Flu shot

[Guest guest]

True, I had the Rhogam shot. Really you just need that after birth not during

unless there is reason to suspect blood mixing. Its all for the pharma comp to

get some extra cash. I didnt get flu shot when I was pregnant but I think my

friend is getting one. I sent her all info on the shots, and she is spacing

them out which I'm happy she is doing that 4 /5 shots at one time is a lot for a

little baby. I'm not sure on the other mom with fillings/rhogam although I know

a lot of moms with children on the spectrum had rhogam so it makes you think.

New Jersey has a higher ASD pop and that is sure to be due to all there power

plants. They did a study at a school near a power plant and all the teachers had

children with learning disabilities/etc. That cant not be coincidence. I think

that is where all these disorder/disabilities are coming in -- all this junk in

the air/ soil = going in to the food /water. Add all that mercury with the

shots and it gives some kiddos overload.

Re: [ ] Re: flu shot

Marie

I know that the excessive mercury caused by excessive shots( given at birth

and when sick) in addition to excessive antibiotics administered caused delays

in speech, poor motor coordination, lack of social skills and learning problems

that my daughter will have to cope with the rest of her life. I signed for the

shots each and every time. I know what it feels like to blame yourself for

something so preventable. Maybe some people cannot handle that feeling and

therefore the shots can never be blamed because that would implicitly blame the

mother. Something to consider.

This is almost too cruel but the little 9 year old that we carpool with to the

private school that supposedly accomodates kiddos with learning differences and

social deficits, torments my 13 year old daughter in the car. She enjoys

upsetting her just for the hell of it. My 13 year old can't handle a 9 year old.

The little girl's mother works for Merck. Merck was the maker of most of the

mercury containing shots that my daughter received. And here we are today still

dealing with Merk.

Felicia

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

I know that my nephew has vaccine-induced autism from a vaccine which never

contained thimerosal (in his case, the DPT). We convinced enough that it is the

vaccines, at least for many people, that we're trying to save you from feeling

as horrible as you would if you keep signing for more of them...

S S

Re: flu shot

Posted by: " Marie Brewer " marie.brewer@... mariefbrewer

Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:59 am (PST)

Absolutely, I feel the same, I tell my husband that all the time. If it was

the shots I'd feel horrible since I signed for all them. THe question for me is

is it the shots?

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How many mercury amalgam dental fillings does the mom have? Did she have the

flu shot while she was pregnant or breastfeeding? Did she have Rhogam? Mercury

is bio-accumulative, so part of my body burden was from my mother and

grandmother's exposure before I ever had my own vaccines and mercury amalgam

dental fillings. Did she eat fish? Does she live near a coal-fired power

plant? Autism is generally caused by a combination of toxic metals. I'd like

to see a DDI hair test for her unvaccinated child. Arsenic and antimony in

particular are commonly high among individuals with ASD.

S S

Re: flu shot

Posted by: " Marie Brewer " marie.brewer@... mariefbrewer

Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:02 am (PST)

I do have to say I know a mom with a son that has ASD and she had another baby

and didnt vaccinate that child. Ya know what , he was just diagnosed with ASD .

Can you explain that if its the vaccines??

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I really don't know to be honest. As far as I know Rhogam has been mercury free

since I believe 2001 give or take a year. Not sure where my issues lies I maybe

have 1 dental filling, had Rhogam ,not a fish eater although I have days when I

do eat it (a few times a year at most). Also dont live near any plants. Does

rust do anything? The only thing that was different at our house was our water

heater went. It was all rusted. Not sure if that seeped into the water before we

realize. I do know where I live the lead level in the water was out of normal

range, I got a letter from the water comp a couple months ago. I dont know if it

was when my second son was small, they probably would have the info available at

the water company, no? WHat is antimony? Marie

[ ] Re: flu shot

How many mercury amalgam dental fillings does the mom have? Did she have the

flu shot while she was pregnant or breastfeeding? Did she have Rhogam? Mercury

is bio-accumulative, so part of my body burden was from my mother and

grandmother's exposure before I ever had my own vaccines and mercury amalgam

dental fillings. Did she eat fish? Does she live near a coal-fired power plant?

Autism is generally caused by a combination of toxic metals. I'd like to see a

DDI hair test for her unvaccinated child. Arsenic and antimony in particular are

commonly high among individuals with ASD.

S S

Re: flu shot

Posted by: " Marie Brewer " marie.brewer@... mariefbrewer

Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:02 am (PST)

I do have to say I know a mom with a son that has ASD and she had another baby

and didnt vaccinate that child. Ya know what , he was just diagnosed with ASD .

Can you explain that if its the vaccines??

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Lots of triggers in the environment -- mercury/vaccines is just one of

them, and a big one at that. The list is endless.

Marie Brewer wrote:

>

> I do have to say I know a mom with a son that has ASD and she had

> another baby and didnt vaccinate that child. Ya know what , he was

> just diagnosed with ASD . Can you explain that if its the vaccines??

> Re: [ ] Re: flu shot

>

> Marie

> I know that the excessive mercury caused by excessive shots( given at

> birth and when sick) in addition to excessive antibiotics administered

> caused delays in speech, poor motor coordination, lack of social

> skills and learning problems that my daughter will have to cope with

> the rest of her life. I signed for the shots each and every time. I

> know what it feels like to blame yourself for something so

> preventable. Maybe some people cannot handle that feeling and

> therefore the shots can never be blamed because that would implicitly

> blame the mother. Something to consider.

>

> This is almost too cruel but the little 9 year old that we carpool

> with to the private school that supposedly accomodates kiddos with

> learning differences and social deficits, torments my 13 year old

> daughter in the car. She enjoys upsetting her just for the hell of it.

> My 13 year old can't handle a 9 year old. The little girl's mother

> works for Merck. Merck was the maker of most of the mercury containing

> shots that my daughter received. And here we are today still dealing

> with Merk.

> Felicia

>

> Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...

> <mailto:_Shepard%40excite.com>> wrote:

>

> I know that my nephew has vaccine-induced autism from a vaccine which

> never contained thimerosal (in his case, the DPT). We convinced enough

> that it is the vaccines, at least for many people, that we're trying

> to save you from feeling as horrible as you would if you keep signing

> for more of them...

> S S

>

> Re: flu shot

> Posted by: " Marie Brewer " marie.brewer@...

> <mailto:marie.brewer%40snet.net> mariefbrewer

> Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:59 am (PST)

>

> Absolutely, I feel the same, I tell my husband that all the time. If

> it was the shots I'd feel horrible since I signed for all them. THe

> question for me is is it the shots?

>

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I get a flu shot every yr. I had the flu about 10 yrs. ago and was so sick I promised myself I would not go without it again. I've heard of people getting sick after a flu shot but they probably were coming down with it before. There are many strains of the virus.I had the pneumonia vaccine and Shingles vaccine without any problems. I heard of someone recently who is in a wheelchair because the Shingles effected the nerve in her leg and she has a permanent foot drop.

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Can anyone help? I decided this year I was not going to get my son the flu

shot. He is healthy and making improvements, he has PDD NOS and apraxia, his Dr

has a niece that is severely autistic. She was pleased at the progress that

is making. He did have a bout of the flu, I know, this last week he

had a fever and a terrible cough, missed a week of school, nose running, and

stuffy, it was terrible, he was also terribly tired. Our whole family got the

flu shot and we did not get sick. When he went into the Dr for his five year

check she suggested he get a flu shot, we were able to make it out the door

because he had been sick and they don't give shots to sick kids. My thought is

if her niece is severly autistic she has nothing to lose, just because she

already is so terribly affected by autism, what is one more shot. But with my

son he has been making improvements right along, and I am scared. . I

believe in getting my son vaccinated, I do, he did have a flu shot last year.

They

claim all these shots are thimersol free, which I know there are traces in

the shots. Also, I worry about mercury. He was so sick this last week and

getting better, but still not back to normal. I worry that if I don't get him

the

flu shot he will get another strain that will be worse and he will be really

sick. All the kids in his class were out but one, which makes me think did

we all skip the flu shot and this is what happens? I have been just torturing

myself about the choice to make. Can you order special flu shots that don't

have mercury in them. I also have heard that the flu mist really isn't that

safe and can make things even worse. My family is encouraging me to get him the

shot, I feel torn both ways. I am afraid if he gets the shot his autism will

get worse and he will lose all he has gained. If I don't get it, I worry that

he will get really sick. The flu is nothing to fool around with and people

all think it is something you can just get over at home, but some kids die.

Any suggestions or positive feedback would be appreciated. His shots are

getting spaced out and he is not getting more than one at any given time, I

think

he is four shots behind. Help. Jen

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Hi Jen,

I also was totally torn about whether to have our son get the flu shot (he's 2

1/2 and has mild PDD-NOS and moderate apraxia). Ultimately, we decided against

it because we didn't want him to lose any of the gains he's been making with his

speech, plus I remember reading other parents' posts on how trace amounts of

thimerosol or mercury could still be in flu shots, even if they're labelled

mercury-free.

One thing I thought I'd mention, we just saw Dr. Megson (a phenomenal

DAN! dr), and her opinion was that kids with neurological issues like apraxia or

autism should not get flu shots. And she is actually not against vaccines in

general, she told us that she'll make sure our son does get the correct

vaccinations that he truly needs. But for us, she did specifically recommend

against the flu shot.

I'm sure lots of parents will have many different opinions, but just go with

what you feel is truly best for your son, whatever way that may be. Good luck

with your decision, I know it's a tough one!!!

B.

> My family is encouraging me to get him the

>shot, I feel torn both ways. I am afraid if he gets the shot his autism >will

get worse and he will lose all he has gained. If I don't get it, I >worry that

he will get really sick. The flu is nothing to fool around >with and people all

think it is something you can just get over at home, >but some kids die. Any

suggestions or positive feedback would be >appreciated. His shots are getting

spaced out and he is not getting more >than one at any given time, I think

>he is four shots behind. Help. Jen

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I hope I can be of help.  I recently went to a Tocco presentation.  For the

past 27 years she has been an independent researcher concerning all aspects of

vaccines.  I am so thankful that I'm able to make informed decisions concerning

my family's health.   If you google Tocco  you can get a lot of her

research.  Also if you'd like there are natural alternatives to preventing the

flu virus along with homeopathic ways to decrease symptoms of the flu and speed

up the healing process.  I'm in my 30's and so far I have never had the flu nor

have I ever had the flu shot..   I encourage you to do what you think is best. 

Hopefully making informed decisions will help you be confident in what you

decide. 

From: jennyjudy@... <jennyjudy@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] flu shot

Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:07 PM

Can anyone help? I decided this year I was not going to get my son

the flu

shot. He is healthy and making improvements, he has PDD NOS and apraxia, his Dr

has a niece that is severely autistic. She was pleased at the progress that

is making. He did have a bout of the flu, I know, this last week he

had a fever and a terrible cough, missed a week of school, nose running, and

stuffy, it was terrible, he was also terribly tired. Our whole family got the

flu shot and we did not get sick. When he went into the Dr for his five year

check she suggested he get a flu shot, we were able to make it out the door

because he had been sick and they don't give shots to sick kids. My thought is

if her niece is severly autistic she has nothing to lose, just because she

already is so terribly affected by autism, what is one more shot. But with my

son he has been making improvements right along, and I am scared. . I

believe in getting my son vaccinated, I do, he did have a flu shot last year.

They

claim all these shots are thimersol free, which I know there are traces in

the shots. Also, I worry about mercury. He was so sick this last week and

getting better, but still not back to normal. I worry that if I don't get him

the

flu shot he will get another strain that will be worse and he will be really

sick. All the kids in his class were out but one, which makes me think did

we all skip the flu shot and this is what happens? I have been just torturing

myself about the choice to make. Can you order special flu shots that don't

have mercury in them. I also have heard that the flu mist really isn't that

safe and can make things even worse. My family is encouraging me to get him the

shot, I feel torn both ways. I am afraid if he gets the shot his autism will

get worse and he will lose all he has gained. If I don't get it, I worry that

he will get really sick. The flu is nothing to fool around with and people

all think it is something you can just get over at home, but some kids die..

Any suggestions or positive feedback would be appreciated. His shots are

getting spaced out and he is not getting more than one at any given time, I

think

he is four shots behind. Help. Jen

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Hi Jen,

I read your post this evening, and it almost brought a tear to my eye. It

reminded me of how difficult this decision is.

I am one of those people that witnessed an obvious regression in my son's speech

and physical abilities after his 12 month vaccines. Although I was armed with

that information and vowed to discontinue vaccinating him, I still gave him the

flu shot that year. It was thimerosol free, so I felt it would be safe. It

wasn't. My son regressed even more thereafter.

I just wanted to share my experience with you, and extend my wishes that

everything will be ok with your little guy either way.

Take Care,

@...: jennyjudy@...: Sat, 13 Dec

2008 15:07:33 -0500Subject: Re: [ ] flu shot

Can anyone help? I decided this year I was not going to get my son the flu shot.

He is healthy and making improvements, he has PDD NOS and apraxia, his Dr has a

niece that is severely autistic. She was pleased at the progress that is

making. He did have a bout of the flu, I know, this last week he had a fever and

a terrible cough, missed a week of school, nose running, and stuffy, it was

terrible, he was also terribly tired. Our whole family got the flu shot and we

did not get sick. When he went into the Dr for his five year check she suggested

he get a flu shot, we were able to make it out the door because he had been sick

and they don't give shots to sick kids. My thought is if her niece is severly

autistic she has nothing to lose, just because she already is so terribly

affected by autism, what is one more shot. But with my son he has been making

improvements right along, and I am scared. . I believe in getting my son

vaccinated, I do, he did have a flu shot last year. They claim all these shots

are thimersol free, which I know there are traces in the shots. Also, I worry

about mercury. He was so sick this last week and getting better, but still not

back to normal. I worry that if I don't get him the flu shot he will get another

strain that will be worse and he will be really sick. All the kids in his class

were out but one, which makes me think did we all skip the flu shot and this is

what happens? I have been just torturing myself about the choice to make. Can

you order special flu shots that don't have mercury in them. I also have heard

that the flu mist really isn't that safe and can make things even worse. My

family is encouraging me to get him the shot, I feel torn both ways. I am afraid

if he gets the shot his autism will get worse and he will lose all he has

gained. If I don't get it, I worry that he will get really sick. The flu is

nothing to fool around with and people all think it is something you can just

get over at home, but some kids die. Any suggestions or positive feedback would

be appreciated. His shots are getting spaced out and he is not getting more than

one at any given time, I think he is four shots behind. Help.

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Jen,

There are a lot of natural anti-viral supplements that you can use to boost the

immune system of your boy. The vitamin A in cod liver oil helps the body fight

viruses, cooking with garlic is very good and we use a couple of very good

immune boosting supplements by Ecological Formulas. The first is called C3

which is a curcumin complex and the seccond is called Ellagic which is also very

good to boost the immune system with. There is also an enzyme by Enzymedica

called Virustop that is very good in fighting viruses. Vitamin C, lots of

fluids, chicken soup is good for the soul.

All of us in our house got that nasty cough, lots of fatigue too and it did last

for quite some time, I must say. But we are better now and the illness didn't

kill us. Mark, with all of the supplements he takes, only got it mildly. If

your boy has a similiar strain to what we had, it actually took some time for it

to pass from one person to the other in the house, so don't count yourself out

of the woods yet!

I don't regret stopping the flu vacs for myself. (None of my kids have ever had

the flu shot though are otherwise fully vaccinated). Without the shots, each of

us may catch an illnes once or twice a year and who is to say that we wouldn't

get ill otherwise? My beau, the only one who had the flu shot, got the sickest

of all of us with this nasty flu/cold to be frank and was laid up for an entire

week!

Don't feel guilty; kids get sick all of the time. It is not so bad to build up

the body naturally with immunities so that it has the 'knowledge' to ward off

illness, imo. Keep an eye on your boy; watch his temperature, give him some

mommy TLC and hopefully he'll get better soon.

I think that it's great that you've found a doctor who will give him his vac's

one at a time in a nicely spaced out fashion. When you take him in to get his

shots, think about giving him some oral reduced glutathione for a couple of days

beforehand; and also give him probiotics to boost his gut flora and this will

help his immune system through the shots as well. Glutathione is our bodies

natural 'soap' and it helps the body to detoxify; our kids generally test low in

glutathione thus have a harder time detoxifying metals and other 'stuff' then

most people.

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

[sPAM]Re: [ ] flu shot

Hi Jen,

I also was totally torn about whether to have our son get the flu shot (he's 2

1/2 and has mild PDD-NOS and moderate apraxia). Ultimately, we decided against

it because we didn't want him to lose any of the gains he's been making with his

speech, plus I remember reading other parents' posts on how trace amounts of

thimerosol or mercury could still be in flu shots, even if they're labelled

mercury-free.

One thing I thought I'd mention, we just saw Dr. Megson (a phenomenal

DAN! dr), and her opinion was that kids with neurological issues like apraxia or

autism should not get flu shots. And she is actually not against vaccines in

general, she told us that she'll make sure our son does get the correct

vaccinations that he truly needs. But for us, she did specifically recommend

against the flu shot.

I'm sure lots of parents will have many different opinions, but just go with

what you feel is truly best for your son, whatever way that may be. Good luck

with your decision, I know it's a tough one!!!

B.

> My family is encouraging me to get him the

>shot, I feel torn both ways. I am afraid if he gets the shot his autism >will

get worse and he will lose all he has gained. If I don't get it, I >worry that

he will get really sick. The flu is nothing to fool around >with and people all

think it is something you can just get over at home, >but some kids die. Any

suggestions or positive feedback would be >appreciated. His shots are getting

spaced out and he is not getting more >than one at any given time, I think

>he is four shots behind. Help. Jen

[Guest guest]

We have always skipped it and so far ( fingers crossed) we have been fine. We

are extra

fast to seek medical attention when our little guy is not feeling well, just in

case it is the

flu. WE have never had any Dr. pressure to get it.

CC

>

> Can anyone help? I decided this year I was not going to get my son the flu

> shot. He is healthy and making improvements, he has PDD NOS and apraxia, his

Dr

> has a niece that is severely autistic. She was pleased at the progress that

> is making. He did have a bout of the flu, I know, this last week he

> had a fever and a terrible cough, missed a week of school, nose running, and

> stuffy, it was terrible, he was also terribly tired. Our whole family got the

> flu shot and we did not get sick. When he went into the Dr for his five year

> check she suggested he get a flu shot, we were able to make it out the door

> because he had been sick and they don't give shots to sick kids. My thought is

> if her niece is severly autistic she has nothing to lose, just because she

> already is so terribly affected by autism, what is one more shot. But with my

> son he has been making improvements right along, and I am scared. . I

> believe in getting my son vaccinated, I do, he did have a flu shot last year.

They

> claim all these shots are thimersol free, which I know there are traces in

> the shots. Also, I worry about mercury. He was so sick this last week and

> getting better, but still not back to normal. I worry that if I don't get him

the

> flu shot he will get another strain that will be worse and he will be really

> sick. All the kids in his class were out but one, which makes me think did

> we all skip the flu shot and this is what happens? I have been just torturing

> myself about the choice to make. Can you order special flu shots that don't

> have mercury in them. I also have heard that the flu mist really isn't that

> safe and can make things even worse. My family is encouraging me to get him

the

> shot, I feel torn both ways. I am afraid if he gets the shot his autism will

> get worse and he will lose all he has gained. If I don't get it, I worry that

> he will get really sick. The flu is nothing to fool around with and people

> all think it is something you can just get over at home, but some kids die.

> Any suggestions or positive feedback would be appreciated. His shots are

> getting spaced out and he is not getting more than one at any given time, I

think

> he is four shots behind. Help. Jen

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You would think a Dr would know that. I just meant that my son has made such

gains and is not severely autistic. He has made progress and I would hate to

see that progress go out the window. Jen

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If the niece is severly autistic the LAST thing she needs of another

vaccine....

> From: jennyjudy@... <jennyjudy@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] flu shot

>

> Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:07 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Can anyone help? I decided this year I was not going

to get my son the flu

>

> shot. He is healthy and making improvements, he has PDD NOS and

apraxia, his Dr

>

> has a niece that is severely autistic. She was pleased at the

progress that

>

> is making. He did have a bout of the flu, I know, this last

week he

>

> had a fever and a terrible cough, missed a week of school, nose

running, and

>

> stuffy, it was terrible, he was also terribly tired. Our whole

family got the

>

> flu shot and we did not get sick. When he went into the Dr for his

five year

>

> check she suggested he get a flu shot, we were able to make it out

the door

>

> because he had been sick and they don't give shots to sick kids.

My thought is

>

> if her niece is severly autistic she has nothing to lose, just

because she

>

> already is so terribly affected by autism, what is one more shot.

But with my

>

> son he has been making improvements right along, and I am

scared. . I

>

> believe in getting my son vaccinated, I do, he did have a flu shot

last year. They

>

> claim all these shots are thimersol free, which I know there are

traces in

>

> the shots. Also, I worry about mercury. He was so sick this last

week and

>

> getting better, but still not back to normal. I worry that if I

don't get him the

>

> flu shot he will get another strain that will be worse and he

will be really

>

> sick. All the kids in his class were out but one, which makes me

think did

>

> we all skip the flu shot and this is what happens? I have been

just torturing

>

> myself about the choice to make. Can you order special flu shots

that don't

>

> have mercury in them. I also have heard that the flu mist really

isn't that

>

> safe and can make things even worse. My family is encouraging me

to get him the

>

> shot, I feel torn both ways. I am afraid if he gets the shot his

autism will

>

> get worse and he will lose all he has gained. If I don't get it, I

worry that

>

> he will get really sick. The flu is nothing to fool around with

and people

>

> all think it is something you can just get over at home, but some

kids die..

>

> Any suggestions or positive feedback would be appreciated. His

shots are

>

> getting spaced out and he is not getting more than one at any

given time, I think

>

> he is four shots behind. Help. Jen

>

> ************ **Make your life easier with all your friends, email,

and

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>

[Guest guest]

Personally, I've never gotten a flu shot and I've never gotten the flu.

That's just me and I'd sure like to hear from others in the group. I'm betting

it's a mixed bag.

I've asked Dr Brownstein several times over the passed years...why, if I

have RA (which I do) and my immune system is compromised, don't I ever get

colds, the flue, viruses, etc. His answer was that very often people WITH RA

and these types of conditions don't contact the flu, etc, very often.

Strange.

Any of you with this happening? AND, believe me, I'm not complaining!

thanks,

Judy

[Guest guest]

90% of flu shots contain mercury (preservative-free sealed, individual

shots do not), as sources say, and with my compromised immune system,

I don't want to risk putting any harmful chemicals in my body than

need to be, so I don't get them.

On Sep 17, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Sandy Ball Decker wrote:

>

>

> what is your opinion on getting flu shots? I've received missed

> signals from my doctors.

>

> Sandy

>

> MCTD

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is that why everyone around me keeps getting colds and flu and I got one cold

in 12/1999 after more than 12 years of never having a col or flu. Haven't had

one since.  The only reason I got that one was b/cause I was playing an elf to

Santa Claus and several children came to see Santa while they were sick,  They

kept sneezing in my face. I;ve played elf for more than 8 years and it never

happened again. I was diagnosed with scleroderma in 2005.  That year, I was in

so much pain, I had to have someone else stand in for me. Huh! you gave me

something to check out.  Thanks!  Dolores (elf) & Mike (Santa).  Thinking about

giving it up this year as we are moving to Puerto Rico.  We are selling our

costumes. 

From: Judkeels@... <Judkeels@...>

Subject: Re: rheumatic flu shot

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:13 PM

 

Personally, I've never gotten a flu shot and I've never gotten the flu.

That's just me and I'd sure like to hear from others in the group. I'm betting

it's a mixed bag.

I've asked Dr Brownstein several times over the passed years...why, if I

have RA (which I do) and my immune system is compromised, don't I ever get

colds, the flue, viruses, etc. His answer was that very often people WITH RA

and these types of conditions don't contact the flu, etc, very often.

Strange.

Any of you with this happening? AND, believe me, I'm not complaining!

thanks,

Judy

[Guest guest]

My rheumatologist insists that I get it, so I do. But,even though I had the shot

two years(in October), I caught the flu in June, which is pretty late in the

season. I was sure that I was dying for 4 days-I only had enough energy to get

to the bathroom and back to bed. I couldn't hear because my ears were ringing so

badly, so I felt totally isolated from the world and my family. I just seem to

come down a lot with low level viruses-like stomach bugs, low grade fever, just

enough to slow me down for a day or two. I haven't had a cold in a while,

though. I wouldn't take a chance at possibly getting the regular or swine flu.

I'm getting the shots.

Mona

rheumatic flu shot

what is your opinion on getting flu shots? I've received missed signals from

my doctors.

Sandy

MCTD

[Guest guest]

I had the flu one time real good, sick for 3 or 4 days, totally out of

commission. I actually imagined I was dying, and remember thinking, " If

I was elderly, this would probably really kill me. " That was in 1994,

just a couple months after I had received the only flu shot I ever took.

Never had one before that, never had one since. Never had a flu like

that since, either. Hopefully never again.

Diane

________________________________

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On

Behalf Of mike rosner

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:39 PM

rheumatic

Subject: Re: rheumatic flu shot

Is that why everyone around me keeps getting colds and flu and I got one

cold in 12/1999 after more than 12 years of never having a col or flu.

Haven't had one since. The only reason I got that one was b/cause I was

playing an elf to Santa Claus and several children came to see Santa

while they were sick, They kept sneezing in my face. I;ve played elf

for more than 8 years and it never happened again. I was diagnosed with

scleroderma in 2005. That year, I was in so much pain, I had to have

someone else stand in for me. Huh! you gave me something to check out.

Thanks! Dolores (elf) & Mike (Santa). Thinking about giving it up this

year as we are moving to Puerto Rico. We are selling our costumes.

From: Judkeels@... <mailto:Judkeels%40aol.com> <Judkeels@...

<mailto:Judkeels%40aol.com> >

Subject: Re: rheumatic flu shot

rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:13 PM

Personally, I've never gotten a flu shot and I've never gotten the flu.

That's just me and I'd sure like to hear from others in the group. I'm

betting

it's a mixed bag.

I've asked Dr Brownstein several times over the passed years...why, if I

have RA (which I do) and my immune system is compromised, don't I ever

get

colds, the flue, viruses, etc. His answer was that very often people

WITH RA

and these types of conditions don't contact the flu, etc, very often.

Strange.

Any of you with this happening? AND, believe me, I'm not complaining!

thanks,

Judy

[Guest guest]

I've never gotten a flu shot and never will. The last time I had the flu was

1974 -- no kidding. Vaccines contain preservatives (mercury is one) that has

been linked to autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. Go

to www.mercola.com (you may have to search for yesterday's article) to read what

he has to say about flu vaccines and the current swine flu hype. I tend to

agree with Dr Mercola more than I disagree with him.

Diane

________________________________

From: Sandy Ball Decker <sandykayball@...>

rheumatic <rheumatic >

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:55:15 PM

Subject: rheumatic flu shot

what is your opinion on getting flu shots? I've received missed signals from my

doctors.

Sandy

MCTD

[Guest guest]

So I guess there IS something to th

[Guest guest]

sorry...

I guess there IS something to that theory after all. Great!

Judy!

[Guest guest]

My opinion of the flu shot is STAY AWAY very far away from it.

Your body is already trying very hard to battle mycoplasma why add to it.

check out www.mercola.com and sign up for his newsletter and do a search for the

flu shot.

carol_DM

[Guest guest]

i never get the flu or colds too - even when my husband gets them. i

think when your imm system is overactive - as in RA - you don't pick up

stuff like that.

monique

Personally, I've never gotten a flu shot and I've never gotten the flu.

That's just me and I'd sure like to hear from others in the group. I'm

betting

it's a mixed bag.

I've asked Dr Brownstein several times over the passed years...why, if I

have RA (which I do) and my immune system is compromised, don't I ever get

colds, the flue, viruses, etc. His answer was that very often people

WITH RA

and these types of conditions don't contact the flu, etc, very often.

Strange.

Any of you with this happening? AND, believe me, I'm not complaining!

thanks,

Judy

[Guest guest]

I've had the flu shot every year for about 10 years now,  and it's never

affected me negatively.  I have RA,  in remission now for 7 years, and even

though my doctor discouraged me from getting the shot, I've gone ahead and

gotten it.  I plan on having the  swine flu shots too, as soon as they come

out. 

 

Ana in Alaska

From: Mona Goldstein <spellers@...>

Subject: Re: rheumatic flu shot

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:00 PM

 

My rheumatologist insists that I get it, so I do. But,even though I had the shot

two years(in October), I caught the flu in June, which is pretty late in the

season. I was sure that I was dying for 4 days-I only had enough energy to get

to the bathroom and back to bed. I couldn't hear because my ears were ringing so

badly, so I felt totally isolated from the world and my family. I just seem to

come down a lot with low level viruses-like stomach bugs, low grade fever, just

enough to slow me down for a day or two. I haven't had a cold in a while,

though. I wouldn't take a chance at possibly getting the regular or swine flu.

I'm getting the shots.

Mona

rheumatic flu shot

what is your opinion on getting flu shots? I've received missed signals from my

doctors.

Sandy

MCTD

[Guest guest]

I've never had a flu shot and I've never had the flu. I haven't been sick

in decades. I used to have sinus infections every month but since I

eliminated dairy from my diet I don't get those either. Salt water

irrigation of the nasal passages is essential for me. Vaccines scare me

more then the possibility of getting sick! El

_____

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of Sandy Ball Decker

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:55 PM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic flu shot

what is your opinion on getting flu shots? I've received missed signals from

my doctors.

Sandy

MCTD