Re: Americans Back Stem Cell Research

[Guest guest]

 

 

Well if the prestigious World News would report a survey result where 72% of

Americans support embryonic stem cell research - I guess it must be ok! 

Remember anybody can sponsor a survey and the results can easily be skewed by

how the questions are asked.

 

If only Dr Mengele could have lived to see this day!

 

So - my life does not depend on using the stem cells of another human being,

neither do the lives of my loved ones.  To be fair you never know if you would

use them until that situation arises - but if did elect to do so my own heart

would clearly know it was wrong and that I made a deal with the Devil.   No, I

don't mean President Obama!!

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

 

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians, according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into " precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient, and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial, get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

I am confused.  A month ago my Parkinson's

newsletter said stem cell research had been stopped, and urged everyone to

write their congressmen.  Well, obviously it has not been stopped, which I am

in favor of, but don't understand where the info in that newsletter came from.

This is a huge moral and political issue,

a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29

DX 5/1995

Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years

02/2000 to

06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU

06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU

06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU

04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months

04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich.

01/2009 PCR 5.69

04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534

09/2009 PCR 0.01

11/2009 PCR 0.034

02/2010 PCRU

#840 Zavie's Zero Club

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

 

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians, according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into " precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient, and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial, get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

Sorry, my computer and I are having a bad day!!!

Everyone, this is certainly  a controversial topic.  Us old timers, like

Lottie and me, and I don't mean old timers as far as how long we have had CML, I

mean OLD timers, in the 80's, well, we go back a long ways.  When we were young

no one ever heard of going to the moon, but it's been done.  And creating life

in a test tube?  get outta here!  And the idea

saving a life with an umbilical cord, well now you are a real nut case!  We

have seen a lot of things happen, some good, some not so good. But the fact

remains, all of these things and many more have certainly changed our way of

living, and thinking.  My personal opinion is this, if they have already

created life by invitro fertilization, and are going to throw what remains away,

if it can be put to

use, then it should be used.  If there is a way to cure Parkinson's and MD and

Cerebral palsy, and epilepsy, then by all means use it.  I don't think life

should ever have been conceived in a test tube, but it's been done and has led

to stem cell research and 's here to stay.  If it can help save  a loved one,

so be it.

I truly thought stem cell research had been stopped, temporarily, but I guess my

Parkinson's news letter was wrong.  Sorry Lottie, I can't back this up, it's

just how I feel. As I have mentioned before, if there was ANY way to make my son

in law get well, I am all for it.  To see him deteriorate emotionally and

physically every day is heart breaking.  That's my two cents worth, Bobby

a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29

DX 5/1995

Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years

02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU

06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU

06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU

04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months

04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich.

01/2009 PCR 5.69

04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534

09/2009 PCR 0.01

11/2009 PCR 0.034

02/2010 PCRU

#840 Zavie's Zero Club

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

 

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians, according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into " precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient, and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial, get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

News flash

 

 

North Korean Dr finds way to cure all Parkinson patients!

 

This Dr has determined if you take the pancreas from a 9 month old infant and

then extract out all the stem cells and culture them the right way - 5 Parkinson

patients can recieve these cells by intravenous injection.  Within 6 months

those stem cells will nest in the reciepients body and provide enough nutrients

to allow the recepient to build new capabilites and eliminate parkinson's

symptoms indefinetly.

 

No word was given on the funeral arrangements for the the infant.

 

 

Just helping you determine where the line gets drawn!

 

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

 

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians, according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into " precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient, and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial, get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

Lines are drawn every day in medicine i.e. what is the best treatment for the

patient.  Because of the sensitive nature of the decisions they are hopefully

left to the doctor and patient, who is guided by his or her own religious

beliefs. ...not the drug companies, insuranace companies,  religious

zealots, politicians etc. Those who feel that stem cells are more sacred than

other cells and would not be comfortable benefiting from such treatment can

decline to accept such treatment.

If a doctor and patient decided to kill  a 9 month old they would be

prosecuted

for murder in all the jurisdictions in the United States.  Most with common

sense would not advocate prosecution of  doctors who do research with stem

cells

or who kill

living cancer cells for that matter...they are also a part of the universe of

life.  If you believe in a Loving God, as I do, I do not for one minute assume

our CML is outside of God's creation and I am very grateful for all who have

contributed to its eradication. If stem cell research could help eliminate CML

and other deadly disease that resulst in human suffering  it should continue.

The bottom line: Most of us are capable of drawing the line between stem cells

and a 9 month old.  For those not capable of that it is best they choose not to

benefit from stem cell research because their emotional, mental and

spiritual suffering would be unbearable. It is not appropriate for people

incapable of any distinction ( i.e. stem cells are the same as a  9 month old

child) to impose their beliefs on others. 

A study of all religious traditions reveals a complete lack of concensus on

" when life begins " , including groups within the Christian tradition.  There is

also a complete lack of consensus as to whether it  is ever acceptable to

kill..

self defense, defense of others...war, death penalty, etc. We are fortunate to

live in a country where none of the  various religious beliefs have been forced

on all of us....yet.

________________________________

From: Mr Stickel <stick924@...>

Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 10:20:21 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

 

News flash

 

 

North Korean Dr finds way to cure all Parkinson patients!

 

This Dr has determined if you take the pancreas from a 9 month old infant and

then extract out all the stem cells and culture them the right way - 5 Parkinson

patients can recieve these cells by intravenous injection.  Within 6 months

those stem cells will nest in the reciepients body and provide enough nutrients

to allow the recepient to build new capabilites and eliminate parkinson's

symptoms indefinetly.

 

No word was given on the funeral arrangements for the the infant.

 

 

Just helping you determine where the line gets drawn!

 

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

 

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians, according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into " precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient, and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial, get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

Can you philosophically explain why a 9 month old is a human and an embryo

is not?

[ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < <mailto:%40> >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic

stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of

demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians,

according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed

believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from

in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and

other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into

" precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up

the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe

positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient,

and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial,

get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the

smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the

next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and

whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

Philosophically, for the same reason that an acorn is not a tree.  But we are

not talking philosophy here.   We are talking about religious beliefs.  We

are

talking aout life and respect for life.  I have to assume from your exacmple

that you and I do not view the world the same nor do we understand God the same.

We will have to live with that for now.

________________________________

From: Neal <nwatson@...>

Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 11:21:32 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

 

Can you philosophically explain why a 9 month old is a human and an embryo

is not?

[ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < <mailto:%40> >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic

stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of

demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians,

according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed

believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from

in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and

other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into

" precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up

the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe

positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient,

and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial,

get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the

smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the

next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and

whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

when I read the words religious zealots - I probably should have stopped right

there!  By the way should'nt preterm babies have the right to decline

participation in embryonic research as well?

 

So most of us can draw the line between a 9 month old baby and a stem cell? 

Let me remind you that it is actually a time line.  If you don't kill a

baby when it is a collection of stem cells he/she will, in 9 months, become a

9 month old baby.  I see this as a fundamental rule of nature.  What I like to

say in regard to this is that I will continue to believe in this " matriculation "

until the day that the New York Times - or its equally esteemed counterpart -

the World News - reports that a mother has given birth to a player piano.

 

I am not talking politics or persecution here - I am telling you what I believe

is right and wrong. This morning when I jumped up on this horse - I asked my

wife if it would be ok to kill a 9 month old baby and harvest their stem cells

to cure 1,000 people.  To my dismay - she thought it would be ok!  So then I

asked her would she feel the same way if they said it had to be her son or

daughter that was the " donor.  Thankfully she changed her view.  Of course the

case is made that these babies in waiting are cast offs by parents who no longer

need them.  Well I believe there are many parents in waiting who would like to

teach them to read and give a hug to.  Perhaps on other side willing stangers

can dontate their efforts to create a business of providing embyonic stem cells

to the highest bidder?

 

So please leave the religious right out of this and leave it to all individuals

to have and fight for their own beliefs!  The last thing I need to here from

are some barborous leftist anarchists who have stock in a human genome start

up!  (of course I don't mean that - but I felt it was a fair comeback to the

comment about the religous right zelots).  Once again if Hitler and Germany had

won World War II we would have chemical solutions to all the worlds troubles

already!!

I don't go to church every week but the next time I do I will say a prayer for

you!

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

 

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians, according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into " precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient, and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial, get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

I am sure that we do not understand God in the same manner, but more

importantly, I do not think that we understand what a human is in the same

manner. I also think that you really have little to no idea what my

religious beliefs are.

Choosing a point at which a developing, living, genetically unique organism

changes from non-human to human is nothing other than arbitrary. By using

the acorn/tree example, you are asserting that to be " human " is to be in

some advanced stage of the development cycle.

My respect for life has everything to do with the dignity of the human

person. I would equally object to research using the bodies of unwilling

death row inmates. Relieving suffering is not a sufficient reason to violate

human dignity.

[ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40> >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic

stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of

demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians,

according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed

believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from

in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and

other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into

" precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up

the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe

positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient,

and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial,

get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the

smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the

next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and

whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

Nice and concise - you are my hero!

 

thanks!

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@... <mailto:lotajam%40comcast.net>

<mailto:lotajam%40comcast.net> >

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40> >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic

stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of

demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians,

according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed

believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from

in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and

other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into

" precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up

the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe

positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient,

and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial,

get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the

smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the

next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and

whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

When I read your statement concerning North Korea I did not see a  mention of

your religious beliefs.    I assumed since you posted an extreme and

inflammatory  example you were inviting discussion.

 I see you  identified strongly with the term " religious zealots " in my

posting

and concluded I was discussing the " religious right " .  I appreciate

your more candid response.

You and I actually agree that  " individuals should fight for their beliefs "

if 

by that statement you include that we  should honestly communicate about 

beliefs in an effort to enlighten and or effect the other person's thinking.

Leftist? Anarchists? Stock Owners of the Genome Project?  I will leave you to

carry on your fight over your beliefs with them, if that is your desire. I must

assume you know people on this posting who fit your stereotyping.  I am not

one

of them.

And thank you for the prayer you say for me, in or out of church!  Prayer opens

the heart.

________________________________

From: Mr Stickel <stick924@...>

Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 11:38:36 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

 

when I read the words religious zealots - I probably should have stopped right

there!  By the way should'nt preterm babies have the right to decline

participation in embryonic research as well?

 

So most of us can draw the line between a 9 month old baby and a stem cell? 

Let

me remind you that it is actually a time line.  If you don't kill a baby when

it

is a collection of stem cells he/she will, in 9 months, become a 9 month old

baby.  I see this as a fundamental rule of nature.  What I like to say in

regard

to this is that I will continue to believe in this " matriculation " until the day

that the New York Times - or its equally esteemed counterpart - the World

News - reports that a mother has given birth to a player piano.

 

I am not talking politics or persecution here - I am telling you what I believe

is right and wrong. This morning when I jumped up on this horse - I asked my

wife if it would be ok to kill a 9 month old baby and harvest their stem cells

to cure 1,000 people.  To my dismay - she thought it would be ok!  So then I

asked her would she feel the same way if they said it had to be her son or

daughter that was the " donor.  Thankfully she changed her view.  Of course the

case is made that these babies in waiting are cast offs by parents who no longer

need them.  Well I believe there are many parents in waiting who would like to

teach them to read and give a hug to.  Perhaps on other side willing stangers

can dontate their efforts to create a business of providing embyonic stem cells

to the highest bidder?

 

So please leave the religious right out of this and leave it to all individuals

to have and fight for their own beliefs!  The last thing I need to here from

are

some barborous leftist anarchists who have stock in a human genome start up! 

(of course I don't mean that - but I felt it was a fair comeback to the comment

about the religous right zelots).  Once again if Hitler and Germany had won

World War II we would have chemical solutions to all the worlds troubles

already!!

I don't go to church every week but the next time I do I will say a prayer for

you!

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

 

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians, according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into " precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient, and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial, get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

I am sure you are  absolutely right.  We do not understand God or humans in

the

same manner.  And I know nothing of your religious beleifs. Nor you of mine. 

I

just was having a " discussion " I thought.  Have a good day.

________________________________

From: Neal <nwatson@...>

Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 11:55:51 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

 

I am sure that we do not understand God in the same manner, but more

importantly, I do not think that we understand what a human is in the same

manner. I also think that you really have little to no idea what my

religious beliefs are.

Choosing a point at which a developing, living, genetically unique organism

changes from non-human to human is nothing other than arbitrary. By using

the acorn/tree example, you are asserting that to be " human " is to be in

some advanced stage of the development cycle.

My respect for life has everything to do with the dignity of the human

person. I would equally object to research using the bodies of unwilling

death row inmates. Relieving suffering is not a sufficient reason to violate

human dignity.

[ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40> >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic

stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of

demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians,

according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed

believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from

in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and

other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into

" precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up

the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe

positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient,

and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial,

get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the

smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the

next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and

whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

Nice response too

 

Leftist, anarchist and so on > I merely chose thoses words to contrast them to

the comment about ...zealots..... < off base and insulting.

 

Clearly I don't think you are one( of any of the groups referenced)  and

I would not presume to make that type of judgement. And no - I don't know

anybody like that.

 

I got my back up here today and tried to pick up the glove thrown down in the

ring this morning.  I rarely do that here.  But I am happy to have had the

exchange and to carry the ball for all my firends that are babies/human beings

in waiting!

 

thanks for your kind reply to a tough response from me.

 

For the rest of the week I will be getting ready to cheer on my Yankees!! Given

you have an SBC address - I will wish the Rangers good luck here (but only this

one time).

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

 

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians, according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into " precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient, and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial, get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

Are we not now having a discussion? You were the one to bring up religious

belief, not me.

What I said was not meant as an insult. You don't know my religious or

political beliefs, and I don't know yours, other than you believe that to be

human is to have progressed to some point along the life cycle and that I

believe that one is a human person at all stages. So, it would be silly to

dismiss what I say as " religious not philosophical " , which obviously implies

an inference of my religious beliefs (and fallaciously asserts that the two

cannot intersect). This is especially true given that I did not even mention

whether or not I had any religious belief at all prior your assertion

regarding the content of said discussion.

[ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40> >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic

stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of

demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians,

according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed

believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from

in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and

other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into

" precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up

the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe

positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient,

and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial,

get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the

smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the

next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and

whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

Actually, when I responded to you I mistakenly thought I was talking with

someone named Chris.    I apologize. I was not insulted at all by your

response.

 You have drawn some incorrect conclusions from my comments.  Example: your

reference that I believe to be human involves  progressing to some point along

the life cycle etc. This characterization does not represent at all  what I

believe concerning what it means to be human.  Interesting concept though.

I did not intend to be " silly " as you characterize my statements to you.  I

had

no intention of dismissing your thoughts or belief system nor did I   intend

to

" fallaciously " assert that religion and philosophy  " can not intersect " . 

I happen to believe that religion and   philosophy can  intersect.

Your most recent response suggests I have not been clear in my writing.  I say

this because you have drawn conclusions about my beliefs that are not

correct.  

You of course are free to draw any conclusions about my beliefs that you like

if

it makes you feel right and more comfortable.   I consider the end result to

be

a failure of communication on my part, not yours. 

I think I can do better however I don't have time to work on it right now.  I

got carried away on the computer and I am late for a meeting.  

If you are interested in any further " discussion " with me it will have to

wait. 

 

________________________________

From: Neal <nwatson@...>

Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 1:24:34 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

 

Are we not now having a discussion? You were the one to bring up religious

belief, not me.

What I said was not meant as an insult. You don't know my religious or

political beliefs, and I don't know yours, other than you believe that to be

human is to have progressed to some point along the life cycle and that I

believe that one is a human person at all stages. So, it would be silly to

dismiss what I say as " religious not philosophical " , which obviously implies

an inference of my religious beliefs (and fallaciously asserts that the two

cannot intersect). This is especially true given that I did not even mention

whether or not I had any religious belief at all prior your assertion

regarding the content of said discussion.

[ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40> >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic

stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of

demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians,

according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed

believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from

in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and

other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into

" precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up

the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe

positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient,

and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial,

get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the

smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the

next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and

whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

[Guest guest]

well said!!!

Sharon

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Mr

Stickel

Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:08 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

Nice and concise - you are my hero!

thanks!

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@... <mailto:lotajam%40comcast.net>

<mailto:lotajam%40comcast.net>

<mailto:lotajam%40comcast.net> >

Subject: [ ] Americans Back Stem Cell Research

" CML " < <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40> >

Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

Daily News2010-10-07 -- Americans overwhelmingly support embryonic

stem

cell research, and that backing stretches across a broad range of

demographic

groups, including Republicans, Catholics and born-again Christians,

according to

a new poll. Almost three-quarters (72 percent) of the adults surveyed

believe

that scientists should be allowed to use embryonic stem cells left over from

in

vitro fertilization procedures to search for potential treatments or ways to

prevent diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes and

other

conditions. Only 12 percent oppose using stem cells for biomedical research,

numbers...

http://tinyurl.com/2bcddg6

___________________

Embryonic Stem Cells Mature Before Injection

" Before being given to patients, the embryonic cells are matured into

" precursor

cells " destined to become oligodendrocytes. These are the cells that make up

the

myelin sheaths that protect nerves in the spinal cord. It's hoped that the

GRNOPC1 cells will restore spinal function by replacing lost myelin and by

giving off chemical signals that promote new nerve growth. The cells are

injected directly into the site of the spinal injury using a syringe

positioning

device that attaches to the frame of the operating room table.

" Patients in the study must undergo short-term immune-suppressing therapy to

ensure that their bodies do not reject the new cells. The Atlanta patient,

and

nine more patients to be enrolled in the first phase of the clinical trial,

get

only small doses of the GRNOPC1 cells. It's the human equivalent of the

smallest

dose to show benefit in animal studies. If the treatment proves safe, the

next

phase of the study will use up to tenfold larger doses of the cells.

" Key questions are whether the stem cells will spur growth of tumors called

teratomas, whether the cells will be rejected by the immune system, and

whether

there will be unintended consequences such as nerve pain.

http://tinyurl.com/26tquqz

_________________________________

FYI,

Lottie Duthu