Juicer

[Guest guest]

Robin, I had trouble with my Champion juicer and they refused to fix it for

free within one year. I switched to Juiceman Jr (about 75% cheaper) and have

been happy ever since. Regards, Mal

[Guest guest]

We have the Omega here, works very well.

Bob

[Guest guest]

I dont have one, but i have been told by a few people that Champion juicers

are the best for the money.

rheumatic Juicer

> This must be my day for questions. I am in the market for a juicer.

> Would you guys please give me input on which ones you recommend? Many

> thanks!

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[Guest guest]

I've been juicing for over five yrs, and originally (on the advise of my

expeienced nephew) purchase Juiceman Jr. (about $100, give or take). There

are two types, and I don't recommend the one with the ON/OFF red button only,

(it IS less expensive) but the other with little circles to control power. It

served me well (used about 5 times weekly) for those five yrs, and a few mths

ago, it started clogging when separating juice from pulp, so purchased a new

one, same kind. I DO feel that for the price and the use it's a wise

purchase, however, now I know a couple of people who have the the Champion,

and they just LOVE it. Also, in Harvey Diamond's new book, " Fit for Life,

2000 " , he highly recommends the Champion juicer. Too bad I didn't find all

this out four months ago! Anyway, happy juicing. I'm hooked!!

Judy (Keels)

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Try the local Wall(aby) Mart. Best, JR

[Guest guest]

When it comes to juicers I think you get what you pay for. I may have a link to

the 4 main types of juicers somewhere that has some good descriptions. Walmart

had a couple cheapo juicers on sale recently.

http://fantes.com/juicers.htm

" There are a number of different type juicers. Some masticate, some grate, some

pulverize all types of foods, and the most popular squeeze citrus.

Masticating juicers, like the Champion, chew fibers and break up the cells of

vegetables and fruits. Generally, these give you more fiber, enzymes, vitamins

and trace minerals, evident in the darker, richer color of the juice, and the

sweeter, richer, fuller-bodied flavor. They have a toothed shaft that spins to

masticate.

Grating juicers, like the Waring, L'Equip and KitchenAid, work in the same

manner as masticating juicers, with similar results. They are only slightly less

efficient at breaking up the fibers. They have a heavy metal toothed disc that

spins to grate.

Pulverizing juicers, like the VitaMix, are very powerful blenders that break up

and contain everything put into them. The juices are heavier, thicker, and

contain the fiber of the entire fruit. You may need to add water in order to

drink these juices.

Squeezing juicers press juice out of citrus fruits. The size of the cone may

determine whether both the smallest lime and the largest grapefruit will fit

properly, to get the most juice. Electrics work faster, of course. "

Darrell

[Guest guest]

I got the green star. Definitely high end, but it is solidly made and works

great. It uses two gears which crush the juice and then separate more

minerals etc, by using a magnetic current. I don't really understand it but

it came highly recommended. About $400.00 though. If you are going to

spend somewhere near that much I would check it out as well as the

hippocrates, Sampson and a few others that work on a similar principle.

rich

Juicer

> Hello everyone,

>

> I need some help. Has anyone in here bought a juicer? If yes,

> which ones, Please?

>

> I am a bit lost with all the option that is up to us. Should we buy

> one that makes juice only without pulp or the one that gives up the

> choices?

>

> I have checked from Dr. Mercola site and it recommends Omega 9000

> juicer. It looks okay to me even if a bit expensive, but I will buy

> it if it is the one I should have though.

>

> I would like to know if anyone is satisfy with it or if I should

> look for another one that would be less costly and more efficient if

> possible.

>

> Thank you for your comments,

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I need some help. Has anyone in here bought a juicer? If yes,

> which ones, Please?

I like the twin gear juices, although they are the most expensive.

I have had a green power juicer for many years.

I've never regretted investing as much as I did in it.

My next choice would be the single gear types.

The sampson might be one of the better ones of these.

The cheapest types are the centrifugal ones with the spinning basket.

They extract less juice and less nutrients than the other types.

The pulp left over has more water too and you are limited to the kinds of things

you can juice. You cant juice any herbs or soft fruits.

> There are lists of a number of types of juicers, tips, and comparisons

(usually biased) here:

> http://4juicers.com/compare2.html

> http://www.greenstar.com/differences.asp

> http://www.vitalityplus1.com/juicers/guides/comparison.php

> http://www.2-life.com/juicer_reviews.htm

> http://www.mercola.com/article/juicer_comp.htm

> http://www.nwjcal.com/Norwalk_Juicer_Comparison.html

> http://www.healthierbychoice.com/juicers2.htm

> http://www.ukjuicers.com/templates/juicercomp.asp

> http://www.bestcare-uk.com/typeofjuicer.html

> http://www.allorganic.net/home.html

> http://curezone.com/foods/juices.asp

>

>

> Regards, Bruce

>

>

[Guest guest]

Juicer

> Hello everyone,

>

> I need some help. Has anyone in here bought a juicer? If yes,

> which ones, Please?

I own both a champion juicer and a vitamix. The champion

makes nice clear juice, but at my age, I can use all the fiber I can

get -- so I bought the vitamix. The champion is the best for carrot

juice or when I want a thin watery juice, but where the pulpiness is

not a problem, I prefer the vitamix.

Alobar

[Guest guest]

I used to have a Vita Mix. It never did anything very well. It wasn't

an effective blender, because of the shape of the cannister, it didn't

really make juice as I hoped, just a fibrous mush, and the little

valve on the side (do they still make it that way?) didn't actually

serve as a spigot, as it always got clogged by the pulp mixed in the

juice.

I'm not even sure what happened to it. I know I don't have it now, but

I didn't miss it until a few years ago when it occurred to me that it

might be useful for making paper...

I own an old acme juicer that I use occasionally for a variety of

kitchen tasks.

> Hi Diane,

>

> I don't have a juicer - I have a Vita Mix. The reason I purchased it is

> because it gives you " total juice " which means there's none of the

> good-for-you pulp to throw away. I'm sure there's pros and cons for

each

> type - for instance a juicer will give clear juice that is available

in your

> system quicker because it doesn't have to be digested. But the Vita

Mix, in

> my opinion, is better for you because you eat the pulp, which you

need for

> fiber. I can even use the core of a pineapple, skins (if organic),

seeds,

> pretty much everything, and it will liquefy everything. It replaces

all my

> other counter appliances - it does everything - I've made soup in it,

> sorbet, grated cheese, grated cabbage. I guess the only things it

won't do

> are slice stuff or mash potatoes. I highly recommend it.

>

> Carol

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> From: " diane25d " <diane.25@s...>

> Subject: Juicer

> Hello everyone,

> I need some help. Has anyone in here bought a juicer? If yes,

which ones,

> Please?

> Diane

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much for all your answers about the juicer.

It seems that we never know what is best. The Omega Juicer is

recommended by Dr. Mercola. Still, it seems that the other Omega juicer

8000 something is better because stronger and slower. Now, I need one

soon mine is almost at the end of this rope.

I want something easy, I have the other kitchen tools as Cuisinart and

Braun, coffee grinder and maker. I tend to buy everything one by one. I

am not sure I want all the pulp in my juice because then I would not be

able to drink as much thus getting less vitamins.

There is such a small difference in price and the Omega 9000 and the

other one? I will try to find a store where I could really see them.

When you buy on the net, it is only a picture and no one there to show

you how hard or hard easy it is to clean and how good, of course, it is

for your health.

Diane

Juicer

> Hello everyone,

> I need some help. Has anyone in here bought a juicer? If yes,

which ones,

> Please?

> Diane

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:44:45 -0000

" " <akrep@...> wrote:

> I used to have a Vita Mix. It never did anything very well.

Really? I LOVE my Vitamix.

It wasn't

> an effective blender, because of the shape of the cannister,

I don't quite understand. It is the best blender I have ever had.

it didn't

> really make juice as I hoped, just a fibrous mush,

I never had a problem. You just mix the mush with water if you want

whole juice. Otherwise a juicer serves the purpose better.

and the little

> valve on the side (do they still make it that way?) didn't actually

> serve as a spigot, as it always got clogged by the pulp mixed in the

> juice.

You must have a very old one. I have never seen one with a spigot on the

side and I have had mine for a number of years.

> I'm not even sure what happened to it. I know I don't have it now, but

> I didn't miss it until a few years ago when it occurred to me that it

> might be useful for making paper...

>

> I own an old acme juicer that I use occasionally for a variety of

> kitchen tasks.

For juicing and from a health standpoint, Acme is one of the worst

juicers available.

Kick the Habit: Don't Vote!

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Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small.

" They told just the same,

That just because a tyrant has the might

By force of arms to murder men downright

And burn down house and home and leave all flat

They call the man a captain, just for that.

But since an outlaw with his little band

Cannot bring half such mischief on the land

Or be the cause of so much harm and grief,

He only earns the title of a thief. "

--Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:03:15 -0400

" Carol Minnick " <carolminnick@...> wrote:

> Hi Diane,

>

> I don't have a juicer - I have a Vita Mix. The reason I purchased it is

> because it gives you " total juice " which means there's none of the

> good-for-you pulp to throw away. I'm sure there's pros and cons for each

> type - for instance a juicer will give clear juice that is available in your

> system quicker because it doesn't have to be digested. But the Vita Mix, in

> my opinion, is better for you because you eat the pulp, which you need for

> fiber. I can even use the core of a pineapple, skins (if organic), seeds,

> pretty much everything, and it will liquefy everything. It replaces all my

> other counter appliances - it does everything - I've made soup in it,

> sorbet, grated cheese, grated cabbage. I guess the only things it won't do

> are slice stuff or mash potatoes. I highly recommend it.

>

> Carol

Actually, despite the rhetoric of companies that sell juicers, juicing

normally leaves much more than the fiber behind, but also a bevy of

nutrients. If one is juice fasting then a juicer might be called for.

But in my opinion, short of liquid fasting a VitaMix is to be preferred.

Some have argued that the oxidation is a problem with the Vitamix as it

is with many inexpensive juicers. IMO, the way to overcome that problem

is to throw some really raw honey in your Vitamix with the fruit or

veggies, or perhaps even EM.

Kick the Habit: Don't Vote!

http://tinyurl.com/439vl

Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small.

" They told just the same,

That just because a tyrant has the might

By force of arms to murder men downright

And burn down house and home and leave all flat

They call the man a captain, just for that.

But since an outlaw with his little band

Cannot bring half such mischief on the land

Or be the cause of so much harm and grief,

He only earns the title of a thief. "

--Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:45:00 -0000

" diane25d " <diane.25@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone,

>

> I need some help. Has anyone in here bought a juicer? If yes,

> which ones, Please?

>

> I am a bit lost with all the option that is up to us. Should we buy

> one that makes juice only without pulp or the one that gives up the

> choices?

>

> I have checked from Dr. Mercola site and it recommends Omega 9000

> juicer. It looks okay to me even if a bit expensive, but I will buy

> it if it is the one I should have though.

>

> I would like to know if anyone is satisfy with it or if I should

> look for another one that would be less costly and more efficient if

> possible.

>

> Thank you for your comments,

>

> Diane

Hi Diane,

Apparently the twin gear juicers are the best in terms of producing

quality juice. You might want to check out this site:

http://www.rawpaleodiet.org/juicing-basic-1.html

Kick the Habit: Don't Vote!

http://tinyurl.com/439vl

Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small.

" They told just the same,

That just because a tyrant has the might

By force of arms to murder men downright

And burn down house and home and leave all flat

They call the man a captain, just for that.

But since an outlaw with his little band

Cannot bring half such mischief on the land

Or be the cause of so much harm and grief,

He only earns the title of a thief. "

--Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale

[Guest guest]

The issue is not the vitamins, enzymes etc., in the juice, but the ability

of the body to absorb them. many are certainly left behind in the pulp, but

how much does the body absorb from the juice and how much from the vitamix

juice. That is the real question.

rich

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>

> Diane,

>

> Do you think there are no vitamins in the pulp you would be throwing

away??

> Carotene, for instance - in Vita Mix carrot juice, you would be getting

> 23,800 IU of carotene. Extracted carrot juice gives you 14,000 IU, so

> you're throwing away 9,800 IU of carotene that's in the pulp.

>

> Carol

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Visit my website for health articles:

> http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, we are throwing some away with the pulp. It is just that you can

drink 3 glasses of juice, but you cannot with the pulp, it would be just

like eating those carrots and more than 3 carrots is hard to eat. Why

juice it, if you are going to eat it anyway. The quantities are

different.

I know that I have more vitamins by juicing than by eating only carrots.

By carrots, I mean veggies, anyone. I still eat my regular raw whole

veggies too.

Diane

I

Re: juicer

The issue is not the vitamins, enzymes etc., in the juice, but the

ability

of the body to absorb them. many are certainly left behind in the pulp,

but

how much does the body absorb from the juice and how much from the

vitamix

juice. That is the real question.

rich

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>

> Diane,

>

> Do you think there are no vitamins in the pulp you would be throwing

away??

> Carotene, for instance - in Vita Mix carrot juice, you would be

getting

> 23,800 IU of carotene. Extracted carrot juice gives you 14,000 IU, so

> you're throwing away 9,800 IU of carotene that's in the pulp.

>

> Carol

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Visit my website for health articles:

> http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carol,

Why juice it then, if you are going to eat all of it anyway?

I am missing something here?

Diane

RE: Re: juicer

I am not sure I want all the pulp in my juice because then I would not

be

able to drink as much thus getting less vitamins.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Diane,

Do you think there are no vitamins in the pulp you would be throwing

away??

Carotene, for instance - in Vita Mix carrot juice, you would be getting

23,800 IU of carotene. Extracted carrot juice gives you 14,000 IU, so

you're throwing away 9,800 IU of carotene that's in the pulp.

Carol

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit my website for health articles:

http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

RE: Re: juicer

> I am not sure I want all the pulp in my juice because then I would

not be

> able to drink as much thus getting less vitamins.

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>

> Diane,

>

> Do you think there are no vitamins in the pulp you would be

throwing away??

> Carotene, for instance - in Vita Mix carrot juice, you would be

getting

> 23,800 IU of carotene. Extracted carrot juice gives you 14,000 IU,

so

> you're throwing away 9,800 IU of carotene that's in the pulp.

>

> Carol

I remember reading about the nutrients in strawberry seeds

which humans could not use because we cannot break open the tough

little seeds with our teeth or digestive juices. The vitamix breaks

open these tiny seeds so humans can digest them.

Alobar

[Guest guest]

RE: juicer

> Yes, we are throwing some away with the pulp. It is just that you

can

> drink 3 glasses of juice, but you cannot with the pulp, it would be

just

> like eating those carrots and more than 3 carrots is hard to eat.

Why

> juice it, if you are going to eat it anyway.

Even when I was young and my teeth were in good shape, my jaw

ached as I ate carrot #2. Carrot #3 would have been a real ordeal.

Now that my teeth are not in good shape, it would be very difficult

for me to eat even one raw carrot.

There is also the speed at which the sugars hit the system.

Carrot juice with no pulp really spikes my blood sugar levels. If I

slurp vitamix carrot + water smoothie, my blood sugar does not spike

nearly as much because the fiber slows down absorption. Of course

the clear carrot juice is far more yummy because it does give that

sugar rush. However I know that not everything which tastes better

is better for me. So sometimes I need to choose what I eat with my

mind & not just my tastebuds.

Alobar

[Guest guest]

Alobar,

Yes I believe carrot juice by itself must give a sugar rush. As long

as I use it with other veggies, it gives it a nice taste and allows me

to mix them to get a whole variety of veggies and tastes. Plus often I

put ground flaxseed in my home made juice.

Diane

Re: juicer

RE: juicer

> Yes, we are throwing some away with the pulp. It is just that you

can

> drink 3 glasses of juice, but you cannot with the pulp, it would be

just

> like eating those carrots and more than 3 carrots is hard to eat.

Why

> juice it, if you are going to eat it anyway.

Even when I was young and my teeth were in good shape, my jaw

ached as I ate carrot #2. Carrot #3 would have been a real ordeal.

Now that my teeth are not in good shape, it would be very difficult

for me to eat even one raw carrot.

There is also the speed at which the sugars hit the system.

Carrot juice with no pulp really spikes my blood sugar levels. If I

slurp vitamix carrot + water smoothie, my blood sugar does not spike

nearly as much because the fiber slows down absorption. Of course

the clear carrot juice is far more yummy because it does give that

sugar rush. However I know that not everything which tastes better

is better for me. So sometimes I need to choose what I eat with my

mind & not just my tastebuds.

Alobar

[Guest guest]

>

> It wasn't

> > an effective blender, because of the shape of the cannister,

>

> I don't quite understand. It is the best blender I have ever had.

Because of the shape of the cannister, it did not churn its contents

like a blender will, even it was rather full. So I needed to own a

blender anyway.

>

> it didn't

> > really make juice as I hoped, just a fibrous mush,

>

> I never had a problem. You just mix the mush with water if you want

> whole juice.

I don't consider that juice.

>

> > I own an old acme juicer that I use occasionally for a variety of

> > kitchen tasks.

>

> For juicing and from a health standpoint, Acme is one of the worst

> juicers available.

>

Why do you say that? The Acme has always made excellent juice for me,

though it is not a high-capacity juicer. You seem to be implying that

the Acme juicer does something that degrades the nutrition content of

what you put through it. Or are you defining " juice " as something that

*should* contain all the fiber and seeds of the fresh fruit or

vegetable you put in it? Again, I use the common definition for juice,

not the Vita Mix definition.

Soft fruits can be put through the blender to make a smoothie, but

there's nothing you can do to pulverize a carrot that I would find

appetizing enough to " drink " .

[Guest guest]

No, if you want something that you or I consider juice, you'd be best

off removing the pulp and fiber. It enables you to consume more of the

vegetable in total, while increasing the pleasure in the consumption

dramatically.

I limit my intake of tough raw vegetables (like carrots or broccoli)

to one or two servings a day for digestive purposes. Juice is fine.

If you are concerned about wasting material that still has nutritive

value, you can compost it or get a pig.

> Carol,

>

> Why juice it then, if you are going to eat all of it anyway?

>

> I am missing something here?

>

> Diane

>

> RE: Re: juicer

> I am not sure I want all the pulp in my juice because then I would not

> be

> able to drink as much thus getting less vitamins.

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>

> Diane,

>

> Do you think there are no vitamins in the pulp you would be throwing

> away??

> Carotene, for instance - in Vita Mix carrot juice, you would be getting

> 23,800 IU of carotene. Extracted carrot juice gives you 14,000 IU, so

> you're throwing away 9,800 IU of carotene that's in the pulp.

>

> Carol

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Visit my website for health articles:

> http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Yes, we are throwing some away with the pulp. It is just that you can

> drink 3 glasses of juice, but you cannot with the pulp, it would be just

> like eating those carrots and more than 3 carrots is hard to eat. Why

> juice it, if you are going to eat it anyway. The quantities are

> different.

>

> I know that I have more vitamins by juicing than by eating only carrots.

> By carrots, I mean veggies, anyone. I still eat my regular raw whole

> veggies too.

>

> Diane

>

The nutrition that you throw away in the pulp is basically unavailable

to you, due to the cellulose content. We are not herbivores. Cooking

can break down the cellulose, just as juicing removes it, so in both

cases you are able to consume more and digest it better.

[Guest guest]

Thanks , this is the main idea. By juicing, my increase my

intake of vitamins as long as I eat my veggies raw and cooked every

day. This is extra.

Vitaminix seems to be good for people you cannot eat raw veggies though.

Diane

Re: juicer

> Yes, we are throwing some away with the pulp. It is just that you can

> drink 3 glasses of juice, but you cannot with the pulp, it would be

just

> like eating those carrots and more than 3 carrots is hard to eat. Why

> juice it, if you are going to eat it anyway. The quantities are

> different.

>

> I know that I have more vitamins by juicing than by eating only

carrots.

> By carrots, I mean veggies, anyone. I still eat my regular raw whole

> veggies too.

>

> Diane

>

The nutrition that you throw away in the pulp is basically unavailable

to you, due to the cellulose content. We are not herbivores. Cooking

can break down the cellulose, just as juicing removes it, so in both

cases you are able to consume more and digest it better.