Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 At 04:38 PM 1/5/2008, you wrote: >Does anyone have experience getting relief from ascites using >alternative means - perhaps using herbs? > >ie I often use corseting for malignant ascites. If need be the patient must be tapped to reduce the load to a manageable amount. For example, if approximately four liters is in the abdomen, drain two liters. This is also a good opportunity to administer intraperitoneal meds. The liquid that is drained can be filtered, refrigerated, and administered to the patient as an IV at a later time -- especially if the albumin is low. Corset the patient the patient immediately after the paracentesis. It must be tight but not so tight that the patient has problems breathing. For complete coverage I often recommend two medical corsets at different heights going from the costal margin to the pubes. If the lower area is not compressed liquid will tend to accumulate there, so I have the patient roll up a towel for insertion under the lower corset. Over the next week or so the patient will usually take up the remaining fluid. The corset must become the patient's new best friend. It should be removed for bathing and then immediately reapplied. Some patients may have to wear this off and on for months until the underlying problem is resolved. This is not standard medical practice although variations of this have been used by bold practitioners in the US and France for 200 years. Corseting can also be done in ascites associated with cirrhosis of the liver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 ie- did you try googling " ascites herbs " ? There is a lot of material. I don't want to get into a position of prescribing but you might want to research a couple of Chinese formulas used for ascites, Golden Box and Dynamic Warrior. Other herbs you might want to research from an herb book (The Energetics of Western Herbs by Holmes) that has some classes of herbs that act on fluid build-up in the abdomen by different means- Class 2 Draining diuretics- Promote urination, drain fluid congestion, relieve edema, dissolve deposits- Lovage root, Goldenrod herb, Couch grass root, Scotch Broom, Dandelion leaf, European Elder bark Class 9 Herbs to enrich Liver Parasympathetic system, Nourish the blood and relieve fatigue, relieve edema and dissolve deposits- Artichoke leaf, Nettle herb, Chicory root Class 13 Cool diuretic depurant detoxicants- Herbs to promote detoxification, clear damp and dissolve deposits- Echinacea root, Chaparral leaf, Cleavers herb, Red clover flower, Violet root/herb, Poke root, Garlic bulb, Yellow dock root, Solanum Long Kui, Sophora Ku Shen, Oldenlandia Bai Hua She She Cao. Some herbal formulas will combine several of these herbs. I hope this helps, On Jan 5, 2008, at 4:38 PM, hotfudgekitten wrote: > Does anyone have experience getting relief from ascites using > alternative means - perhaps using herbs? > > ie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Has anyone had the side effect of ascites while on Gleevec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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