Flu shots

October 12, 2005

They are giving them at the pharmacies here. You may

want to check with your pharmacist. Good luck. Bill

--- Sally Hines <shines@...> wrote:

> No flu vaccine available at my PCP office. I tried.

> They said last year they

> got none at all. I will be searching for other

> means.

>

> Sally

>

> [ ] Flu Shots

>

> Just a reminder for everone, especially those

> undergoing treatment, to

> get a flu shot. Remember our immune systems are

> compromised. Bill

>

January 10, 2006

In a message dated 1/10/2006 4:43:39 PM Central Standard Time,

marysue@... writes:

Was it your rheumy who advised against the shots? All the articles that

I have read recommend that those with RA GET the shots, just not any

shots with live virus. I got a flu shot and a pneumonia shot for the

first time last year. Sue

I was TOLD to get both the flu and pneumonia shot by my rheumy... couldnt

get the flu shot around here, nobody has it. Grrr. Havent got the pneumonia

shot yet either.... ooops. guess i should do that soon.

julie

September 17, 2006

A flu shot can actually activate a starter virus you may have had as a child and cause symptoms of an auto-immune disorder to either manifest or exacerbate. Best, Kathy

[low dose naltrexone] Flu shots

,I was advised not to get flu shots, ever, by a neurologist I had, in 1993. He said that the side affects weren't so good and, that the effects were too much like the " crab" drugs. I've never gotten a flu shot, and won't.

October 14, 2006

Regarding the flu shots, as a nurse I have seen it

given to the elderly and/or medically fragile, and

seen how sick some of them became because of the shot.

It seems ironic to me that the medical profession is

advising it for the very people it is most likely to

hurt. The claim is " IF " those people got the " real "

flu, they would be much worse.

One year I was working as a nurse in a senior's

residence (about 120 people) and for about a week

after the shots, most (about 100) of the residents had

flu symptoms. (diarrhea, nausea and vomiting, etc) I

was so busy at work and just become pregnant...too

busy taking care of the sick people to stop and rest,

and that's how I miscarried my first baby.

Then shortly afterwards, I got pregnant with my son

(ASD one), and we were working on our new house.

(painting, etc) A move and more house renovations

later (we bought a house with my brother and built an

addition to the house, which took a Long time), this

son was born. (ill)

Margaret

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October 24, 2006

Here is a good web page on the flue shot.

http://www.mercola.com/2000/nov/26/flu_shots.htm - have a friend who has been a

RN for years and she agrees. If you only knew what is in them.....agree with

you - don't think I would be taking. Been a really long time (yrs) since

had the flue and as work in a group home with the disabled was suggested we all

get it. That year was one of the worst in history for me with getting the flue.

If another person had a touch of it...I was guaranteed to get it twice as

strong. Could of been allergic to something in it too though....who knows.

Just read some of the things the above medical website mention are in there.

http://www.4betrhealth.com

rheumatic flu shots

If the vaccine has thimerosal (mercury), no, thank you. The other point is

that you are introducing microorganisms into your body when you already have

a damaged immune system. I can't get that to make sense for me.

> Being fairly new to this disease-of-the-month club, I really appreciate

people taking the time to share information because I've learned so much

more than what I've read in books and on the web.

>

> Question: How do people feel about the importance of flu shots? Any

reason not to?

>

> Thanks, Kim (R.A., Thyroid, Raynaud's)

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October 24, 2006

My father who is 64 was urged repeatedly to take the flu shot and he finally

consented. He took the shot and promptly got the flu. My father is asthmatic, so

over the counter flu medicine actually worsened his condition, he was weak from

the flu, couldn't eat and was dehydrated. In the middle of the night he fell

while going to bathroom and landed right on his head and had a stroke. A month

later he started having seizures and lost his balance. He found out he had

internal bleeding which the doctors at the hospital had not detected. Had to

have emergency brain surgery, ( this was one of the most horrible times of my

life! ) finally made it through. He's all healed now, thank God and is back to

normal. But we curse the day the doctors insisted on my father having to take

the flu shot! I know not everyone has such a horrible experience, but you asked,

and I had to share. It's a chance you take, so think about it carefully.

Yesenia

kim <kimpatton@...> wrote: Being

fairly new to this disease-of-the-month club, I really appreciate people taking

the time to share information because I've learned so much more than what I've

read in books and on the web.

Question: How do people feel about the importance of flu shots? Any reason

not to?

Thanks, Kim (R.A., Thyroid, Raynaud's)

October 24, 2006

Hi,

Ethel recently sent a very extensive post with lots of great advice in flu

prevention. Check previous messages at the rheumatic group home

page. It was in the earlier part of this month.

Take care,

Ute

October 25, 2006

e,

As with all vaccines we have to be careful. doesn't get a Flu

Shot. Her Dr said that the risk was higher with the Flu Shot. But working

around Kid's as we all know you can catch anything. A friend of mine is a

School

Teacher and her class is young kid's. She catches everything. In the Winter

she stays sick.

My Great Aunt got her Flu Shot yesterday and she's 95 yrs old. She is in

fair health too. My Sister got her flu shot 3 weeks ago and so far all is

well with her. It is hard to make the Choice.

Working with Kid's your at risk for much of anything. Ask the her Dr

about it. He should be

a Better Judge on this sweetie. I don't take the Flu Shot either. I try to

avoid crowds alot in the winter time.

Robbin

October 25, 2006

I agree. Unless one is very old and feeble, I would not opt for the flu

shot. Even then I probably would not get the flu shot but maybe the one for

pneumonia. That seems to be what kills many older people. Even then I would

have to think it over. Think we are getting a bit " shot " happy here in the

states. Seems to me it is quite profitable and therefore the push to get

everyone to get it. My daughter took her two year old to the pediatrician.

They wanted to give him the flu shot. My daughter said no and explained why.

The doctor said that personally she agreed and was not getting her own kids

vaccinated, but the practice she was in insisted in pushing it on everyone who

came in...hmm.m.m. Of course I have always gone by the theory " less is

best " .....just one opinion. Martha

October 25, 2006

I doubt you meant to be disrespectful but " disease of the month club " ? I don't

appreciate that characterization.

VE

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From: " kim " <kimpatton@...>

> Being fairly new to this disease-of-the-month club, I really appreciate people

> taking the time to share information because I've learned so much more than

what

> I've read in books and on the web.

>

> Question: How do people feel about the importance of flu shots? Any reason

not

> to?

>

> Thanks, Kim (R.A., Thyroid, Raynaud's)

>

October 25, 2006

We always get the shot. Aubrey easily catches stuff. I tried to do what I can we

also. Got the pneumonia shot. After pneumonia 4 times in 2 years and already

scarring in her lungs the risk of the shot were less than her in the hospital.

The shot only covers bacteria pneumonia. I felt that we need to do the shot. SO

did her rheumy.

I hope we have a better year. Due to breathing problems we were on homebound

school for a bit last year....\Terri Mom to Aubrey...10 years old Jra and iritis

Re: flu shots

e,

As with all vaccines we have to be careful. doesn't get a Flu

Shot. Her Dr said that the risk was higher with the Flu Shot. But working

around Kid's as we all know you can catch anything. A friend of mine is a

School

Teacher and her class is young kid's. She catches everything. In the Winter

she stays sick.

My Great Aunt got her Flu Shot yesterday and she's 95 yrs old. She is in

fair health too. My Sister got her flu shot 3 weeks ago and so far all is

well with her. It is hard to make the Choice.

Working with Kid's your at risk for much of anything. Ask the her Dr

about it. He should be

a Better Judge on this sweetie. I don't take the Flu Shot either. I try to

avoid crowds alot in the winter time.

Robbin

October 25, 2006

In no way did I mean to be disrespectful.....I was referring to my own

situation. My body is being attacked with a vengeance. I started AP two

months ago and am very hopeful.

Many thanks for the comments on flu shots. As usual, great advice. I will

not be getting one.

Kim

April 20, 2007

Welcome !

From someone who has been fighting to get thimerosal out of the flu shots in our

state for the last two years . . .

We are here for you!

Barb

[ ] flu shots

I am new so I'm sorry if I repeat something they everyone's already

addressed. I have a 4 yr old and a 1 yr old. After my first child,

I was very careful to make sure that my second child was not given

any vaccines that had mercury in it. I didn't really know what we

wre facing at the time with the oldest, but I knew that we should at

least take this precaution. I assumed that because they had removed

the mercury preservative in the vaccines for the kids that they

would also have done it in the flu shots. Of course I was wrong and

even after all we tried to do with the youngest I am afraid that I

unknowingly exposed her. She was given the shot back in the early

winter-and now is showing signs. I feel horrible because I should

have checked. I have spent the day writing every one of my

represntatives, the cdc, the fda, the local media, and anyone else I

can think of. I am begging them to at least inform the public so

that we as the parents KNOW and can make that decision with full

knowledge. I am sure I am not the only parent in the world who

assumed the same thing. If you've got some time, I encourage

everyone to please speak with your docs, write your reps, and inform

all parents. I am just one voice of one parent who feels horrible.

I hope that maybe I can make a difference in other kids and

parents. You all appear to know so much more and i'm glad I found

this group. Starting down this path has been both a relief and an

awakening! Thanks!

April 21, 2007

In a message dated 4/21/2007 1:34:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ntabbo@... writes:

> After convincing my friend to stay away from flu shots, she had her 2 and 4

> year old vaccinated because they told her they do not use Thimerosol in flu

> vaccines for under age 5. Is this true? Has anyone heard of this??

>

> I can't find any info to support this.

>

I don't know but just today on C-Span (re-run from last Tuesday), they were

showing the " House Appropriations Committee " talking about autism. A lady who

I think was from the CDC said about flu shots that " thermerisol was still in

flu shots but they were working on having it eliminated but it wasn't across

the board yet " , whatever that means. At the very least, I would ask to see the

box with the ingedients listed. I recently did this at SEVERAL places in my

city when I had to get a tetinus shot after stepping on a rusty nail. Couldn't

find one without trace amounts. I took it, praying all along. It really was

an old, nasty, rusty nail and went deep so I thought I had not choice. Ugh

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April 21, 2007

After convincing my friend to stay away from flu shots, she had her 2 and 4 year

old vaccinated because they told her they do not use Thimerosol in flu vaccines

for under age 5. Is this true? Has anyone heard of this??

I can't find any info to support this.

~Nahla

April 21, 2007

Some do some don't. One has to check the FDA website

to make sure. or vaccinesafety.org

--- Boopercat@... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/21/2007 1:34:35 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> ntabbo@... writes:

>

> > After convincing my friend to stay away from flu

> shots, she had her 2 and 4

> > year old vaccinated because they told her they do

> not use Thimerosol in flu

> > vaccines for under age 5. Is this true? Has anyone

> heard of this??

> >

> > I can't find any info to support this.

> >

>

> I don't know but just today on C-Span (re-run from

> last Tuesday), they were

> showing the " House Appropriations Committee " talking

> about autism. A lady who

> I think was from the CDC said about flu shots that

> " thermerisol was still in

> flu shots but they were working on having it

> eliminated but it wasn't across

> the board yet " , whatever that means. At the very

> least, I would ask to see the

> box with the ingedients listed. I recently did this

> at SEVERAL places in my

> city when I had to get a tetinus shot after stepping

> on a rusty nail. Couldn't

> find one without trace amounts. I took it, praying

> all along. It really was

> an old, nasty, rusty nail and went deep so I thought

> I had not choice. Ugh

>

> **************************************

> See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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April 22, 2007

You may also be interested in the group EOHarm.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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