuff or should

this

> be fine.

> > Once again, any help is GREATLY appreciated. thank you.

> >

> > -ras

> > Re: Re: Quick Question

> >

> >

> > i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks

with

> organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting liver

> flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the first

> place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then many of

my

> symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which

carries

> all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and so

far

> i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better.

thanks

> everyone.

> > best regards

> > sardar

[Guest guest]

i have been doing liver flush every week in the past three weeks. i use extra virgin olive oil from the supermarket, mixing it with grapefruit. i used to be allergic to citrus, but i was okay with the mixture. i felt great after my third flush, which was this Satarday, and it was immediate.

best regards

sardarbisvictonics <bisvictonics@...> wrote:

So, how many times a month should a liver flush be done? You say that you saw improvements in your third flush Sardar, does that mean 1 1/2 months since you first started or was it 3 weeks? I'm just curious so as to know when exactly to start expecting any results... don't want to get discouraged early on.

Dr. Hulda says to do one every two weeks, whats the average any of you do it?

Also how good a quality olive oil should i get, I have Extra virgin Masters Choice, do i need some REALLLY expensive stuff or should this be fine.

Once again, any help is GREATLY appreciated. thank you.

-ras

Re: Re: Quick Question

i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks with organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting liver flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the first place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then many of my symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which carries all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and so far i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better. thanks everyone.

best regards

sardar

[Guest guest]

s doesn't suggest P & B shakes saying they can be too harsh on

your system. I tried them, and they made me sick. If you really want

to do them, do them. s suggests colonics instead.

I was very nervous the night of my first flush, and had nobody to ask

what the sensations were that I was having, and after taking the

first dose of epsom salts didn't know if it were ok to drink

something. Please don't hesitate if you want me to be around for

questions when you're ready. You can email me.

Rick

> > > So, how many times a month should a liver flush be done? You

say

> > that you saw improvements in your third flush Sardar, does that

> mean

> > 1 1/2 months since you first started or was it 3 weeks? I'm just

> > curious so as to know when exactly to start expecting any

> results...

> > don't want to get discouraged early on.

> > > Dr. Hulda says to do one every two weeks, whats the average any

> of

> > you do it?

> > > Also how good a quality olive oil should i get, I have Extra

> virgin

> > Masters Choice, do i need some REALLLY expensive stuff or should

> this

> > be fine.

> > > Once again, any help is GREATLY appreciated. thank you.

> > >

> > > -ras

> > > Re: Re: Quick Question

> > >

> > >

> > > i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks

> with

> > organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting

liver

> > flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the first

> > place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then many

of

> my

> > symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which

> carries

> > all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and so

> far

> > i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better.

> thanks

> > everyone.

> > > best regards

> > > sardar

[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot Rick! I have kind of an aversion to the thought of a

colonic...kind of a baby myself. That, plus it is such an " icky "

thing to do. LOL! I know...health is worth it, but from what I

have read the P & B shakes sound good as well. I figured I would start

with 1/2 strength at first.

From what I have read, it looks like I need to get my gut cleaned

out before I do the liver cleanse. Do you think that is right?

> > > > So, how many times a month should a liver flush be done? You

> say

> > > that you saw improvements in your third flush Sardar, does

that

> > mean

> > > 1 1/2 months since you first started or was it 3 weeks? I'm

just

> > > curious so as to know when exactly to start expecting any

> > results...

> > > don't want to get discouraged early on.

> > > > Dr. Hulda says to do one every two weeks, whats the average

any

> > of

> > > you do it?

> > > > Also how good a quality olive oil should i get, I have Extra

> > virgin

> > > Masters Choice, do i need some REALLLY expensive stuff or

should

> > this

> > > be fine.

> > > > Once again, any help is GREATLY appreciated. thank you.

> > > >

> > > > -ras

> > > > Re: Re: Quick Question

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks

> > with

> > > organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting

> liver

> > > flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the

first

> > > place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then

many

> of

> > my

> > > symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which

> > carries

> > > all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and

so

> > far

> > > i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better.

> > thanks

> > > everyone.

> > > > best regards

> > > > sardar

[Guest guest]

Thanks alot Rick. I appreciate it.

-ras

Re: Re: Quick Question> > > i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks with organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting liver flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the first place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then many of my symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which carries all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and so far i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better. thanks everyone.> best regards> sardar