Salt

July 5, 2007

,

You wrote:

>

> Perhaps Chick should re-read S Kuhn's 'The Structure of

> Scientific Thought' which basically said that the more educated a person

> is in his field, the harder it is to change their mind...

In case you hadn't heard, even Kuhn retracted his claims about paradigm

shifts long before he died. He realized he " cherry picked " his data and

claimed uncommon patterns as the usual. The resulting explanations were

largely discredited within a decade after he wrote.

I would say that willingness to change views is more an individual

characteristic than one of education. The most stubborn people I have

met were incredibly ignorant and did not want anyone confusing them with

facts. Science in general is based on empirical evidence. If you want to

change a scientist's mind, just show him or her compelling evidence.

Chuck

July 5, 2007

D999,

You wrote:

>

> Potassium, water, salt and Hypothyroidism. What is the relationship of

> all of them in the body?

Potassium and sodium run your nervous system. Under normal conditions,

your body maintains a delicate balance between them. If you are

accumulating potassium abnormally, it can cause a heart attack by over

amping the nerve signals. When they give people potassium supplements,

it has to be monitored fairly carefully. So, please get that checked.

Also, you might want to be particularly careful about taking Iodoral.

Roughly half of the iodine in it is there as _potassium_ iodide.

Chuck

July 6, 2007

Yeah; I know about letting chlorinated tap water sit before putting it

into your fish tank. I don't have a fish tank, but many years ago my

kids [who now have kids] had a small fish tank. And when my wife went

on a trip and I had to take care of the fish, guess how I learned that

you're not supposed to top of the fish tank with fresh tap water!

> .

>

> Salt

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> Posted by: " HeartfeltTherapy@... " HeartfeltTherapy@...

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> heartfelt_therapy <heartfelt_therapy>

>

> Thu Jul 5, 2007 10:17 pm (PST)

>

> you wrote: You can't put plain tap water in your fresh water

> fish bowl;

> I believe because of the chlorine. Maybe the other trace elements in

> regular

> salt are not the right kind for salt water fish. After all, the sodium

> chloride of sea salt is the same as the sodium chloride of table salt

> IMHO.

>

> ,

>

> I appreciate your inclusion of IMHO. You can put your fresh water fish

> into a

> bowl filled with tap water, but only after letting it sit for 24

> hours, so

> that the chlorine evaporates out of it. When using a tank instead of a

> bowl, I

> usually add a de-chlorination solution to save time, and still have to

> let it

> sit, but I also add some slick gooey stuff which is supposed to keep

> them from

> getting infected from anything that could be introduced into the water

> during

> feedings. I usually also place my little fresh water fish in their bag

> into

> the water for at least one hour and up to about four hours so the

> temperature of

> the water in the bag is the same as the temperature in the bowl/tank.

> I do

> add plain tap water to my tanks to top them off when the water

> evaporates out a

> little. You are correct, and yet not exactly on the money.

>

> If it were the other trace elements in table salt that are not the

> right kind

> for salt water fish, then processed Kosher salt should work! (As it

> doesn't

> have the added pouring agents or preservatives)

> . Anyone out there willing to

> risk their very expensive salt water fish to find out?

>

> I also appreciate that you seem to see a possible correlation between

> fish

> being able to live in the water and it's health affects on the body?

> So are you

> thinking perhaps it's the trace elements in table salt which might not

> be so

> good, such as the pouring agents or preservatives?

>

> I wonder if there are any survivalist out there?.... If so, how much

> fresh

> water is needed to be added to ocean water in order to make it

> drinkable for

> humans? I've seen something on it, where fresh water was collected

> from night

> moisture and/or rain in a tarp, and added to ocean water in order to

> drink it

> safely. The idea being that you might not be able to collect enough

> fresh water

> out at sea to keep alive, but if you mixed it with sea water, you could.

>

July 6, 2007

,

You wrote:

> ... I also add some slick gooey stuff which is supposed to keep

> them from getting infected from anything that could be introduced into the

water

> during feedings....

As I recall, the active ingredient in such preparations is .... salt. Irony.

> ... If it were the other trace elements in table salt that are not the right

> kind for salt water fish, then processed Kosher salt should work! (As it

doesn't

> have the added pouring agents or preservatives). Anyone out there

> willing to risk their very expensive salt water fish to find out?

Just ask your local pet store what is in their " aquarium salt. "

This is what cichlid-forum.com says about it:

" There are a lot of misconceptions about the various salts available for

aquarium use. One such misunderstanding is that non-iodized salt is not

the same as aquarium salt nor are either of these the same as marine

salt. Table Salt is nothing more than Sodium Chloride (NaCl). It comes

in iodized and non-iodized forms. Aquarium Salt is very similar to table

salt inasmuch as it is made of Sodium Chloride (NaCl) as well; however,

it lacks anti-caking ingredients and iodine. "

Salt taken from the sea also contains some magnesium, sulfur (in

sulphate ions), calcium, potassium, and (horrors!) bromine, with a long

list of trace ingredients, including most of the nastiest heavy metals

and several that are radioactive alpha emitters. However, the fraction

of these other elements is tiny compared to the brine, and they

evidently don't play much role in the health of the fish.

Here is the complete list in mg/liter of ocean:

Chlorine, Cl 19,500

Sodium, Na 10,770

Magnesium, Mg 1,290

Sulphur, S 905

Calcium, Ca 412

Potassium, K 380

Bromine, Br 67

Carbon, C 28

Nitrogen, N 11.5

Strontium, Sr 8

Oxygen, O 6

Boron, B 4.4

Silicon, Si 2

Fluorine, F 1.3

Argon, Ar 0.43

Lithium, Li 0.18

Rubidium, Rb 0.12

Phosphorus, P 0.06

Iodine, I 0.06

Barium, Ba 0.02

Molybdenium, Mo 0.01

Arsenic, As 0.0037

Uranium, U 0.0032

Vanadium, V 0.0025

Titanium, Ti 0.001

Zinc, Zn 0.0005

Nickel, Ni 0.00048

Aluminium, Al 0.0004

Cesium, Cs 0.0004

Chromium, Cr 0.0003

Antimony, Sb 0.00024

Krypton, Kr 0.0002

Selenium, Se 0.0002

Neon, Ne 0.00012

Manganese, Mn 0.0001

Cadmium, Cd 0.0001

Copper, Cu 0.0001

Tungsten, W 0.0001

Iron, Fe 0.000055

Xenon, Xe 0.00005

Zirconium, Zr 0.00003

Bismuth, Bi 0.00002

Niobium, Nb 0.00001

Thallium, Tl 0.00001

Thorium, Th 0.00001

Hafnium, Hf 7 x 10-6

Helium, He 6.8 x 10-6

Beryllium, Be 5.6 x 10-6

Germanium, Ge 5 x 10-6

Gold, Au 4 x 10-6

Rhenium, Re 4 x 10-6

Cobalt, Co 3 x 10-6

Lanthanum, La 3 x 10-6

Neodymium, Nd 3 x 10-6

Lead, Pb 2 x 10-6

Silver, Ag 2 x 10-6

Tantalum, Ta 2 x 10-6

Gallium, Ga 2 x 10-6

Yttrium, Y 1.3 x 10-6

Mercury, Hg 1 x 10-6

Cerium, Ce 1 x 10-6

Dysprosium, Dy 9 x 10-7

Erbium, Er 8 x 10-7

Ytterbium, Yb 8 x 10-7

Gadolinium, Gd 7 x 10-7

Praseodymium, Pr 6 x 10-7

Scandium, Sc 6 x 10-7

Tin, Sn 6 x 10-7

Holmium, Ho 2 x 10-7

Lutetium, Lu 2 x 10-7

Thulium, Tm 2 x 10-7

Indium, In 1 x 10-7

Trebium, Tb 1 x 10-7

Palladium, Pd 5 x 10-8

Samarium, Sm 5 x 10-8

Tellurium, Te 1 x 10-8

Europium, Eu 1 x 10-8

Radium, Ra 7 x 10-11

Protactinium, Pa 5 x 10-11

Radon, Rn 6 x 10-16

Yum! Please pass the salt.

Chuck

November 30, 2008

Have you looked into adrenal fatigue?

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of almelissa

Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:44 PM

Subject: salt

Hi my 6 year old ASD son likes to eat salt. If I leave the salt shaker

anywhere were he can get it he will pour some in his hand and eat it.

Does this indicate some sort of deficiency?

Thanks

November 30, 2008

This is interesting to me. I'm pretty sure I have adrenal fatigue (I sure have

the signs...), and I have been craving salt. I asked our naturepath about it

yesterday, and she mentioned that I probably need the potassium. But I also

cannot sit in jacuzzis or saunas, because I get really dizzy, and she said

that's from low blood pressure (which I know I do have).

So maybe the salt helps with all of this. Just a thought.

________________________________

From: <hisblueeyes@...>

Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:00:01 AM

Subject: RE: salt

Have you looked into adrenal fatigue?

From:

[mailto:] On Behalf Of almelissa

Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:44 PM

Subject: salt

Hi my 6 year old ASD son likes to eat salt. If I leave the salt shaker

anywhere were he can get it he will pour some in his hand and eat it.

Does this indicate some sort of deficiency?

Thanks

November 30, 2008

Iodine? Have you had his thyroid levels checked?

December 2, 2008

> Hi my 6 year old ASD son likes to eat salt. If I leave the salt shaker

> anywhere were he can get it he will pour some in his hand and eat it.

> Does this indicate some sort of deficiency?

Adrenal fatigue is one possibility

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp

http://www.drrind.com/adrensupport.asp

Dana

January 6, 2009

Make sure you use dirty-looking (unrefined) sea salt, not the white

one, which is processed. The dirty-looking (gray or pink) sea salt has

lots of healthy minerals in it.

Here are some links that will help you know more about salt and water,

etc:

http://www.curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp

http://www.watercure.com/index.html

Regarding the iodine, my naturopathic doctor has told me to put iodine

drops (Lugol's) into water and drink it that way. I won't give you my

protocol, because that only pertains to me and my condition. I'm not

sure if you'll need to do a thyroid test or not. Perhaps someone more

knowledgeable about that in this group can answer that.

Healthseeker

>

> I haven't done extensive research into all of this, but as far as I

> have, it seems that sea salt is the healthiest of salts. I've heard

> that your typical " table salt " (usually with iodine) contains

> aluminum. But, I know Iodine is important (and actually the amount in

> table salt isn't enough for the average person anyhow- just enough to

> prevent goiter apparently) so should I be giving my son supplemental

> iodine? Does anyone here do that? If so, what form? Do you use lugol's

> iodine and paint it on? Is this determined by thyroid testing?

>

January 6, 2009

Have a browse at www.iodine4heatlth.com <http://www.iodine4heatlth.com>

there is a lot of information there about using iodine. If there are any

sort of thyroid disorders in the family throw out any iodised salt that

you have - normal seasalt is fine but not salt that has been iodised.

Somthing about the way it is aggravates autoimmune thyroid problems.

Normal table salt usually has an aluminium based additive in it to help

it stay dry and run smoothly when you pour it. There is not enough

iodine naturally in seasalt to meet the needs of most people who need

extra iodine. A good salt needs to be unrefined and sourced from an area

with no contamination issues.

When you add iodine supplementation you also may need to add selenium -

these two minerals have a very important balancing act and supplementing

one out of balance with the other can aggravate things. The iodine

group can give you feedback on how to supplement with iodine - painting

it on is a bit unreliable.

Gail