Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Hope you're on good terms with your mother-in-law. Don't think you want to piss her off now. another gay man --- mdw1000 <mdw1000@...> wrote: > For you guys that give yourself IM shots - where > exactly do you > inject? My endo is having my nurse (my > mother-in-law) inject into my > rear end. I want to eventually learn to do them > myself, but I don't > think I can make the reach to where she injects. > > Does it absorb better in the rear end than in other > places? > > Thanks, > Mark > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Mid thigh between knee and hip, on the outside. Easy and simple. There is a nerve bundle in the rear that is a big problem, though I do know some people that self inject with a mirror back there. No thanks. best vaughn Re: Shots > For you guys that give yourself IM shots - where exactly do you > inject? My endo is having my nurse (my mother-in-law) inject into my > rear end. I want to eventually learn to do them myself, but I don't > think I can make the reach to where she injects. > > Does it absorb better in the rear end than in other places? > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Very good - thanks for the link vaughn Re: Shots > Hi Mark, > > There are instructions and injection site pictures at: > http://devweb3.vip.ohio-state.edu/Materials/PDFDocs/medicatn/geninfo/intrain > j.pdf > > (Note: the above long URL might be " broken " in this message, so you might > need to cut & paste it.) > > FYI, I just added this and a subq page bookmark in our Links section here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Not testosterone, but I do give myself vitamin B-12 shots intramuscularly. I inject into the upper thigh at a point that I is halfway between the knee and the hip, and halfway between a line drawn down the center of the upper leg on the top and a line drawn down the side the same way. In other words, just to the outside of the top of the leg as you sit down, halfway up. It's the big meaty part of the thigh muscle, easy to find. I taught myself how to inject by first watching the vet do my dogs, and then by reading any of the various links a Google search on intramuscular injection will produce. Most have easy to follow diagrams. > Shots > > I used to go to the PCP once a month to get a shot of test. > But now i am trying the AndroGel. But my Endo said that if it > dose not raise my levels he wants my PCP to increase my shots > to either weekly or bi weekly. My question is can i give the > shot to myself without having to drive to my PCP everyweek > and pay a copay? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Yeah, my endo didn't seem to be too crazy about it when I brought up the idea of subq T injections. But they certainly would be easier, I would imagine. Thanks for all the advice guys! Got shot # 4 today, go back for more bloodwork on Thurs. Just an FYI for you guys - Quest labs won't take lab orders on paperwork other than their own. I tried to go there but they wouldn't take it unless the doc used their paperwork and had an account with them. So I went to the local hospital which is affiliated with the big teaching hospital my endo is at. Had to wait an hour yesterday to get a simple blood draw. Mark > Hi Phil, > > Wouldn't an injection in folds of the stomach be subcutaneous? I think Mark is > looking for intramuscular sites. > > Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 , Definitely don't want to piss her off! I am in quite the vulnerable position with the shots Mark > Hope you're on good terms with your mother-in-law. > Don't think you want to piss her off now. > > > another gay man > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Vaughn, Does it absorb well for you there? Is it more painful there than the rear end, or about the same? I don't have much pain when I get the shot in the rear. Thanks! Mark > Mid thigh between knee and hip, on the outside. Easy and simple. > > There is a nerve bundle in the rear that is a big problem, though I do know > some people that self inject with a mirror back there. No thanks. > > > best > > vaughn > > > > > > Re: Shots > > > > For you guys that give yourself IM shots - where exactly do you > > inject? My endo is having my nurse (my mother-in-law) inject into my > > rear end. I want to eventually learn to do them myself, but I don't > > think I can make the reach to where she injects. > > > > Does it absorb better in the rear end than in other places? > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 00:30:38 -0000, you wrote: >Does it absorb well for you there? Is it more painful there than the >rear end, or about the same? I don't have much pain when I get the >shot in the rear. > >Thanks! For me, I got huge knots in the rear with shots. They lasted a week or more, and when the next shot went in they seized up again. (SHot in one cheek and the residual knot in the other tightened again for a few days. Very odd. Thigh shots fore me were far more preferable. - - - - Just another albino black sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 > I used to go to the PCP once a month to get a shot of test. But now > i am trying the AndroGel. But my Endo said that if it dose not raise > my levels he wants my PCP to increase my shots to either weekly or > bi weekly. My question is can i give the shot to myself without > having to drive to my PCP everyweek and pay a copay? I've been giving myself shots for years. I take .4cc every tuesday and friday. However, today I had a 1st. When removing the syringe from my thigh it spurted blood out. It was really freeky. A little direct pressure stopped the blood. Just be ready for a little blood once in a blue moon. I did not have any when I injected and drew back, just when I took it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 I had blood squirt out of the thigh the last time I did it as well. I haven't died from it yet, but it did freak me out just a bit at the time. > Re: Shots > > I've been giving myself shots for years. I take .4cc every > tuesday and friday. However, today I had a 1st. When removing > the syringe from my thigh it spurted blood out. It was really > freeky. A little direct pressure stopped the blood. Just be > ready for a little blood once in a blue moon. I did not have > any when I injected and drew back, just when I took it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 That's because you cut through the vein or artery and kept on going before checking for blood - not a big deal and I'd imagine has happened to anyone who does this on regular basis. But you probably figured this out already? best vaughn > I've been giving myself shots for years. I take .4cc every tuesday > and friday. However, today I had a 1st. When removing the syringe > from my thigh it spurted blood out. It was really freeky. A little > direct pressure stopped the blood. Just be ready for a little blood > once in a blue moon. I did not have any when I injected and drew > back, just when I took it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hi Mark I'm told that the buttock is the best place and I have a nurse friend who does them occasionally there for me, but I have never noticed any big difference in absorption rate, pain or anything else. For a long time I would get spasms in my upper leg when doing the thigh shots, but that has disappeared since quitting smoking and whether there ever was a relation between the shots or not I have no idea - it might have been purely from smoking. As for pain - I think it depends on the person doing the shot - my friend is very careful and I never feel much of anything. I, though, am usually in a rush and push the needle in too fast, pull it out at the wrong angle, or fire the plunger in, all of which can cause some discomfort. Hope this helps? vaughn Re: Shots > Vaughn, > > Does it absorb well for you there? Is it more painful there than the > rear end, or about the same? I don't have much pain when I get the > shot in the rear. > > Thanks! > Mark > > > > Mid thigh between knee and hip, on the outside. Easy and simple. > > > > There is a nerve bundle in the rear that is a big problem, though I > do know > > some people that self inject with a mirror back there. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 For the thigh shots, do you guys keep your leg straight or bent like you are sitting down, or what? Thanks again, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Vaughn, Yes, thanks! I am bookmarking a lot of these messages so I can come back to them when I get ready to start doing this. Thanks again! Mark > > Hope this helps? > > > vaughn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Sitting down. However, it is very important that the leg be relaxed, with the foot flat on the floor and no tension in the leg. For me any other position has always caused some discomfort. Re: Shots > For the thigh shots, do you guys keep your leg straight or bent like > you are sitting down, or what? > > Thanks again, > Mark > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 > For the thigh shots, do you guys keep your leg straight or bent like > you are sitting down, or what? > > Thanks again, > Mark I'm always sitting down with my leg usually straight out and relaxed. I also always tighten the needle on the syringe. Sometimes it look crooked. I might pull it out at an angle wich would also cut me and cause some bleeding. I also use a 23guage 1 " needle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 I do mine sitting on the toilet seat, knee bent. I do it that way just because it's convenient, but I think this keeps the muscle in the most relaxed position. A relaxed muscle would have to hurt less than one tensed up, don't you think? > Re: Shots > > For the thigh shots, do you guys keep your leg straight or > bent like you are sitting down, or what? > > Thanks again, > Mark > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Yes, according to my pediatrician in 1953. If he could catch me. > A relaxed muscle would have to hurt less than one tensed > up, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 That would make the most sense to me... Thanks guys! Any other advice is appreciated! Mark > I do mine sitting on the toilet seat, knee bent. I do it that way just > because it's convenient, but I think this keeps the muscle in the most > relaxed position. A relaxed muscle would have to hurt less than one tensed > up, don't you think? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 What about vaccinations like tetanus?.. My doc wants me to have a tetanus booster--it's been 13 years since I had one--just a plain tetanus shot-- and now they make only tetanus-diptheria in the same shot--or so i was told.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Dear cworth, Avoid it like the plague! Tetanus fear is vastly over rated. Stepping on a rusty nail in a cow barn would be the only way to get it. Tetanus is an anerobe and would have to be pushed deep below the skin to be able to incubate in humans. Do a google search and you will find lots of info against taking the shot, which doesn't work anyway. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ -- ----Original Message Follows---- From: worth <cworth@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: shots Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:16:53 -0700 What about vaccinations like tetanus?.. My doc wants me to have a tetanus booster--it's been 13 years since I had one--just a plain tetanus shot-- and now they make only tetanus-diptheria in the same shot--or so i was told.. _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 My heart goes out to your daughter. I got the " cow's milk is the ONLY source of calcium and you're going to stunt his growth " speech when I refused to give him cow's milk when he was 12 months. First off, tell her to get another pediatrician. A pediatrician doesn't have to agree, but he/she does need to respect the rights and opinions of mothers. As for how to go about with the shots, Dr. G recommends waiting until 2 months old to start. Then just give them one at a time, at least two months apart, and only when the baby is 100% healthy. No chicken pox shot at all and no MMR until at least 2 years old. The live virus shots are the most dangerous. I believe they are the chicken pox, MMR, and flu vaccines but not completely sure on that. I have a son, 5, with " PDD " who had all his shots on a slightly delayed schedule. We are going much slower with our almost 2 year old daughter and so far so good. I'd mostly recommend that she go with her gut on it. I'm big on mother instincts. Best of luck to your daughter. April shots > Hi all, my daughter has a 7mo.baby boy, she has decided to wait on the shots for now, but her doctor sent her out of the office almost in tears today. he told her breast milk causes autisum she replyed no it does not then he told her that's how stupid it sounded to him when she said she was going to wait on the shots because of the autisum issue. I have a 10 yr. son with ASD but he did get all his shots and so I never had to deal with this issue. Her first doctor told her the shots absolutely do not cause autisum. But could they be a trigger for some. any information on what some new moms are doing or is there a particular way to give the shots, would be so appreciated. > > > > --------------------------------- > Discover > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Vaccinations and autism is an issue that is not going to die even after all the overwhelming evidence is in. We think that the vaccines could trigger a chain of events in the immune system so that the end result is autistic symptoms. This is not the same thing as vaccines causing autism. We think that you have to have a susceptible host which is why the majority of children in the country who are vaccinated do not develop autistic symptoms. Since your daughter is in a family with a close history of ASD then one might conclude that her child is more susceptible than a child who does not have a relative with ASD. You might want to go to _www.neuroimmunedr.com_ (http://www.neuroimmunedr.com) I think DR. Goldberg has his recommendations for how vaccines should be administered to siblings. The problem with not having a child vaccinated is that you are depending upon herd immunity for protection. With more and more children not being vaccinated it will only be a matter of time that we will see a return of some of the preventable diseases. Kathy NNY E. on RNC. MSN _www.NNYCLINIC.org_ (http://www.nidsnnyclinic.org/) NNYCLINICOFFICE@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hello, I have a 2 week old baby girl, a 4 1/2 year old girl, and a 6 year old boy who is diagnosed with PDD/NOS. My oldest 2 kids received all their shots on schedule but only my son has PDD. I debated about vaccinating my youngest through out my pregnancy. Luckily I have a good pediatrician who was willing to work with me. We are putting off the Hep B until adolescents and the other shots she will be getting 1 at a time with the MMR split into 3 shots. We will be going almost every month to get a shot from the time she is 2 months to almost 2 years. This way if she reacts either behaviorally or physically to a shot we will know which one and she will not receive any more of that type. I hope this has helped bee morr <morges5@...> wrote: Hi all, my daughter has a 7mo.baby boy, she has decided to wait on the shots for now, but her doctor sent her out of the office almost in tears today. he told her breast milk causes autisum she replyed no it does not then he told her that's how stupid it sounded to him when she said she was going to wait on the shots because of the autisum issue. I have a 10 yr. son with ASD but he did get all his shots and so I never had to deal with this issue. Her first doctor told her the shots absolutely do not cause autisum. But could they be a trigger for some. any information on what some new moms are doing or is there a particular way to give the shots, would be so appreciated. --------------------------------- Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 , Our doctor had a waiver form. My son was vaccinated as a baby, because I had no clue about the mercury issue. However, when it was time for him to get his 3 and 4 year booster shots, I talked to the doctor and he gave me a form he had filled out to medically waive it. Also, my 2 year old has had his medically waived as well ( he is typical) because I did not want to take the chance with it.......it was no problem. His daycare is on the military base, and they had no problem letting him go with a doctor's medical waiver for vaccines. <tylerhaley01@...> wrote: OK It is about time for Tyler's 5 year shots and I know that the school is going to want his shot records. I have decided that he won't be getting these shots as he has Peachcare and they won't pay for the thimerisol free ones. How do I go about getting a waver that will suffice for school and daycare? Is it safe to get shots that don't have the mercury in them or should I just not get them all? I think the only one that he has to get that has mercury is the DtAP. Should I just skip the one or skip them all? (I think it is the MMR shot and I can't remember the other. The MMR is just a booster and I am thinking about having his immunity tested so he won't have to get it if he is already immune.) Thank so much, created 19 June 2005 Winnie the Pooh looking at 'Dragons' by E H Shepherd A bear, however hard he tries,Grows tubby without exercise.Our Teddy Bear is short and fat,Which is not to be wondered at.But do you think it worries himTo know that he is far from slim?No, just the other way about -He's proud of being short and stout A A Milne Weave & Mosaic Frame by Lismibaebies Creations Font is PoohNo virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 Betsy Loiacono Educational Advocate PLSP IV "In matters of style, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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