Vitamin D deficiency

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Yes, you should have plenty of Vit D. Could it be the meds were on?

I don't get a lot of sunshine, but I do live in OK, so I do get some.

I am not a milk drinker, but I make it up with other foods. Kind of

strange, so many people has this problem. Glad your safe, Tawny

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Diane,

Hope to get my level back up there. Weird, there are so many people

with this problem. Thanks, Tawny

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Hi Doreen,

I am taking the supplements you mention, as well as prescription Calcitriol

and mine is always a problem, consider yourself very lucky!!!

Heidi in Mass.

In a message dated 8/24/2008 9:37:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mimi212@... writes:

Hi Group - just wanted to give my input on what seems to be a very

common problem. My Rheumy put me on Caltrate 600mg Calcium/400mg Vit D

one tablet twice a day right from the very beginning. In all of the

bloodwork I've had done, a Vit D deficiency has never been a problem.

Best of luck to you all.....Doreen

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Hi Group - just wanted to give my input on what seems to be a very

common problem. My Rheumy put me on Caltrate 600mg Calcium/400mg Vit D

one tablet twice a day right from the very beginning. In all of the

bloodwork I've had done, a Vit D deficiency has never been a problem.

Best of luck to you all.....Doreen

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Is this the calcium carbonate or calcium citrate. The calcium citrate

is supposed to be better absorbed by the body, but the only tablets I

can find just have 600mg calcium/400mg Vit D in two tablets.

Sue

On Sunday, August 24, 2008, at 09:37 AM, Mimi wrote:

> Hi Group - just wanted to give my input on what seems to be a very

> common problem. My Rheumy put me on Caltrate 600mg Calcium/400mg Vit D

> one tablet twice a day right from the very beginning. In all of the

> bloodwork I've had done, a Vit D deficiency has never been a problem.

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Hi Heidi - I guess I will consider myself lucky - but only where the

Vit D goes <G>. I'm sorry you are having a hard time with that. Do the

doctors know what is causing the deficiency despite the supplements? I

will keep you and the others in my prayers.....Doreen

>

> Hi Doreen,

>

> I am taking the supplements you mention, as well as prescription

> Calcitriol and mine is always a problem, consider yourself very

> lucky!!!

>

> Heidi in Mass.

>

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Centrum (or its generic equivilent available at your local megamart) has 400 iu

Very truly yours; Todd B. Kotler

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( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said, "Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm>

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I was told too I was D-deficient. And that my kids may be as well. Doc said this could improve brain function (attention span and concentration) as well as energy and B-6, B-12 could help as well. There's a long list of added nutrients she'd like to try in our diets, especially for my aspie, but I like to do things one at a time. I find he does do better with omegas. So, I guess D comes next. LOL! BTW: I live in Florida. We are outside every day and I slather the kids in sunscreen because it only takes 15 minutes to burn in the heat of the day. Yet we are D-deficient. I'm no expert but sounds like the sunscreen to me. Because we get tons of sunshine. ConnieAlyssa Davi <johnalyssa43@...> wrote: My husband was diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency yesterday and the doctors said that it is from a lack of sunshine and the use of sun block. I talked to my pediatrician today and she said they now recommend that ALL kids get 400 iu of vitamin D daily. And my husband's doctor wants ALL multi-vitamins to now have D included because they do not

currently. The general opinion is that MOST Americans are probably vitamin D deficient. My oldest son just had a special multi-vitamin compounded to meet his needs. However, even that one, once I looked at it carefully was 200 iu less than he should be getting so I will need to supplement his vitamin D also. Alyssa From: Miriam <callis4773 (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes

doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school

wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said, "Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come

with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that

my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I

think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: 10/9/2008 9:44 AM

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Yes...I was just dx with vit D deficiency ...due to Poppy's passing and depression...I spent most of my summer inside....not at the pool like other years....so he wrote me a prescripton...when it runs out I will look at the over the counter vitamins and see. I just saw a post that said Centurim had enough.

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From: Miriam <callis4773 (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the

information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said,

"Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get

enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX

IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i

just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm>

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If you drink enough milk and eat a good, high-quality cereal most days, you'll get most if not all of your needed Vitamin D. If not, supplements are the way to go. It's never a good idea to be out in the sun without sunscreen.

( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the

information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said,

"Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get

enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she >

gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible.

...> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm>

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I never heard of this being a common problem. I don't even hear about it on the news and I watch news and read news a lot. Is this a Dan doctor kind of thing - a big concern over sunscreen and vitamin D?

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( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said, "Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm>

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I don't see any advocating for not using sunscreen. Looks like, if you aren't getting enough in your diet, you can take supplements. I personally journal what I eat every day and I get more than enough Vitamin D through my diet alone and I don't eat fish. But I do drink 1% organic milk and eat a high-fiber, fortified cereal every day. I just saw an article related to this on a website called www.myobesityconnection.com . I cut and pasted the content here....

We need vitamin D....lots and lots of vitamin D. And we, and our kids, are not getting enough of it. And so we need to target higher daily doses of vitamin D - instead of 200 IU, experts now say we need 400 IU daily. And we are not coming close to meeting that target. Why? Cause most adults and kids don't drink enough vitamin D fortified milk (or even soy milk) and we don't eat enough oily fishes like tuna, sardines and mackerel and we are not eating cereals fortified with this vitamin. We're also using sunblock which is a good thing for skin cancer - but not such a good thing for our bones or for lowering our risk of diabetes, cancer and heart disease.

Now you can buy vitamin D drops for young children and if breast fed (bottled baby formulas have vitamin D) - they now need 400 IU daily. Older kids past age 1 can drink up to 4 cups of milk daily - but for health reasons it needs to be 1% or preferably, fat free milk (otherwise we are putting them at risk for too many fat calories and obesity). That being said, most kids are drinking too many unhealthy drinks like sugary sodas and fruit punches and blended coffee drinks and smoothies - they are not having fat free lattes. So maybe a vitamin D supplement is in order for teens and young adults.

To bottom line the new recommendations:

Up to age age 50 - 400 IU of vitamin D daily

Past age 50 - 600 IU of vitamin D is needed

( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the

information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said,

"Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get

enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she >

gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible.

...> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm>

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Interesting, thanks for the info!

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( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said, "Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm>

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I believe the recommendation for adults is 2,000 IU's of vitamin D.

Vitamin D plays a part in calcium absorption and immunity. Alyssa was

pointing out that 400 iu's is how much kids should be getting.

> >

> > Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am

feeling

> > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.

> >

> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying

that

> my

> > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told

> him

> > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in

> his

> > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started

> > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked

> him...she

> > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to " FIX IT " for 2

> > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive

and

> > behaving badly....

> >

> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to

> > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix

> > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being

defiant....I

> > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him

> at

> > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and

> > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm.

> >

> > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out.

Now

> I

> > am concerned because he is so tired.

> >

> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like

> crying.

> > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own

> > world...he is so irresponsible. ..

> >

> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up

and

> > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing,

and

> > doing and doing and nothing turn out right.

> >

> > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...

> >

> > Jan

> >

> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm

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2000 IU is the UPPER LIMIT for Vit. D. Be careful not to overdose as

this is a fat soluble vitamin, not water soluble like the B vitamins

and vit C that turn your urine yellow when you take a vitamin.

For kids, calcium gummy chews (from Costco) have some vit. D,

flintstones have some and I think gummy vitamins have some. I just

checked my kids' vitamins and they have some.

> > >

> > > Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am

> feeling

> > > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.

> > >

> > > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying

> that

> > my

> > > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told

> > him

> > > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in

> > his

> > > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started

> > > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked

> > him...she

> > > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to " FIX IT " for 2

> > > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive

> and

> > > behaving badly....

> > >

> > > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to

> > > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix

> > > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being

> defiant....I

> > > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him

> > at

> > > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and

> > > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm.

> > >

> > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out.

> Now

> > I

> > > am concerned because he is so tired.

> > >

> > > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like

> > crying.

> > > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own

> > > world...he is so irresponsible. ..

> > >

> > > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up

> and

> > > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing,

> and

> > > doing and doing and nothing turn out right.

> > >

> > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...

> > >

> > > Jan

> > >

> > > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm

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Roxanna...no ...I had been very tired and got blood work done...and this is what my PCP found....I have not head about DS's bloodwork yet. But this is just a normal every day family doctor

Jan Rushen

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From: Miriam <callis4773 (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the

information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said,

"Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get

enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX

IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i

just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm>

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Roxanna...no ...I had been very tired and got blood work done...and this is what my PCP found....I have not head about DS's bloodwork yet. But this is just a normal every day family doctor

Jan Rushen

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From: Miriam <callis4773 (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: Son is always Tired and considered Defiant-advice needed Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this. My son has similar issues but his teachers really get that they need to help him, not punish him. We had trouble with some medication making wakeful at night so that he couldn't work during the day and would fall asleep at his desk. I think it is better since we started giving him his medication in the morning. He takes Lexapro which, when I was on it, made me very sleepy during the day. I should have taken it at night. Sometimes doesn't sleep well because he is so sensitive to sound. He hears sounds that other people don't and sometimes they scare him.Another thing that can cause sleepiness during the day is sleep apnea. So you might want to have him checked for that. It's really annoying because he has to spend a night in a sleep center with stuff electrodes strapped to him. He might not sleep at all during that and you won't get the

information you need but it might be worth a try.How old is your son? I forget if you mentioned it. I know that completely discouraged feeling you're having right now. It is hard when you're at odds with the school. We had a very bad situation at one school and I remember being so upset and feeling annoyed with because he just couldn't cope. I had to come to a whole new understanding of his behavior because when I got over my annoyance I knew that couldn't help it and that the school wasn't doing the right things. Then I said to myself, "He is advocating for himself in the only way he knows how." I stopped punishing at home for any behavior at school. I just kept telling him, "You do what you need to do. I'll keep working to get the school to do the right things for you." This made me feel stronger because I really did know I was right. Then when the special ed teacher said,

"Mrs. Banash! This behavior has to stop!" I said, "Yes, it does. So what are you going to do about it?" LOL. The special ed teacher then tried to threaten me with a meeting. "We will have to have a meeting with you and Mr. Banash." She said in a stern voice. I said, "Oh good, can we have it tomorrow?" LOL. She backed off of that really quickly. "Oh well, we can't get it together that quickly." Anyway, it makes me laugh now. It was terrible when it was happening.As for your son taking responsibility, that will come with time, asperger kids mature more slowly than typical kids but they do get it eventually. I find that being positive is pretty much the only thing that works with my son. When he is at his absolute worst I say, "I know you're a great kid and you don't want to behave this way." Then he cries and wants hugs and the terrible behavior is gone.Don't beat yourself up, you'll get

enough of that from the rest of the world. You are a great mom who cares about her child. If you were a lousy mom you wouldn't be asking for help.Hugs,Miriam>> Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am feeling > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying that my > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told him > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in his > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked him...she > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX

IT" for 2 > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive and > behaving badly....> > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being defiant....I > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him at > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. Now I > am concerned because he is so tired.> > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like crying. > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i

just want to throw my hands up and > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, and > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > Jan> > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm>

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why not just drink some kind of milk and eat fiber rich cereals? Isn't that what shelley said was necessary? Sometimes we spend so much time figuring out how many pills to take when we could just eat well. Having said that, I am not a good eater and was always very picky. If my boys did not have autism, they would still have food issues from me, I am sure. lol.

Speaking of which, my youngest ds (not dx'd with autism but has quirks and dyslexia) recently came home from school excited about eating new foods. This has been such a big problem here (although milk and cereal are not problems we have!) He ate a carrot the other day. He tried a whole meal that I made that he usually would never go near (and he liked it!) I am excited for P/T conferences so I can find out what magic words his teacher used to inspire him. Maybe I can make use of it with my 12 yo, hfa? Or myself? <GG>

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( ) Re: vitamin D deficiency

2000 IU is the UPPER LIMIT for Vit. D. Be careful not to overdose asthis is a fat soluble vitamin, not water soluble like the B vitaminsand vit C that turn your urine yellow when you take a vitamin. For kids, calcium gummy chews (from Costco) have some vit. D,flintstones have some and I think gummy vitamins have some. I justchecked my kids' vitamins and they have some. > > >> > > Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am > feeling > > > blue,embarrassed, confused and stressed.> > > > > > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying > that > > my > > > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told > > him > > > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in > > his > > > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > > > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked > > him...she > > > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX IT" for 2 > > > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive > and > > > behaving badly....> > > > > > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > > > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > > > it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being > defiant....I > > > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him > > at > > > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > > > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > > > > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. > Now > > I > > > am concerned because he is so tired.> > > > > > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like > > crying. > > > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > > > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > > > > > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up > and > > > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of pushing, arguing, > and > > > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > > > > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > > > > > Jan> > > > > > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: > 10/9/2008 9:44 AM> >>

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I hear ya about figuring out what pills to take for things when you might just be able to take care of the problem with a healthier diet! Much better solution.

My son, out of the blue, decided to try fried okra the other day when he was out with my parents. I couldn't believe it. He only had one piece, didn't like it, but the fact he wanted to try a fried vegetable just blew me away. He's also 12 and I see him trying to branch out and try new foods from time to time which is so neat to see because when he was younger, um, no way would that happen. Slowly but surely though he's tried new things (like pumpkin pie a few Thanksgivings ago) and now he LOVES these foods. So funny and teaches him a great lesson too about being open to new things.

( ) Re: vitamin D deficiency

2000 IU is the UPPER LIMIT for Vit. D. Be careful not to overdose asthis is a fat soluble vitamin, not water soluble like the B vitaminsand vit C that turn your urine yellow when you take a vitamin. For kids, calcium gummy chews (from Costco) have some vit. D,flintstones have some and I think gummy vitamins have some. I justchecked my kids' vitamins and they have some. > > >> > > Okay everybody... I need your help...advice. ..please I am > feeling > > > blue,embarrassed,

confused and stressed.> > > > > > Today I got an email from my son's Special Ed. teacher saying > that > > my > > > son kept putting his head down and saying he was tired. She told > > him > > > 2 times to get his book out and he didn't. Then he said is was in > > his > > > locker but realized it was in his desk. When all the kids started > > > their work...he put his head down again...2 times she asked > > him...she > > > gave him five minutes and then she sent him to "FIX IT" for 2 > > > periods....it is a room for kids that are defiant, disrupptive > and > > > behaving badly....> > > > > > Now my son was out and we had to go get him and bring him home to > > > explain what happened. He didn't really care that he went to fix > > >

it ...he was tired...I really don't think he was being > defiant....I > > > think he is really tired...we put him to bed at 9 pm and wake him > > at > > > 6:30am...we told him now that he has no games during the week and > > > bedtime will be 8:30 and on weekends latest will be 10 pm. > > > > > > I think I will take him to the doctor and have him checked out. > Now > > I > > > am concerned because he is so tired.> > > > > > I feel like the teacher was annoyed with him and I feel like > > crying. > > > My son doesn't seem to get it...it is like he is in his own > > > world...he is so irresponsible. ..> > > > > > what do I do? I am so tired ...i just want to throw my hands up > and > > > walk away...he doesn't care and I am tired of

pushing, arguing, > and > > > doing and doing and nothing turn out right. > > > > > > And, these teacher make me feel rotten...> > > > > > Jan> > > > > > Crying my eyes while my son lays here sound asleep at 7:10 pm> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: > 10/9/2008 9:44 AM> >>

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On Jun 14, 5:08pm, " Roxanna " wrote:

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} I never heard of this being a common problem. I don't even hear about it o=

} n the news and I watch news and read news a lot. Is this a Dan doctor kind=

} of thing - a big concern over sunscreen and vitamin D?=20=20

I don't think it's just DAN doctors, because it comes up fairly often

on my diabetes list. I can't say I've taken it very seriously though...

not to insult anyone, but I've seen so many vitamin fads come and go.

Willa

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New vitamin D iu intake recommendations were recently announced in

the news for children, I believe, last week. The only vit D my son

gets from DAN suggested protocol (our DAN dr. is an MD and a

psychiatrist) is what occurs in CLO.

I probably read different health info, as I work in holistic health,

and follow integrative medicine and never, ever take any health

studies that are reported in the news at face value until I read the

study myself, and then see where it was done and who funded it (ah!

what an eye opener it is to follow the money).

Vitamin D recommendations have been discussed in health news a lot in

recent years, especially as relates to osteoporosis. Calcium needs

Vit D to be absorbed. I personally know a handful of women who were

taking high doses of Calcium at the suggestion of their MD, only to

find it was ineffective w/o adequate Vit D for the body to absorb it.

My mom's rheumatologist has her on high dose Vit D to help boost her

immunity and to increase calcium absorbtion (to prevent continued

joint deterioration from severe osteoarthritis).

Hope that helps!

> >

> > Okay everybody... I need your

help...advice. ..please I am feeling

> > blue,embarrassed, confused and

stressed.

> >

> > Today I got an email from my

son's Special Ed. teacher saying that

> my

> > son kept putting his head down

and saying he was tired. She told

> him

> > 2 times to get his book out and

he didn't. Then he said is was in

> his

> > locker but realized it was in his

desk. When all the kids started

> > their work...he put his head down

again...2 times she asked

> him...she

> > gave him five minutes and then

she sent him to " FIX IT " for 2

> > periods....it is a room for kids

that are defiant, disrupptive and

> > behaving badly....

> >

> > Now my son was out and we had to

go get him and bring him home to

> > explain what happened. He didn't

really care that he went to fix

> > it ...he was tired...I really

don't think he was being defiant....I

> > think he is really tired...we put

him to bed at 9 pm and wake him

> at

> > 6:30am...we told him now that he

has no games during the week and

> > bedtime will be 8:30 and on

weekends latest will be 10 pm.

> >

> > I think I will take him to the

doctor and have him checked out. Now

> I

> > am concerned because he is so

tired.

> >

> > I feel like the teacher was

annoyed with him and I feel like

> crying.

> > My son doesn't seem to get

it...it is like he is in his own

> > world...he is so irresponsible. ..

> >

> > what do I do? I am so tired ...i

just want to throw my hands up and

> > walk away...he doesn't care and I

am tired of pushing, arguing, and

> > doing and doing and nothing turn

out right.

> >

> > And, these teacher make me feel

rotten...

> >

> > Jan

> >

> > Crying my eyes while my son lays

here sound asleep at 7:10 pm

> >

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The very first thing my Rheumy put me on a little over two years ago was

Caltrate - it has 600mg of Calcium and 400mg of Vitamin D. He told me to take

one tablet twice daily. I don't know if its made a difference or not, but I do

know that Calcium is good for bone health and Vitamin D is important for Calcium

absorption (among other things). The way I see it is I'm at least protecting my

bones as much as possible while we are still trying to get this RA under

control. I have sero-negative RA, so just because the test comes back negative

does not mean you don't have RA.

Best of luck to you both.....Doreen

>

> From: susiestepro <susiestepro@...>

> Subject: [ ] - Re: vitamin D deficiency

>

> Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 10:54 AM

>

> I just read your post on this. How coincidental! My doctor just found out my

vitamin D is very, very low. My RA factor test does not show I have RA. Could my

problem only be from lack of vitamin D? What could cause me to get so low in it

if that is the case? Do people with RA tend to become deficient in vitamin D, or

does this go along with RA disease somehow?

>

> Thanks, Susie

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all...I'm still awaiting our Hair Elements results, but got some blood work

back. and I are both Vit D deficient. normal range 32-100 ng/mL and we

were both at 23. i've seen other sources report normal optimal range being over

50 ng/mL.

>

> I should also mention that we were already supplementing with Vit D when we

had the bloodwork drawn. Not much...just as part of a Kirkman's Calcium/Vit D

supplement. just looked at the amounts and it's not much at all, but it is

something. and we already eat grass-fed beef, organic eggs from free range

chickens, etc. I had been doing Cod Liver Oil supps for both of us, but had

discontinued them back in September when i decided to start from a clean slate.

>

> so...it's one more piece to our puzzle i guess....i don't see it as part of

the counting rules,

The counting rules ONLY apply to what you see on a hair test.

>so i'm guessing that it's not related to mercury toxicity.

Actually it is a very common finding in those with mercury problems.

>anyone have any ideas as to why we're so low. would it be common in southern

Virginia in the winter? I've read that it can be related to celiac (poor

absorption) and parasites. any ideas?

Mercury.

>

> Thanks

> Kari

>

Andy

www.noamalgam.com

www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Andy. So I guess the " Diagnostic Checklist for Mercury Intoxication " on

p. 56 of the Amalgam Illness book is NOT what everyone's talking about with the

counting rules. I clearly need to spend some more time devouring your book and

this message board just hard to sit down and let it all sink in!

Kari

> >

> > Hi all...I'm still awaiting our Hair Elements results, but got some blood

work back. and I are both Vit D deficient. normal range 32-100 ng/mL and

we were both at 23. i've seen other sources report normal optimal range being

over 50 ng/mL.

> >

> > I should also mention that we were already supplementing with Vit D when we

had the bloodwork drawn. Not much...just as part of a Kirkman's Calcium/Vit D

supplement. just looked at the amounts and it's not much at all, but it is

something. and we already eat grass-fed beef, organic eggs from free range

chickens, etc. I had been doing Cod Liver Oil supps for both of us, but had

discontinued them back in September when i decided to start from a clean slate.

> >

> > so...it's one more piece to our puzzle i guess....i don't see it as part of

the counting rules,

>

> The counting rules ONLY apply to what you see on a hair test.

>

> >so i'm guessing that it's not related to mercury toxicity.

>

> Actually it is a very common finding in those with mercury problems.

>

> >anyone have any ideas as to why we're so low. would it be common in southern

Virginia in the winter? I've read that it can be related to celiac (poor

absorption) and parasites. any ideas?

>

>

> Mercury.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Kari

> >

>

> Andy

>

> www.noamalgam.com

>

> www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

>

[Guest guest]

I found the counting rules...I understand and can't wait for these results to

come back. It should only be a few days now! I'd love to have some answers soon

Kari

> > >

> > > Hi all...I'm still awaiting our Hair Elements results, but got some blood

work back. and I are both Vit D deficient. normal range 32-100 ng/mL and

we were both at 23. i've seen other sources report normal optimal range being

over 50 ng/mL.

> > >

> > > I should also mention that we were already supplementing with Vit D when

we had the bloodwork drawn. Not much...just as part of a Kirkman's Calcium/Vit

D supplement. just looked at the amounts and it's not much at all, but it is

something. and we already eat grass-fed beef, organic eggs from free range

chickens, etc. I had been doing Cod Liver Oil supps for both of us, but had

discontinued them back in September when i decided to start from a clean slate.

> > >

> > > so...it's one more piece to our puzzle i guess....i don't see it as part

of the counting rules,

> >

> > The counting rules ONLY apply to what you see on a hair test.

> >

> > >so i'm guessing that it's not related to mercury toxicity.

> >

> > Actually it is a very common finding in those with mercury problems.

> >

> > >anyone have any ideas as to why we're so low. would it be common in

southern Virginia in the winter? I've read that it can be related to celiac

(poor absorption) and parasites. any ideas?

> >

> >

> > Mercury.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Kari

> > >

> >

> > Andy

> >

> > www.noamalgam.com

> >

> > www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> >

>