Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 These are political opinions. Â Thus, I will give mine. Â " Obamacare " is not Obamacare--it's the mutation of input from all over--some legitimate and some just obstruction. Moreover, the opinion about the recent court case that found " Obamacare " was constitutional is just ignorant. Â Unconstitutional does not equate to every time you don't get your way. Â From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> Subject: [ ] Family Research Council Health News " CML " < > Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 11:22 PM Â WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some bipartisanship. According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the President's own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In each one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd ___________________ This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01 ________________________ FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Here is a summary of some of the actual benefits in President Obama's health insurance reform law. Insurers will no longer be able to deny coverage to children with pre-existing conditions, so that a child with CML can still get coverage. Unfortunately adults CML patients will have to wait until 2014 before the insurance industry discrimination against patients with pre-existing conditions is outlawed. •Insurers cannot drop coverage of people who get sick, including CML patients. •End of lifetime limits of coverage, so that if a CML patient needs a transplant, it must be covered, no matter how high the price tag. •Young adults can stay on their parents' plan up to age 26 or until they get their own coverage, very important for young people with CML who may find it difficult to find a job with health insurance due to economy. •Preventive care must be provided with no additional out-of-pocket costs. •Insurance companies cannot charge more for out-of-network emergency room visits. ________________________________ From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> CML < > Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 9:22:04 PM Subject: [ ] Family Research Council Health News WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some bipartisanship. According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the President's own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In each one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd ___________________ This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01 ________________________ FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Carl, Insurers in Washington State are starting to stop issuing policies for children. This is a result of a poorly designed plan. It is a shame that something as important as health care reform was hastily conceived to met a campaign deadline, rather then a well thought out plan that could benefit everyone. M > > Here is a summary of some of the actual benefits in President Obama's health > insurance reform law. > > > Insurers will no longer be able to deny coverage to children with pre-existing > conditions, so that a child with CML can still get coverage. Unfortunately > adults CML patients will have to wait until 2014 before the insurance industry > discrimination against patients with pre-existing conditions is outlawed. > > •Insurers cannot drop coverage of people who get sick, including CML patients. > > •End of lifetime limits of coverage, so that if a CML patient needs a > transplant, it must be covered, no matter how high the price tag. > > •Young adults can stay on their parents' plan up to age 26 or until they get > their own coverage, very important for young people with CML who may find it > difficult to find a job with health insurance due to economy. > > •Preventive care must be provided with no additional out-of-pocket costs. > > •Insurance companies cannot charge more for out-of-network emergency room > visits. > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> > CML < > > Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 9:22:04 PM > Subject: [ ] Family Research Council Health News > > > WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL > > " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some bipartisanship. > According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the > numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law > overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the President's > own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% > of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman > Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In each > one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " > And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " > > http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd > ___________________ > This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic > decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man > ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, > brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse > of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh > disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a > " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of > course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere > does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase > anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, > who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people > who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable > means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) > > http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01 > ________________________ > FYI, > Lottie Duthu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 : With all due respect, the insurers are ceasing to issue policies for children out of pure vindictiveness and greed. The reason they stopped issuing policies for sick children is that their profits will be diminished because of associated costs. That is what we should be complaining about. Imagine, a child diagnosed with CML cannot get insurance when these companies are making huge profits. Is this the society we want? Actually, the health plan would have been much better if the Congressional Republicans had been more cooperative instead of trying to drive our President out of office by obstruction important legislation. Everyone who lives in Washington or any other state where insurance companies are placing profits over the health of their children should complain to their respective insurance commissioners and write letters of condemnation to their newspaper editors. What an outrage! Best,Carl ________________________________ From: M <johndee_54@...> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 12:57:55 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Family Research Council Health News Carl, Insurers in Washington State are starting to stop issuing policies for children. This is a result of a poorly designed plan. It is a shame that something as important as health care reform was hastily conceived to met a campaign deadline, rather then a well thought out plan that could benefit everyone. M > > Here is a summary of some of the actual benefits in President Obama's health > insurance reform law. > > > Insurers will no longer be able to deny coverage to children with pre-existing > conditions, so that a child with CML can still get coverage. Unfortunately > adults CML patients will have to wait until 2014 before the insurance industry > discrimination against patients with pre-existing conditions is outlawed. > > •Insurers cannot drop coverage of people who get sick, including CML >patients. > > •End of lifetime limits of coverage, so that if a CML patient needs a > transplant, it must be covered, no matter how high the price tag. > > •Young adults can stay on their parents' plan up to age 26 or until they get > their own coverage, very important for young people with CML who may find it > difficult to find a job with health insurance due to economy. > > •Preventive care must be provided with no additional out-of-pocket costs. > > •Insurance companies cannot charge more for out-of-network emergency room > visits. > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> > CML < > > Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 9:22:04 PM > Subject: [ ] Family Research Council Health News > > > WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL > > " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some >bipartisanship. > > According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the > numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law > overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the >President's > > own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% > > of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman > Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In >each > > one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " > And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " > > http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd > ___________________ > This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic > decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man > ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, > brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse > > of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh > disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a > > " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of > course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere > does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase > anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, > who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people > who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable > means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) > > http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01 > ________________________ > FYI, > Lottie Duthu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I believe you are right Carl. And as this is the first health care program there are going to be kinks in it, and if they would quit acting like they are in kindergarten, and worked together for the benefit of everyone, things would get worked out. Not that everyone is going to be pleased, but it will be better than nothing. I am especially interested in how drugs like Gleevec and Sprycel will be covered. Bobby a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29 DX 5/1995 Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years 02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU 06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU 06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU 04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months 04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich. 01/2009 PCR 5.69 04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534 09/2009 PCR 0.01 11/2009 PCR 0.034 02/2010 PCRU #840 Zavie's Zero Club From: Carl Davies <ctdavies2003@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Family Research Council Health News Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 4:49 PM  : With all due respect, the insurers are ceasing to issue policies for children out of pure vindictiveness and greed. The reason they stopped issuing policies for sick children is that their profits will be diminished because of associated costs. That is what we should be complaining about. Imagine, a child diagnosed with CML cannot get insurance when these companies are making huge profits. Is this the society we want? Actually, the health plan would have been much better if the Congressional Republicans had been more cooperative instead of trying to drive our President out of office by obstruction important legislation. Everyone who lives in Washington or any other state where insurance companies are placing profits over the health of their children should complain to their respective insurance commissioners and write letters of condemnation to their newspaper editors. What an outrage! Best,Carl ________________________________ From: M <johndee_54@...> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 12:57:55 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Family Research Council Health News Carl, Insurers in Washington State are starting to stop issuing policies for children. This is a result of a poorly designed plan. It is a shame that something as important as health care reform was hastily conceived to met a campaign deadline, rather then a well thought out plan that could benefit everyone. M > > Here is a summary of some of the actual benefits in President Obama's health > insurance reform law. > > > Insurers will no longer be able to deny coverage to children with pre-existing > conditions, so that a child with CML can still get coverage. Unfortunately > adults CML patients will have to wait until 2014 before the insurance industry > discrimination against patients with pre-existing conditions is outlawed. > > •Insurers cannot drop coverage of people who get sick, including CML >patients. > > •End of lifetime limits of coverage, so that if a CML patient needs a > transplant, it must be covered, no matter how high the price tag. > > •Young adults can stay on their parents' plan up to age 26 or until they get > their own coverage, very important for young people with CML who may find it > difficult to find a job with health insurance due to economy. > > •Preventive care must be provided with no additional out-of-pocket costs. > > •Insurance companies cannot charge more for out-of-network emergency room > visits. > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> > CML < > > Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 9:22:04 PM > Subject: [ ] Family Research Council Health News > > > WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL > > " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some >bipartisanship. > > According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the > numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law > overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the >President's > > own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% > > of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman > Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In >each > > one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " > And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " > > http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd > ___________________ > This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic > decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man > ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, > brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse > > of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh > disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a > > " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of > course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere > does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase > anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, > who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people > who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable > means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) > > http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01 > ________________________ > FYI, > Lottie Duthu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I think that is an excellent example of why the public option should have been left in. A single payer system, a la France, would have been better. [ ] Family Research Council Health News > > > WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL > > " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some bipartisanship. > According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the > numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law > overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the President's > own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% > of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman > Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In each > one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " > And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " > > http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd > ___________________ > This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic > decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man > ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, > brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse > of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh > disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a > " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of > course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere > does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase > anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, > who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people > who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable > means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) > > http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 <http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01> & f=PG07J01 > ________________________ > FYI, > Lottie Duthu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Yes, I think even doctors know that. Â A huge part of the costs of both insurers and medical service providers is administrative, which a lot of that is figuring how not insure certain people and how to drop certain people off the insurance rolls. Â What we have now is beastly, and I use that term with exact specificity. From: Neal <nwatson@...> Subject: RE: [ ] Family Research Council Health News Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 4:36 PM I think that is an excellent example of why the public option should have been left in. A single payer system, a la France, would have been better. [ ] Family Research Council Health News > > > WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL > > " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some bipartisanship. > According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the > numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law > overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the President's > own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% > of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman > Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In each > one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " > And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " > > http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd > ___________________ > This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic > decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man > ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, > brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse > of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh > disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a > " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of > course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere > does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase > anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, > who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people > who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable > means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) > > http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 <http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01> & f=PG07J01 > ________________________ > FYI, > Lottie Duthu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 My doctors hate to deal with insurance companies. They don't like some insurance company desk jockey who sold used cars the previous week telling them what medical services they can perform. All of my doctors, heart, CML, etc., said they favored a public plan. One reason as that the expense ratio of a public plan like Medicare is about 3%. Private plans can have expense ratios as high as 35% due to commissions, junkets, advertising costs, exorbitant executive salaries, etc. The new health reform law will place limits on insurance company expenses that deprive consumers of vital benefits. ________________________________ From: Ted Fontenot <mortycausa@...> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 2:55:27 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Family Research Council Health News Yes, I think even doctors know that. A huge part of the costs of both insurers and medical service providers is administrative, which a lot of that is figuring how not insure certain people and how to drop certain people off the insurance rolls. What we have now is beastly, and I use that term with exact specificity. From: Neal <nwatson@...> Subject: RE: [ ] Family Research Council Health News Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 4:36 PM I think that is an excellent example of why the public option should have been left in. A single payer system, a la France, would have been better. [ ] Family Research Council Health News > > > WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL > > " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some bipartisanship. > According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the > numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law > overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the President's > own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% > of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman > Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In each > one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " > And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " > > http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd > ___________________ > This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic > decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man > ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, > brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse > of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh > disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a > " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of > course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere > does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase > anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, > who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people > who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable > means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) > > http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 <http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01> & f=PG07J01 > ________________________ > FYI, > Lottie Duthu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Carl, I agree with you. But if lawmakers had stepped back in their rush to get this reform passed and carefully constructed something that would eliminate loopholes, rather than create them, everyone would have been better off. The dartboard approach that was used by Congress is not the solution. The answers are though and the solution will never come as long as politics is the driving force. Take care, > > > > Here is a summary of some of the actual benefits in President Obama's health > > insurance reform law. > > > > > > Insurers will no longer be able to deny coverage to children with pre-existing > > > conditions, so that a child with CML can still get coverage. Unfortunately > > adults CML patients will have to wait until 2014 before the insurance industry > > > discrimination against patients with pre-existing conditions is outlawed. > > > > •Insurers cannot drop coverage of people who get sick, including CML > >patients. > > > > •End of lifetime limits of coverage, so that if a CML patient needs a > > transplant, it must be covered, no matter how high the price tag. > > > > •Young adults can stay on their parents' plan up to age 26 or until they get > > > their own coverage, very important for young people with CML who may find it > > difficult to find a job with health insurance due to economy. > > > > •Preventive care must be provided with no additional out-of-pocket costs. > > > > •Insurance companies cannot charge more for out-of-network emergency room > > visits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@> > > CML < > > > Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 9:22:04 PM > > Subject: [ ] Family Research Council Health News > > > > > > WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL > > > > " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some > >bipartisanship. > > > > According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the > > numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law > > overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the > >President's > > > > own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% > > > > of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman > > Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In > >each > > > > one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " > > > And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " > > > > http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd > > ___________________ > > This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic > > decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man > > ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, > > brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse > > > > of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh > > disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a > > > > " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of > > course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere > > does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase > > anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, > > > who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people > > who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable > > means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) > > > > http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01 > > ________________________ > > FYI, > > Lottie Duthu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxNhOBemsic & feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QajhWiBhPhg & feature=related The above links are interviews with author T. R. Reid  who wrote a book comparing many health care systems around the world.  One is a long interview on C-Span, over an hour and very thorough, and the other is short and concise, about 7 minutes.  Every advanced industrial nation in the world but this one has a national health care system, and every one pays a lot less for health care than we do.  Ours is a system of the corrupt and greedy, by the corrupt and greedy, for the corrupt and greedy, at the expense of the trusting and needy.  Unfortunately no issue in this country is ever resolved without turning it first into a metaphysical question for the ages, then subverting it so that its absurd and ineffective. From: Carl Davies <ctdavies2003@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Family Research Council Health News To: Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 10:37 AM  Here is a summary of some of the actual benefits in President Obama's health insurance reform law. Insurers will no longer be able to deny coverage to children with pre-existing conditions, so that a child with CML can still get coverage. Unfortunately adults CML patients will have to wait until 2014 before the insurance industry discrimination against patients with pre-existing conditions is outlawed. •Insurers cannot drop coverage of people who get sick, including CML patients. •End of lifetime limits of coverage, so that if a CML patient needs a transplant, it must be covered, no matter how high the price tag. •Young adults can stay on their parents' plan up to age 26 or until they get their own coverage, very important for young people with CML who may find it difficult to find a job with health insurance due to economy. •Preventive care must be provided with no additional out-of-pocket costs. •Insurance companies cannot charge more for out-of-network emergency room visits. ________________________________ From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> CML < > Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 9:22:04 PM Subject: [ ] Family Research Council Health News WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HEALTHCARE BILL " he President's new health care law is finally resulting in some bipartisanship. According to a new poll, both parties are growing to hate it. Although the numbers for repeal are solidly in the Republican camp (56% want the law overturned), a general dissatisfaction is starting to creep into the President's own party. A shocking one in four Democrats is now in favor of repeal--with 49% of undecided voters piling on. That news is particularly bad for 12 Freshman Democrats, who are taking a crack at a second term in hostile districts. In each one, " a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. " And that starts with firing the people who put it there. " http://tinyurl.com/26rf9yd ___________________ This just in: " Congress is assuming control of all your personal economic decisions. Or so says Judge Steeh, who yesterday became the first man ever to rule on the constitutionality of the new health care law. The suit, brought by our friends at the More Law Center, argued that it's an abuse of power for Congress to order Americans to buy health insurance. Judge Steeh disagreed, insisting (in his 20-page opinion) that the federal government has a " right " to force citizens to buy products whether they want them or not. Of course, there's nothing in the Constitution to support that argument. Nowhere does it state that citizens can be required by an act of Congress to purchase anything--including insurance policies. But that didn't matter to Judge Steeh, who also struck down a challenge over the financial penalty imposed on people who don't buy insurance. " The minimum coverage provision... is a reasonable means of effectuating Congress's goal, " he wrote. " (more at Website) http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10J05 & f=PG07J01 ________________________ FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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