Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 sorry--continued-- I pray for your niece and the baby! Keep us informed, please. Is it true that we need to have our seasonal flu shots without preservative? Is it the same thing for the pneumonia shot? Please let us know what you think! Thanks, Nina in Bellevue, 66, PBC stage 2, lots of arthritis, down to 2 mg prednisone: and I fell October 1st and have two fractures of my pelvis and fractured the sacrum. Still bedridden but with enough energy at times to write! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 What are you referring to Pat? There is the new High Dose flu shot for people over 65 ( or weak immune system) that is FDA approved for influenza virus subtypes A and type B Fluzone High-Dose, which has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in people age 65 and older. The retailer reported that adults over 65 years of age account for 65% of flu-related hospitalizations and 90% of flu-related deaths. Fluzone High-Dose contains the same components as regular-strength flu vaccine but provides a superior immune response in people 65 and older. http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm112854.ht\ m and http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/qa_fluzone.htm then ... there is a ALL-IN-ONE: Flu shot and H1N1. ~chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I thought that the new high dose flu shot was an all in one also, so I guess the question becomes is there any advantage for those of us who are immune compromised in getting the high dose flu shot plus, I guess, the H1N1, or should we just get an all in one, since we don't know how much good the vaccine does? As the high dose vaccine is approved for those over 65 would we even be allowed to get it? Should we be getting more than one dose depending on which way we go as was recommended by some doctors last year? Thanks!PatOn Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:46 PM, cllcanada <cllcanada@...> wrote: What are you referring to Pat? There is the new High Dose flu shot for people over 65 ( or weak immune system) that is FDA approved for influenza virus subtypes A and type B Fluzone High-Dose, which has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in people age 65 and older. The retailer reported that adults over 65 years of age account for 65% of flu-related hospitalizations and 90% of flu-related deaths. Fluzone High-Dose contains the same components as regular-strength flu vaccine but provides a superior immune response in people 65 and older. http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm112854.htm and http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/qa_fluzone.htm then ... there is a ALL-IN-ONE: Flu shot and H1N1. ~chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Yup...Fluzone High-Dose is for influenza A ~ H1N1 virus and A ~ H3N2 and influenza B. In Canada the shot will be for anyone over 65 AND people with compromised immune systems. Not certain how they will handle the age thing in the U.S. How well any vaccine works on any given patient varies widely depending on the ability of the immune system to make antibodies. My doc recommends two shots, since he believes that the flu season extends longer into the spring than it did 10 years ago. Not certain the Tagment thing is being done anymore...never seemed to get much traction. HTH ~chris > > > > > > > What are you referring to Pat? > > > > There is the new High Dose flu shot for people over 65 ( or weak immune > > system) > > that is FDA approved for influenza virus subtypes A and type B > > > > Fluzone High-Dose, which has been approved by the Food and Drug > > Administration for use in people age 65 and older. The retailer reported > > that adults over 65 years of age account for 65% of flu-related > > hospitalizations and 90% of flu-related deaths. Fluzone High-Dose contains > > the same components as regular-strength flu vaccine but provides a superior > > immune response in people 65 and older. > > > > > > http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm112854.ht\ m > > and > > http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/qa_fluzone.htm > > > > then ... > > > > there is a ALL-IN-ONE: Flu shot and H1N1. > > > > ~chris > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Karine, We get pneumonia shots every 5 years, but that is separate from the flu shots. This year, there will be 3 vaccines in 1 shot for the annual flu shot. Some people in the group are complaining that they got sick for a day and some 3 days. I wrote the original post saying that we had to make a decision about whether we were going to get the shot. Some people get it and others do not because of the ingredients like mercury being used. Last year, it was said that individual shots did not have he mercury, only the large bottles that they refilled after giving them to a large group, like a school. That is what I remember from last year. If someone has more recent information they can post it here and every one can make up their own minds about what is best for them. This is a personal decision everyone has to make for themselves after speaking to their doctors. This is a website with a strong warning about who should get the FLU MIST ( there are people with certain conditions who should definitely not take this, so read up about this nasal mist vaccine before you take it. You should not get FluMist if you: are allergic to eggs, gentamicin, gelatin, or arginine; have ever had a life-threatening reaction to influenza vaccinations; or are 2 through 17 years old and take aspirin or medicines containing aspirin. http://www.flumist.com/?dbsrc=mi-flum-eng-IPick-nnn-unbrned-insem-nnn & WT.sr\ ch=1 & WT.mc_id=1115 http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/communicable/influenza/flumist.htm ______________________________ These are some of the agents that may be in your flu shots and see if you still want to take a flu shot. I am trying to present both sides for t he pros and cons. Ethylene glycol (antifreeze) * Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye) * Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent * Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote antibody response) * Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease * Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction in some people. http://answers./question/index?qid=20081008080922AAhrUij ________________________________ I hope that this answers some of your questions, Karine. FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Thanks Lottie!! I'm very impressed on how informative you are! Im sure everyone feels very blessed by receiveing all your knowledge!! Karine ________________________________ From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> CML < > Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 2:43:57 AM Subject: [ ] Flu shots  Karine, We get pneumonia shots every 5 years, but that is separate from the flu shots. This year, there will be 3 vaccines in 1 shot for the annual flu shot. Some people in the group are complaining that they got sick for a day and some 3 days. I wrote the original post saying that we had to make a decision about whether we were going to get the shot. Some people get it and others do not because of the ingredients like mercury being used. Last year, it was said that individual shots did not have he mercury, only the large bottles that they refilled after giving them to a large group, like a school. That is what I remember from last year. If someone has more recent information they can post it here and every one can make up their own minds about what is best for them. This is a personal decision everyone has to make for themselves after speaking to their doctors. This is a website with a strong warning about who should get the FLU MIST ( there are people with certain conditions who should definitely not take this, so read up about this nasal mist vaccine before you take it. You should not get FluMist if you: are allergic to eggs, gentamicin, gelatin, or arginine; have ever had a life-threatening reaction to influenza vaccinations; or are 2 through 17 years old and take aspirin or medicines containing aspirin. http://www.flumist.com/?dbsrc=mi-flum-eng-IPick-nnn-unbrned-insem-nnn & WT.sr\ ch=1 & WT.mc_id=1115 http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/communicable/influenza/flumist.htm ______________________________ These are some of the agents that may be in your flu shots and see if you still want to take a flu shot. I am trying to present both sides for t he pros and cons. Ethylene glycol (antifreeze) * Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye) * Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent * Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote antibody response) * Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease * Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction in some people. http://answers./question/index?qid=20081008080922AAhrUij ________________________________ I hope that this answers some of your questions, Karine. FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Absolutely get the flu shot, just make sure it's not a live virus. I believe they are not, but I always ask. Might want to consider a pneumonia shot as well if you haven't had one in the last 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Live, attenuated influenza vaccine - LAIV (nasal spray) used with children and patients up to the age of 50 years is not recommended to people with compromised immune systems. You should check with your doctor... http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/downloads/vis-flulive.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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