Shots

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Sharon...

I use capsicum in my practice for many purposes but one is to drive other

herbs or therapies deeper into the tissues. I use it in almost all the

herbal formulas I make. It is in the lyme formula as well. It improves

circulation into deep tissue.

Personal call on hepatis vaccinations. Being a naturopath I don't use

vaccinations. I use homeopathic formulas instead. Many people get vaccinated

with no problems but some can have major problems from them. If you do use

vaccines make sure it is not based on a live sample or weakened or

attenuated virus.

Best wishes...Byron

[Lyme-aid] shots

>From: " melillo " <mellillo1@...>

>

>Do you all think it is advisable for my daughter who has had Lyme for 2

>years and still is on treatment to have the Hepatisis B shot before she

>leaves for college. I am concerned it will knock her already weak immune

>system for a loop but don't want to be foolish.

>Also, thanks to Lymebrain, I forget what the use of the hot peppers are? Is

>it to increase core temp.? I know you already told me but I forget.

>Thanks, Sharon

>

>

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Hi Sharon,

I got the shot about two years into lyme, I work for a school district and

they had to do it twice, get a blood test about 8 weeks after to see if it

shows. It did not bother me either time, mydoctor recommended I do, since my

immune system is such a mess.

Hope this helps,

Connie, MI

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In a message dated 7/23/99 10:53:02 PM Central Daylight Time,

mellillo1@... writes:

<< Do you all think it is advisable for my daughter who has had Lyme for 2

years and still is on treatment to have the Hepatisis B shot before she

leaves for college. I am concerned it will knock her already weak immune

system for a loop but don't want to be foolish. >>

IMHO, I would not touch any vaccination at this point with an impaired immune

system.

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In a message dated 7/25/99 2:55:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Golfdawg@...

writes:

<< << Do you all think it is advisable for my daughter who has had Lyme for 2

years and still is on treatment to have the Hepatisis B shot before she

leaves for college. >>

I have seen that routine vaccination of infants with 3 doses of the hep

vaccine has been halted....and being a student she probably does not have any

unusual risk factors...in N.J, it is not a required vaccine...I have been

asked if I have wanted it over the years, and I have always declined....B

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In a message dated 8/20/00 4:31:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

2byteme@... writes:

<< Basically you can use any part of your body if you do it correctly,

and that is the key.

For what it's worth, I do my shots on my derriere - lol. It hurts a lot

less. Also, the angle of the needle is important to avoid those red patches.

The flow of the interferon should be right under the skin. Take a look at

the needle - you want the angled opening of the needle to face up when

injecting.

Peace,

Jane

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/00 4:31:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

2byteme@... writes:

<< Basically you can use any part of your body if you do it correctly,

and that is the key.

For what it's worth, I do my shots on my derriere - lol. It hurts a lot

less. Also, the angle of the needle is important to avoid those red patches.

The flow of the interferon should be right under the skin. Take a look at

the needle - you want the angled opening of the needle to face up when

injecting.

Peace,

Jane

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/00 4:31:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

2byteme@... writes:

<< Basically you can use any part of your body if you do it correctly,

and that is the key.

For what it's worth, I do my shots on my derriere - lol. It hurts a lot

less. Also, the angle of the needle is important to avoid those red patches.

The flow of the interferon should be right under the skin. Take a look at

the needle - you want the angled opening of the needle to face up when

injecting.

Peace,

Jane

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/00 4:31:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

2byteme@... writes:

<< Basically you can use any part of your body if you do it correctly,

and that is the key.

For what it's worth, I do my shots on my derriere - lol. It hurts a lot

less. Also, the angle of the needle is important to avoid those red patches.

The flow of the interferon should be right under the skin. Take a look at

the needle - you want the angled opening of the needle to face up when

injecting.

Peace,

Jane

[Guest guest]

hi chris

my name is rosemary welcome to the group. i am sorry to hear of your loss. i

find depression one of the hardest things to deal with this disease. i have

psoriasis and arthritis. i will be starting a new med. tomorrow (enbrel by

injection) and i am nervouse about it. it is so importamt to keep a positive

attitude. i hope you have other support in your life and its good to have some

hobbies to keep busy. i am fairly new to this group too. there seems to be

much support to be had in this group. please feel free to email me anytime.

rosemary

[Guest guest]

No, Tam....it's 3 a week. The needle is very very tiny...barely feel it at

all (honest!) and yes there is a new interferon called PEG. It's injected

only once weekly, also self administered. But it has yet to be approved for

general use. Right now it is in study for naive patients and failed response

to 'combo'. Best to wait if u can. Either way, Tx is NOT pleasant (my

experience). What are your numbers, geno-type etc? gee

[Guest guest]

No, Tam....it's 3 a week. The needle is very very tiny...barely feel it at

all (honest!) and yes there is a new interferon called PEG. It's injected

only once weekly, also self administered. But it has yet to be approved for

general use. Right now it is in study for naive patients and failed response

to 'combo'. Best to wait if u can. Either way, Tx is NOT pleasant (my

experience). What are your numbers, geno-type etc? gee

[Guest guest]

Tammie as far as the shots go belive me its like a day at the park.Ask

your doctor for the pen.It set pre set .as far as the pain goes to me

that was easy part.what my DR.told me I should is to do is move the

shots from my right arm then left arm then my right thigh to left

thigh then start the same all over this way you will not get sore from

the shots that was the easy part the hard part is starting it because we

worry to much.My 6 months flew except for some of the side effects .but

its all behind me now .good luck

WAYNE M

[Guest guest]

Tammie as far as the shots go belive me its like a day at the park.Ask

your doctor for the pen.It set pre set .as far as the pain goes to me

that was easy part.what my DR.told me I should is to do is move the

shots from my right arm then left arm then my right thigh to left

thigh then start the same all over this way you will not get sore from

the shots that was the easy part the hard part is starting it because we

worry to much.My 6 months flew except for some of the side effects .but

its all behind me now .good luck

WAYNE M

[Guest guest]

Hi everybody: I have a question about the shots. I keep hearing that some of you get rashes, is that at the shot site or everywhere? Also, how long after you turn in your script, does it take to actually get the meds?

My sister has MS and she had to take interferon everyday and the places where she got the injections swelled and turned red. What I found funny was that they had to moniter her liver functions while she was taking it. I guess if you have a healthy liver it might effect it.

Someone also said that they have a puppie...what kind and how old? I have a ragdoll kitty. She is almost a year old, and she already weighs 10lbs. If anyone out there is on SSI, you can have your pet documented as your emotional support animal and share of cost for any vet treatments. Just thought I would toss that in there for info.

Have a great evening and God Bless

Sandy

[Guest guest]

> I have been injecting in the thigh. I pull back on the syringe, but I can't

> get a good look to see if I've hit a blood vein. After the shot, I have

> quite a bit of bleeding. Is that normal? How can I tell if the shot took?

From what I've been told, if you were to aspirate (pull back on the syringe)

and the needle was in a vein, you'd see very quickly. I did an experiment once

to make myself feel better. I used some household cooking oil and a bit of

water colored with food coloring. I pulled up 0.5 cc of the oil into the

syringe as if I were doing the Depo-T, and then I put the needle into the

colored water and pulled back there. The colored water came up very quickly

and I could see it in the syringe.

As far as telling if the shot " took " , if you've injected about an inch in,

then I'm sure you're fine.

The resultant bleeding is probably because you've nicked a vein on the way

into the muscle. I've had this happen several times, and firm pressure on the

injection site with a cotton ball for 10-15 seconds is usually sufficient to

stop the bleeding entirely. When this happens, there may be a bit of bruising

for the next couple of days, but that's nothing to worry about.

> I was so worried that I tried it again in the other leg: was that a poor

> decision?

If you mean that you injected your normal dose twice, once into each leg,

that's not a good thing to do. If you did this, contact your doctor to find

out whether you should adjust or skip your next dose.

--Marc

[Guest guest]

The whole idea of injecting into the thigh is so you don't hit a blood vein.

Inject it directly into your blood stream and it will kill you!

That's why is say's on the package for " Intramuscular use only " .

Injecting twice probably won't do you any harm, so long as you don't make a

habit of it. I used to inject into my thigh (Now a nurse does it for me). I

rarely used to get any blood, but sometimes the needle hits a capillary

(blood vessel) which is nothing to be concerned about. However if you are

bleeding excessively, that means your blood may not be clotting correctly

and you may want to discuss that with your endo or GP.

Steph

----- Original Message -----

From: " thyme2k2 "

Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:28 PM

> I have a question about my shots, however. Currently, I am on 200mg

> depo every other week, with 5g AG during the in-between week. I am

> worried that I am not doing the shots correctly. I have been

> injecting in the thigh. I pull back on the syringe, but I can't get a

> good look to see if I've hit a blood vein. After the shot, I have

> quite a bit of bleeding. Is that normal? How can I tell if the shot

> took? I was so worried that I tried it again in the other leg: was

> that a poor decision?

>

> Thanks

[Guest guest]

Mine and most now a days are once weekly, then the pills daily. I choose to

do mine on Saturday evening for I have Sunday and Monday off and figured

most of it might be worn off by the time I had to work on Tuesday. So far

it has worked.

[ ] Shots

I forget who's post I read it on, but does treatment consist of

shots daily? Maybe I mis-understood the doc...I thought Shane would

have 1 shot weekly. How many different types of treatment are there?

Jen

[Guest guest]

That's a good idea, Shane could take his on Friday if he chose, then

Tommy and I could help him along during the weekend.

> Mine and most now a days are once weekly, then the pills daily. I

choose to

> do mine on Saturday evening for I have Sunday and Monday off and

figured

> most of it might be worn off by the time I had to work on

Tuesday. So far

> it has worked.

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> I forget who's post I read it on, but does treatment consist of

> shots daily? Maybe I mis-understood the doc...I thought Shane

would

> have 1 shot weekly. How many different types of treatment are

there?

>

> Jen

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[Guest guest]

Also the new stuff (Pegasus) doesn't have near as many of the old scary side

effects. I been doing pretty well and I think Tammie is still having an

easy time.

Plus most people here say the first month is the hardest, so far the 1st

week I hated, 2nd week I liked until the doc tried some other pills on me

(made my feel ucky), and I will let you know about the 3rd week shortly.

LOL Lynne

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> I forget who's post I read it on, but does treatment consist of

> shots daily? Maybe I mis-understood the doc...I thought Shane

would

> have 1 shot weekly. How many different types of treatment are

there?

>

> Jen

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[Guest guest]

I take shots daily but I was a non responder to peg intron. I am on

infergen.

Debbie

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the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in

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[ ] Shots

I forget who's post I read it on, but does

treatment consist of

shots daily? Maybe I mis-understood the

doc...I thought Shane would

have 1 shot weekly. How many different types

of treatment are there?

Jen

[Guest guest]

Some insurance companies let you self-inject. Others don't.

In a message dated 8/17/2004 8:30:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

ogarchamplin@... writes:

I used to go to the PCP once a month to get a shot of test. But now

i am trying the AndroGel. But my Endo said that if it dose not raise

my levels he wants my PCP to increase my shots to either weekly or

bi weekly. My question is can i give the shot to myself without

having to drive to my PCP everyweek and pay a copay?

[Guest guest]

Yes. I did that when I got tired of going to my PCP.

I assume injections are intramuscular. That might mean reaching around to

reach the upper outer quadrant of the buttocks. I never was confident enough

to do the " gymnastics " , but my wife learned how to inject & was better than the

nurse.

Your PCP or his assistant should show you where to inject. You want to miss

the sciatic nerve and a major blood vessal back there.

Bruce

> I used to go to the PCP once a month to get a shot of test. But now

> i am trying the AndroGel. But my Endo said that if it dose not raise

> my levels he wants my PCP to increase my shots to either weekly or

> bi weekly. My question is can i give the shot to myself without

> having to drive to my PCP everyweek and pay a copay?

[Guest guest]

For you guys that give yourself IM shots - where exactly do you

inject? My endo is having my nurse (my mother-in-law) inject into my

rear end. I want to eventually learn to do them myself, but I don't

think I can make the reach to where she injects.

Does it absorb better in the rear end than in other places?

Thanks,

Mark

[Guest guest]

> For you guys that give yourself IM shots - where exactly do you

> inject? My endo is having my nurse (my mother-in-law) inject into my

> rear end. I want to eventually learn to do them myself, but I don't

> think I can make the reach to where she injects.

>

> Does it absorb better in the rear end than in other places?

>

> Thanks,

> Mark

If I have help, I use my rear end. Otherwise I do my own in the

quadriceps. Delts can be done but it is no easier for me to reach

than my rear.

Brad

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

There are instructions and injection site pictures at:

http://devweb3.vip.ohio-state.edu/Materials/PDFDocs/medicatn/geninfo/intrain

j.pdf

(Note: the above long URL might be " broken " in this message, so you might

need to cut & paste it.)

FYI, I just added this and a subq page bookmark in our Links section here.

Bruce

> For you guys that give yourself IM shots - where exactly do you

> inject? My endo is having my nurse (my mother-in-law) inject into my

> rear end. I want to eventually learn to do them myself, but I don't

> think I can make the reach to where she injects.

>

> Does it absorb better in the rear end than in other places?

>

> Thanks,

> Mark