Vitamin D deficiency

[Guest guest]

Sandy, I had my MGB in Jan. 04, in April I was diagnosed with a Vit D

deficiency. (I was not deficient before the MGB) So I too took

50,000 ui once a week for a month. I also read on the internet that

15-20 minutes of sun gives you the equivalent of 50,000 ui of Vit D.

So I started to spend more time in the sun. My levels have stayed up

since I started to be outside driving my horse. Good luck.

Anne Hansen

1/26/04

310/248 and stuck

> I have developed a vitamin D deficiency that my endocrinologist

thinks may be related to the MGB. I am two years out and have lost

115 pounds.

>

> I started at the gym in November and thought I was pulling muscles

in my back. The first time it happened I was stretching. It

continued with back pain on both sides of my body. In May I went to

my niece's wedding in NJ and walked a good deal with my sister. On

the day before I was to return home my groin started hurting and got

progressively worse to the point I was afraid I would not be able to

walk. My PCP sent me to an orthopaedist and he took x rays. We were

very surprised with the results. The x rays and a MRI showed several

ribs in various stages of healing from stress fractures and my pelvic

bone had stress fractures. (I wound up in a wheel chair for a month)

He sent me to an endocrinologist who did blood work and found the

Vitamin D deficiency. I am on 50,000 units of Vitamin D once a week

along with Fosamax (been on it since October) and the calcium. Since

my body had virtually no D it could not use the calcium I was

faithfully taking. I am scheduled for another blood test the end of

the month to see if the Vitamin D is working (I think it is - I

haven't fractured a rib in a couple of weeks!)

>

> Has anyone else had these problems? TAKE YOUR VITAMINS - severe

osteoporosis is very painful!

>

> Sandy

> 7/31/02

> 270-155

[Guest guest]

i will keep an eye out for this.... thanks for the heads up!

now.... you have always taken the 3 one source vitamins faithfully

since surgery and you still became deficient? is that correct?

i am 4 years out and take my vits religiously and my bloodwork has

been fine (except for my one bout of thinking i was beyond taking all

the vits and became anemic--i LEARNED my lesson there!!)

i am due some bloodwork, and i feel fine, but i can make sure he

checks especially for vit D.... sounds like vit D deficiency is

something i want to AVOID!!

thanks again!

cathy s in va

> I have developed a vitamin D deficiency that my endocrinologist

thinks may be related to the MGB. I am two years out and have lost

115 pounds.

>

> I started at the gym in November and thought I was pulling muscles

in my back. The first time it happened I was stretching. It

continued with back pain on both sides of my body. In May I went to

my niece's wedding in NJ and walked a good deal with my sister. On

the day before I was to return home my groin started hurting and got

progressively worse to the point I was afraid I would not be able to

walk. My PCP sent me to an orthopaedist and he took x rays. We were

very surprised with the results. The x rays and a MRI showed several

ribs in various stages of healing from stress fractures and my pelvic

bone had stress fractures. (I wound up in a wheel chair for a month)

He sent me to an endocrinologist who did blood work and found the

Vitamin D deficiency. I am on 50,000 units of Vitamin D once a week

along with Fosamax (been on it since October) and the calcium. Since

my body had virtually no D it could not use the calcium I was

faithfully taking. I am scheduled for another blood test the end of

the month to see if the Vitamin D is working (I think it is - I

haven't fractured a rib in a couple of weeks!)

>

> Has anyone else had these problems? TAKE YOUR VITAMINS - severe

osteoporosis is very painful!

>

> Sandy

> 7/31/02

> 270-155

[Guest guest]

Yep, it's in my book too.

Kenda

> I don't remember where I saw it, (Time Magazine?) but

> it's recommended everyone get 20 minutes of sun

> exposure a day - without sunscreen to mainitain proper

> Vitamin D levels.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I recently saw that as well - not sure if it was the same show but I

saw it on Fox 5 - I think it was a segment called Housecalls with Dr.

Isadore Rosenfeld.

>

> I don't remember where I saw it, (Time Magazine?) but

> it's recommended everyone get 20 minutes of sun

> exposure a day - without sunscreen to mainitain proper

> Vitamin D levels.

>

[Guest guest]

I saw my PCP this week for labs and am waiting for the results. He mentioned

Vit D deficiency. He said that in the past, most doctors believed if you

lived in the south (we are in NC) that it was nearly impossible to not get

enough sun exposure to have a Vit D deficiency. Recently there has been more

an more evidence that the general population is Vit D deficient...he thought

sunscreen and education about the risk of sun were making the difference.

So, for the past year or so he has been testing much more frequently than

usual for Vit D deficiency. He said he was simply dumbfounded with the

number of people in his practice that were deficient. For this reason he

said he is even more cautious with by-pass patients. So, it sounds to me

like it is much more common than it was in the general population and as

by-pass patients we are at an even higher risk...

For what it is worth...

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[Guest guest]

Yep, I was diagnosed a year and a half ago. I get my levels checked

all the time. I used to take 50,000 units once a day for about 6

months to bring them up to " normal " and then we dropped the dosage in

the summer because I am outside all the time. I was on one pill three

times a week for another 6 months and now my levels are now fine with

one pill of 50,000 units a week.

Good luck and have your doctor check your levels. I get mine done

every three months.

Anne Hansen

312/150

>

> I was just diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency of 8.5. The normal

> range is between 32 - 100. My doctor is having me take 1800 mil.

vit.

> D in addition to the 3 vits. a day that I take. I am very fatigued

and

> my muscles and bones ache. Any one else have this condition and what

> should be done about this? Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

I continue to be severely vitamin D deficient (<7). My PCP referred me to an

endocrinologist

but I can't get in until Sept 11. I shared e mails from this site on the

subject but she is not

comfortable prescribing Vitamin D greater than 1000 iu due to toxicity concerns.

Any

suggestions. I am taking citrical with D, my 3 one a days and supplemental

vitamin D on my

own but the problem persists. I had my surgery in July 2004 and am doing well

other than

this vitamin D and the concommitant parathyroid hormone problems and the clacium

leaching from my bones.

susitnam

Chino

DR. R and Dr. P

[Guest guest]

5/1/2007, rowilk1@... writes: << I was just diagnosed with a vitamin D

deficiency of 8.5. The normal range is between 32 - 100. My doctor is having

me take 1800 mil. vit. D in addition to the 3 vits. a day that I take. I am

very fatigued and my muscles and bones ache. Any one else have this condition

and what should be done about this? Thanks>>

I can't recall what my range was 2 yrs ago, but my (good) Dr. had me add a

prescription Rx for awhile, then transfer to Viactiv Calcium, Vit D & K chews

(I was also Vit K deficient)...in addition to a " mandatory " 20 mins per day

in direct sunlight - NOT a tanning bed. Read the Viactiv labels carefully,

they make 2 kinds - regular daily vitamins and the type I described above. But

always check with your Dr first before trying to self-medicate.

I say " good " Dr because she moved away and now I'm dealing with an office

that leaves me question marks all the time - like sending me for a sleep study

for fatigue instead of treating my anemia. I'm back on a " good " Dr

hunt...*sigh*.

Best regards,

Patty A

5'3 " , 253/144/???

8/25/03, MGB, Stsvl, Drs. R & Chery

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Dr. S. Don

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[Guest guest]

Dr. R talked about this a bit at last Friday's meeting in Las Vegas. He said

that in spite of everybody's fear of exposure to the sun, twenty minutes a day

in the sunshine is the best way to get a healthy dose of Vit. D.

:-) Kathy in VA

7/6/06

297/185

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From: " rowilk1 " <rowilk1@...>

I was just diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency of 8.5. The normal

range is between 32 - 100. My doctor is having me take 1800 mil. vit.

D in addition to the 3 vits. a day that I take. I am very fatigued and

my muscles and bones ache. Any one else have this condition and what

should be done about this? Thanks

[Guest guest]

What are the symptoms of Vitamin D deficiency? Barb Dudley, High Point, Oct

15, 2003, 242/140

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[Guest guest]

Patty,

Where in NC to you live? I may have asked that before, so please bear with

me, I have terrible short-term memory! LOL

I have a really good doctor here in Winston-Salem. He is the one who told me

about Dr. Rutledge and encouraged me to have the MGB three years ago.

in NC

NCGorgeous1963@... wrote:

5/1/2007, rowilk1@... writes: << I was just diagnosed with a vitamin D

deficiency of 8.5. The normal range is between 32 - 100. My doctor is having

me take 1800 mil. vit. D in addition to the 3 vits. a day that I take. I am

very fatigued and my muscles and bones ache. Any one else have this condition

and what should be done about this? Thanks>>

I can't recall what my range was 2 yrs ago, but my (good) Dr. had me add a

prescription Rx for awhile, then transfer to Viactiv Calcium, Vit D & K chews

(I was also Vit K deficient)...in addition to a " mandatory " 20 mins per day

in direct sunlight - NOT a tanning bed. Read the Viactiv labels carefully,

they make 2 kinds - regular daily vitamins and the type I described above. But

always check with your Dr first before trying to self-medicate.

I say " good " Dr because she moved away and now I'm dealing with an office

that leaves me question marks all the time - like sending me for a sleep study

for fatigue instead of treating my anemia. I'm back on a " good " Dr

hunt...*sigh*.

Best regards,

Patty A

5'3 " , 253/144/???

8/25/03, MGB, Stsvl, Drs. R & Chery

*** please choose your Plastic Surgeon wisely *** Avoid costly mistakes and

make sure that they SPECIALIZE in WLS patients !!! ***

12/2/04, TT & BA: 5/31/05, Arm tuck, donut lift, TT rev, Legs lipo: 8/25/05,

Thighs: Chlt, Dr.P.Tucker

8/16/06, *CORRECTIONS* to legs, Mastopexy w/implant removal: Chlt, Dr. S. Don

11/6/06, *CORRECTION replacement* of breast implants (AWESOME JOB)!: Chlt,

Dr. S. Don

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

This is so interesting! Thanks for posting it; definitely something

I would never have thought of contributing to joint pain, but they do

say that more and more Americans are becoming deficient as we keep

ourselves out of the sun to avoid sun damage. Unfortunately, our

daily exposure used to keep Vitamin D in check. Makes sense.

Really intersting.....Hadley (Isabelle, 3 yrs.)

>

> Recently, my rheumatologist checked my vitamin d levels, among

other things. He found that it was low. They state that with

rheumatoid arthritis patients, a deficiency can cause increased pain

in joints and bone. So I was prescribed 50,000 IU once a week for 12

weeks, then I will be rechecked. There is hard data from a

rheumatology study that this treatment reduces joint and bone pain,

as well as corrects the deficiency. Just thought it might be of

interest. I also have osteopenia and malabsorption of vitamin d can

be the underlying cause. It is common in patients with immune system

disease.

>

> How is vitamin D deficiency treated and monitored?

> Treatment. The initial treatment for vitamin D deficiency in

patients with normal renal and liver function should be large doses

of ergocalciferol, 50,000 IU once a week for eight weeks, in addition

to 1500 mg of elemental calcium daily. For patients with

malabsorption, larger doses of ergocalciferol (50,000 IU two to three

times a week) may be necessary.

> The vitamin D form of choice is ergocalciferol because:

> It is inexpensive and readily available.

> Even patients with malabsorption syndromes will absorb > 60 percent

of vitamin D in this form (1).

> Other forms of vitamin D might be more appropriate under certain

clinical circumstances (see table below).

> Monitoring. The parathyroid hormone (PTH) and 25-OH vitamin D

levels should be checked 8 weeks after initiating therapy with

ergocalciferol. Once the PTH and 25-OH vitamin D concentrations

normalize, then the patient can be placed on a maintenance dose of

vitamin D. The maintenance dose will vary depending on the underlying

cause of vitamin D deficiency. Patients with a deficiency from lack

of sun exposure and decreased dietary intake would require 1000 IU of

cholecalciferol or ergocalciferol a day. An individual with

malabsorption may require 25,000 to 50,000 IU (or more) per week.

Anti-resorptive therapy for osteoporosis can then be initiated if

indicated by bone densitometry.

> If PTH and 25-OH vitamin D levels do not normalize with time in

patients with gastrointestinal disorders, then ergocalciferol should

be replaced with either oral calcitriol (1,25 dihydroxy vitamin D)

which may help absorb calcium better on the luminal side of the gut

or an injectable form of calcitriol. It is important to monitor the

calcium levels frequently (every two weeks) when initiating the

injectable form of calcitriol as it can cause hypercalcemia.

> Osteopenia due to vitamin D deficiency should not be treated with

an anti-resorptive medication such as calcitonin or a bisphosphonate.

These medications could lead to severe hypocalcemia because the serum

calcium level is being maintained at the expense of the calcium in

the bones. There have not been any studies evaluating the effects of

anti-resorptive medications in patients with vitamin D deficiency.

The large studies addressing the effects of bisphosphonates on bone

density excluded patients with hyperparthyroidism (2-4).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kaylee has been recently dxd with Ostepenia and we haven't been told much about

it yet as they called after her labs. They told us they will talk to us about it

in January at her next Rheumy appt. What do they do for Ostepenia? I am still

trying to read up on it and see what all it entails. I am rather overwhelmed by

it as Kaylee has JA, uveitis, Ostepenia and also a behavior disorder. Can you

help me with the Ostepenia some as I am not sure the treaments and outcome?

Thanks and have a wonderful day!

and Kaylee, 5 JA, uveitis, Ostepenia and DBD

VItamin D Deficiency

Recently, my rheumatologist checked my vitamin d levels, among other things. He

found that it was low. They state that with rheumatoid arthritis patients, a

deficiency can cause increased pain in joints and bone. So I was prescribed

50,000 IU once a week for 12 weeks, then I will be rechecked. There is hard data

from a rheumatology study that this treatment reduces joint and bone pain, as

well as corrects the deficiency. Just thought it might be of interest. I also

have osteopenia and malabsorption of vitamin d can be the underlying cause. It

is common in patients with immune system disease.

How is vitamin D deficiency treated and monitored?

Treatment. The initial treatment for vitamin D deficiency in patients with

normal renal and liver function should be large doses of ergocalciferol, 50,000

IU once a week for eight weeks, in addition to 1500 mg of elemental calcium

daily. For patients with malabsorption, larger doses of ergocalciferol (50,000

IU two to three times a week) may be necessary.

The vitamin D form of choice is ergocalciferol because:

It is inexpensive and readily available.

Even patients with malabsorption syndromes will absorb > 60 percent of vitamin D

in this form (1).

Other forms of vitamin D might be more appropriate under certain clinical

circumstances (see table below).

Monitoring. The parathyroid hormone (PTH) and 25-OH vitamin D levels should be

checked 8 weeks after initiating therapy with ergocalciferol. Once the PTH and

25-OH vitamin D concentrations normalize, then the patient can be placed on a

maintenance dose of vitamin D. The maintenance dose will vary depending on the

underlying cause of vitamin D deficiency. Patients with a deficiency from lack

of sun exposure and decreased dietary intake would require 1000 IU of

cholecalciferol or ergocalciferol a day. An individual with malabsorption may

require 25,000 to 50,000 IU (or more) per week. Anti-resorptive therapy for

osteoporosis can then be initiated if indicated by bone densitometry.

If PTH and 25-OH vitamin D levels do not normalize with time in patients with

gastrointestinal disorders, then ergocalciferol should be replaced with either

oral calcitriol (1,25 dihydroxy vitamin D) which may help absorb calcium better

on the luminal side of the gut or an injectable form of calcitriol. It is

important to monitor the calcium levels frequently (every two weeks) when

initiating the injectable form of calcitriol as it can cause hypercalcemia.

Osteopenia due to vitamin D deficiency should not be treated with an

anti-resorptive medication such as calcitonin or a bisphosphonate. These

medications could lead to severe hypocalcemia because the serum calcium level is

being maintained at the expense of the calcium in the bones. There have not been

any studies evaluating the effects of anti-resorptive medications in patients

with vitamin D deficiency. The large studies addressing the effects of

bisphosphonates on bone density excluded patients with hyperparthyroidism (2-4).

[Guest guest]

,

I am sorry to hear of the new developement of Osteopenia in Kaylee.  Osteopenia

can be caused by the arthritis itself as well as prolonged steriod use.  Some

of the other meds used to treat JRA may contribute as well  - I really don't

remember.  has been on steriods from the onset - now thankfully on a

very low dose.  Osteopenia puts one at a higher risk for fracture.  Generally

it is diagnosed with a bone density scan.  A scan would show how progressed the

osteopenia is.  A few years ago sustained a compression fracture of one

of his vertabrae and significant changes in another.  This was due to a very

large daily dose of steriods that contributed to major changes in his bone

denisity in a time period of less than two months.  (He already had osteopenia,

which had been improving then a significant decrease occurred in a very short

time) suffered from severe back pain for quite awhile, had to give up ALL

physical exercise for awhile, including his beloved baseball.  Currently, his

bone density has improved, though he does still have osteopenia and is at a high

fracture risk. 

He was treated and followed for his osteopenia by an endocrinologist.  There

are a lot of medications used to treat osteoporosis in adults - but they were

reluctant at the time to use any of them, because although it improves the bone

density, they told me that it increases the brittleness of the bone - so he

would still be at a high fracture risk.  The best way to fight it was to lower

the steriods - second to getting rid of them altogether, of course.  They did

start giving him a calcium supplement with Vitamin D.  It was a liquid, and

tasted horrible - so I bought the chocolate flavored calcium chewable

supplements at the store (also with Vitamin D).  He takes it daily along with

his meds.  is back to his regular activity, with few restrictions - with

the exception of jumping from one level to another (such as jumping from the

balance beam in school to the floor) and he isn't supposed to slide when playing

baseball.  At his current age/league level sliding in certain circumstances is

required to avoid a collision injury - so we play that one by ear.  He does

slide (with me biting my lip) when necessary - though he has had extensive

training on the proper way to slide to attempt to avoid injury, and we limit the

number of slides during practice - and he was restricted from sliding at

baseball camp - since I couldn't be there and because his regular coaches

weren't there.

Weight bearing exercise is very important to help rebuild bone density.  The

treatment recommendations may be different now - a lot in medicine can change in

a couple of years - but I thought I would share 's experience.  We aren't

really sure what was doing when the compression fx occurred - it could

have been any number of things - though that particular weekend he had his first

baseball practice of the spring season and then went to a bowling party - so who

knows.  I remember his pedi being a little upset with me for letting him bowl &

I reponded that endocrinology had told me no restrictions... 

I hope that Kaylee does well and that the bone density is quickly improved.

Val

Rob's Mom (10, systemic)

VItamin D Deficiency

Recently, my rheumatologist checked my vitamin d levels, among other things. He

found that it was low. They state that with rheumatoid arthritis patients, a

deficiency can cause increased pain in joints and bone. So I was prescribed

50,000 IU once a week for 12 weeks, then I will be rechecked. There is hard data

from a rheumatology study that this treatment reduces joint and bone pain, as

well as corrects the deficiency. Just thought it might be of interest. I also

have osteopenia and malabsorption of vitamin d can be the underlying cause. It

is common in patients with immune system disease.

How is vitamin D deficiency treated and monitored?

Treatment. The initial treatment for vitamin D deficiency in patients with

normal renal and liver function should be large doses of ergocalciferol, 50,000

IU once a week for eight weeks, in addition to 1500 mg of elemental calcium

daily. For patients with malabsorption, larger doses of ergocalciferol (50,000

IU two to three times a week) may be necessary.

The vitamin D form of choice is ergocalciferol because:

It is inexpensive and readily available.

Even patients with malabsorption syndromes will absorb > 60 percent of vitamin D

in this form (1).

Other forms of vitamin D might be more appropriate under certain clinical

circumstances (see table below).

Monitoring. The parathyroid hormone (PTH) and 25-OH vitamin D levels should be

checked 8 weeks after initiating therapy with ergocalciferol. Once the PTH and

25-OH vitamin D concentrations normalize, then the patient can be placed on a

maintenance dose of vitamin D. The maintenance dose will vary depending on the

underlying cause of vitamin D deficiency. Patients with a deficiency from lack

of sun exposure and decreased dietary intake would require 1000 IU of

cholecalciferol or ergocalciferol a day. An individual with malabsorption may

require 25,000 to 50,000 IU (or more) per week. Anti-resorptive therapy for

osteoporosis can then be initiated if indicated by bone densitometry.

If PTH and 25-OH vitamin D levels do not normalize with time in patients with

gastrointestinal disorders, then ergocalciferol should be replaced with either

oral calcitriol (1,25 dihydroxy vitamin D) which may help absorb calcium better

on the luminal side of the gut or an injectable form of calcitriol. It is

important to monitor the calcium levels frequently (every two weeks) when

initiating the injectable form of calcitriol as it can cause hypercalcemia.

Osteopenia due to vitamin D deficiency should not be treated with an

anti-resorptive medication such as calcitonin or a bisphosphonate. These

medications could lead to severe hypocalcemia because the serum calcium level is

being maintained at the expense of the calcium in the bones. There have not been

any studies evaluating the effects of anti-resorptive medications in patients

with vitamin D deficiency. The large studies addressing the effects of

bisphosphonates on bone density excluded patients with hyperparthyroidism (2-4).

[Guest guest]

I was also recently tested fot vitamin D deficiency. I was off the charts

low. Doc says hes never seen anyone that low.This was my pschiatrist.He put me

on

a prescrip vitamin D that you take once a week

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[Guest guest]

Does the doctor check all vit levels and just vit D is low in people

with mold exposure?

I haven't had my vit D level checked but at Dr Mercola.com recommends

taking cod liver oil over the winter to get vit D since the short days

of winter doesn't give us much in the way of vit D from the sun.

--- In , " dianebolton52 " <dianebolton@...>

wrote:

I saw my doctor yesterday and he tested me for

> Vitamin D deficiency.

[Guest guest]

Back when I first got mold about 6 years ago I went to a dentist

because my teeth were getting abcessed. This was a natural kind of

dentist. He told me to sit in the sun for about 10-20 minutes a day

with no sunscreen. He said there was more than vitamin D but there was

some sort of healing in the sun rays.

> I saw my doctor yesterday and he tested me for

> > Vitamin D deficiency.

>

[Guest guest]

I've heard about the vit.D deficiency quite a few times over the

years and from what I understand most " moldies " do need a powerful

supplement. What I mean by this, not over the counter. The amount of

vit D. we all need would be by IV.

KC

>

>

> Back when I first got mold about 6 years ago I went to a dentist

> because my teeth were getting abcessed. This was a natural kind

of

> dentist. He told me to sit in the sun for about 10-20 minutes a

day

> with no sunscreen. He said there was more than vitamin D but

there was

> some sort of healing in the sun rays.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I was just tested recently for vitamin D deficiency and mine was

so low it was almost non-existent. I was around an 8 and you shoulb

be at least a 20 (on the low side). I just started taking vitamin D

two weeks ago. It does make me sleepy but it goes away after the first

day; I take one tablet per week. I have also noticed that almost all

my vitamin, mineral levels are extremely low. My iron levels are at a 4

and should be at least higher than 10 (depending on what tests

they use; higher than 20).

Plus my RBC (red blood count) levels drop periodically along with my

hemoglobin, hematocrit, co2, iron saturation, magnesium, mvc, mch,

absolute eosinophils, bicarbonate and ptt(partial prothrombin)

levels. I've also noticed that some levels are high; RDW, WBC

(urinalysis), mpv, chloride, bacteria (urine), protein (urine). I

don't know why, exactly, but I believe the toxins deplete some of the

vitamins in your body for what ever reasons. I, also, know that lead

will deplete iron levels in your body. I had a Hair analysis done a

while back and found that my toxic element levels were high. And some

of the other essential elements were high and some were low.

I'm not sure what all this means and I'm no expert but I believe the

chronic mold exposure depleted my system because before the exposure

my levels were all normal.

Note: after exposure to the mold; my Asper Fumigatus IgG and IgM ELISA

levels were extremly high; 3759 and 3065 respectively (should be less

than 1790 and 1600). My IgM Asper Niger ELISA levels were 2325 (should

be less than 1600) and my IgM Alternaria+Tenuis was 2284 (should be

less than 2022). I would have been tested for all molds but could not

afford to do so. I'm sure most of those would have been elevated as

well like Stachy, etc. especially since they found high levels in my

home.

Maybe someone who knows what all this means could help explain

what happens to our levels when we get exposed to toxic mold? Does the

mold deplete our levels which then spinns everything else out of

control and makes some levels high? And what do we do once this

happens because I've been trying to raise my levels ever since my

exposure but can't seem to do so? Maybe it's because I still have

the mold in my blood and I'm still sensitive to ingesting a lot of

things so taking iron or vitamin D, etc. makes me ill?

Hope this helps others. Thanks,

Dana

--- In , " dianebolton52 " <dianebolton@...>

wrote:

>

> Good Morning Folks: I saw my doctor yesterday and he tested me for

> Vitamin D deficiency. Seems almost everyone he tests in his office

with

> some kind of exposure is deficient in this vitamin. Anyone here

> supplementing Vit D and do you know what causes this? I am outside

alot

> so it will be interesting to see the results. Diane

>

[Guest guest]

I believe this is what I need for all of my deficiencies; IV

intervention. The vitamin D I take was prescribed by

Rheumatologist/Internal Medicine doctor. It's 1.25mg once per week.

It actually makes me fatigued which causes more achiness but it's

supposed to help with the achiness and bone pan. (see my other

response to this issue)

Dana

> >

> >

> > Back when I first got mold about 6 years ago I went to a dentist

> > because my teeth were getting abcessed. This was a natural kind

> of

> > dentist. He told me to sit in the sun for about 10-20 minutes a

> day

> > with no sunscreen. He said there was more than vitamin D but

> there was

> > some sort of healing in the sun rays.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I can believe that. I think we all don't get enough sunshine and

certainly not enough fresh air, we live inside most of the time. The

only thing that holds me back is I only like to walk with company due

to the amount of violence in the country right now. Whenever poverty

goes up, violence does too.

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wrote:

>

> He said there was more than vitamin D but there was

> some sort of healing in the sun rays.

>

[Guest guest]

Here's a link to some info on Vit D supplementation from NIH. Not

sure if they are good source or not anymore but:

http://www.ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp

It used to be thought that fat soluable vitamins could be toxic in

high quantity because they aren't easily excreted by body but stored

but now there is some mixed information on that. A friend of mine

who had breast cancer was given an Rx for high dose of Vit E and she

only went to traditional doctors and had traditional treatments, i.e.

chemo, etc., and doesn't believe in alternative medicine.

I took vitamin IV treatments. Doctor uses water soluable vitamins

since any excess is excreted. High dose of Vit C and sodium bicarb

and vit B's mainly. I had a small mass or cyst of 5 cm and month

later it was 1 cm. I don't know if credit goes to the IV or not

because I immediately went off sugar and high glycemic value foods,

got more rest, ate better, etc. Problem though is it does a number

on your veins.

A woman going there who has cancer got a 'port' put in, which is a

deep IV that stays in and is put in by hospital. However it used to

get plugged up. In hospital they have water running through the port

IV constantly which keeps it open but this way, it has a chance to

try to close up. After a while you feel like a pin cushion and veins

can become scarred, so it's only good for limited amount of time.

>

> Good Morning Folks: I saw my doctor yesterday and he tested me for

> Vitamin D deficiency. Seems almost everyone he tests in his office

with

> some kind of exposure is deficient in this vitamin. Anyone here

> supplementing Vit D and do you know what causes this? I am outside

alot

> so it will be interesting to see the results. Diane

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't had my Vit. D tested but plan on doing so. I had been taking 400mg

which was included in a multivitamin and recently added another 400mg. just

this past week. I think I heard some where that you should take about 1000mg.

Anyone know for sure?

Sue

Yes, I was just tested recently for vitamin D deficiency and mine was

so low it was almost non-existent. I was around an 8 and you shoulb

be at least a 20 (on the low side). I just started taking vitamin D

two weeks ago. It does make me sleepy but it goes away after the first

day; I take one tablet per week. I have also noticed that almost all

my vitamin, mineral levels are extremely low. My iron levels are at a 4

and should be at least higher than 10 (depending on what tests

they use; higher than 20).

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[Guest guest]

Vitamin D 800 mg to a thousand need to be taken with magnesium for absortion

You will also need B12

Vitamin C 2000 to 3000 mg Boost energy.

Zinc 20mgs

ssr3351@... wrote:

I haven't had my Vit. D tested but plan on doing so. I had been taking 400mg

which was included in a multivitamin and recently added another 400mg. just

this past week. I think I heard some where that you should take about 1000mg.

Anyone know for sure?

Sue

Yes, I was just tested recently for vitamin D deficiency and mine was

so low it was almost non-existent. I was around an 8 and you shoulb

be at least a 20 (on the low side). I just started taking vitamin D

two weeks ago. It does make me sleepy but it goes away after the first

day; I take one tablet per week. I have also noticed that almost all

my vitamin, mineral levels are extremely low. My iron levels are at a 4

and should be at least higher than 10 (depending on what tests

they use; higher than 20).

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[Guest guest]

I also have a vit d defiecentcy..my rheumy said that 75 percent of

americans have it....My level was 21,normal starts at 30..My rheumy

perscribed me vit d 50,000 unit twice a week for 2 weeks than

weekly..also have to take calcium withit he said 500 mgs twice

aday...My level after a month came up to 43...diane