Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 If I were you, I would do some extensive research on the flu vaccine. You may use the CDC’s Adverse Event Reporting System and just review the adverse reactions posted. And those are just the reactions that have been reported. The flu vaccine contains a fairly significant amount of aluminum…which is linked to breast cancer and Alzheimer’s disease. For what it’s worth…the Children’s Arthritis Foundation recommends that pediatric arthritis sufferers refrain from ALL vaccines, due to the effects on their already compromised immune systems. Kathy…researching LDN for diabetes From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of marshiris@... Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:40 AM low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re:Flu Vaccine All i know is, i have taken the shot each & every year; but the one year i missed it - i caught the flu, becme dehydrated, suffered kidney failure & was hospitalized for 2 days, which were horrifying to experience!! sure don't want a repeat of that, so i'm looking forward to getting the shot this year! marshiris@... crohn's disease 17 years LDN CREAM - 1 YEAR Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1697 - Release Date: 9/29/2008 7:40 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1697 - Release Date: 9/29/2008 7:40 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Larry, Having MS does not make one an expert at information on flu vaccines. Those with AI diseases are at increased risk of opportinistic diseases including the flu. Yes, the flu can kill you. Many times a secondary pneumonia follows an acute onset of the flu. A lot of people die each year from this pneumonia. There is a lot of misinformation on the web about the dangers of flu vaccines and other vaccines as well. For example, since there was some ex-playboy centerfold who wrote a book about autism and a vaccine, a lot of mothers are not vaccinating their kids. The downside of this is we are seeing an almost epidemic of mumps, chicken pox and rubella. Nice decision, huh? The CDC has studied side effects and secondary problems from vaccines and found pretty much zilch. No, they are not in the pockets of "Big Pharma" as some believe. The only issue with the flu vaccine is if one is allergic to eggs or has had or has the DNA of Guillian Barre' syndrome. This is after YEARS of study and research and MILLIONS of doses. It is a risk vs benefit thing. I, and most all my medical colleages take the benefit of the vaccine. That should speak volumes. While I respect Dr. Bihari's research and genius, not every research doctor is right on everything. Even Linus ing was pretty much disproven on vitamin C and colds. Finally, I talked today with a multi-board certified infectious disease doctor. This guy is ultra-conservative in areas of giving too many antibiotics or other powerful drugs. But he has taken the flu vaccine himself for 25 years - this is a guy who sees the end result of many flu patients, and he has no financial incentive here. We both agree that it is up to all of us to decide what is best for us and take command of our health care, but one should have ALL the facts and not make life and health threatening decisions based on limited information. Best regards, bob C >> Dr. Bihari was against the flu shot because of what it contains:> > http://tinyurl. com/583mcw> > Art> --> > > > >> > Yes, but Dr. Bihari was very much against the Flu shot.> > > > Art> > --> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Dr. Bihari was ONE doctor that said NO. MY own doctors were the others, not just one of mine, but all that I see that I discussed it with, before and after going on LDN. There's also MSG in those shots, and mercury. So it's more than just egg allergy. MSG affects MANY and they HIDE it in the ingredients! To each their own... everyone must make their own decision. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccine Larry, Having MS does not make one an expert at information on flu vaccines. Those with AI diseases are at increased risk of opportinistic diseases including the flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I think that we are in this mess that we are in - of so many immune system " conditions " - because if ALL the vaccines that are thrown at us. If I could do it all over again I would NOT vaccinate my children at all - I stopped giving them vaccines after it was too late and my daughter contracted crohns. .... again, just follow the money trail. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccine   Dr. Bihari was ONE doctor that said NO. MY own doctors were the others, not just one of mine, but all that I see that I discussed it with, before and after going on LDN.  There's also MSG in those shots, and mercury. So it's more than just egg allergy. MSG affects MANY and they HIDE it in the ingredients!  To each their own... everyone must make their own decision.   Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccine Larry,  Having MS does not make one an expert at=2 0information on flu vaccines.  Those with AI diseases are at increased risk of opportinistic diseases including the flu.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I totally agree with you. Google vitamin D and flu. Also take a good multivitamin and eat well to support your immune system. An RN friend of mine works with Dr Sherry Tenpenny here's what Dr Tenpenny says : http://www.jeffreywarber.com/hc%20pages/fluscam2.html#anchor12 http://www.nmaseminars.com/ http://www.vran.org/vaccines/doctors/s-tenpenny.htm Pam ,M.S.,RRT Holistic Nutrition Coach > > I think that we are in this mess that we are in - of so many immune > system " conditions " - because if ALL the vaccines that are thrown at us. > If I could do it all over again I would NOT vaccinate my children at > all - I stopped giving them vaccines after it was too late and my > daughter contracted crohns. > ... again, just follow the money trail. > > > Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  >  > Dr. Bihari was ONE doctor that said NO. MY own > doctors were the others, not just one of mine, but all that I see that > I > discussed it with, before and after going on LDN. >  > There's also MSG in those shots, and mercury. So > it's more than just egg allergy. MSG affects MANY and they HIDE it in > the > ingredients! >  > To each their own... everyone must make their own > decision. >  >  > > Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu > Vaccine > > > > > > > Larry, >  > Having MS does not make one an expert at=2 > 0information on flu > vaccines. >  > Those with AI diseases are at increased risk of opportinistic > diseases including the flu. >  >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I don't know if this was just coincidence but the first, and only, time I ever got a flu shot was about 3 weeks before I first started having symptoms which eventually led to my diagnosis of MS. Kinda strange huh? My assortment of docs over the years (since diagnosis) have always told me NOT to have another flu shot. I'm not one who normally gets the flu so maybe that's why. One actually told me that I may have had a reaction and that reaction may have started the MS Ball rolling. Maybe that was my trigger?? I just know I'm not taking the chance again. Maybe when I'm much older and in danger of the flu killing me but for now it scares me too much. I think to vacinate or not to vacinate is a personal decision.Take Care,TonetteSPMSBeautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado From: mdsport85@... <mdsport85@...>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccinelow dose naltrexone Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:46 AM I think that we are in this mess that we are in - of so many immune system "conditions" - because if ALL the vaccines that are thrown at us.If I could do it all over again I would NOT vaccinate my children at all - I stopped giving them vaccines after it was too late and my daughter contracted crohns.... again, just follow the money trail. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccine Dr. Bihari was ONE doctor that said NO. MY owndoctors were the others, not just one of mine, but all that I see that Idiscussed it with, before and after going on LDN. There's also MSG in those shots, and mercury. Soit's more than just egg allergy. MSG affects MANY and they HIDE it in theingredients! To each their own... everyone must make their owndecision. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: FluVaccineLarry, Having MS does not make one an expert at=20information on fluvaccines. Those with AI diseases are at increased risk of opportinisticdiseases including the flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Dr Tenpenny is selling supplements on her web site. What a surprise. "Just follow the money trail...." From: Pam ,M.S.,RRT <quantumwellness@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccinelow dose naltrexone Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 12:55 PM I totally agree with you.Google vitamin D and flu. Also take a good multivitamin and eat well to support your immune system. An RN friend of mine works with Dr Sherry Tenpenny here's what Dr Tenpenny says : http://www.jeffreyw arber.com/ hc%20pages/ fluscam2. html#anchor12http://www.nmasemin ars.com/ http://www.vran. org/vaccines/ doctors/s- tenpenny. htmPam ,M.S., RRTHolistic Nutrition Coach>> I think that we are in this mess that we are in - of so many immune > system "conditions" - because if ALL the vaccines that are thrown at us.> If I could do it all over again I would NOT vaccinate my children at > all - I stopped giving them vaccines after it was too late and my > daughter contracted crohns.> ... again, just follow the money trail.> > > Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccine> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  >  > Dr. Bihari was ONE doctor that said NO. MY own> doctors were the others, not just one of mine, but all that I see that > I> discussed it with, before and after going on LDN.>  > There's also MSG in those shots, and mercury. So> it's more than just egg allergy. MSG affects MANY and they HIDE it in > the> ingredients!>  > To each their own... everyone must make their own> decision.>  >  > > Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu> Vaccine> > > > > > > Larry,>  > Having MS does not make one an expert at=2> 0information on flu> vaccines.>  > Those with AI diseases are at increased risk of opportinistic> diseases including the flu.>  >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 I agree to some extent here, believe it or not. There is some evidence that thowing all these inmmunizations at us in a short time frame is problematic for children, and can lead to other problems. I understand they have newer timetables that spread out the immunization process. I hope all children are vaccinated for polio, at least.... Best regards Bob C From: mdsport85@... <mdsport85@...>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccinelow dose naltrexone Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 8:46 AM I think that we are in this mess that we are in - of so many immune system "conditions" - because if ALL the vaccines that are thrown at us.If I could do it all over again I would NOT vaccinate my children at all - I stopped giving them vaccines after it was too late and my daughter contracted crohns.... again, just follow the money trail. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu Vaccine Dr. Bihari was ONE doctor that said NO. MY owndoctors were the others, not just one of mine, but all that I see that Idiscussed it with, before and after going on LDN. There's also MSG in those shots, and mercury. Soit's more than just egg allergy. MSG affects MANY and they HIDE it in theingredients! To each their own... everyone must make their owndecision. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: FluVaccineLarry, Having MS does not make one an expert at=20information on fluvaccines. Those with AI diseases are at increased risk of opportinisticdiseases including the flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I would just quit any job that had that requirement. Alobar On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM, elaine1231 <elaine1231@...> wrote: > any ideas on how to get out of the mandatory flu vaccine in NY for health care workers, etc.? > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 www.theflucase.com www.fluscam.com this will give you a good start.....!! ajd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Below from Alternative Medicine Forum. Alobar N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine _http://wcbstv.com/topstories/swine.flu.h1n1.2.1216352.html_ (http://wcbstv.com/topstories/swine.flu.h1n1.2.1216352.html ) (http://wcbstv.com/topstories/swine.flu.h1n1.2.1216352.html ) Saying They Should Be Given A Choice, Employees Rally In Albany, Around State, Chant " No Forced Shots! " Protesters Hold Signs That Read: " The State Doesn't Own My Body' " Reporting _ McLogan_ (http://wcbstv.com/bios/.McLogan.WCBS.9.8602.html ) STONY BROOK, N.Y. (CBS) -- They're upset over an ultimatum from the health department. Workers are being told to either get the swine flu vaccine or lose their jobs. New York is the first state in the country to mandate flu vaccinations for its health care workers. The first doses of swine flu vaccine will be available beginning next week. Much of it is reserved for state health care workers, but there is growing opposition to required innoculations. Health care workers in Hauppauge screamed " No forced shots! " as they rallied Tuesday against the state regulation requiring them to roll up their sleeves. " I don't even tend to the sick. I am in the nutrition field. They are telling me I must get the shot because I work in a health clinic setting, " said a Small, a Women, Infants and Children health care worker. Small said she will refuse, worried the vaccine is untested and unproven, leaving her vulnerable. In 1976, there were some deaths associated with a swine flu vaccination. Registered nurse Mannino, 50, was also angry. He said the state regulation violates his personal freedom and civil rights. " And now I will lose my job if I don't take the regular flu shot or the swine flu shot. " _Should Workers Be Forced To Get Vaccinated? Comment On This Story!_ (http://wcbstv.com/formsection?fid=1084794 ) When asked if he's willing to lose his job, Mannino said, " Absolutely. I will not take it, will not be forced. This is still America. " The protest also shook Albany Tuesday. Hundreds of demonstrators demanded freedom of choice. After all, as health care professionals they argue they're already constantly washing their hands and aren't likely to transmit or contract the flu. Around 500,000 health care workers are slated to receive the vaccine. " It's certainly their prerogative to voice their opinion, " said Dr. Donelan of Stony Brook University Hospital. Donelan said most in the medical community see the benefits and safety of the shots and welcome them, and that hospitals must obey the law. " Our hospital is committed to following the mandate to have our personnel vaccinated, " she said. The state said change was needed this year to save lives, typically only about 45 percent of health care workers take advantage of voluntary flu vaccines. More than 150 institutional outbreaks of seasonal and H1N1 flu are expected this year in hospitals, nursing homes and hospice centers. New York and New Jersey will get their first doses of the swine flu vaccine next week. It will be the nasal mist, not a shot. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM, elaine1231 <elaine1231@...> wrote: > any ideas on how to get out of the mandatory flu vaccine in NY for health care workers, etc.? > > thanks > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 even more nervous now... I thought NY was mandating the flu vaccine only and not the swine flu as well. Very scary... > > any ideas on how to get out of the mandatory flu vaccine in NY for health care workers, etc.? > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Well here we are again,fall is here, newspapers are telling you where to get your shots, and drug stores are now certified to give the shots and I expect discussions about whether they are safe and who should have them rages on. I'm sure there will be positive and negative responses to this post, but it is public health news and everyone should decide for themselves whether they want to take the risk. Everything you put in your mouth is a risk because of the allergies that patients may have to certain ingredients. Some of the ingredients themselves have come into question, but I live in America and we still have a choice to decide whether it is right for us. To each his own and please don't shoot the messanger. LOL. The shots this year will include 3 strains as noted below: FRIDAY, July 30 (HealthDay News) -- " The annual flu vaccine for the 2010-2011 influenza season has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the agency said Friday. The yearly vaccine protects against the three strains predicted to be most prevalent in the United States. This year's shot includes protection against the H1N1 ( " swine " ) flu that emerged in 2009. The specific strains are: a.. A/California/7/09 (H1N1)-like virus (pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus) b.. A/Perth /16/2009 (H3N2)-like virus c.. B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus " Brand names and manufacturers for the vaccine are: Afluria, CSL Limited; Agriflu, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics; Fluarix, GlaxoKline Biologicals; FluLaval, ID Biomedical Corporation; FluMist, MedImmune Vaccines Inc.; Fluvirin, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited; and Fluzone and Fluzone High-Dose, Sanofi Pasteur Inc. " FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 > > Well here we are again,fall is here, newspapers are telling you where to get your shots, and drug stores are now certified to give the shots and I expect discussions about whether they are safe and who should have them rages on. I'm sure there will be positive and negative responses to this post, but it is public health news and everyone should decide for themselves whether they want to take the risk. Everything you put in your mouth is a risk because of the allergies that patients may have to certain ingredients. Some of the ingredients themselves have come into question, but I live in America and we still have a choice to decide whether it is right for us. To each his own and please don't shoot the messanger. LOL. The shots this year will include 3 strains as noted below: > FRIDAY, July 30 (HealthDay News) -- > > " The annual flu vaccine for the 2010-2011 influenza season has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the agency said Friday. The yearly vaccine protects against the three strains predicted to be most prevalent in the United States. This year's shot includes protection against the H1N1 ( " swine " ) flu that emerged in 2009. The specific strains are: > > a.. A/California/7/09 (H1N1)-like virus (pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus) > b.. A/Perth /16/2009 (H3N2)-like virus > c.. B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus > " Brand names and manufacturers for the vaccine are: Afluria, CSL Limited; Agriflu, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics; Fluarix, GlaxoKline Biologicals; FluLaval, ID Biomedical Corporation; FluMist, MedImmune Vaccines Inc.; Fluvirin, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited; and Fluzone and Fluzone High-Dose, Sanofi Pasteur Inc. " > > FYI, > > Lottie Duthu ___________________________________ Hi Lottie, Dr. Druker always tell his patients to get the flu shot, and that is good enough for me. They want the shot to be 'inactivated' vaccine. Also, this year there is a high dose version for those over age 65 and with health issues.....I asked his nurse Carolyn if I should get the high dose shot (with 3-4 x the dosage), I am under age 65 (close, just 63) and Dr. Druker responded to just get the regular shot. That's what I know. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Hi Lottie: I just went today for mine, and my arm is sore but otherwise fine. I also got my Pneumonia shot. They changed all the recommendations on that also. It has been 8 years since my last one, and my Oncologist told me she wanted me to get it. They say before your 65 and then once after your 65. I will just be 63 in Nov. So when would I be due again or if at all. I have had Pneumonia twice, so I guess she was being cautious.    Its true everyone has to decide what to do with regard to the shots. From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> Subject: [ ] Flu Vaccine " CML " < > Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 12:58 PM  Well here we are again,fall is here, newspapers are telling you where to get your shots, and drug stores are now certified to give the shots and I expect discussions about whether they are safe and who should have them rages on. I'm sure there will be positive and negative responses to this post, but it is public health news and everyone should decide for themselves whether they want to take the risk. Everything you put in your mouth is a risk because of the allergies that patients may have to certain ingredients. Some of the ingredients themselves have come into question, but I live in America and we still have a choice to decide whether it is right for us. To each his own and please don't shoot the messanger. LOL. The shots this year will include 3 strains as noted below: FRIDAY, July 30 (HealthDay News) -- " The annual flu vaccine for the 2010-2011 influenza season has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the agency said Friday. The yearly vaccine protects against the three strains predicted to be most prevalent in the United States. This year's shot includes protection against the H1N1 ( " swine " ) flu that emerged in 2009. The specific strains are: a.. A/California/7/09 (H1N1)-like virus (pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus) b.. A/Perth /16/2009 (H3N2)-like virus c.. B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus " Brand names and manufacturers for the vaccine are: Afluria, CSL Limited; Agriflu, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics; Fluarix, GlaxoKline Biologicals; FluLaval, ID Biomedical Corporation; FluMist, MedImmune Vaccines Inc.; Fluvirin, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited; and Fluzone and Fluzone High-Dose, Sanofi Pasteur Inc. " FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 I was told one shot whenever and 6 years after and no more. 2010, 12:58 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Hi : I got my last shot in 2001, after having Pneumonia. Its 9 years for me now, and my Oncologist wanted me to get it. I think it was Once and then again after 65 and no more. I am not 65 yet, but I think this was my last one. > > I was told one shot whenever and 6 years after and no more. > > > > 2010, 12:58 PM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 > > Well here we are again,fall is here, newspapers are telling you where to get your shots, and drug stores are now certified to give the shots and I expect discussions about whether they are safe and who should have them rages on. I'm sure there will be positive and negative responses to this post, but it is public health news and everyone should decide for themselves whether they want to take the risk. Everything you put in your mouth is a risk because of the allergies that patients may have to certain ingredients. Some of the ingredients themselves have come into question, but I live in America and we still have a choice to decide whether it is right for us. To each his own and please don't shoot the messanger. LOL. The shots this year will include 3 strains as noted below: > FRIDAY, July 30 (HealthDay News) -- > > " The annual flu vaccine for the 2010-2011 influenza season has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the agency said Friday. The yearly vaccine protects against the three strains predicted to be most prevalent in the United States. This year's shot includes protection against the H1N1 ( " swine " ) flu that emerged in 2009. The specific strains are: > > a.. A/California/7/09 (H1N1)-like virus (pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus) > b.. A/Perth /16/2009 (H3N2)-like virus > c.. B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus > " Brand names and manufacturers for the vaccine are: Afluria, CSL Limited; Agriflu, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics; Fluarix, GlaxoKline Biologicals; FluLaval, ID Biomedical Corporation; FluMist, MedImmune Vaccines Inc.; Fluvirin, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited; and Fluzone and Fluzone High-Dose, Sanofi Pasteur Inc. " > > FYI, > > Lottie Duthu > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 I just got my flu shot Wednesday. When I was diagnosed 2 years ago I got the pnemonia shot and also flu. I was told to get the flu shot every year. I have always had bad winters are far as sickness. I got pretty sick after the flu shot last year, but aside from alittle nausea I feel fine after this last shot. My love and prayers to all of you. Peggy Becker Connected by MOTOBLUR™ on T-Mobile Re: [ ] Flu Vaccine Hi : I got my last shot in 2001, after having Pneumonia. Its 9 years for me now, and my Oncologist wanted me to get it. I think it was Once and then again after 65 and no more. I am not 65 yet, but I think this was my last one. > > I was told one shot whenever and 6 years after and no more. > > > >  2010, 12:58 PM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Hi All. I was told by my internist that the the new 3 in one flu vaccine doesn't have any live virus in it. He said that last year the H1N1 was given too quickly because it was found that the same ingredients were in the flu vaccine. I believe he said that people who have bad reactions might be allergic to eggs. (I am gathering that it must be in the ingredients).Last year my internist insited that my grandson and daughter, Robyn,get the injection for both, not the mist. He said that the mist did have live viris in it. Therefore, that is what my daughter and grandson did. Neither had any reaction. I took mine on Tues. and had no reaction. Whateer you do, don't take the newest shot in mist form. Sandi > > > > Well here we are again,fall is here, newspapers are telling you where to get your shots, and drug stores are now certified to give the shots and I expect discussions about whether they are safe and who should have them rages on. I'm sure there will be positive and negative responses to this post, but it is public health news and everyone should decide for themselves whether they want to take the risk. Everything you put in your mouth is a risk because of the allergies that patients may have to certain ingredients. Some of the ingredients themselves have come into question, but I live in America and we still have a choice to decide whether it is right for us. To each his own and please don't shoot the messanger. LOL. The shots this year will include 3 strains as noted below: > > FRIDAY, July 30 (HealthDay News) -- > > > > " The annual flu vaccine for the 2010-2011 influenza season has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the agency said Friday. The yearly vaccine protects against the three strains predicted to be most prevalent in the United States. This year's shot includes protection against the H1N1 ( " swine " ) flu that emerged in 2009. The specific strains are: > > > > a.. A/California/7/09 (H1N1)-like virus (pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus) > > b.. A/Perth /16/2009 (H3N2)-like virus > > c.. B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus > > " Brand names and manufacturers for the vaccine are: Afluria, CSL Limited; Agriflu, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics; Fluarix, GlaxoKline Biologicals; FluLaval, ID Biomedical Corporation; FluMist, MedImmune Vaccines Inc.; Fluvirin, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited; and Fluzone and Fluzone High-Dose, Sanofi Pasteur Inc. " > > > > FYI, > > > > Lottie Duthu > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Hi: I know all about the mist shot, and I would never do that. They have different combinations each year, and doing the 3 in one was a bad move on my part. I have scared a lot of people with what happened to me , and now they said they are splitting up the time between a Pneumonia and Flu Shot. Also this year its a flu/H1N1 combination. I think even if its not a live virus, the compound used can be bad for some and no reaction for others. Just glad its over with, and I am getting better. I have to say it lasted from Wed. night through Friday. Something really did not work right for me. From: Sandy <sandi3533@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Flu Vaccine Date: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 3:24 PM  Hi All. I was told by my internist that the the new 3 in one flu vaccine doesn't have any live virus in it. He said that last year the H1N1 was given too quickly because it was found that the same ingredients were in the flu vaccine. I believe he said that people who have bad reactions might be allergic to eggs. (I am gathering that it must be in the ingredients).Last year my internist insited that my grandson and daughter, Robyn,get the injection for both, not the mist. He said that the mist did have live viris in it. Therefore, that is what my daughter and grandson did. Neither had any reaction. I took mine on Tues. and had no reaction. Whateer you do, don't take the newest shot in mist form. Sandi > > > > Well here we are again,fall is here, newspapers are telling you where to get your shots, and drug stores are now certified to give the shots and I expect discussions about whether they are safe and who should have them rages on. I'm sure there will be positive and negative responses to this post, but it is public health news and everyone should decide for themselves whether they want to take the risk. Everything you put in your mouth is a risk because of the allergies that patients may have to certain ingredients. Some of the ingredients themselves have come into question, but I live in America and we still have a choice to decide whether it is right for us. To each his own and please don't shoot the messanger. LOL. The shots this year will include 3 strains as noted below: > > FRIDAY, July 30 (HealthDay News) -- > > > > " The annual flu vaccine for the 2010-2011 influenza season has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the agency said Friday. The yearly vaccine protects against the three strains predicted to be most prevalent in the United States. This year's shot includes protection against the H1N1 ( " swine " ) flu that emerged in 2009. The specific strains are: > > > > a.. A/California/7/09 (H1N1)-like virus (pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus) > > b.. A/Perth /16/2009 (H3N2)-like virus > > c.. B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus > > " Brand names and manufacturers for the vaccine are: Afluria, CSL Limited; Agriflu, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics; Fluarix, GlaxoKline Biologicals; FluLaval, ID Biomedical Corporation; FluMist, MedImmune Vaccines Inc.; Fluvirin, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited; and Fluzone and Fluzone High-Dose, Sanofi Pasteur Inc. " > > > > FYI, > > > > Lottie Duthu > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 That is correct! The mist is a live vaccine! So, if you are immunocompromised or have CML I would reccommend not the mist!!! Do any of you have any input on the pneumonia vaccines? ________________________________ From: Sandy <sandi3533@...> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 3:24:49 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Flu Vaccine  Hi All. I was told by my internist that the the new 3 in one flu vaccine doesn't have any live virus in it. He said that last year the H1N1 was given too quickly because it was found that the same ingredients were in the flu vaccine. I believe he said that people who have bad reactions might be allergic to eggs. (I am gathering that it must be in the ingredients).Last year my internist insited that my grandson and daughter, Robyn,get the injection for both, not the mist. He said that the mist did have live viris in it. Therefore, that is what my daughter and grandson did. Neither had any reaction. I took mine on Tues. and had no reaction. Whateer you do, don't take the newest shot in mist form. Sandi > > > > Well here we are again,fall is here, newspapers are telling you where to get >your shots, and drug stores are now certified to give the shots and I expect >discussions about whether they are safe and who should have them rages on. I'm >sure there will be positive and negative responses to this post, but it is >public health news and everyone should decide for themselves whether they want >to take the risk. Everything you put in your mouth is a risk because of the >allergies that patients may have to certain ingredients. Some of the ingredients >themselves have come into question, but I live in America and we still have a >choice to decide whether it is right for us. To each his own and please don't >shoot the messanger. LOL. The shots this year will include 3 strains as noted >below: > > > FRIDAY, July 30 (HealthDay News) -- > > > > " The annual flu vaccine for the 2010-2011 influenza season has been approved >by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the agency said Friday. The yearly >vaccine protects against the three strains predicted to be most prevalent in the >United States. This year's shot includes protection against the H1N1 ( " swine " ) >flu that emerged in 2009. The specific strains are: > > > > a.. A/California/7/09 (H1N1)-like virus (pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza >virus) > > b.. A/Perth /16/2009 (H3N2)-like virus > > c.. B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus > > " Brand names and manufacturers for the vaccine are: Afluria, CSL Limited; >Agriflu, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics; Fluarix, GlaxoKline >Biologicals; FluLaval, ID Biomedical Corporation; FluMist, MedImmune Vaccines >Inc.; Fluvirin, Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited; and Fluzone and >Fluzone High-Dose, Sanofi Pasteur Inc. " > > > > FYI, > > > > Lottie Duthu > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I am not really sure how " new " antibodies could be harmful. Rick Furman Mel wrote: > What is the latest thinking on killed virus flu vaccines for > us with CLL? My doc at Sloan Kettering (NYC) says no. She > feels that any new antibodies could be harmful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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