Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 If you join Grouply, be aware that you are giving up your privacy when you give them your ID and password. They can then do whatever they like with your personal information and all your posts become public. bw nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Thank you I read information briefly on the Grouply, I am the owner and I am not joining Grouply. I did not feel comfortable with the information I read. Yahoo is copyrighted and I will see what I can find out, but I not joining and they can not take over the group. I will see what I can find out about archives, but I believe they will in violation of Yahoo's copyright if they attempt access in that manor. Thank you sincerely, Bev Weakley Owner > > Listowners, please look into Grouply, and the rumors that if a Yahoo group member is also a member of Grouply, then all of the archives of any yahoo group they belong to are then accessible to members of Grouply. > > See below: > > This on Snopes: > > > There are a few new services coming online which are social > > " networking " sites similar to My Space and Facebook. One of these new > > services is called " Grouply " . Grouply is tapping Yahoo lists and > > reposting the messages to Grouply members. As soon as ONE list member > > joins this service, all of our messages will then be archived by > > Grouply. Grouply changes your email address to (yourname)@grouply. com. > > for the purpose of your Yahoo list mail only. They will also go into > > your Yahoo account and change all of your preferences regarding how > > you view your mail, whether you get individual posts or digests, and > > whether you can be directly added to any of a million other Yahoo groups. > > > > In order to do this, Grouply requires that you give them your Yahoo ID > > and password. I am truly hoping that most of our members are smart > > enough not to hand over that information to ANYONE--especially to > > another web service! There is no guarantee that this information that > > Grouply is aggregating is secure, thus leaving your sign-in info > > available to spammers and hackers--including all of our list files and > > photos. > > > > At this point, there is no way for us to block Grouply's access to our > > list (although that is being worked on). Until there is, I will be > > checking daily for list members who may have innocently joined > > Grouply. I will be unsubbing and banning them, plus making direct > > contact with them explaining why we will not allow this in our > > membership. They will be welcome to rejoin once they unsub from Grouply. > > Beware. Don't respond to this invitation. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Thank you I read information briefly on the Grouply, I am the owner and I am not joining Grouply. I did not feel comfortable with the information I read. Yahoo is copyrighted and I will see what I can find out, but I not joining and they can not take over the group. I will see what I can find out about archives, but I believe they will in violation of Yahoo's copyright if they attempt access in that manor. Thank you sincerely, Bev Weakley Owner > > Listowners, please look into Grouply, and the rumors that if a Yahoo group member is also a member of Grouply, then all of the archives of any yahoo group they belong to are then accessible to members of Grouply. > > See below: > > This on Snopes: > > > There are a few new services coming online which are social > > " networking " sites similar to My Space and Facebook. One of these new > > services is called " Grouply " . Grouply is tapping Yahoo lists and > > reposting the messages to Grouply members. As soon as ONE list member > > joins this service, all of our messages will then be archived by > > Grouply. Grouply changes your email address to (yourname)@grouply. com. > > for the purpose of your Yahoo list mail only. They will also go into > > your Yahoo account and change all of your preferences regarding how > > you view your mail, whether you get individual posts or digests, and > > whether you can be directly added to any of a million other Yahoo groups. > > > > In order to do this, Grouply requires that you give them your Yahoo ID > > and password. I am truly hoping that most of our members are smart > > enough not to hand over that information to ANYONE--especially to > > another web service! There is no guarantee that this information that > > Grouply is aggregating is secure, thus leaving your sign-in info > > available to spammers and hackers--including all of our list files and > > photos. > > > > At this point, there is no way for us to block Grouply's access to our > > list (although that is being worked on). Until there is, I will be > > checking daily for list members who may have innocently joined > > Grouply. I will be unsubbing and banning them, plus making direct > > contact with them explaining why we will not allow this in our > > membership. They will be welcome to rejoin once they unsub from Grouply. > > Beware. Don't respond to this invitation. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Thank you I read information briefly on the Grouply, I am the owner and I am not joining Grouply. I did not feel comfortable with the information I read. Yahoo is copyrighted and I will see what I can find out, but I not joining and they can not take over the group. I will see what I can find out about archives, but I believe they will in violation of Yahoo's copyright if they attempt access in that manor. Thank you sincerely, Bev Weakley Owner > > Listowners, please look into Grouply, and the rumors that if a Yahoo group member is also a member of Grouply, then all of the archives of any yahoo group they belong to are then accessible to members of Grouply. > > See below: > > This on Snopes: > > > There are a few new services coming online which are social > > " networking " sites similar to My Space and Facebook. One of these new > > services is called " Grouply " . Grouply is tapping Yahoo lists and > > reposting the messages to Grouply members. As soon as ONE list member > > joins this service, all of our messages will then be archived by > > Grouply. Grouply changes your email address to (yourname)@grouply. com. > > for the purpose of your Yahoo list mail only. They will also go into > > your Yahoo account and change all of your preferences regarding how > > you view your mail, whether you get individual posts or digests, and > > whether you can be directly added to any of a million other Yahoo groups. > > > > In order to do this, Grouply requires that you give them your Yahoo ID > > and password. I am truly hoping that most of our members are smart > > enough not to hand over that information to ANYONE--especially to > > another web service! There is no guarantee that this information that > > Grouply is aggregating is secure, thus leaving your sign-in info > > available to spammers and hackers--including all of our list files and > > photos. > > > > At this point, there is no way for us to block Grouply's access to our > > list (although that is being worked on). Until there is, I will be > > checking daily for list members who may have innocently joined > > Grouply. I will be unsubbing and banning them, plus making direct > > contact with them explaining why we will not allow this in our > > membership. They will be welcome to rejoin once they unsub from Grouply. > > Beware. Don't respond to this invitation. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I still do not understand Grouply! I am not giving anyone any codes. So, if that is the case, we do not have a problem! I really do not see how they could just break into our group! Bev Weakley Owner > > So, from your instructions, the Group Owner would have to JOIN Grouply, give Grouply their access code, and then place their settings to block access to their archives? Giving Grouply access codes to the group, especially under Owner privileges seems a bit, well, frightening, to me as a listowner of another group. Can you explain how this is safe to do? With a group like Grouply who already doesn't seem to mind bending or breaking rules? > > Sara > > Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:09 pm (PDT) > I have attached the instructions from Grouply on how to prevent the > group from being part of the grouply social site. > > I am the owner of a group, and I would like to prevent members from > posting invitations to Grouply. > > Grouply has a feature like " tell a friend " that enables users to > invite their fellow group members to Grouply. Grouply imposes a > number of controls on this feature to prevent abuse: > > Only about 20-40 members of a group can be invited at a time. > A specific email address can be sent just one invitation in 30 days. > A specific group can be invited via a posting to the group just once > in 30 days. > > All invitations include an " unsubscribe " link in the footer so than > any recipient can opt-out of receiving future invites. > In addition, as the group owner, you have the ability to block > invitations from being sent to your group members altogether if you > want. Here's how: > > Go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php, type in your group > name, and click Send Email. > An email containing an Owner Authorization Code (OAC) is sent to > your group's owner address. (All of the owners and moderators of > your group will receive this email, so you should let them know that > you sent it!) Open this email and copy the OAC to your clipboard > using Ctrl-C or the " copy " command. > Return to the Owner Access Controls page. If the page does not > display " Enter Owner Authorization Code for Grouply Access > Controls " , then go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php? > c=1 . > Paste the Owner Authorization Code into the box and click Submit. > You are taken to the " Set Grouply Access Controls for Your Group " > page. > In Step 2, select Invites Disabled and click Save. > > > I do not want my group members to use Grouply to access a group that > I own. What do I do? > > A group owner can block her group from being accessed through > Grouply at any time. Here's a link to the Grouply Owner Controls > page that will enable you to block your group from Grouply: > http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php . > > You do not need to register with Grouply to use Grouply Owner > Controls, and you do not need to submit any personal information. > You can use Grouply Owner Controls whether or not your group is > already in Grouply. The process to block a group is relatively > straighforward and should take only about a minute to complete. Here > are the steps: > > Go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php, type in your group > name, and click Send Email. > An email containing an Owner Authorization Code (OAC) is sent to > your group's owner address. (All of the owners and moderators of > your group will receive this email, so you should let them know that > you sent it!) Open this email and copy the OAC to your clipboard > using Ctrl-C or the " copy " command. > Return to the Owner Access Controls page. If the page does not > display " Enter Owner Authorization Code for Grouply Access > Controls " , then go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php? > c=1 . > Paste the Owner Authorization Code into the box and click Submit. > You are taken to the " Set Grouply Access Controls for Your Group " > page. > In Step 1, select Disabled and click Save. That's it. Your group is > blocked. > To verify that your changes were accepted, repeat step 3 above, and > note that the button is set to Disabled. > After you block your group from Grouply, all current Grouply users > will no longer be able to use Grouply to access this group, and they > will receive an email to this effect. Group members who join Grouply > in the future will not be able to start using Grouply for the group. > Here is an example of what group members will see for a blocked > group on the Update Group Access page in Grouply. > > To enable access to a group you previously blocked, repeat steps 1 > to 4 above, select Enable on the " Set Grouply Access Controls for > Your Group " page and click Save. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I still do not understand Grouply! I am not giving anyone any codes. So, if that is the case, we do not have a problem! I really do not see how they could just break into our group! Bev Weakley Owner > > So, from your instructions, the Group Owner would have to JOIN Grouply, give Grouply their access code, and then place their settings to block access to their archives? Giving Grouply access codes to the group, especially under Owner privileges seems a bit, well, frightening, to me as a listowner of another group. Can you explain how this is safe to do? With a group like Grouply who already doesn't seem to mind bending or breaking rules? > > Sara > > Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:09 pm (PDT) > I have attached the instructions from Grouply on how to prevent the > group from being part of the grouply social site. > > I am the owner of a group, and I would like to prevent members from > posting invitations to Grouply. > > Grouply has a feature like " tell a friend " that enables users to > invite their fellow group members to Grouply. Grouply imposes a > number of controls on this feature to prevent abuse: > > Only about 20-40 members of a group can be invited at a time. > A specific email address can be sent just one invitation in 30 days. > A specific group can be invited via a posting to the group just once > in 30 days. > > All invitations include an " unsubscribe " link in the footer so than > any recipient can opt-out of receiving future invites. > In addition, as the group owner, you have the ability to block > invitations from being sent to your group members altogether if you > want. Here's how: > > Go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php, type in your group > name, and click Send Email. > An email containing an Owner Authorization Code (OAC) is sent to > your group's owner address. (All of the owners and moderators of > your group will receive this email, so you should let them know that > you sent it!) Open this email and copy the OAC to your clipboard > using Ctrl-C or the " copy " command. > Return to the Owner Access Controls page. If the page does not > display " Enter Owner Authorization Code for Grouply Access > Controls " , then go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php? > c=1 . > Paste the Owner Authorization Code into the box and click Submit. > You are taken to the " Set Grouply Access Controls for Your Group " > page. > In Step 2, select Invites Disabled and click Save. > > > I do not want my group members to use Grouply to access a group that > I own. What do I do? > > A group owner can block her group from being accessed through > Grouply at any time. Here's a link to the Grouply Owner Controls > page that will enable you to block your group from Grouply: > http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php . > > You do not need to register with Grouply to use Grouply Owner > Controls, and you do not need to submit any personal information. > You can use Grouply Owner Controls whether or not your group is > already in Grouply. The process to block a group is relatively > straighforward and should take only about a minute to complete. Here > are the steps: > > Go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php, type in your group > name, and click Send Email. > An email containing an Owner Authorization Code (OAC) is sent to > your group's owner address. (All of the owners and moderators of > your group will receive this email, so you should let them know that > you sent it!) Open this email and copy the OAC to your clipboard > using Ctrl-C or the " copy " command. > Return to the Owner Access Controls page. If the page does not > display " Enter Owner Authorization Code for Grouply Access > Controls " , then go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php? > c=1 . > Paste the Owner Authorization Code into the box and click Submit. > You are taken to the " Set Grouply Access Controls for Your Group " > page. > In Step 1, select Disabled and click Save. That's it. Your group is > blocked. > To verify that your changes were accepted, repeat step 3 above, and > note that the button is set to Disabled. > After you block your group from Grouply, all current Grouply users > will no longer be able to use Grouply to access this group, and they > will receive an email to this effect. Group members who join Grouply > in the future will not be able to start using Grouply for the group. > Here is an example of what group members will see for a blocked > group on the Update Group Access page in Grouply. > > To enable access to a group you previously blocked, repeat steps 1 > to 4 above, select Enable on the " Set Grouply Access Controls for > Your Group " page and click Save. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I still do not understand Grouply! I am not giving anyone any codes. So, if that is the case, we do not have a problem! I really do not see how they could just break into our group! Bev Weakley Owner > > So, from your instructions, the Group Owner would have to JOIN Grouply, give Grouply their access code, and then place their settings to block access to their archives? Giving Grouply access codes to the group, especially under Owner privileges seems a bit, well, frightening, to me as a listowner of another group. Can you explain how this is safe to do? With a group like Grouply who already doesn't seem to mind bending or breaking rules? > > Sara > > Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:09 pm (PDT) > I have attached the instructions from Grouply on how to prevent the > group from being part of the grouply social site. > > I am the owner of a group, and I would like to prevent members from > posting invitations to Grouply. > > Grouply has a feature like " tell a friend " that enables users to > invite their fellow group members to Grouply. Grouply imposes a > number of controls on this feature to prevent abuse: > > Only about 20-40 members of a group can be invited at a time. > A specific email address can be sent just one invitation in 30 days. > A specific group can be invited via a posting to the group just once > in 30 days. > > All invitations include an " unsubscribe " link in the footer so than > any recipient can opt-out of receiving future invites. > In addition, as the group owner, you have the ability to block > invitations from being sent to your group members altogether if you > want. Here's how: > > Go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php, type in your group > name, and click Send Email. > An email containing an Owner Authorization Code (OAC) is sent to > your group's owner address. (All of the owners and moderators of > your group will receive this email, so you should let them know that > you sent it!) Open this email and copy the OAC to your clipboard > using Ctrl-C or the " copy " command. > Return to the Owner Access Controls page. If the page does not > display " Enter Owner Authorization Code for Grouply Access > Controls " , then go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php? > c=1 . > Paste the Owner Authorization Code into the box and click Submit. > You are taken to the " Set Grouply Access Controls for Your Group " > page. > In Step 2, select Invites Disabled and click Save. > > > I do not want my group members to use Grouply to access a group that > I own. What do I do? > > A group owner can block her group from being accessed through > Grouply at any time. Here's a link to the Grouply Owner Controls > page that will enable you to block your group from Grouply: > http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php . > > You do not need to register with Grouply to use Grouply Owner > Controls, and you do not need to submit any personal information. > You can use Grouply Owner Controls whether or not your group is > already in Grouply. The process to block a group is relatively > straighforward and should take only about a minute to complete. Here > are the steps: > > Go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php, type in your group > name, and click Send Email. > An email containing an Owner Authorization Code (OAC) is sent to > your group's owner address. (All of the owners and moderators of > your group will receive this email, so you should let them know that > you sent it!) Open this email and copy the OAC to your clipboard > using Ctrl-C or the " copy " command. > Return to the Owner Access Controls page. If the page does not > display " Enter Owner Authorization Code for Grouply Access > Controls " , then go to http://www.grouply.com/owner_controls.php? > c=1 . > Paste the Owner Authorization Code into the box and click Submit. > You are taken to the " Set Grouply Access Controls for Your Group " > page. > In Step 1, select Disabled and click Save. That's it. Your group is > blocked. > To verify that your changes were accepted, repeat step 3 above, and > note that the button is set to Disabled. > After you block your group from Grouply, all current Grouply users > will no longer be able to use Grouply to access this group, and they > will receive an email to this effect. Group members who join Grouply > in the future will not be able to start using Grouply for the group. > Here is an example of what group members will see for a blocked > group on the Update Group Access page in Grouply. > > To enable access to a group you previously blocked, repeat steps 1 > to 4 above, select Enable on the " Set Grouply Access Controls for > Your Group " page and click Save. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 was sent an email asking to join Grouply. They wanted his Yahoo password and cell phone number. Thank goodness he didn't give that info out. Not sure what Grouply is all about, but all my groups have given warnings about it. I never got anything in my mail. Pennie Abby's Mom **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 was sent an email asking to join Grouply. They wanted his Yahoo password and cell phone number. Thank goodness he didn't give that info out. Not sure what Grouply is all about, but all my groups have given warnings about it. I never got anything in my mail. Pennie Abby's Mom **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 I think that those concerned should read the following carefully: http://blog.grouply.com/protect/ We had this huge debate and issue when Grouply was a new thing, on some freecycle groups that I own and moderate. I did NOT have to join grouply in order to tell them that I did NOT want my Freecycle groups to be able to receive invitations from Grouply members. It was hugely discussed on the Freecycle main moderator boards and while there was a lot of speculation and rumors about what exactly grouply does, the facts didn't support what people 'thought' they did. Just because you are a member of grouply does NOT make all your groups archives available to everyone else on grouply. ONLY to the member. I could go on, but the link above will explain it further and hopefully but some fears at ease. That no one that isn't an actual member of this group is going to be able to see anything else on the group or it's archives that any other non member wouldn't be able to see. If archives are for members only then it doesn't matter if they are a grouply member or not, they won't be able to see the archives of the group unless they themselves are members of the group. Hope it helps. Theresa > > They already HAVE access to your group. I started this thread because a > poster, a member of this group, sent an email to the group, asking members > to join Grouply. They had already joined, giving Grouply THEIR access code. > > That means that Grouply now has an access code to this group, from my > understanding of the issue, which gives everyone on Grouply access to the > archives of this discussion group. > > The only " work-around " , again, from my understanding, at this point, is to > remove members who have joined Grouply. Meaning, if you get an email asking > you to join Grouply (it's sent automatically, as was the one from your group > member) you would have to remove that member and ask them to leave Grouply > also and then sign back up with your group under another i.d. > > It doesn't have to be the group owner who gives access codes, it can be ANY > member of the group. > > Hope that makes sense! > > Sara > > I still do not understand Grouply! I am not giving anyone any codes. > So, if that is the case, we do not have a problem! I really do not see > how they could just break into our group! > Bev Weakley > Owner > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 I think that those concerned should read the following carefully: http://blog.grouply.com/protect/ We had this huge debate and issue when Grouply was a new thing, on some freecycle groups that I own and moderate. I did NOT have to join grouply in order to tell them that I did NOT want my Freecycle groups to be able to receive invitations from Grouply members. It was hugely discussed on the Freecycle main moderator boards and while there was a lot of speculation and rumors about what exactly grouply does, the facts didn't support what people 'thought' they did. Just because you are a member of grouply does NOT make all your groups archives available to everyone else on grouply. ONLY to the member. I could go on, but the link above will explain it further and hopefully but some fears at ease. That no one that isn't an actual member of this group is going to be able to see anything else on the group or it's archives that any other non member wouldn't be able to see. If archives are for members only then it doesn't matter if they are a grouply member or not, they won't be able to see the archives of the group unless they themselves are members of the group. Hope it helps. Theresa > > They already HAVE access to your group. I started this thread because a > poster, a member of this group, sent an email to the group, asking members > to join Grouply. They had already joined, giving Grouply THEIR access code. > > That means that Grouply now has an access code to this group, from my > understanding of the issue, which gives everyone on Grouply access to the > archives of this discussion group. > > The only " work-around " , again, from my understanding, at this point, is to > remove members who have joined Grouply. Meaning, if you get an email asking > you to join Grouply (it's sent automatically, as was the one from your group > member) you would have to remove that member and ask them to leave Grouply > also and then sign back up with your group under another i.d. > > It doesn't have to be the group owner who gives access codes, it can be ANY > member of the group. > > Hope that makes sense! > > Sara > > I still do not understand Grouply! I am not giving anyone any codes. > So, if that is the case, we do not have a problem! I really do not see > how they could just break into our group! > Bev Weakley > Owner > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 I think that those concerned should read the following carefully: http://blog.grouply.com/protect/ We had this huge debate and issue when Grouply was a new thing, on some freecycle groups that I own and moderate. I did NOT have to join grouply in order to tell them that I did NOT want my Freecycle groups to be able to receive invitations from Grouply members. It was hugely discussed on the Freecycle main moderator boards and while there was a lot of speculation and rumors about what exactly grouply does, the facts didn't support what people 'thought' they did. Just because you are a member of grouply does NOT make all your groups archives available to everyone else on grouply. ONLY to the member. I could go on, but the link above will explain it further and hopefully but some fears at ease. That no one that isn't an actual member of this group is going to be able to see anything else on the group or it's archives that any other non member wouldn't be able to see. If archives are for members only then it doesn't matter if they are a grouply member or not, they won't be able to see the archives of the group unless they themselves are members of the group. Hope it helps. Theresa > > They already HAVE access to your group. I started this thread because a > poster, a member of this group, sent an email to the group, asking members > to join Grouply. They had already joined, giving Grouply THEIR access code. > > That means that Grouply now has an access code to this group, from my > understanding of the issue, which gives everyone on Grouply access to the > archives of this discussion group. > > The only " work-around " , again, from my understanding, at this point, is to > remove members who have joined Grouply. Meaning, if you get an email asking > you to join Grouply (it's sent automatically, as was the one from your group > member) you would have to remove that member and ask them to leave Grouply > also and then sign back up with your group under another i.d. > > It doesn't have to be the group owner who gives access codes, it can be ANY > member of the group. > > Hope that makes sense! > > Sara > > I still do not understand Grouply! I am not giving anyone any codes. > So, if that is the case, we do not have a problem! I really do not see > how they could just break into our group! > Bev Weakley > Owner > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Grouply PoWeRTX@... I am copying Mark in on this - he is the owner of Grouply. Mark - can you help . Thanks Andy 2008/10/2 <PoWeRTX@...>: > Andy > > What can I do to have you guys stop spamming my list? People > are complaining and it makes my job miserable. > > Regards, > > Vergel > powerusa.org > > In a message dated 10/1/2008 9:15:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > andyswarbs@... writes: > > /message/26722 > > Hi, I run the Grouply-Users-Group and although I do not belong to your > group I run a google alert for grouply and spotted the above message > and thought I would pass on my comments to you, which you can share > with your group, or not as you wish. > > Grouply is an alternative way of viewing . In many ways > it is an email client but specialised in that it focuses only on > Groups. In other ways it is a social networking layer to > Groups. For me, however it is a power tool for me to keep abreast of > the 100+ groups I belong to, and do that efficiently. > > To answer one of the points raised, Grouply is a startup based in > Silicon Valley and is a legitimate US company. Regarding the spam > comment. Some people have interpreted invitations to use Grouply as > spam, others have not. However it it definitely is a way that Grouply > is trying to get new users of its service. > > Finally as a group owner you can ensure that invites do not come to > your group. This may appeal if you agree with your member. If you > look at the grouply blog then I am sure you will be able to sort this > for yourself. > > Regards > > Andy Swarbrick > > To counter the spam concerns, > > > > ________________________________ > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? > Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Thanks ! - Didn't know that could be done. EVERY group i've been in where the grouply issue came up, it's been a problem, & the sense i get is that it's some kind of scam, although my only experience with it was that it seemed to have the earmarks of something to stay away from. Indeed, everyone who supposedly " chose " to send invites (according to what you got from this company) when responding to complaints about it said he didn't do it or didn't know it was being done for him! Now ain't that a coincidence? If it walks like a spam & oinks like a spam & looks like a spam..... ;~) And while i personally haven't wanted to have anything to do with these guys, from everything i've read & seen, if the guy in Poz Health who said they require your password is correct, then it's clearly a scam, since nobody needs that, if they're legit. (And it also suggests they're more than just spammers, since even spammers don't need passwords.) Hell, the whole purpose of a password is to prevent others from accessing your account! Ah well, under the current regime in Washington, i guess people have gotten the idea that being sneaky & greedy & irresponsible is great business & part of our family values. And while i don't have time to check it out myself now, i seem to remember the FBI website has a way to file a complaint about a on-line activity which seems to be overreaching. Perhaps that's something anyone on the list who has been hounded by this company can check out. And if the company is in Silicon Valley, Calif. has some decent consumer-protection laws, & the state Attorney General's office has had (at least in the past) a unit for prosecuting such cases. In any event, if anyone feels these guys are misusing private info or doing things which might come under consumer-protection laws, the AG's office is certainly a good alternative. Thanks again. PoWeRTX@... > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > Re: Grouply > PoWeRTX@... > > I am copying Mark in on this - he is the owner of Grouply. > > Mark - can you help . > > Thanks > > Andy > > 2008/10/2 <PoWeRTX@...>: >> Andy >> >> What can I do to have you guys stop spamming my list? People >> are complaining and it makes my job miserable. >> >> Regards, >> >> Vergel >> powerusa.org >> >> In a message dated 10/1/2008 9:15:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> andyswarbs@... writes: >> >> /message/26722 >> >> Hi, I run the Grouply-Users-Group and although I do not belong to your >> group I run a google alert for grouply and spotted the above message >> and thought I would pass on my comments to you, which you can share >> with your group, or not as you wish. >> >> Grouply is an alternative way of viewing . >> >> To answer one of the points raised, Grouply is a startup based in >> Silicon Valley and is a legitimate US company. Regarding the spam >> comment. Some people have interpreted invitations to use Grouply as >> spam, others have not. However it it definitely is a way that Grouply >> is trying to get new users of its service. >> >> Finally as a group owner you can ensure that invites do not come to >> your group. This may appeal if you agree with your member. If you >> look at the grouply blog then I am sure you will be able to sort this >> for yourself. >> >> Regards >> >> Andy Swarbrick >> >> To counter the spam concerns, >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Joanne, I believe there were some suspicions about Grouply possibly misusing people's login ID's, as you have to give them your login information for other sites in order to use it. In any case the problem that bothers some people, and what makes it different from and other services you mentioned, is apparently the fact that it's a third party application asking for one's private information that is used to log onto another service. Several groups I belong to have banned it, but whether there is any truth in the suspicions, I don't know. Probably not, since it still exists, but it's still good to remember that by using it one gives away one's private login info, which basically isn't a good thing (if I've understood correctly the way Grouply works, and please correct me someone if I haven't!). Jaana Helsinki, Finland jjcathcart kirjoitti 20.10.2008 6:17: > Kay. Someone did post about having pages there. So, I looked it up to see what Grouply was all about and wondered if anyone else had heard of it. Second, I am the Moderator nand past owner, of this group .so I am wondering why it is you felt the need to tell me that no one with that address can be a member. Third, why wouldn't anyone with that addy be allowed to be a member???????????What is the difference between Grouply and Verizon, AOL, or ? Joanne PBC Post Tx, PBC member since 1997, and Moderator of LiverSupport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Joanne, I was referencing Linie's post in the PBCers Digest. When I wrote about the PBCers Group, I was quoting Linie directly. Whether by that she is referring only to the PBC Digest or not, I don't know. I was just trying to caution those who, like me, subscribe to both your group and the PBC group. Linie's post is below. Kay, TX - AIH/PBC I received this from another listowner who has had major problems with Grouply. Because of the major problems this could cause, the PBCers Group will NOT allow members with Grouply addresses. Thanks and have a safe holiday. Linie Here's what the Snopes site says:Old 13 February 2008, 02:44 AM snopes's Avatarsnopes Date: 18 February 2000 Location: California Posts: 59,489 Computer Grouply is stealing info Comment: here is what I got:There are a few new services coming online which are social " networking " sites similar to My Space and Facebook. One of these newservices is called " Grouply " . Grouply is tapping lists and reposting the messages to Grouply members. As soon as ONE list member joins this service, all of our messages will then be archived by Grouply. Grouply changes your email address to (yourname)@grouply.com for the purpose of your list mail only. They will also go into your account and change all of your preferences regarding how you view your mail, whether you get individual posts or digests, and whether you can be directly added to any of a million other groups. In order to do this, Grouply requires that you give them your ID and password. I am truly hoping that most of our members are smart enough not to hand over that information to ANYONE--especially to another web service! There is no guarantee that this information that Grouply is aggregating is secure, thus leaving your sign-in info available to spammers and hackers--including all of our list files and photos. At this point, there is no way for us to block Grouply's access to our list (although that is being worked on). Until there is, I will be checking daily for list members who may have innocently joined Grouply. I will be unsubbing and banning them, plus making direct contact with them explaining why we will not allow this in our membership. They will be welcome to rejoin once they unsub from Grouply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Thanks, Kim. I didn't know about Grouply and will be sure to steer clear of it. Thea From: Kim Leach Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 2:45 PM Stimulator Subject: Re: Grouply Sorry if I was not clear. You as a mod do not have to " approve " anything. When a Stimulator group member either signs up or clicks too much over at Grouply, then the program attaches itself to their computer and it starts sending out emails to all that person's contacts. That includes all the members of any group that they might be a part of. This is where the spamming and viral part comes from. Yes it is probably true that the member may not know that they are being used by this program to entice others to join the group and then spread this mess to even more people. We had issues with this in the past in this group and Mike had to threaten to remove anyone from the group who signed up with Grouply because as members we were getting a bunch of these invites! I wanted to let you as Mods know that this is happening again. Some stimulator member has signed up with Grouply probaby not knowing ( however I don't understand how that could be as we have posted several warnings here in the group) and that folks are being spammed again. I also wanted to warn anyone that got an invite to NOT click the link or go to the page it offers or you could be the next victim of this mess. I hope this clears up the confusion. From: Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:16 PM Stimulator Subject: Grouply Hi Kim, I know I haven't approved any of these emails from the Grouply people. I know that a lot of these things come from bogus emails addresses to start with. I'm pretty sure that most of the other mods wouldn't have done it either. I've gotten emails before from " friends " who never knew their email address was being used as a marketing ploy. I even got a couple of emails from friends who were " alleged " to be sending out invites to their gay & lesbian sites when I know they aren't that way inclined. I know this doesn't help your frustration. But someone maybe using the SCS's email address for sending spam. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I'm only a moderator Kim, not an owner. I think that is something that would be as you say up to Mike. Sorry I can't help you further. I'm sure if Mike or Sue were well enough to be on, they probably would have dealt with it by now. I haven't seen anything from either of them for quite a few months now. Hopefully it stops very shortly and no one else gets tricked into clicking on them. Sorry I can't be of further assistance. Warm Cheers > > Sorry if I was not clear. You as a mod do not have to " approve " anything. When a Stimulator group member either signs up or clicks too much over at Grouply, then the program attaches itself to their computer and it starts sending out emails to all that person's contacts. That includes all the members of any group that they might be a part of. This is where the spamming and viral part comes from. Yes it is probably true that the member may not know that they are being used by this program to entice others to join the group and then spread this mess to even more people. We had issues with this in the past in this group and Mike had to threaten to remove anyone from the group who signed up with Grouply because as members we were getting a bunch of these invites! > I wanted to let you as Mods know that this is happening again. Some stimulator member has signed up with Grouply probaby not knowing ( however I don't understand how that could be as we have posted several warnings here in the group) and that folks are being spammed again. > I also wanted to warn anyone that got an invite to NOT click the link or go to the page it offers or you could be the next victim of this mess. > I hope this clears up the confusion. > > > From: > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:16 PM > Stimulator > Subject: Grouply > > > > Hi Kim, > > I know I haven't approved any of these emails from the Grouply people. > I know that a lot of these things come from bogus emails addresses to start with. > > I'm pretty sure that most of the other mods wouldn't have done it either. > > I've gotten emails before from " friends " who never knew their email address was being used as a marketing ploy. I even got a couple of emails from friends who were " alleged " to be sending out invites to their gay & lesbian sites when I know they aren't that way inclined. > > I know this doesn't help your frustration. But someone maybe using the SCS's email address for sending spam. > > Cheers > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Found this: " Grouply is not part of - it is a separate company. The reason some members distrust it, is that in order to join Grouply you must hand over your ID & password. " FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Is there someone involved with this group named Antonietta? That is who keeps sending me this invitation. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> wrote: > > > Found this: > " Grouply is not part of - it is a separate company. The reason some > members distrust it, is that in order to join Grouply you must hand > over your ID & password. " > > FYI, > Lottie Duthu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I am sure that Antonietta has nothing to do with sending the invitations. They are automated postings, probably to everyone in the members' address books... they do get your password when you join. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Rosen Lum <rrosenlum@...>wrote: > Is there someone involved with this group named Antonietta? That is who > keeps sending me this invitation. > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Found this: > > " Grouply is not part of - it is a separate company. The reason some > > members distrust it, is that in order to join Grouply you must hand > > over your ID & password. " > > > > FYI, > > Lottie Duthu > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I get her too Sharon Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: [ ] Grouply Is there someone involved with this group named Antonietta? That is who keeps sending me this invitation. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> wrote: > > > Found this: > " Grouply is not part of - it is a separate company. The reason some > members distrust it, is that in order to join Grouply you must hand > over your ID & password. " > > FYI, > Lottie Duthu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Good point! Thanks. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Troxel <richard.troxel@...>wrote: > > > I am sure that Antonietta has nothing to do with sending the invitations. > They are automated postings, probably to everyone in the members' > address books... they do get your password when you join. > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Rosen Lum <rrosenlum@...<rrosenlum%40gmail.com> > >wrote: > > > > Is there someone involved with this group named Antonietta? That is who > > keeps sending me this invitation. > > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...<lotajam%40comcast.net>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Found this: > > > " Grouply is not part of - it is a separate company. The reason > some > > > members distrust it, is that in order to join Grouply you must > hand > > > over your ID & password. " > > > > > > FYI, > > > Lottie Duthu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I would just stay away from Grouply. I got a invite awhile back, and I cannot remember all the details, but as people are mentioning that they want your ID and Password I feel you need to just ignore it. From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> Subject: [ ] Grouply " CML " < > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 3:33 AM  Found this: " Grouply is not part of - it is a separate company. The reason some members distrust it, is that in order to join Grouply you must hand over your ID & password. " FYI, Lottie Duthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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