HELP!!

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At 07:00 03.05.99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: " Peggy DesNoyers " <peggyd7123@...>

>

>I believe it will only be God who can get me through this!!! I was

>diagnosed with candidiasis last Monday and I am on diflucon and a very, very

>strict diet. I feel worse than I did before. I'm hungry all the time. I

>can't figure out what to eat. People, very kind, loving helpful people keep

>giving me advise, but know nothing about this illness and all the books I

>read say slightly different things! Is there any hope?

>

>I do have a question, and I'll stop whining. I could go broke buying

>vitamins and minerals and supplements and my income is limited. What are

>the essesntials? I want to feel as good as possible but I can't go broke

>doing it! Help!!

Hello Peggy,

This is what Dr.Biamonte says about candida:

>>>>>>>>

THE ELIMINATION OF CANDIDA -THE RIGHT WAYS AND THE WRONG WAYS!

By Biamonte, D.N.

WHAT REALLY WORKS!

(1). First eliminate " Parasites. " They can cause Candida by killing the

friendly bacteria just like antibiotics do. Candida is now attacked using

natural herbs that can kill it throughout the body. These herbs can also

kill it in the intestines at the same time. That gives us a head start!

These herbs are not taken all together every day because the Candida will

get use to them. So they must be taken alone, one at a time. We usually use

4 different ones taken each one alone for 4 days.

(2). Candida must be cleaned out from the intestines. At this point we use

a different type of natural Candida killer that can concentrate all its

power on intestinal elimination. These substances can reach yeast that is

hiding in the folds of the intestines. While we do this we also clean out

the whole digestive tract so the killers can contact and reach any Candida

that might be buried under old mucus or hardened feces. After this is

complete friendly acidophilus and bifidus bacteria are given. This prevents

the Candida from growing right back.

Any damage done to the intestines can be repaired at this time. Special

vitamin formulations are used that will reduce inflammation and reform

healthy tissue. Then we can rebalance what went wrong that caused the

Candida to grow per the stool test we talked about before.

(3). Candida causes vitamin deficiencies by preventing their absorption.

Now we can take vitamins without getting bad reactions and no results. When

Candida is eliminated we can begin to take nutrients and ABSORB THE AGAIN!

Now we can feel results from them!

(4). Finally, the immune system can be strengthened without having to

battle a continuous infection! The immune system rarely recovers while

Candida is still there.

I can assure you that if each phase is done, in order to full completion,

the chances are unlikely that the patient will relapse and unlikely that he

or she will still have the underlying weakness which led to going on the

antibiotic that may have induced the yeast infection to begin with.

My experience is that practitioners concentrate only one of these four

phases and neglect the other three. Look at it again. You reduce the

infection first, so you will not produce further toxins so that your colon

or detoxifying regime will be finite and effective. You then normalize

endocrine function. Any toxins store in the thyroid directly, a good

example is mercury. Opening up channels of elimination as in phase two

allow for further cellular detox and endocrine function to resume. Since

the adrenal glands also have a powerful immune stimulation, (sympathetic

innervated immune response), phase three opens up to phase four

reestablishing correct immune response. So there you have it. This is the

solution and correct path to handling this modern scourge. I wish you

well. " -Dr. Biamonte

If you suspect that you have Systemic Candidiasis (systemic means the

infection has spread to other areas, and is not confined to the bowel or

vaginal area), consider carefully the treatment recommended by your health

practitioner. 80% of all the treatments I have come across are either only

temporary in reducing symptoms, very toxic to vital organs such as the

liver, or would take years to truly handle systemic candida.

Signs of overgrowth and the progression of spreading yeast are very similar

in most cases: 1. Gastrointestinal upset, bloating, constipation, itching

rectum, burning stool, gas and cramps, are the first signs of overgrowth.

This overgrowth has a chance to invade other parts of the body. Since the

vaginal tract is close to the anus of a female, this seems to be where

Candida first moves. At this stage, vaginal infections or in a male, jock

itch is common. At this point Candida seems to move through the tract

shared by the reproductive and urinary systems. Most males surveyed who

have C. Albicans appeared to have contracted it after oral sex with an

infected female. For this reason it is common that males end up with the

spores in their lungs!

2. Candida can then break through the intestinal membrane directly into the

blood stream. It travels the body in an immature form, finds a home and as

described above grows into a trouble maker!

3.Fatigue, tired and irritable yet all blood tests values are normal.

Detached state of mind, memory loss, difficulty concentrating.

4.Adult onset allergy. Kurt Donsbach has found allergies start out as being

minor food allergies and spread to chemical allergies of all kinds. Extreme

Allergy - to the point where practically everything effects the person .

The last sign is mental deterioration with depression, delusions, violent

and suicidal tendencies.

TO KILL CANDIDA YOU HAVE TO FOOL IT!

I have found the best results, using four of the thirty-five or so remedies

that I hand picked for the individual in a rotation. Using one for four

days, stopping it, then switching to another for four days, stopping it,

then switching to the next and so on, until all four have been run through

and then repeating the cycle again and again. The trick is that each remedy

has a different chemical action in destroying the yeast. So rotating them

exposes the yeast to different forms of attack. It also ensures that

resistance to the remedy is avoided because use is not continuous.

THE CONFUSION OF TREATMENT

Many practitioners you may visit for candida treatment will tell you one of

four things:

(1). " We must build your immune system " or (2.) " We must detoxify you " , or

(3.) " We must kill your candida " . (4.) ‘ " We must balance your metabolism " .

Some will tell you they must do all four immediately and put you on sixty

products a day. The proper way to handle candida, EBV, HIV, or any such

condition is in four steps. They must be done in an exact order and to full

completion. If not, the patient is likely to relapse. How can you rebuild

the immune system if the person has a raging infection? If your house were

on fire you wouldn’t begin to repair your walls and structures until you

put out the fire, right?

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Cyndi,

If you are having that much pain something is happening. Have you called the

docs yet? They need to know.

gayle/trans.6-99

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Hi Debra- Thanks for answering. What did you do to bring it under control?

The Dr. has already upped her Prednisone from 5 mgs to 20mg, but it hasn't

helped and her #'s just keep going up. She also has much swelling and pain

in joints (especially in her hands and wrists). I feel so helpless being so

far away, but have told her if things get any worse, I'm packing my bags and

coming to CO. Thanks again. Pat (Cyndi's Mom)

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>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:33:47 -0700, egroups wrote:

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>> This is Pat (Cyndi's Mom)yankeeig@.... Cyndi is having a rough

>time right now. She has RUQ(Right Upper Quadrant) Pain and it is really

>laying her low. She says the pain goes all the way around and up her back.

>Says it feels like when they did the liver biopsy (that she can't take a

>deep breath). Anybody have any info on what could be happening here or

what

>we can do to help her ease the pain? If so we could sure use your help. I

>live in WA and she lives in CO so if you post on line we can both see it.

>Thanks!!!

>

>Pat, that is exactly what I was feeling when I was told I had to quit

>school. My liver had enlarged the pain was intolerable and would cramp so

>tightly you could see it on the outside of my body. My liver enzymes

flared

>and I was very sick. The doc said that stress had caused it and increased

>my anxiety meds. I coukd hardly stand and sitting was impossible. I hope

>she can get relief immediatly as the pain has got to be brought under

>control. Let me know what happens. It is the worst and most frightening

>experience imaginable.

>

>Debra

>your gentle friend

>God Bless

>

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Marie,

I have no idea, but if you order the shirts from and send your money

for the picnic to Glo, then even if you can't get into the database you would

still be fine.

HUGS

in ARk

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teehee.. you too, huh? Hey Marie, HUUUUUUGS!!!

aW

Help!!

I can't seem to get my info entered into the database. How do I get

my info in there for picnic and t-shirts???!!!

Marie

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Peta, I didn't have a scan like you've described. The doctor sent

me for an ultrasound to determine whether or not I had a nodule.

Well, we knew really that there was a nodule, they're pretty unmistakable!

But he was looking to see how big and how solid it was, I think.

They also did an FNA (Fine Needle Aspiration) on the nodule to see if it

was cancerous. I had that done twice, actually, quite a few years

apart. These tests might be something that they could do to avoid

the scan. Couldn't hurt to ask.

Donna

http://trak.to/life

www.reliv.com

Take control of your health!

PParkegail@... wrote:

Dear Antjoan,

Thank you so

much for replying so soon. The RAI I'm querying is the scan (small

amount that they say is less than an Xray)..Is there any alternative test

they can use?? I feel that they will try and insist on it because my mother

died of Thyroid cancer. I'm going up the wall with worry.

Peta x

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Dear Peta,

Welcome! It sounds like you caught your symptoms early, which is really great. I had Graves Disease 4 1/2 years ago, took a beta blocker and Tapezole, changed some of the supplements I had been taking and ate lots of broccoli and tofu (as recommended by my Chinese acupuncturist), and was fine after a few months, and have been totally off meds for over 4 years. I think it helped that I caught it early, and that I started weaning myself off the meds as soon as I became slightly hypo, instead of listening to the endo and letting myself get totally hypo and fat. Please read our archives if you can--there's lots of stuff there that will help you. You are wise to be frightened of RAi--it is not a cure, and is to be avoided.

Stay with us--I'm sure someone on this list can answer all your questions.

Good luck and be well,

AntJoan

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Hi Dawn!

Thank you so much for replying so soon. I'm in the South East of England (East Sussex). The Raioactive Iodine scan test is supposed to be less than an X ray in radiation content, and I think they'll blackmail me into having it because of my mother. They will want to see if there are nodules or whatever there. Are there any other tests they can do to rule out nasties?? I'll be seeing the specialist in about 4 or 5 weeks time, and if I can arm myself with knowledge (althought they seem to hate that) and alternatives, I'll feel better able to refuse radioactive stuff altogether. Also, I do NOT want to put on weight!!

If you have time, please tell me why you haven't dared to try Journey work yet!

Love,

Peta x

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Dear Antjoan,

Thank you so much for replying so soon. The RAI I'm querying is the scan (small amount that they say is less than an Xray)..Is there any alternative test they can use?? I feel that they will try and insist on it because my mother died of Thyroid cancer. I'm going up the wall with worry.

Peta x

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Dear Peta,

To answer your questions first - OT means " Off topic " - people label their

emails like this when they want to talk about stuff outside the normal

boundaries of the thyroid subject (like the current global crisis for

instance, or fun things too).

There is a whole load of stuff about vitamins and minerals over on the

iThyroid group. But you've already been there - it's interesting hey? I

found copper a useful supplement but was too nervous to keep introducing

enormous amounts of supplements because I think my digestive system is n't

working properly anyway (aside from the Graves').

The book everyone is referring to is probably the one by Elaine ; she

is a resident expert of this board and has written a brilliantly informative

book about Graves' Disease (the most common cause of hyperthyroidism, I

think anyway!) - I've got a copy and it's great. You can buy it through

Amazon.com if it's not available in the UK - it's published by McFarland and

Co Inc Publishers and is called " Graves' Disease " a practical guide. The

ISBN code is 0-7864-1011-6.

Do you know if you are going to have an uptake scan, or if they are jsut

sending you for an ultrasound?

Welcome to the group - I am originally from the UK too - but now living in

Australia. I was diagnosed hyperthyroid last year, June 2000, whilst I was

in London visiting my Dad who was ill in hospital. He got better which is

great, but I developed raging hyperthyroidism and ended up staying in the UK

for about six months. They thought that I was allergic to the meds so were

going to push me through to RAI, but I managed to wiggle out of that one due

largely to the emotionsal support and the information and encouragement from

this group which helped me RESEARCH before I let other people make

irreversible decisions that would effect me for the rest of my life. I

found reading the archives of this group, and the graves-support group

incredibly interesting. It has taken a long time with me, I think I have

some extra gut problems that may or may not be related to thyroid, but I ws

treated wiht ATDs and am now on a minimal dose and stableised with normal

thyroid function.

The thing taht put me off RAI most is that it totally destroys the thyroid

gland. One of the things that made me firmer in my stance about hanging

onto my thyroid gland was the fact that science is progressing at such a

rate, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that they'll come up with

some brilliant treatment SOON. I couldn't bear the thought that I might get

my thyroid gland destroyed and then not be able to have any treatment that

might be invented in the near future.

I can't chat for as long as I want to right now, but I was really interested

by your post because you are from the UK and I know I found it a struggle to

get them to do the right tests over there. I was in London, and everywhere

they said that they simply didn't run the thyroid antibody test that is

indicitve of Graves' because they could diagnose it from several other bits

of information. I would love to know where in the UK you are, how you are

going with appointments etc and hope you are doing better than I did. I'm

all for the national health system, but I found it very slow in dealing with

my thyroid problem (which escalated very quickly for me) and found that

nobody would listen when I refused RAI. I said no, and they made me an

appointment to see the radiologist!

ALSO - I too have recently read Bays Journey and was impressed. I

also am interested in taking it further and perhaps doing a workshop or

journey therapy of some kind, but so far, I just bought the tapes and have

not found the courage to even do them!

Looking forward to chatting to you more.

DAWN ROSE

>From: PParkegail@...

>Reply-hyperthyroidism

>hyperthyroidism

>Subject: HELP!!

>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:37:13 -0000

>

>This sounds like a great support group! I've recently been told I

>have an overactive thyroid. For a few weeks I'd been feeling shaky

>(especially knees and hands) heart rate up to about 120 whenever I

>walked around, breathlessness, sweating etc.. terrifying! I had blood

>tests on my birthday (!) a couple of weeks ago, and that was the

>diagnosis. My doctor has referred me to a specialist, for a scan he

>says, I've heard awful things about RAI - so I'm doubly scared! In

>the meantime he's put me on Beta Blockrers (Propanolol) Half Inderal

>LA - 80 mg per day, and I'm feeling a bit better. Theweight loss has

>stopped tho and it's doing weird things in the toilet department!!

>I'm really interested in the naturapathic approach, and I noticed you

>referred to a supplements list and lemon balm. Please could you let

>me know about this. So far I 've been onto www.ithyroid.com which is

>really interesting. I'm reading The Journey by Bays and may

>go to a Journey therapist (Releasing trauma etc from the cell memory

>so it doesn't keep passing on in the body). What is O.T. the book

>you've been discussing please?I understand that thyroid disorder runs

>in families?? I know that hyperthyroidism is very common, but my

>mother died of thyroid cancer and I am paralysed with fear about all

>this (I also have 3 children).

>Any encouraging,informative and supportive replies would be very much

>appreciated.

>Thank you (and many warm wishes from the U.K. to your beautiful

>country)

>Peta x

>

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Peta,

The thyroid scan and uptake is not the

same as RAI. It

is a very simple procedure, I had it done twice! This is not done to

destroy the thyroid but used as a diagnostic tool since the thyroid is the only

gland that soaks up the iodine in your body. A little bit of radioactiveness is added in order for the counter to pick up the amount

absorbed. It is painless. As for the scan, all it is is a big

x-ray like machine that takes extended pics of your thyroid while you lay down

on a table. Both tests take less

than an hour. Really

nothing to be concerned about.

Re:

HELP!!

Dear Antjoan,

Thank you so much for replying so soon. The RAI I'm

querying is the scan (small amount that they say is less than an Xray)..Is

there any alternative test they can use?? I feel that they will try and insist

on it because my mother died of Thyroid cancer. I'm going up the wall

with worry.

Peta x

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I agree although a lot of people don't like any additional radiation in

their body. The uptake test and scan are absolutely nothing to be

concerned about. I believe I have heard that ultrasound may be used

instead but don't know any details. I feel for you with your fear. By

the way, hyperthyroidism can make you anxious and panicky. If you feel

that way, I would call your doctor

K

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Dear Peta,

I think Elaine can reply as to alternative tests. I had the scan, but I wouldn't do it again, because from what I've learned on this board, other tests are just as accurate, and do not involve radiation.

Best,

AntJoan

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I know that any amount of radiation sounds scary, but I would have the scan

done because at least then you will know for sure that it is Graves that is

causing you to be hyper and not something else. Take care.

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At 10:35 AM 2/1/02, tomkody22 wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I was wondering if anyone out there has any info about the upcoming

>verbal behavior conference in Portland, Maine. I called to register

>and spoke with someone. I was supposed to get a registration form in

>the mail and never did. I cannot find the phone number to call

>again!!! I really don't want to miss this. If anyone has any info,

>please email me.

>

>Thanks!!!!!

>

I am probably going to go to this in Portland, Maine.

I have the info some place if you don't get it sooner so let me know.

Jennie

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What part of the country do you live in? I would look into lyme disease as

the symptoms and rapid decline are characteristic of it; although the

diagnosis is tricky and some doctors miss it or even mis-diagnose it. Has he

been evaluated for this?

Good luck; I hope you figure out whats behind the decline in his health.

ph

>>>>>>For the past month my husband has been gradually getting worse.

Started off with lower back pain, then leg spasms, fatigue, blurred

and sometimes doubled vision, dizziness, drop in body temp (he's

contstantly freezing but just in his legs) and also has frequent

mucus stools. He also has a mouth full of " silver " filling. He was

sent to see a neurolgist and had a MRI and a vision evoked response

test (awaiting results of that one)...MRI showed no tumors...ect...

When i brought up the possiblity of mercury posioning to the

neurologist and his

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> For the past month my husband has been gradually getting worse.

> Started off with lower back pain, then leg spasms, fatigue, blurred

> and sometimes doubled vision, dizziness, drop in body temp (he's

> contstantly freezing but just in his legs) and also has frequent

> mucus stools.

Hi,

This sounds so much like how I felt right after I had my son

Is your husband taking any vitamins/supplements at all? I think it would help

a lot. Also, I think somebody mentioned lyme. Have you consider something

like that? or toxoplasmosis, or something similar? Is he feeling better if he

takes antivirals? You should try Ibuprofen.

Good luck!

Valentina

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--- Valentina Ardelean <val@...> wrote:

> > For the past month my husband has been gradually

> getting worse.

> > Started off with lower back pain, then leg spasms,

> fatigue, blurred

> > and sometimes doubled vision, dizziness, drop in

> body temp (he's

> > contstantly freezing but just in his legs) and

> also has frequent

> > mucus stools.

>

> Hi,

> This sounds so much like how I felt right after I

> had my son

> Is your husband taking any vitamins/supplements at

> all? I think it would help

> a lot. Also, I think somebody mentioned lyme. Have

> you consider something

> like that? or toxoplasmosis, or something similar?

> Is he feeling better if he

> takes antivirals? You should try Ibuprofen.

> Good luck!

>

>

> Valentina

>

He does take a multivitamin daily but that's it as

far as supplements. I did some reading on lyme disease

and i'm not a dr. but i don't think that's what it is.

I know the neurologist is waiting for the last test to

come back before making a diagnosis of MS but..i have

my doubts about that too, even though his symptoms are

all there....of course after reading all the things

mercury can do to a person, i think i see it

everywhere lol....and my husband also works in a

papermill around chemicals all day and has for 20

years so who knows what he has going through his

system...also you mentioned ibuprofen, he did that 4

at a time 3 x's a day and it did nothing...i know this

group is for autism but the mercury thing just had me

wondering...maybe??

>

>

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>For the past month my husband has been gradually getting worse.

>Started off with lower back pain, then leg spasms, fatigue, blurred

>and sometimes doubled vision, dizziness, drop in body temp (he's

>contstantly freezing but just in his legs) and also has frequent

>mucus stools. He also has a mouth full of " silver " filling. He was

>sent to see a neurolgist and had a MRI and a vision evoked response

>test (awaiting results of that one)...MRI showed no tumors...ect...

>When i brought up the possiblity of mercury posioning to the

>neurologist and his primary physician they thought i was insane!!

well, this seems to be common. although surely no fun!

>They would not sign off on a DDI test and with him being out of work

>now for over a month money is to tight to order the other test

>without the insurance coverage....do this symptoms correspond with

>mercury tox?

you can read some more about mercury toxic symptoms here:

http://www.noamalgam.com

From what i read they do...correct if wrong please...any

>advice on what i should do and what i can do to help my husband in

>the mean time....all they did for him so far is give him valium and

>meclizne for dizziness!!!

I am sorry to say there is not a whole lot you can do to detox mercury

with a mouth full of fillings. IF his symptoms are from mercury (which

I do not know one way or another) then taking saunas may help. You

could try that. Hot baths are not quite as good, but if you can

work up a good sweat it may help a bit. Getting fillings replaced is

(unfortunatly) quite costly. So I would try saunas if available and

hot baths WITH SWEATING if sauna is hard to come by. I am thinking

you would need to do this quite a bit in order to try to get any idea

if it helps.

He may also want to try taking some or all of the supplements that

are recommended for mercury toxic people. You can find some discussion

of this in this file:

/files/ANDY_INDEX

Look in section on supplements.

I'm sorry I am not of more help.

best wishes,

Moria

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>. If any of you know of

> a doctor in NY who would just sign my tests and leave me alone, I

> would appreciate the info. Thanks a million for your help.

> My best for all of you.

>

>

Hi ,

Well, not exactly, but close. Read the stuff in the first part

of this file about Direct Lab Services. It is sort of in the

direction you are asking about:

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

However, I believe that there is some sort of problem with hair

tests in particular in New York. Like the labs can't run them

if you are in NY. Or something. This may be a bit of a special

challenge.

best wishes,

Moria

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> After gathering some information from lurking on a couple of great

> lists such as this one, I have put together a list of tests and

> laboratories to use for them that I would like to share with you for

> your comments, addtions, deletions, clarifications, all the help you

> can give me.

>

> TEST LAB

> *Secretin, Glutten, Casein Bio Reference Lab

> *Essential Fatty Acids Great Plains

Where is this actually run?

The report format from Great Smokies is infinitely more interpretable

than any others I have seen.

> *Organic Acid Test Great Plains

I have had a lot better luck interpreting the results of OAT's from

Great Smokies or MetaMetrix.

> *CBC Quest

> Hair Analysis DDI

> *Comprehensive digestive stool Great Smokies

They are good. DDI also has a good test.

> Fractionated Urine Porphyrins ?

> (do I need this for blood & feces?)

Only urine. You can use a spot sample with the info on it in the

files section. If you are sure your kid is toxic you don't have to do

the test - it is to convince yourself that is the problem.

> Plasma cysteine ?

Only lab I konw of that does this one is Great Smokies.

> *Bacteria, yeast sensitivity Great Smokies

> *Urinary Polypeptides with IAG AAL Reference Laboratories

> *IgG1 & 4 Food Antibody Assay with diet MetaMetrix

> *Chemical Screen Panel +HDL *

>

> *Tests marked were performed March, 2000. We did some GFCf diet and

> some supplements and stopped. Before I restart all over again, I

> would like to know my before and after results. If any of you know

of

> a doctor in NY who would just sign my tests and leave me alone, I

> would appreciate the info. Thanks a million for your help.

> My best for all of you.

>

>

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Hi ,

Some of the children I work with see Dr. Marvin Boris and his P.A.

(physician's assistant), Alan Goldblatt out in Nassau County, Long Island

(Woodbury). Their phone is 516-921-3456.

They use the DAN approach and frankly, I don't think they are so great or

comprehensive in their approach, however, my experience is that they would

rather keep a patient than force their protocols. When push comes to shove,

I have seen them basically do what parents request if it is somewhat

reasonable including ordering tests.

Jay

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,

From an MBA to a CPA, forget the numbers. They don't work with

Autism. What does work is chelation, and I pay close attention to

those " numbers " . I've met many who have never run tests, and I'm sort

of angry at myself that I did run tests and paid lots of money for

them! If I had to do it over again, I would run the Liver Function,

CBC, etc to make sure that my son's body could handle the chelation

and then go with it. In 6 months, my son has gone from a nonverbal,

low-functioning autistic boy to become verbal and a lot more

functioning. It's like a true miracle. And yes, I follow what Andy

here says to the letter (almost). What sold me was this, if my son

has no toxins, the DMSA and ALA won't have anything to " grab " thus all

I will have lost is a few dollars. But, if he does have toxins, I

would know from his reactions, like talking.... Of course, I also

give supplements (per DAN protocol) and mostly GFCF, and have recently

added enzymes from groups recommendations . The

worst you can do is wait to chelate, because its harder as they get

older. And, believe me I am very much into number and analysis but

time is not on your son's side.

Debbie (son, age 5)

> After gathering some information from lurking on a couple of great

> lists such as this one, I have put together a list of tests and

> laboratories to use for them that I would like to share with you for

> your comments, addtions, deletions, clarifications, all the help you

> can give me, for goodness gracious! I am a CPA. What am I doing

> outside my numbers? (I'm the mom of a nonverbal, low-functioning

> autistic boy!!!, that's what!!!)

>

> TEST LAB

> *Secretin, Glutten, Casein Bio Reference Lab

> *Essential Fatty Acids Great Plains

> *Organic Acid Test Great Plains

> *CBC Quest

> Hair Analysis DDI

> *Comprehensive digestive stool Great Smokies

> Fractionated Urine Porphyrins ?

> (do I need this for blood & feces?)

> Plasma cysteine ?

> *Bacteria, yeast sensitivity Great Smokies

> *Urinary Polypeptides with IAG AAL Reference Laboratories

> *IgG1 & 4 Food Antibody Assay with diet MetaMetrix

> *Chemical Screen Panel +HDL *

>

> *Tests marked were performed March, 2000. We did some GFCf diet and

> some supplements and stopped. Before I restart all over again, I

> would like to know my before and after results. If any of you know

of

> a doctor in NY who would just sign my tests and leave me alone, I

> would appreciate the info. Thanks a million for your help.

> My best for all of you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

> believe me I am very much into number and analysis but

> time is not on your son's side.

Anyone who is seriously into numbers can use the information in the

diagnosis section of Amalgam Illness: Diangosis and Treatment to

calculate a probability their kid has mercury/heavy metals versus any

other choice. There are lots of good quantitative decision making

tools in the management and economics literature once you have

probabilities, costs, and benefits.

Or you can just do it by the seat of your pants and go for it.

Andy . . . .. .