Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/req-ga.htm here are waivers spelled out by state. :)Betsy Loiacono <betsyloiacono@...> wrote: , Our doctor had a waiver form. My son was vaccinated as a baby, because I had no clue about the mercury issue. However, when it was time for him to get his 3 and 4 year booster shots, I talked to the doctor and he gave me a form he had filled out to medically waive it. Also, my 2 year old has had his medically waived as well ( he is typical) because I did not want to take the chance with it.......it was no problem. His daycare is on the military base, and they had no problem letting him go with a doctor's medical waiver for vaccines. <tylerhaley01@...> wrote: OK It is about time for Tyler's 5 year shots and I know that the school is going to want his shot records. I have decided that he won't be getting these shots as he has Peachcare and they won't pay for the thimerisol free ones. How do I go about getting a waver that will suffice for school and daycare? Is it safe to get shots that don't have the mercury in them or should I just not get them all? I think the only one that he has to get that has mercury is the DtAP. Should I just skip the one or skip them all? (I think it is the MMR shot and I can't remember the other. The MMR is just a booster and I am thinking about having his immunity tested so he won't have to get it if he is already immune.) Thank so much, created 19 June 2005 Winnie the Pooh looking at 'Dragons' by E H Shepherd A bear, however hard he tries,Grows tubby without exercise.Our Teddy Bear is short and fat,Which is not to be wondered at.But do you think it worries himTo know that he is far from slim?No, just the other way about -He's proud of being short and stout A A Milne Weave & Mosaic Frame by Lismibaebies Creations Font is PoohNo virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 Betsy Loiacono Educational Advocate PLSP IV "In matters of style, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock." Sell on Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Suzanne, This is a topic that you get a lot of differing opinions, both from physicians and from parents. I don't believe you can get the measles and mumps portion of the vaccine without the Rubella ( " R " ) - but I could be wrong. It has been many years since I have worked giving immunizations. Basicly, any live virus can trigger a flare, (Rubella) because a live virus immunization triggers the immune system response. Beyond that - if your child is on medication that weakens the immune system - as a large % of the meds that we give our children do, then they are a great risk of becoming EXTREMELY ill from a live virus vaccine. Most Docs will tell you no live virus vaccines, but the others are ok. I personally follow the advice found in Dr. Lehman's book, which says no vaccines, period, for children with active arthritis or currently on steriods (and for a time after) I don't have the book here with me - so can't quote it verbatim today - and don't remember if he commented on other meds. Most of my son's doctors concur with this for the following reasons; 1. Some vaccines could make him ill, due to the compromised immune system, and 2. Chances are they will be ineffective at best - because we are giving medication that inhibit the immune response. Personnally, I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that it hardly makes sense to immunize someone when you are giving meds that inhibit the immune system - but I want to make it clear that is MY opinion - and I respect the opinions of those who differ. Luckily, Robbie's immunizations were totally up to date when he first became ill - but he is missing the immunizations he would have recieved at since - as he has never been off steriods or cyclosporine for that matter, since that time. I think he is pretty well covered - but I do fret over those partents whose children are healthy, but not immunized because that is where the big risk is for our kids. Ultimately, you should discuss this with 's rheumatologist, pediatrician and any other physician involved in 's care, and make an informed decision based on what you are able to find out through your own research, and through the knowledge of you child's doctors - and then go with your gut. Good luck! Val Rob's Mom (8,systemic) shots I was wondering if anyone was familiar with the shots that our children should NOT get. is up for her 5 year old check up and I am pretty sure it is the R in MMR. Can she have the Measles and Mumps shot? thanks Suzanne and (4, pauci) --------------------------------- Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hi Suzanne, My daughter Belle is 11 and we did opt out of her shots last summer . She has a medical waiver on file with the school district and we were told that she would be sent home if any child came down with any of those illness's. Our regular Dr adviced against it ( he said if it wwas HIS child he wouldn't have the shot given ) but our Rhummy said yes ... I try to go with my gut feelings these days concerning my childs health . Have agreat day , Teri > > I was wondering if anyone was familiar with the shots that our children should NOT get. is up for her 5 year old check up and I am pretty sure it is the R in MMR. Can she have the Measles and Mumps shot? > > thanks > Suzanne and (4, pauci) > > > --------------------------------- > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Hi Sheena, I already my Hep A & first two Hep B shots; I also had a flu shot just last week. I only had a sore arm briefly from the Hep shots, but the flu shot made me slightly sick for 1-2 days and my arm was sore for 3 days. It irks me how my hepatitis literally affects everything now; I bruise much easier as well and in general, am a lot more wimpy, LOL Robin --- In Hepatitis C , Sheena compnay when I feel better. > How long were you sick from the B and pneumonia vaccines? > > > Sheena > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 I've had four of them, two in each knee. They were wonderful....for three or four days. Then the pain was back with a vengence. The PT I am going to now is pretty good. A lot of massage, ultrasound, and stretching exercises. Mike MT shots Has anyone had cortizone shots in their knees? This dr. wants me to go threw a series of them? I Like the FDA scaring the crap out of these dr.'s so folks like us in real pain have to plead to get our meds. The medical clerk where i go go mad cause i was 5 minutes late. she made me wait an hour and a half. I just about got up and walked out. this one tops it all. the physical therp. disagreed with the dr.'s orders instead of telling him of course he tells me. I stop going. Take care greta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Cortizone shots are wonderful for a period of time, but they are just a huge band-aid for the problem. Also, I was under the impression from my first doctor that while on cortizone shots you are not aware of what you are doing that would be very painful or damaging because the area is numb and can sometimes make matter worse. You cannot have them forever and my doctor only gave me one to get through my wedding, refused to give me another. I am not sure what others on this site think but I have put more trust and belief in my PT than I have my doctors. They see you in action, see what pains you, the doctor may wiggle your knee back and forth but they form their on conclusion as to your level of pain and damage. The PT sees the pain, and more than likely has seen many with the same ailment you have. I know this is all frustrating, hang in there! greta <greta_hottuna@...> wrote: Has anyone had cortizone shots in their knees? This dr. wants me to go threw a series of them? I Like the FDA scaring the crap out of these dr.'s so folks like us in real pain have to plead to get our meds. The medical clerk where i go go mad cause i was 5 minutes late. she made me wait an hour and a half. I just about got up and walked out. this one tops it all. the physical therp. disagreed with the dr.'s orders instead of telling him of course he tells me. I stop going. Take care greta --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Answers and get answers from real people who know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 The Way Mitchs Dr Told Us Was The Same Places Insulin Is Given. HOPE ALL OF YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY. past my bed time. i love this day night reversal. ha ha ha! d --- Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies <gaila@...> wrote: > When I did the shot on my thigh,I did it on the side of my thigh and pulled > the flesh out so there was more flesh.I went down to 70pounds while on tre > atment so I was running out of places to give the shot. > Gail > Re: lowercase (new) Kat./.Que > stion? > > > > I did my shots in my legs, above my knees..I would think in the belly are > a it would hurt more ..OUCH!.. how many here in group do it in the knee ver > ses in the belly area?..Just curios..Hugs, Patty > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 My daughter went from a couple of words to non verbal and violent after the MMR and DPT. The office has to by law, provide you with documentation on the shots prior to giving them. Tell them you want the shot insert, and it doesn't give info on thimerosol, call the CDC and read off the lot number - it takes longer and could potentially be embarassing with the nurse doing the whole eye rolling thing - but I would... Jenveltrinikki <veltrinikki@...> wrote: My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR that people believe is linked to autism? Do all boosters contain mercury? I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these shots or is it worse NOT to get them? What did you guys do? I live in a small town w/no ped. or doctor who specializes in autism so you guys are my best sorce of info. Thanks______________________________________________________________ If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or faraway. Henry Thoreau We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 >>My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR that people believe is linked to autism?<< That is pretty well disproven now. >>Do all boosters contain mercury?<< No. >>I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these shots or is it worse NOT to get them? << If he was fine the first time around, then he will be fine this time. A very small number of people react and this can sometimes cause brain damage, which will make any underlying condition such as ASD seem worse. However, bear in mind that the number who react to vaccine is less than the number who suffer brain damage (or worse) from getting the illness - so the risk is actually smaller! in England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 i got all 4 of my kids immunised .2 are autistic .they had no reactions what so ever to the shots .everyone is just trying to figure out what happened to make thier kids the way they are.the shots i do not feel cause autism.i agree with nancy in england some kids may have reactions and soem may have brain damage from it but that is entirely diffeernt that getting autism from it. their is much more research stating that it is a genetic disorder . a hit or miss so to speak where one may get it the others not i have 3 kids by the same man 2 have it the other one is perfectly fine . all got their shots on time and so forth . protect your child it is way worth it . and also like nancy said if he had no reaction to the other ones he shouldnt have one now. just also remember unless it is a religous reason or a medical necessity ( allergic to the shot) kids by law in most states have to be immunised and they need them to enter school. shots My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR that people believe is linked to autism? Do all boosters contain mercury? I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these shots or is it worse NOT to get them? What did you guys do? I live in a small town w/no ped. or doctor who specializes in autism so you guys are my best sorce of info. Thanks Finding fabulous fares is fun.Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 There are two different issues with vaccines. The MMR is considered the biggest concern not because of mercury (which it never had) but because the measles portion is too high and kids that are genetically predisposed to a weak immune system are not able to fully fight it off. Medical studies done on autistic kids have found measles virus in their body which is believed to be the cause of the damage in their digestive tract. It is therefore recommended if one choses to give their child the MMR - to give each one (measles, mumps & rubella) separate - one year apart. You said your son needs a booster though. Something like 85% of kids are fully immune from the first set and the boosters are only for that minority of kids that need more. What you can do it ask to have his titers taken to determine if he even needs it. The second issue with vaccines is metals in the preservatives - especially mercury. This used to be widely used in all other vaccines but is being used less and less. Mercury has only been removed completely from childhood vaccines (which excludes the flu shot) in California. In other states, it is still being used to some degree. The problem is the vaccines that have removed mercury are usually using aluminum which is not much better. It is possible to get vaccines that are metal-free but it is more expensive and the doctor will usually have to special order it. Usually it can only be metal free if it is single dose vial. I would highly recommend getting the book What You Doctor Won't Tell You About Childhood Vaccinations by Dr. Cave. She is a pediatrician that has done extensive research behind the risks of each individual vaccine vs. the risks of the diseases themselves. She gives an alternative schedule to follow to minimize the risks while still giving the vaccines that are most important based on where you live and family history. She also gives information on what you can do to minimize risks (such as vitamins and minerals) prior to vaccinating. > > My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR that > people believe is linked to autism? Do all boosters contain mercury? > I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these > shots or is it worse NOT to get them? What did you guys do? I live in > a small town w/no ped. or doctor who specializes in autism so you guys > are my best sorce of info. Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 It has been disproven by the pharmaceudical industry just like the risks of cigarettes has been disproven by the cigarette companies. Their studies are seriously flawed and biased. I can't tell you over the last 5 years how many times a parent has gone online horrified because they did not believe the dangers of vaccines but days after, their normal child is now autistic. Some kids regress over time but for some, it is within days. > > > >>My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR that > people believe is linked to autism?<< > > That is pretty well disproven now. > > >>Do all boosters contain mercury?<< > > No. > > >>I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these > shots or is it worse NOT to get them? << > > If he was fine the first time around, then he will be fine this time. A very > small number of people react and this can sometimes cause brain damage, > which will make any underlying condition such as ASD seem worse. However, > bear in mind that the number who react to vaccine is less than the number > who suffer brain damage (or worse) from getting the illness - so the risk is > actually smaller! > > in England > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Where is it disproven? YES, the measles portion of the MMR has been found actively growing in 80% of autistic children FROM THE MMR. They can isolate the actively growing organism and find that it is linked back to the strain from the vaccine. No, the MMR never did contain mercury. However, the rubella portion has long been linked to brain swelling. I don't know where this gets her info! That " small number " is what our autistic children are I guess. I bet you didn't know that it takes 90-100 days for the DPT vaccine to be activated in the body. How can you trace a " reaction " back when it can be 3 months later? Please get your child's MMR titers taken to see if he's already immune. My son's titers showed more than double normal. You have a perfect reason to opt out when you know he's got too much " immunity " already. This in itself shows a reaction to the MMR. Also, if your son has visual issues, it is commonly a lowered Vitamin A issue that can stem from the measles proliferating and using up vitamin a stores (which measles often does). Please research these issues before you throw out opinions, ! , RN > > > >>My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR that > people believe is linked to autism?<< > > That is pretty well disproven now. > > >>Do all boosters contain mercury?<< > > No. > > >>I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these > shots or is it worse NOT to get them? << > > If he was fine the first time around, then he will be fine this time. A very > small number of people react and this can sometimes cause brain damage, > which will make any underlying condition such as ASD seem worse. However, > bear in mind that the number who react to vaccine is less than the number > who suffer brain damage (or worse) from getting the illness - so the risk is > actually smaller! > > in England > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 On 2/23/07, Rowell <nancy@...> wrote: >>My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR thatpeople believe is linked to autism?<<That is pretty well disproven now. As I understand it, all that was really disproven was that the mercury in the shots *cause* autism. I saw an interview recently with a doctor who's heading up some Autism studies here in RI who claimed they are still looking into the link between immunizations and autism. He said they're actually looking into what I think may be the case, which is that there is a genetic susceptibility with an environmental trigger. The fact that so many children suddenly stop speaking and lose all their acquired language after getting the same shot (not everybody, but enough to raise plenty of red flags), is what I feel is a strong possibility of being that environmental trigger. Just my two cents for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 In a message dated 2/25/2007 12:02:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, blackfoot124@... writes: kids by law in most states have to be immunised and they need them to enter school. This is an interesting point that no-one's brought up. Since a child is entitled to schooling till at least 16, then if the school district refuses them entrance to school, then the district would need to provide alternate schooling. When dealing with the school nurse in my kids' first public school, when she pulled that line on me, I told her my children would be so happy to hear that they didn't have to go to school! She shut up and we never had any trouble, about it. A year later, having become a Christian Scientist (originally for that reason I got interested, but the healings won my heart) I did give them exemption forms. I don't think they would have bothered me though, even without them. The Natural Hygiene Society also gives exemption; that is perhaps a physical consideration. I wish the parents who think these shots are okay would look at the vaccination ingredients. If unrisen biscuits made the dog sick (smiling again at that story) then imagine what chicken and human embryo, formaldehyde, viruses, mercury, etc. do for our children. Wonder if the epidemics we have of cancer and heart disease have their roots not only in diet, but in the unhealthy foundation we build for our children with vaccinations. The theory is not that they keep anyone 'healthy' but that they somehow prevent epidemics. How many babies (except of drug addicts) get Hepatitis B? An infinitesmal (aol says this is spelled wrong?) percentage. As a people, Americans seem to believe most everything the medical profession tells us. Stepping off my soapbox. FrancineAOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 >>I don't know where this gets her info! << From careful research. Also note that Wakefield's original research was done in England and has been shown to be seriously flawed. There are also methodological problems with the Irish research which purported to show measles in the gut. in England BSc (Hons) Physiology & Biochemistry BA (Hons) Psychology Post-Graduate Certificate in Psychological Reseach Methods (this is the first part of an ongoing qualififcation) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 >>There are no threats of tetanus, diptheria or pertussis. There is no proof that if there ever was an outbreak, being immunized would even protect you. Also the risks of these diseases were long gone and not due to vaccinations, but better medical care.<< Can we just correct some inaccuracies here please? Tetanus is a constant threat for the unimmunised - the bacterium which causes it lives in the soil and can enter the body through cuts, it can also be transmitted from animal bites (including small animals kept as pets or for other reasons - when I was coming into contact with lab rats I had to get my vaccinations up-to-date). The risk of this is not long gone, it is still very present today. Its common name is lockjaw, and it can be a killer because of the paralysis induced. Pertussis is whooping cough and there are still regular outbreaks of this in all countries. It can cause death or serious brain damage. Diptheria is still endemic in many developing countries, and so anyone travelling from those countries can bring it into another, putting everyone not immunised at risk of death. So, I'm sorry but there is still a clear and present danger from these diseases. in England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Thank you for this. Yes as parents we must choose for our children. But we also need to know we have that choice. I did not know I did. I would have at least waited till they where 2 and walking and talking if I did know. My children are vaccine injured I called the doc after the MMR and he said I was crazy. We guess what my daughter is Autistic and my son most likely after our tests will be on the spectrum as well. To say I am angry for being forsed into giving my children shots yes I am becasue I was told I had to. But I know now and I am doing research and now I know and will do what is best for them to prevent any more harm. But on a note for the docs and nurses behalf they do not know most important info on vaccinations either. They also should do there research befor injecting poison into children Love Sandria On 2/25/07, ssch184188 <SSch184188@...> wrote: Speaking as a parent to 4 kids on the spectrum, to say that not vaccinating your child is neglectful is rude and insulting to some. It's like saying if you use supplements instead of pharmaceutical medications, you are a bad parent. When does it stop? It's not dangerous not to immunize your child. There are no threats of tetanus, diptheria or pertussis. There is no proof that if there ever was an outbreak, being immunized would even protect you. Also the risks of these diseases were long gone and not due to vaccinations, but better medical care. There is a lot of controversy about the subject, but most testing done is funded by the drug companies. So it's flawed. To compare not getting shots to letting your kids play in traffic to me just isn't right. Sometimes kids get hit by cars without playing in traffic. I believe it's the choice of the parents to vaccinate or not. I also believe it is the choice of the parent to give their child medications or supplements, or special diets or whatever. There are lots of controversial treatments. I don't condemn any parent for what they think is best for their child. Who am I to judge? You have to do what you have to do and what you think is best. I feel there are several different causes of autism. That's why it is such a wide specturm and so hard to figure out. I think some kids are damaged by vaccines. My son had shots at 2 and had a week long series of seizures. I think genetics play a part, the environment, etc. I think there are many opinions and everyone is entitled to their own. I may not agree, but I sure will not tell you that you are crazy for yours. Sharoncandy_hentzen <candy_hentzen@... > wrote:More and more research is proving that autism is a genetic disorder, not caused by mercury in vaccines. It is much more dangerous to not immunize your child, as the threats of tetanus, diptheria and pertussis are still very real.This is not to say that mercury has no effect on children, or that children don't respond to special diets. I just believe that failing to immunize your child is like letting them play in traffic. They may not get hit by a car today, but it is likely to happen. I believe it is neglectful not to immunize. Good luck to you. -- www.youngliving.org/sldeckerkeeping family healthy the natural waywith young living essential oils and natural suppliments!!lilpixierose a great new group for EOs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 There is much proof out there we are just not shown it we are instead shown the research from the pharm companys. It is out there well hidden we need to open our eyes and look for it. On 2/23/07, vickie <blackfoot124@...> wrote: i got all 4 of my kids immunised .2 are autistic .they had no reactions what so ever to the shots .everyone is just trying to figure out what happened to make thier kids the way they are.the shots i do not feel cause autism.i agree with nancy in england some kids may have reactions and soem may have brain damage from it but that is entirely diffeernt that getting autism from it. their is much more research stating that it is a genetic disorder . a hit or miss so to speak where one may get it the others not i have 3 kids by the same man 2 have it the other one is perfectly fine . all got their shots on time and so forth . protect your child it is way worth it . and also like nancy said if he had no reaction to the other ones he shouldnt have one now. just also remember unless it is a religous reason or a medical necessity ( allergic to the shot) kids by law in most states have to be immunised and they need them to enter school. shots My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR that people believe is linked to autism? Do all boosters contain mercury? I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these shots or is it worse NOT to get them? What did you guys do? I live in a small town w/no ped. or doctor who specializes in autism so you guys are my best sorce of info. Thanks Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. -- www.youngliving.org/sldeckerkeeping family healthy the natural waywith young living essential oils and natural suppliments!!lilpixierose a great new group for EOs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I agree with you !! I guess I didn't mean to say I disagree that the shots were important. Because they are important as that's why we have them. But my feeling is that all of this start when all of the immunizations started. And some of Dakota's had to come later then being on time. I can't remember the reason why. Oh yeah because of the seizures and the abnormal white matter found on the mri is why we held back. He has all his shots up to date except no more MMR's for him. But I agree that the immunizations could be a trigger. Stacie -- Re: shots On 2/23/07, Rowell <nancy@...> wrote: >>My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR thatpeople believe is linked to autism?<<That is pretty well disproven now. As I understand it, all that was really disproven was that the mercury in the shots *cause* autism. I saw an interview recently with a doctor who's heading up some Autism studies here in RI who claimed they are still looking into the link between immunizations and autism. He said they're actually looking into what I think may be the case, which is that there is a genetic susceptibility with an environmental trigger. The fact that so many children suddenly stop speaking and lose all their acquired language after getting the same shot (not everybody, but enough to raise plenty of red flags), is what I feel is a strong possibility of being that environmental trigger. Just my two cents for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Well said Sharon!! Stacie -- Shots Speaking as a parent to 4 kids on the spectrum, to say that not vaccinating your child is neglectful is rude and insulting to some. It's like saying if you use supplements instead of pharmaceutical medications, you are a bad parent. When does it stop? It's not dangerous not to immunize your child. There are no threats of tetanus, diptheria or pertussis. There is no proof that if there ever was an outbreak, being immunized would even protect you. Also the risks of these diseases were long gone and not due to vaccinations, but better medical care. There is a lot of controversy about the subject, but most testing done is funded by the drug companies. So it's flawed. To compare not getting shots to letting your kids play in traffic to me just isn't right. Sometimes kids get hit by cars without playing in traffic. I believe it's the choice of the parents to vaccinate or not. I also believe it is the choice of the parent to give their child medications or supplements, or special diets or whatever. There are lots of controversial treatments. I don't condemn any parent for what they think is best for their child. Who am I to judge? You have to do what you have to do and what you think is best. I feel there are several different causes of autism. That's why it is such a wide specturm and so hard to figure out. I think some kids are damaged by vaccines. My son had shots at 2 and had a week long series of seizures. I think genetics play a part, the environment, etc. I think there are many opinions and everyone is entitled to their own. I may not agree, but I sure will not tell you that you are crazy for yours. Sharon candy_hentzen <candy_hentzen@...> wrote: More and more research is proving that autism is a genetic disorder, not caused by mercury in vaccines. It is much more dangerous to not immunize your child, as the threats of tetanus, diptheria and pertussis are still very real. This is not to say that mercury has no effect on children, or that children don't respond to special diets. I just believe that failing to immunize your child is like letting them play in traffic. They may not get hit by a car today, but it is likely to happen. I believe it is neglectful not to immunize. Good luck to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 In a message dated 2/25/2007 12:17:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, SSch184188@... writes: There is no proof that if there ever was an outbreak, being immunized would even protect you. True. And what you say is well put.AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 In a message dated 2/25/2007 12:17:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, SSch184188@... writes: There is no proof that if there ever was an outbreak, being immunized would even protect you. True. And what you say is well put.AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Well said, good information sharing without shooting down others views. > > > > My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR > that > > people believe is linked to autism? Do all boosters contain > mercury? > > I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these > > shots or is it worse NOT to get them? What did you guys do? I live > in > > a small town w/no ped. or doctor who specializes in autism so you > guys > > are my best sorce of info. Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Well said, good information sharing without shooting down others views. > > > > My son is 4 and needs another set of booster shots. Is it the MMR > that > > people believe is linked to autism? Do all boosters contain > mercury? > > I know nothing is proven but can I make him worse by getting these > > shots or is it worse NOT to get them? What did you guys do? I live > in > > a small town w/no ped. or doctor who specializes in autism so you > guys > > are my best sorce of info. Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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