Quick Question

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sardar. Are you meaning you have

three in the same month?

Simona

Re: Re:

Quick Question

i didn't do

parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks with organic coffee enema-5

to 6 enemas per week, before starting liver flush. i am not sure weither

colonic was necessary in the first place? i didn't improve until my third

liver flush, then many of my symptoms are gone . i am convinced

that is the liver which carries all the toxins. i have been doing liver

flush every week, and so far i have not experienced any discomfort except

getting better. thanks everyone.

best

regards

sardar

jcgre <johngrellner@...>

wrote:

Following

s' instructions, no parasite cleanse is required. in

my nine flushes, I never did any.

g

> > Hello;

> > I am new to this post but I

have something I need to say;

> & nbs! p; > I have noticed that

there seems to be two trains of thought on this

> e-mail

> > list. One, is that the

liver flush, done properly with colonics,

> and done

> > properly, will help people

really recover and be able to move on

> with their

> > lives. These

testimonials are given by people that have lived

> through this

> > terrible disease and have

finally gotten some hope for the rest

of their

> > lives. I have not done

a liver flush yet but I am looking forward

> to the

> > hope that is in the future.

> >

> > Another train of thought is

by someone who is trying to sell

products to

> > those of us who are

suffering. I bought into it and tried some

> inul! in which

> > didn't do anything for

me. I get confused when this person is

> constantly

> > nay saying the liver flush

protocal that really works and keeps

> getting onto

> > the glutathiane stuff and

all that cold pressed whey stuff.

> >

> > In the 12 step groups I am

in, which I know that this one is not,

> they have

> > a tradition that they

incorporate in the groups which is that the

> group has

> > " no other

affiliation " , such as someone constantly pushing products

> to the

> > rest of the group. I

wish we could follow that tradition here.

I don't

> > personally have a problem

with the person that is doing this. He is

> trying

> > to make! a living, but for

the good of the group, I wish we could

> have a rule

> > like that. That yes, you can

add posts of your own personal

> experience, but

> > don't try and push your

products and try and make us feel guilty

for not

> > buying certain ones. I

just had to get that off my chest. I have

> suffered

> > too long and hard with

disease to go for more products that just

> don't do

> > much, or just prolong the

agony. Thanks for letting me share.

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From:

" dmichaud1225 " <debsreiki@a...>

> > To:

<candidiasis >

> > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004

11:45 AM

> > Subj! ect:

glutathione

> >

> >

> > > Quotes from this Long

String...

> > >

> > > " If we reduce

toxin load there will be much less glutathione

> > > depletion and thus

better recovery. " " Glutathione is part of that

> > > equation. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This really makes the

case for cleansing the colon &

> > > liver/gallbladder

systems.

> > >

> > > The liver is largely

responsible for synthesizing the three amino

> > > acids (referred to as

Glutathione precursors glycine,

glutamate and

> > > cystine) eats a

diet high in fresh fruits and vegetables and

freshly

> & n! bsp; > > prepared meats,

you should get be getting enough glutamate and

> > > glycine. But cystine

comes mostly from eggs, milk and cheese.

> > >

> > > When eggs, milk and

cheese are cooked or processed, the heat

breaks

> > > down the dipeptides of

cystine to cysteine. While still a valuable

> > > amino acid, it can no

longer feed your glutathione levels. If

you can

> > > get a sufficient supply

of cystine (which determines the rate at

> > > which you can make

glutathione), your arsenal is well-stocked.

So if

> > > you think you are

eating foods that may not have sufficient

amount of

> > > all three amino acids

it is fairly simple and easy to

supplement one

> > > without a great deal of

expense or exclusive/exotic product

purchase.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

You might have a sensitivity to drinking coffee, but the enemas don't work the same way. You are not ingesting it at all, hence you do not have the same side effects. The caffeine works to stimulate the liver and the lining of your colon, to dump toxins and impacted fecal material. But the trick is you must retain it for at least 15 minutes, which can be difficult the first few times. (that and you must, and I mean must, use organic coffee)

You might consider starting with a water, whey, or lemon enema. just heat some pure water to body temperature and then squeeze half a lemon, or add three TBS of whey powder into the water and go from there.

And remember to be kind to yourself. Use the slowest water speed, get comfy, read a good book, whatever makes you happy. You should feel clean and refreshed when you are done!

Hanida

[Guest guest]

Yes Simona. every Saturday, for three weeks in a row. but i will do it every other week from now on, as suggested by Rick, also i will terminate coffee enema. i don't thing it is necessary.

sardarSimona.LIGI@... wrote:

Thank you Sardar. Are you meaning you have three in the same month?

Simona

-----Original Message-----From: snowbar401 [mailto:asardar84@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 12:57 AMcandidiasis Subject: Re: Re: Quick Question

i didn't do parasite cleaning either. i started two weeks with organic coffee enema-5 to 6 enemas per week, before starting liver flush. i am not sure weither colonic was necessary in the first place? i didn't improve until my third liver flush, then many of my symptoms are gone . i am convinced that is the liver which carries all the toxins. i have been doing liver flush every week, and so far i have not experienced any discomfort except getting better. thanks everyone.

best regards

sardarjcgre <johngrellner@...> wrote:

Following s' instructions, no parasite cleanse is required. inmy nine flushes, I never did any.g> > Hello;> > I am new to this post but I have something I need to say;> & nbs! p; > I have noticed that there seems to be two trains of thought on this> e-mail> > list. One, is that the liver flush, done properly with colonics,> and done> > properly, will help people really recover and be able to move on> with their> > lives. These testimonials are given by people that have lived> through this> > terrible disease and have finally gotten some hope for the restof their> > lives. I have not done a liver flush yet but I am looking forward> to the> > hope that is in the future.> >

> > Another train of thought is by someone who is trying to sellproducts to> > those of us who are suffering. I bought into it and tried some> inul! in which> > didn't do anything for me. I get confused when this person is> constantly> > nay saying the liver flush protocal that really works and keeps> getting onto> > the glutathiane stuff and all that cold pressed whey stuff.> >

> > In the 12 step groups I am in, which I know that this one is not,> they have> > a tradition that they incorporate in the groups which is that the> group has> > "no other affiliation", such as someone constantly pushing products> to the> > rest of the group. I wish we could follow that tradition here.I don't> > personally have a problem with the person that is doing this. He is>

trying> > to make! a living, but for the good of the group, I wish we could> have a rule> > like that. That yes, you can add posts of your own personal> experience, but> > don't try and push your products and try and make us feel guiltyfor not> > buying certain ones. I just had to get that off my chest. I have> suffered> > too long and hard with disease to go for more products that just> don't do> > much, or just prolong the agony. Thanks for letting me share.> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "dmichaud1225" <debsreiki@a...>> > <candidiasis >> > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:45 AM> > Subj! ect: glutathione> > > > > > > Quotes from this Long String...> > >> > > "If we reduce toxin load there will be much less glutathione> > > depletion and thus better recovery." "Glutathione is part of that> > > equation."> > >> > >> > >> > > This really makes the case for cleansing the colon & > > > liver/gallbladder systems.> >

>> > > The liver is largely responsible for synthesizing the three amino> > > acids (referred to as Glutathione precursors glycine,glutamate and> > > cystine) eats a diet high in fresh fruits and vegetables andfreshly> & n! bsp; > > prepared meats, you should get be getting enough glutamate and> > > glycine. But cystine comes mostly from eggs, milk and cheese.> > >> > > When eggs, milk and cheese are cooked or processed, the

heatbreaks> > > down the dipeptides of cystine to cysteine. While still a valuable> > > amino acid, it can no longer feed your glutathione levels. Ifyou can> > > get a sufficient supply of cystine (which determines the rate at> > > which you can make glutathione), your arsenal is well-stocked.So if> > > you think you are eating foods that may not have sufficientamount of> > > all three amino acids it is fairly simple

and easy tosupplement one> > > without a great deal of expense or exclusive/exotic productpurchase.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

[Guest guest]

Sardar,

Just wondering what your symptoms were

before the liver flushes ?

RE: Re:

Quick Question

Yes Simona. every

Saturday, for three weeks in a row. but i will do it every other week

from now on, as suggested by Rick, also i will terminate coffee enema. i

don't thing it is necessary.

·

sardar

o

the Terms of Service.

[Guest guest]

hi ;

i had fatigue, mental fogginess, pressure around my eyes- i had difficulty reading and looking at the screen , Gi problems, rectal itching, insomnia, nose and throat congestion, chest pain, eczema, and shoulder and neck pain. mental fogginess is mostly gone, fatigue is minimal, and nose and throat have improved. i had been on many remedies, many suppliments, and was seen by many practioners; i didn't notice any improvement combined what i got from the three liver flushes. i believe i will improve further, because the problems originated from my liver. i have been working with my diet, ruthlessly, and the above modalities i mentioned; until the congested liver is cleaned, i don't think anything else would make a different, at least in my situation.

best regards

sardar B <sbulmer@...> wrote:

Sardar,

Just wondering what your symptoms were before the liver flushes ?

-----Original Message-----From: snowbar401 [mailto:asardar84@...] Sent: March 16, 2004 8:01 AMcandidiasis Subject: RE: Re: Quick Question

Yes Simona. every Saturday, for three weeks in a row. but i will do it every other week from now on, as suggested by Rick, also i will terminate coffee enema. i don't thing it is necessary.

· sardar o the Terms of Service.

[Guest guest]

It's just fabulous to hear about

your improvements dear Sardar. I'm ready too. I'll have my first

next Friday. Tomorrow I will go for the first colonic (as per preparation

protocol). Next Monday I'll go for another colonic and within three weeks

I'll have my second flush.

Simona

RE: Re:

Quick Question

Yes Simona. every Saturday, for three weeks in a

row. but i will do it every other week from now on, as suggested by Rick,

also i will terminate coffee enema. i don't thing it is necessary.

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[Guest guest]

I agree with cleaning the gut. The cleaner the gut, the easier it is

for things to pass through it.

Check the enema and colon hydrotherapy forum at curezone.com. The

person that goes by PTree is a colon hydrotherapist. She has posts

about P & B shakes. Just be careful who you take advice from there.

I've read some that not's correct. Go with how it feels in your heart.

Rick

> Thanks a lot Rick! I have kind of an aversion to the thought of a

> colonic...kind of a baby myself. That, plus it is such an " icky "

> thing to do. LOL! I know...health is worth it, but from what I

> have read the P & B shakes sound good as well. I figured I would

start

> with 1/2 strength at first.

>

> From what I have read, it looks like I need to get my gut cleaned

> out before I do the liver cleanse. Do you think that is right?

>

>

[Guest guest]

that is wonderful Simona. i forgot to mention that my weight loss has stopped too. even though i did the flush every week, and too many coffee enemas, but still i didn't experience any side affects.

good luck.

sardarSimona.LIGI@... wrote:

It's just fabulous to hear about your improvements dear Sardar. I'm ready too. I'll have my first next Friday. Tomorrow I will go for the first colonic (as per preparation protocol). Next Monday I'll go for another colonic and within three weeks I'll have my second flush.

Simona

-----Original Message-----From: snowbar401 [mailto:asardar84@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:37 PMcandidiasis Subject: RE: Re: Quick Question

hi ;

i had fatigue, mental fogginess, pressure around my eyes- i had difficulty reading and looking at the screen , Gi problems, rectal itching, insomnia, nose and throat congestion, chest pain, eczema, and shoulder and neck pain. mental fogginess is mostly gone, fatigue is minimal, and nose and throat have improved. i had been on many remedies, many suppliments, and was seen by many practioners; i didn't notice any improvement combined what i got from the three liver flushes. i believe i will improve further, because the problems originated from my liver. i have been working with my diet, ruthlessly, and the above modalities i mentioned; until the congested liver is cleaned, i don't think anything else would make a different, at least in my situation.

best regards

sardar B <sbulmer@...> wrote:

Sardar,

Just wondering what your symptoms were before the liver flushes ?

-----Original Message-----From: snowbar401 [mailto:asardar84@...] <Sent: March 16, 2004 8:01 AMcandidiasis Subject: RE: Re: Quick Question

Yes Simona. every Saturday, for three weeks in a row. but i will do it every other week from now on, as suggested by Rick, also i will terminate coffee enema. i don't thing it is necessary.

· sardar o the Terms of Service.

[Guest guest]

>

> has anyone had any luck with just the liver flush before doing the

> parasite cleanse? I ask because the parasite cleanse will cost me

> $40-50 to get all of the ingredient together, and right now being a

> student and all, that is really tight money for me... on the other

> hand Hulda's liver flush seems very inexpensive.

Quick answer - we may be good hosts for parasites, but realistically,

low levels do not necessarily be a problem. About 150 of my clients

felt a lot better and got a lot of stones out using the liver flushes

without doing a parasite cleanse at all.

Some 30 or so started on the parasite herbs at the same time as their

first liver flush - the parasite cleanse takes about three months;

long enough for your first 6 liver flushes. Only one or two ever saw

worms, not to say there weren't any.

regards,

Duncan Crow

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Meg -

When I placed my first order with Nordic Naturals I asked the same thing of

the young woman on the line. She explained that ProEFA is the professional

version of the Complete Omega - they do have the same formula but one (and I

honestly can't remember which) has a few extra doses in the bottle. Also, the

packaging on the Complete was designed for the regular consumer in mind and,

comparatively, is more expensive. Go figure!

Sherry

mccoolb <mccoolb@...> wrote:

Nordic Naturals Complete Omega and PROEFA are the same thing right?

I keep comparing the bottle line by line and they are the same thing

but have different labels. Anyone know why? Meg

[Guest guest]

I think the combination of Omega 3 is combined in 1 of the bottles

and separated out in the other. Complete Omega has 60 capsules as

opposed to 90 in Pro-efa and is $5.00 cheaper. the liquid seems to be

equivalent dosages per bottle.

denise

> Nordic Naturals Complete Omega and PROEFA are the same thing right?

> I keep comparing the bottle line by line and they are the same

thing

> but have different labels. Anyone know why? Meg

[Guest guest]

Nah, they are the same formula. The original idea as I understand it

for the labeling was to sell one kind (Pro-EFA) to professionals for

resale and the others (Complete Omega) on the retail market, but then

Shop-in-Service got the professional kind, and this list got to know

the ProEFA name.

Peace,

Kathy E.

On Jun 27, 2004, at 1:34 PM, DMon98 wrote:

> I think the combination of Omega 3 is combined in 1 of the bottles

> and separated out in the other. Complete Omega has 60 capsules as

> opposed to 90 in Pro-efa and is $5.00 cheaper. the liquid seems to be

> equivalent dosages per bottle.

> denise

>

>> Nordic Naturals Complete Omega and PROEFA are the same thing right?

>> I keep comparing the bottle line by line and they are the same

> thing

>> but have different labels. Anyone know why? Meg

>

>

>

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Laurie -

Quick answer - it's great! We bought the first kit and have lent it to our

school to use with Josh (and any other kid who might benefit from it) - if the

SLP understands how to use it (ours did, thank goodness), it's a wonderful tool

although not the only thing that should be used. Josh loves using it and always

asks for the " bok " so we can do the cards while we're eating dinner or

breakfast.

Sherry

The Crouch Family <rcrouchfamily@...> wrote:

has anyone bought or used the kaufman kit? is it useful, worthwhile, etc? what

do you think of it?

Laurie

[Guest guest]

K,

Just from my short experience with AIH, the first doctor I was

treated with, and that did my biopsy, I didn't trust his treatment

decisions, or monitering of my disease, not to mention, he left me

feeling devastated when I found out about this disease, I switched

to a hepatologist, and it was like night and day. You definately

need to find a way to communicate with your doctor, and if you can't

then you need to find one that you can trust.

Kelli

> Hi all, I haven't posted in a while, but do read emails everyday

to see how

> everyone is doing. I have a question that I'm hoping someone can

answer for

> me. Recently I have had problems with my joints aching so when I

went to have

> my blood work done this month I asked him about rheumatoid

arthritis. He

> told me he would run the test. When I got the results, it came

back high.

> Normal was 0-13, mine was 34. He called me to report on my

cholesterol (which

> was a little high) but never even mentioned the RA factor test!

After I

> picked up a copy of my blood work, I called the office. His

nurse said that this

> was normal for a person with autoimmune hepatitis. This is a new

PCP for me

> and I'm just not sure I trust his answer. Has anyone had

something like

> this happen?

> K

[Guest guest]

I'm not an expert, but you caught it so eary and you are repositioning

him off that spot, so I don't think it can get worse. I think since

you have seen improvement, he will continue to improve. Keep up the

great work, Debbie

> Does plagio look worse or better as the head grows? still has

> some flatness (2 months old), but it is MUCH better than when he was

> first diagnosed with Plagio. To me, it looks minor now, but I wonder

> if that is because his head is still so small? Will the flat area

get

> bigger as his head grows or will his other head growth make the flat

> are look like nothing? Does this make sense? The trend

> is " improving " for him, so will it continue to look better or will it

> look worse as his head grows?

[Guest guest]

I'm not an expert, but you caught it so eary and you are repositioning

him off that spot, so I don't think it can get worse. I think since

you have seen improvement, he will continue to improve. Keep up the

great work, Debbie

> Does plagio look worse or better as the head grows? still has

> some flatness (2 months old), but it is MUCH better than when he was

> first diagnosed with Plagio. To me, it looks minor now, but I wonder

> if that is because his head is still so small? Will the flat area

get

> bigger as his head grows or will his other head growth make the flat

> are look like nothing? Does this make sense? The trend

> is " improving " for him, so will it continue to look better or will it

> look worse as his head grows?

[Guest guest]

I was always told that my sons plagio would look better as he grows.

We ended up going with a helmet at about 8 months and he wore it for

about 2 months. His Neuro told us to take it off after that and it

ended up not being on long enough but as my sons head is growing and

hair is growing it is becoming less noticable. He is 15 months now and

it looks pretty good. Your son is son young are you working on repo?

There is alot of " molding " time there for you. Good luck!

> Does plagio look worse or better as the head grows? still has

> some flatness (2 months old), but it is MUCH better than when he was

> first diagnosed with Plagio. To me, it looks minor now, but I wonder

> if that is because his head is still so small? Will the flat area get

> bigger as his head grows or will his other head growth make the flat

> are look like nothing? Does this make sense? The trend

> is " improving " for him, so will it continue to look better or will it

> look worse as his head grows?

[Guest guest]

I was always told that my sons plagio would look better as he grows.

We ended up going with a helmet at about 8 months and he wore it for

about 2 months. His Neuro told us to take it off after that and it

ended up not being on long enough but as my sons head is growing and

hair is growing it is becoming less noticable. He is 15 months now and

it looks pretty good. Your son is son young are you working on repo?

There is alot of " molding " time there for you. Good luck!

> Does plagio look worse or better as the head grows? still has

> some flatness (2 months old), but it is MUCH better than when he was

> first diagnosed with Plagio. To me, it looks minor now, but I wonder

> if that is because his head is still so small? Will the flat area get

> bigger as his head grows or will his other head growth make the flat

> are look like nothing? Does this make sense? The trend

> is " improving " for him, so will it continue to look better or will it

> look worse as his head grows?

[Guest guest]

head should look better as it grows bigger!

> Does plagio look worse or better as the head grows? still

has

> some flatness (2 months old), but it is MUCH better than when he was

> first diagnosed with Plagio. To me, it looks minor now, but I

wonder

> if that is because his head is still so small? Will the flat area

get

> bigger as his head grows or will his other head growth make the flat

> are look like nothing? Does this make sense? The trend

> is " improving " for him, so will it continue to look better or will

it

> look worse as his head grows?

[Guest guest]

head should look better as it grows bigger!

> Does plagio look worse or better as the head grows? still

has

> some flatness (2 months old), but it is MUCH better than when he was

> first diagnosed with Plagio. To me, it looks minor now, but I

wonder

> if that is because his head is still so small? Will the flat area

get

> bigger as his head grows or will his other head growth make the flat

> are look like nothing? Does this make sense? The trend

> is " improving " for him, so will it continue to look better or will

it

> look worse as his head grows?

[Guest guest]

,

Are you okay? Did the stinging go away??

Kelli

> Have any of you ever had one side of your face feel like bees are

stinging

> it? I only feel this on one side and it is annoying. The other side

has a numb

> spot.

> I am so weird.

>

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On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:23:32 EDT , bsmyers3999@... sent:

>

>

>Hi right now it has stopped but it keeps coming back. It is really annoying.

>

>I am trying to get the yard mowed again before more rain hits tonight. We had a

real gully

washer yesterday.

>

>Hope your day is going good and you have your energy back.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amy I can't say for him but for myself I had bad joint and muscle pain and loss

from low T and using the gel like androgel or testim did not help. I got so bad

that I had very hard time waking. I would get up and be in so much pain I could

hardly walk. My back go very bad a and this just added to the probelm. When I

went on shots every week I got much better. My Dr. looked into this and found

that it will take time for my joints and muscles to rebuild them selfs but it is

happening I am now walking one mile a day and working around the yard.

I still have some pain in the morning and use my spa to get going in the

morning.

Phil

Amy <apowers0900@...> wrote:

One of the symptoms I read was loss of muscle mass. Now is that

something that will happen to the whole body at the same time?

The reason I am asking is because about four years ago my DH started

having problems with his right leg. Slowly over the four years his

problem is getting to be more and more (as in after walking on it for

a while he has no control over the movements). This is the only

location he is having this issue.

His GP has run test after test with nothing being found. No pinched

nerve (thought that was it because he has to pick his leg up in order

to lift it with a raised knee to any amount of height), no hip

problem, they have done an MRI, CAT Scan, Xrays and the list goes on.

Could low T be causing something like this or are we also still

needing to be looking for an answer to this?

Amy

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Glad the storm missed you How are things?

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