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Gee, I am no expert, but in my notes from a nutrionist with whom I consult

the MTHFR gene means they do not detox well.

[ ] Genetic testing

Is anyone familiar with the MTHFR, DNA Analysis? It tests for two

different mutations C677T and A1298C. My son's result found a

mutation but only 1, the A1298C.

Thanks!

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Hi ,

Check out www.chromodisorder.org and you can sign up to network with other

people and

get information on the mutation/disorder.

-Jenna

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> Is anyone familiar with the MTHFR, DNA Analysis? It tests for two

> different mutations C677T and A1298C. My son's result found a

> mutation but only 1, the A1298C.

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> Thanks!

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Because of my husband's illness, I haven't read carefully all the posts on this

network, so forgive me if this has already been discussed. If you don't have

symptoms, you may want to try to find a way to pay for the test yourself if you

can also avoid having your insurance company find out about the diagnosis. I

may be paranoid, but I would try all sorts of things to be anonymous.

Elinor

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Hi ,

People can also check with their doctors about payment. I go to the

MDA-affiliated Muscle Disease clinic in my state, and the MDA paid the

portion that my insurance did not cover. That was the only reason I

agreed to get the testing, since there was no way I could pay out of

pocket. Athena did originally bill me for $800 and I had to make some

phone calls to the clinic and also to the MDA, but they finally took

care of it.

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Hi-

Yes- had the Genetic Testing done on our son. I find the entire world of

Genetics to be so fascinating..... and I would highly recommend that anyone

who is offered this testing have it done! My Son is almost 3-- we had the

testing done prior to his 2nd birthday. We wanted this done when we found

out that our Son had Hypotonia-- (we wanted to know why). We took our Son

to a Neurologist-- who ordered an MRI of the Brain and the Genetic Testing.

The MRI had a slight abnormality (mild PVL)

The genetic results showed a chromosome deletion- in the area of

10q23.31. this means- the 10th chromosome, the q arm of this chromosome, and

the

23.31 area. this is a very small deletion. When we found out that our Son

had this deletion, the next step was that my husband and I were tested for

the same deletion. It turns out that my husband had the exact same

deletion.

They then analyzed each of the genes that " were missing " because of the

deletion. Most of these genes had already been studied, but 4 were not yet.

Therefore, we were able to know about what " it could mean " for my hubby

and son to be " missing " the known Genes. None of the known missing genes had

any correlation to Cognitive or Physical Delays.... which was a relief. We

did learn that " missing one of the Genes " can lead to a higher risk for

Aneurysms for Adults. My 50 year old hubby immediately went to have an

Echocardiogram done.... it was normal. We now know that my hubby is at risk

for Aneurysms- and he will make sure he is checked regularly.... this in

essence, can save his life! We will let our Son know about this when he is

older.

The Genetic testing DID NOT give us clear answers about WHY our almost 3

year old Son has delays.....BUT it DID clear up some confusion among his

various doctors.... We had several Doctors in the SAME hospital system..... The

Neurologist blamed our Son's delays on " Genetic issues " ..... and the

Genetics people felt that the delays were Neurological in Nature. The testing

helped to provide clarification. If you have any further questions.... let me

know.

Even more interesting, I found out about a FREE Research Study that is

going on for the next 5 years at the Medical College of Georgia. The purpose

of the Study is to look for Genetic Causes of Developmental Delays. The

Study is free-- they will pay for you to have blood drawn locally, and they

pay for the shipping of the blood to them. They also will run ALL tests for

free...... What is really cool, is that they are comparing kids with

similar deletions.... and looking at symptoms..... they are trying to find out

what genes that have never been studied do. We will soon be participating in

this..... we will be sending them blood from me, my hubby, my son, my

" typical daughter " , and several members of my hubby's family. We are hoping

that we will learn more about the " genes that were never studied " in our

Son's deletion.

I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST that all people on this site who have had Genetic

Testing in the past for their child, with abnormal results, consider

participation in this FREE Study! The testing becomes more advanced as time

goes

by.... you might find out something new! Let me know if any of you want

the info.... I have it all

saved on my computer.... and I can give you the phone numbers of who to

contact. Your child must have already had Genetic Testing - with abnormal

results to participate. Genetic testing is VERY expensive- this is a good

way to get it done again-- with a more advanced test.... for free! You will

be provided with the results!

Take care-

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Our son had a microarray analaysis test six months ago when he was 3.5 and the

results did not reveal any abnormalities.

 

From: CHRISTINA Shultz <candmsh@...>

Subject: [ ] Genetic testing

Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 8:00 PM

 

Has anyone done the Micro DNA testing? In MT my kids get medicade because of

their speech delays. My youngest daughter has it so bad (she will be 7 next

month and can just say mom all the way threw) that the specialist that we see

asked us to do this testing. You bet I was game. Just wanted to know if any of

you have had this done and what the results were.

Shultz

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Do you have any contact information for the study?

Thanks

 

From: <>

Subject: Re: [ ] Genetic testing

Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 12:30 PM

 

Hi-

Yes- had the Genetic Testing done on our son. I find the entire world of

Genetics to be so fascinating. .... and I would highly recommend that anyone

who is offered this testing have it done! My Son is almost 3-- we had the

testing done prior to his 2nd birthday. We wanted this done when we found

out that our Son had Hypotonia-- (we wanted to know why). We took our Son

to a Neurologist- - who ordered an MRI of the Brain and the Genetic Testing.

The MRI had a slight abnormality (mild PVL)

The genetic results showed a chromosome deletion- in the area of

10q23.31. this means- the 10th chromosome, the q arm of this chromosome, and the

23.31 area. this is a very small deletion. When we found out that our Son

had this deletion, the next step was that my husband and I were tested for

the same deletion. It turns out that my husband had the exact same

deletion.

They then analyzed each of the genes that " were missing " because of the

deletion. Most of these genes had already been studied, but 4 were not yet.

Therefore, we were able to know about what " it could mean " for my hubby

and son to be " missing " the known Genes. None of the known missing genes had

any correlation to Cognitive or Physical Delays.... which was a relief. We

did learn that " missing one of the Genes " can lead to a higher risk for

Aneurysms for Adults. My 50 year old hubby immediately went to have an

Echocardiogram done.... it was normal. We now know that my hubby is at risk

for Aneurysms- and he will make sure he is checked regularly... . this in

essence, can save his life! We will let our Son know about this when he is

older.

The Genetic testing DID NOT give us clear answers about WHY our almost 3

year old Son has delays.....BUT it DID clear up some confusion among his

various doctors.... We had several Doctors in the SAME hospital system..... The

Neurologist blamed our Son's delays on " Genetic issues " ..... and the

Genetics people felt that the delays were Neurological in Nature. The testing

helped to provide clarification. If you have any further questions... . let me

know.

Even more interesting, I found out about a FREE Research Study that is

going on for the next 5 years at the Medical College of Georgia. The purpose

of the Study is to look for Genetic Causes of Developmental Delays. The

Study is free-- they will pay for you to have blood drawn locally, and they

pay for the shipping of the blood to them. They also will run ALL tests for

free...... What is really cool, is that they are comparing kids with

similar deletions... . and looking at symptoms.... . they are trying to find out

what genes that have never been studied do. We will soon be participating in

this..... we will be sending them blood from me, my hubby, my son, my

" typical daughter " , and several members of my hubby's family. We are hoping

that we will learn more about the " genes that were never studied " in our

Son's deletion.

I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST that all people on this site who have had Genetic

Testing in the past for their child, with abnormal results, consider

participation in this FREE Study! The testing becomes more advanced as time goes

by.... you might find out something new! Let me know if any of you want

the info.... I have it all

saved on my computer.... and I can give you the phone numbers of who to

contact. Your child must have already had Genetic Testing - with abnormal

results to participate. Genetic testing is VERY expensive- this is a good

way to get it done again-- with a more advanced test.... for free! You will

be provided with the results!

Take care-

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We had the microarray DNA test done... came back completely normal... my 4 year

old son has ASD and verbal apraxia, but nothing that is due to anything genetic

according to the test. We did the test b/c it helped to rule out some things so

we didn't have to worry about those anymore... it's all good information and

anything you find out gives you power... if you can stand having your daughter

get a blood draw (not so fun for kids), and a wait of about 3 weeks or so, it's

all worth it.

Tatyana

[ ] Genetic testing

Has anyone done the Micro DNA testing? In MT my kids get medicade because of

their speech delays. My youngest daughter has it so bad (she will be 7 next

month and can just say mom all the way threw) that the specialist that we see

asked us to do this testing. You bet I was game. Just wanted to know if any of

you have had this done and what the results were.

Shultz

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I would like the contact information as well. We just had a second microray done

( the first one when my daughter was 1 1/2 came back normal) and it picked up

extra matter in my daughters x chromosone. We have an appointment with the

Geneticist in April to find out what this is and what this means. Emory genetics

now want myself and my husband to get tested but unless they are going to pay

for it we will not it. We already pay 2500.00 per month out of pocket just for

our daughters therapies. We can't afford to find out why we need to work on how

to overcome. It would be great if we could get info on this study.

Thanks

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Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 2:45:13 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Genetic testing

 

Do you have any contact information for the study?

Thanks

 

From: aol (DOT) com <aol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: [childrensapraxiane t] Genetic testing

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Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 12:30 PM

 

Hi-

Yes- had the Genetic Testing done on our son. I find the entire world of

Genetics to be so fascinating. .... and I would highly recommend that anyone

who is offered this testing have it done! My Son is almost 3-- we had the

testing done prior to his 2nd birthday. We wanted this done when we found

out that our Son had Hypotonia-- (we wanted to know why). We took our Son

to a Neurologist- - who ordered an MRI of the Brain and the Genetic Testing.

The MRI had a slight abnormality (mild PVL)

The genetic results showed a chromosome deletion- in the area of

10q23.31. this means- the 10th chromosome, the q arm of this chromosome, and the

23.31 area. this is a very small deletion. When we found out that our Son

had this deletion, the next step was that my husband and I were tested for

the same deletion. It turns out that my husband had the exact same

deletion.

They then analyzed each of the genes that " were missing " because of the

deletion. Most of these genes had already been studied, but 4 were not yet.

Therefore, we were able to know about what " it could mean " for my hubby

and son to be " missing " the known Genes. None of the known missing genes had

any correlation to Cognitive or Physical Delays.... which was a relief. We

did learn that " missing one of the Genes " can lead to a higher risk for

Aneurysms for Adults. My 50 year old hubby immediately went to have an

Echocardiogram done.... it was normal. We now know that my hubby is at risk

for Aneurysms- and he will make sure he is checked regularly... . this in

essence, can save his life! We will let our Son know about this when he is

older.

The Genetic testing DID NOT give us clear answers about WHY our almost 3

year old Son has delays.....BUT it DID clear up some confusion among his

various doctors.... We had several Doctors in the SAME hospital system..... The

Neurologist blamed our Son's delays on " Genetic issues " ..... and the

Genetics people felt that the delays were Neurological in Nature. The testing

helped to provide clarification. If you have any further questions... . let me

know.

Even more interesting, I found out about a FREE Research Study that is

going on for the next 5 years at the Medical College of Georgia. The purpose

of the Study is to look for Genetic Causes of Developmental Delays. The

Study is free-- they will pay for you to have blood drawn locally, and they

pay for the shipping of the blood to them. They also will run ALL tests for

free...... What is really cool, is that they are comparing kids with

similar deletions... . and looking at symptoms.... . they are trying to find out

what genes that have never been studied do. We will soon be participating in

this..... we will be sending them blood from me, my hubby, my son, my

" typical daughter " , and several members of my hubby's family. We are hoping

that we will learn more about the " genes that were never studied " in our

Son's deletion.

I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST that all people on this site who have had Genetic

Testing in the past for their child, with abnormal results, consider

participation in this FREE Study! The testing becomes more advanced as time goes

by.... you might find out something new! Let me know if any of you want

the info.... I have it all

saved on my computer.... and I can give you the phone numbers of who to

contact. Your child must have already had Genetic Testing - with abnormal

results to participate. Genetic testing is VERY expensive- this is a good

way to get it done again-- with a more advanced test.... for free! You will

be provided with the results!

Take care-

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Thanks for sharing this info. I'm interested to participate in this study.

Who do we contact?

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Subject: Re: [ ] Genetic testing

Hi-

Yes- had the Genetic Testing done on our son. I find the entire world of

Genetics to be so fascinating..... and I would highly recommend that anyone

who is offered this testing have it done! My Son is almost 3-- we had the

testing done prior to his 2nd birthday. We wanted this done when we found

out that our Son had Hypotonia-- (we wanted to know why). We took our Son

to a Neurologist-- who ordered an MRI of the Brain and the Genetic Testing.

The MRI had a slight abnormality (mild PVL)

The genetic results showed a chromosome deletion- in the area of

10q23.31. this means- the 10th chromosome, the q arm of this chromosome, and

the

23.31 area. this is a very small deletion. When we found out that our Son

had this deletion, the next step was that my husband and I were tested for

the same deletion. It turns out that my husband had the exact same

deletion.

They then analyzed each of the genes that " were missing " because of the

deletion. Most of these genes had already been studied, but 4 were not yet.

Therefore, we were able to know about what " it could mean " for my hubby

and son to be " missing " the known Genes. None of the known missing genes had

any correlation to Cognitive or Physical Delays.... which was a relief. We

did learn that " missing one of the Genes " can lead to a higher risk for

Aneurysms for Adults. My 50 year old hubby immediately went to have an

Echocardiogram done.... it was normal. We now know that my hubby is at risk

for Aneurysms- and he will make sure he is checked regularly.... this in

essence, can save his life! We will let our Son know about this when he is

older.

The Genetic testing DID NOT give us clear answers about WHY our almost 3

year old Son has delays.....BUT it DID clear up some confusion among his

various doctors.... We had several Doctors in the SAME hospital system.....

The

Neurologist blamed our Son's delays on " Genetic issues " ..... and the

Genetics people felt that the delays were Neurological in Nature. The

testing

helped to provide clarification. If you have any further questions.... let

me

know.

Even more interesting, I found out about a FREE Research Study that is

going on for the next 5 years at the Medical College of Georgia. The purpose

of the Study is to look for Genetic Causes of Developmental Delays. The

Study is free-- they will pay for you to have blood drawn locally, and they

pay for the shipping of the blood to them. They also will run ALL tests for

free...... What is really cool, is that they are comparing kids with

similar deletions.... and looking at symptoms..... they are trying to find

out

what genes that have never been studied do. We will soon be participating in

this..... we will be sending them blood from me, my hubby, my son, my

" typical daughter " , and several members of my hubby's family. We are hoping

that we will learn more about the " genes that were never studied " in our

Son's deletion.

I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST that all people on this site who have had Genetic

Testing in the past for their child, with abnormal results, consider

participation in this FREE Study! The testing becomes more advanced as time

goes

by.... you might find out something new! Let me know if any of you want

the info.... I have it all

saved on my computer.... and I can give you the phone numbers of who to

contact. Your child must have already had Genetic Testing - with abnormal

results to participate. Genetic testing is VERY expensive- this is a good

way to get it done again-- with a more advanced test.... for free! You will

be provided with the results!

Take care-

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> I have been reading about a doctor in Maine her name is Amy Yasko she

> does genetic testing, has anyone in the group done any of her test kits?

>

>

>

>

> Lori

>

> yes my daughter had this done for my grandson() before doing the

protocol.

Carole________________________________

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Carole-

We, too, had the Amy Yasko testing done. What did you and your doctor think and

do with the results of the test?

Does anyone know if Dr G, or Dr or the NNY Center does anything with the

Amy Yasko genetic testing results?!

Thank You!!

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Re: Genetic Testing

>

> I have been reading about a doctor in Maine her name is Amy Yasko she

> does genetic testing, has anyone in the group done any of her test kits?

>

>

>

>

> Lori

>

> yes my daughter had this done for my grandson() before doing the

protocol.

Carole________________________________

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> > I have been reading about a doctor in Maine her name is Amy Yasko she

> > does genetic testing, has anyone in the group done any of her test kits?

> >

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> > Lori

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> > yes my daughter had this done for my grandson() before doing the

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Yes but Dr. G doesn't use them nor believe in them. At least, not the last time

we spoke about it which was a couple years ago.

Cheryl

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> I have been reading about a doctor in Maine her name is Amy Yasko she

> does genetic testing, has anyone in the group done any of her test kits?

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> Lori

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A doctor who does not believe in the value of gentic studies and genetic testing

does not seem like a very good doctor to me.

Of course, that is *my* opinion, but genetics play a major role in the outcome

of our own selves. What we choose to do with our genetic health history,

enviromentally, can change the outcome of a person.

>

> > I have been reading about a doctor in Maine her name is Amy Yasko she

> > does genetic testing, has anyone in the group done any of her test kits?

> >

> > Lori

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Has anyone else had the Amy Yasko genetic testing or any other genetic testing

done......AND, had Dr G, or Dr , or some other doctor actually read and

use the results??!

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Re: Genetic Testing

A doctor who does not believe in the value of gentic studies and genetic testing

does not seem like a very good doctor to me.

Of course, that is *my* opinion, but genetics play a major role in the outcome

of our own selves. What we choose to do with our genetic health history,

enviromentally, can change the outcome of a person.

>

> > I have been reading about a doctor in Maine her name is Amy Yasko she

> > does genetic testing, has anyone in the group done any of her test kits?

> >

> > Lori

> >

> >________________________________

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Hi ,

I haven¹t discussed Amy Yasko with Dr. G., but have discussed genetics with

him.

If there is a clear genetic link to something (i.e. Down Syndrome), he¹s not

going to deny that.

He feels that autism¹s secrets more likely lie within epigenetics (triggers

switching genes on and off) rather than regular genetics. And then there¹s

the whole retroviral issue.

My guess is that he does not feel that the science is ³hard² enough behind

what she is doing.

He is constantly talking to researchers, etc. seeking out the the best

science that can apply to our kids. He was talking with the Whittemore

Institute before they ever published. I honestly don¹t know how he

finds these people.

I know Dr. Yasko uses chelation, which Dr. Goldberg is very opposed to. He

feels that chelation can cause permanent damage. His opinion comes both

from studies and his experience in working with children in his care who

have previously been chelated. He says they just don¹t improve as well. He

feels so strongly about it that he has said he won¹t see a child who is

being chelated.

It just comes down to the fact that these two doctors have a very different

view of things.

There are a couple of things on her site that made me uncomfortable when

skimming through it.

I don¹t like that you have to buy things directly from her store. I realize

that the products she recommends may not be available other places, but it

still bothers me.

She comments that ³Your genetics will never change, so the results of this

test will be applicable throughout your entire life.² That¹s just not true,

because throughout our lifetimes there are epigenetic switches turning on

and off. She does discuss epigenetics somewhere else on her site, so I

don¹t know why she makes that statement. I mean, yes, our genes don¹t

change, but the activation of those genes does change and therefore their

functions change.

I¹m more comfortable with Dr. Goldberg. Others are more comfortable with

Dr. Yasko. I don¹t fault those who take their children to her... we all do

what we think is best for our kids (most would give everything we have to

make them well)... and I think most of us pray for all of the children every

day.

HTH,

Caroline G.

From: agirlnamedsuess21 <agirlnamedsuess@...>

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:39:07 +0000

< >

Subject: Re: Genetic Testing

A doctor who does not believe in the value of gentic studies and genetic

testing does not seem like a very good doctor to me.

Of course, that is *my* opinion, but genetics play a major role in the

outcome of our own selves. What we choose to do with our genetic health

history, enviromentally, can change the outcome of a person.

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So true.

My brother in law died recently – aged 50 from Chronic, Myeloid Leukemia

(the rare “Pennsylvania” version) an immune related dieased caused by a

genetic switch that goes on in a particular set of Chromosomes. It took two

years from diagnosis … his last major accomplishment was scuba diving on the

Great Barrier Reef at the end of January.

Thanks for your post Caroline,

Regards,

_____

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Caroline Glover

Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:28 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Genetic Testing

Hi ,

I haven¹t discussed Amy Yasko with Dr. G., but have discussed genetics with

him.

If there is a clear genetic link to something (i.e. Down Syndrome), he¹s not

going to deny that.

He feels that autism¹s secrets more likely lie within epigenetics (triggers

switching genes on and off) rather than regular genetics. And then there¹s

the whole retroviral issue.

My guess is that he does not feel that the science is ³hard² enough behind

what she is doing.

He is constantly talking to researchers, etc. seeking out the the best

science that can apply to our kids. He was talking with the Whittemore

Institute before they ever published. I honestly don¹t know how he

finds these people.

I know Dr. Yasko uses chelation, which Dr. Goldberg is very opposed to. He

feels that chelation can cause permanent damage. His opinion comes both

from studies and his experience in working with children in his care who

have previously been chelated. He says they just don¹t improve as well. He

feels so strongly about it that he has said he won¹t see a child who is

being chelated.

It just comes down to the fact that these two doctors have a very different

view of things.

There are a couple of things on her site that made me uncomfortable when

skimming through it.

I don¹t like that you have to buy things directly from her store. I realize

that the products she recommends may not be available other places, but it

still bothers me.

She comments that ³Your genetics will never change, so the results of this

test will be applicable throughout your entire life.² That¹s just not true,

because throughout our lifetimes there are epigenetic switches turning on

and off. She does discuss epigenetics somewhere else on her site, so I

don¹t know why she makes that statement. I mean, yes, our genes don¹t

change, but the activation of those genes does change and therefore their

functions change.

I¹m more comfortable with Dr. Goldberg. Others are more comfortable with

Dr. Yasko. I don¹t fault those who take their children to her... we all do

what we think is best for our kids (most would give everything we have to

make them well)... and I think most of us pray for all of the children every

day.

HTH,

Caroline G.

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A doctor who does not believe in the value of gentic studies and genetic

testing does not seem like a very good doctor to me.

Of course, that is *my* opinion, but genetics play a major role in the

outcome of our own selves. What we choose to do with our genetic health

history, enviromentally, can change the outcome of a person.

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I¹m terribly sorry to hear about your brother in law.

I suppose we were born about 100 years too soon, because science will find

how to switch those genes back someday. They are in the early stages of it

now (I¹m sure you know more about that than I).

My two boys have both now been diagnosed with a retinal dystrophy and I

suspect some sort of epigenetic switch there as well.

It amazes me that our bodies work as well as they do... there are so many

things that can go wrong every moment.

I try not to think about it too much.

Best wishes,

Caroline

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:29:36 -0700

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So true.

My brother in law died recently ­ aged 50 from Chronic, Myeloid Leukemia

(the rare ³Pennsylvania² version) an immune related dieased caused by a

genetic switch that goes on in a particular set of Chromosomes. It took two

years from diagnosis Š his last major accomplishment was scuba diving on the

Great Barrier Reef at the end of January.

Thanks for your post Caroline,

Regards,

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I do believe in switching genes on and off because my son with two different

cell lines switches every day all day. (No specific trigger, but just because he

has two different cell lines.)

I totally disagree with *you are stuck with your genetics* because one can

permanently change their DNA (as a matter of fact, that is one way DNA

permanently changes in a family geneline sometimes).

For instance, if heart disease runs in a family, which therefore predisposes

everyone in that family to having a preponderance towards having heart disease,

especially with the correct triggers in their lives. BUT if one clan in those

generations decides to live outside the box, with different diet/exercise/ and

lifestyle all the way around, they have permanently changed the DNA for

themselves and ALL descendents from them.

So, I disagree that you are stuck with the DNA you are born with.

In addition, when speaking of somene with two cell lines, like my son, the

numbers always change. As long as he remains in good health, there will be a

preponderance towards his normal cell line. In essence, he could reduce his

trisomic line by huge numbers depending on environmental factors. (That is one

good thing he has going for him, since we have managed to keep him well.)

DNA does and can change---for the better OR for the worse.

>

> Hi ,

>

> I haven¹t discussed Amy Yasko with Dr. G., but have discussed genetics with

> him.

>

> If there is a clear genetic link to something (i.e. Down Syndrome), he¹s not

> going to deny that.

>

> He feels that autism¹s secrets more likely lie within epigenetics (triggers

> switching genes on and off) rather than regular genetics. And then there¹s

> the whole retroviral issue.

>

> My guess is that he does not feel that the science is ³hard² enough behind

> what she is doing.

>

> He is constantly talking to researchers, etc. seeking out the the best

> science that can apply to our kids. He was talking with the Whittemore

> Institute before they ever published. I honestly don¹t know how he

> finds these people.

>

> I know Dr. Yasko uses chelation, which Dr. Goldberg is very opposed to. He

> feels that chelation can cause permanent damage. His opinion comes both

> from studies and his experience in working with children in his care who

> have previously been chelated. He says they just don¹t improve as well. He

> feels so strongly about it that he has said he won¹t see a child who is

> being chelated.

>

> It just comes down to the fact that these two doctors have a very different

> view of things.

>

> There are a couple of things on her site that made me uncomfortable when

> skimming through it.

>

> I don¹t like that you have to buy things directly from her store. I realize

> that the products she recommends may not be available other places, but it

> still bothers me.

>

> She comments that ³Your genetics will never change, so the results of this

> test will be applicable throughout your entire life.² That¹s just not true,

> because throughout our lifetimes there are epigenetic switches turning on

> and off. She does discuss epigenetics somewhere else on her site, so I

> don¹t know why she makes that statement. I mean, yes, our genes don¹t

> change, but the activation of those genes does change and therefore their

> functions change.

>

> I¹m more comfortable with Dr. Goldberg. Others are more comfortable with

> Dr. Yasko. I don¹t fault those who take their children to her... we all do

> what we think is best for our kids (most would give everything we have to

> make them well)... and I think most of us pray for all of the children every

> day.

>

> HTH,

> Caroline G.

>

>

> From: agirlnamedsuess21 <agirlnamedsuess@...>

> Reply-< >

> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:39:07 +0000

> < >

> Subject: Re: Genetic Testing

>

>

> A doctor who does not believe in the value of gentic studies and genetic

> testing does not seem like a very good doctor to me.

> Of course, that is *my* opinion, but genetics play a major role in the

> outcome of our own selves. What we choose to do with our genetic health

> history, enviromentally, can change the outcome of a person.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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It sounds like you are talking about epigenetics.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 7:21 PM

Subject: Re: Genetic Testing

I do believe in switching genes on and off because my son with two different

cell lines switches every day all day. (No specific trigger, but just

because he has two different cell lines.)

I totally disagree with *you are stuck with your genetics* because one can

permanently change their DNA (as a matter of fact, that is one way DNA

permanently changes in a family geneline sometimes).

For instance, if heart disease runs in a family, which therefore predisposes

everyone in that family to having a preponderance towards having heart

disease, especially with the correct triggers in their lives. BUT if one

clan in those generations decides to live outside the box, with different

diet/exercise/ and lifestyle all the way around, they have permanently

changed the DNA for themselves and ALL descendents from them.

So, I disagree that you are stuck with the DNA you are born with.

In addition, when speaking of somene with two cell lines, like my son, the

numbers always change. As long as he remains in good health, there will be a

preponderance towards his normal cell line. In essence, he could reduce his

trisomic line by huge numbers depending on environmental factors. (That is

one good thing he has going for him, since we have managed to keep him

well.)

DNA does and can change---for the better OR for the worse.

>

> Hi ,

>

> I haven¹t discussed Amy Yasko with Dr. G., but have discussed genetics

with

> him.

>

> If there is a clear genetic link to something (i.e. Down Syndrome), he¹s

not

> going to deny that.

>

> He feels that autism¹s secrets more likely lie within epigenetics

(triggers

> switching genes on and off) rather than regular genetics. And then there¹s

> the whole retroviral issue.

>

> My guess is that he does not feel that the science is ³hard² enough behind

> what she is doing.

>

> He is constantly talking to researchers, etc. seeking out the the best

> science that can apply to our kids. He was talking with the Whittemore

> Institute before they ever published. I honestly don¹t know how

he

> finds these people.

>

> I know Dr. Yasko uses chelation, which Dr. Goldberg is very opposed to. He

> feels that chelation can cause permanent damage. His opinion comes both

> from studies and his experience in working with children in his care who

> have previously been chelated. He says they just don¹t improve as well. He

> feels so strongly about it that he has said he won¹t see a child who is

> being chelated.

>

> It just comes down to the fact that these two doctors have a very

different

> view of things.

>

> There are a couple of things on her site that made me uncomfortable when

> skimming through it.

>

> I don¹t like that you have to buy things directly from her store. I

realize

> that the products she recommends may not be available other places, but it

> still bothers me.

>

> She comments that ³Your genetics will never change, so the results of this

> test will be applicable throughout your entire life.² That¹s just not

true,

> because throughout our lifetimes there are epigenetic switches turning on

> and off. She does discuss epigenetics somewhere else on her site, so I

> don¹t know why she makes that statement. I mean, yes, our genes don¹t

> change, but the activation of those genes does change and therefore their

> functions change.

>

> I¹m more comfortable with Dr. Goldberg. Others are more comfortable with

> Dr. Yasko. I don¹t fault those who take their children to her... we all do

> what we think is best for our kids (most would give everything we have to

> make them well)... and I think most of us pray for all of the children

every

> day.

>

> HTH,

> Caroline G.

>

>

> From: agirlnamedsuess21 <agirlnamedsuess@...>

> Reply-< <mailto:%40> >

> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:39:07 +0000

> < <mailto:%40> >

> Subject: Re: Genetic Testing

>

>

> A doctor who does not believe in the value of gentic studies and genetic

> testing does not seem like a very good doctor to me.

> Of course, that is *my* opinion, but genetics play a major role in the

> outcome of our own selves. What we choose to do with our genetic health

> history, enviromentally, can change the outcome of a person.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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The epigenetics info is excellent and I certainly support Dr Goldberg in

his view as I feel it describes what occurred for two of my children who do

not have ASD but language impairment. I feel very frustrated by the

overwhelming ignorance directed towards parents from some professionals who

make

statements (and commit such views to paper with damaging consequences) about

linkage 'obviously' being genetic! The linkage is not proven and although

genetic research is ongoing it is still sold to parents as being proven.

I recently had the misfortune to expose my young son to such professional

ignorance and without any reference to evidence her opening statement to me

post assessment was 'well of course it is genetic' and all on the basis of

a one hour relationship and her knowing that his older brother had a

language impairment. Not surprisingly her subsequent report included negatives

which don't apply i.e. working memory/phonemic awareness and more besides and

what had me hopping mad was the fact that these areas are actually

strengths for him as verified by other standardised testing and the fact that

he

is an age appropriate reader but of course as I wanted an unbiased view I

did not supply them in advance so she was free to go with her bias.She also

claimed his school appeared to be meeting his need despite seeing no

evidence or offering evidence to support this view and she concluded with a

recommendation for intensive SLT when he is actually in a school (in her view

meeting his need) where SLT is integral to the school day! Imagine all that on

the basis of 'proven genetics'!

The medical world is geared to genetics and of course it is crucial to gain

a better understanding of the underlying causes of neurological conditions

but contain it where it belongs until it is proven and can provide a

constructive use for our children.

In a message dated 26/04/2010 15:38:20 GMT Daylight Time, sfglover@...

writes:

Hi ,

I haven¹t discussed Amy Yasko with Dr. G., but have discussed genetics with

him.

If there is a clear genetic link to something (i.e. Down Syndrome), he¹s

not

going to deny that.

He feels that autism¹s secrets more likely lie within epigenetics

(triggers

switching genes on and off) rather than regular genetics. And then there¹s

the whole retroviral issue.

My guess is that he does not feel that the science is ³hard² enough behind

what she is doing.

He is constantly talking to researchers, etc. seeking out the the best

science that can apply to our kids. He was talking with the Whittemore

Institute before they ever published. I honestly don¹t know how he

finds these people.

I know Dr. Yasko uses chelation, which Dr. Goldberg is very opposed to. He

feels that chelation can cause permanent damage. His opinion comes both

from studies and his experience in working with children in his care who

have previously been chelated. He says they just don¹t improve as well. He

feels so strongly about it that he has said he won¹t see a child who is

being chelated.

It just comes down to the fact that these two doctors have a very different

view of things.

There are a couple of things on her site that made me uncomfortable when

skimming through it.

I don¹t like that you have to buy things directly from her store. I realize

that the products she recommends may not be available other places, but it

still bothers me.

She comments that ³Your genetics will never change, so the results of this

test will be applicable throughout your entire life.² That¹s just not true,

because throughout our lifetimes there are epigenetic switches turning on

and off. She does discuss epigenetics somewhere else on her site, so I

don¹t know why she makes that statement. I mean, yes, our genes don¹t

change, but the activation of those genes does change and therefore their

functions change.

I¹m more comfortable with Dr. Goldberg. Others are more comfortable with

Dr. Yasko. I don¹t fault those who take their children to her... we all do

what we think is best for our kids (most would give everything we have to

make them well)... and I think most of us pray for all of the children

every

day.

HTH,

Caroline G.

From: agirlnamedsuess21 <_agirlnamedsuess@agirlnameds_

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:39:07 +0000

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A doctor who does not believe in the value of gentic studies and genetic

testing does not seem like a very good doctor to me.

Of course, that is *my* opinion, but genetics play a major role in the

outcome of our own selves. What we choose to do with our genetic health

history, enviromentally, can change the outcome of a person.

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Does anyone have a list of genetics testing that should be done on asd kids?

It would be helpful to know what exactly we are treating (or not treating)

before giving them drugs to treat things that may or may not be there. We

need to be educated and rule out certain things in children (or adults) with

ASD in order to properly treat them.

Re: [sPAM] Re: Re: Genetic Testing

Genetics is important

please take in consideration the 10-20% of children considered autistic but

having

Phelan-McDermid Syndrome (22q13 deletion).This is strictly genetic.

Ami

Re: Genetic Testing

A doctor who does not believe in the value of gentic studies and genetic

testing does not seem like a very good doctor to me.

Of course, that is *my* opinion, but genetics play a major role in the

outcome of our own selves. What we choose to do with our genetic health

history, enviromentally, can change the outcome of a person.

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Look for a geneticist in your area. Do you have a neurologist? Ours is who

referred us to our geneticist. My advice is to have as much paperwork for past

evals and doctor’s visits as possible so they have a lot to go on. I would

suggested one of the more sensitive newer tests. My son came back ok on the

first older test but they found his duplication with the microarray test. Good

luck!

From:

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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:33 PM

Subject: [ ] Genetic testing

Hello,

I want to do genetic testing for my son, I am looking for any information on

where to get this done, and should we ask any specific questions or concerns

with the test?

thanks,

RP

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Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 8:22:46 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: flying with NV

aren't those great! it mixes way better than my blender ever did. I just bring

a baggie with NV and a small amount of hot chocolate mix (only use a teaspoon of

that)

and make his " hot chocolate " that way. I put a tsp of hot chocolate mix, hot

water to blend, add mostly milk, then add the NV and blend away. works like a

charm.

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>

<mailto: %40>

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:03:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: flying with NV

I have one of those IKEA milk frother blender and I love it. So that is going.

>

> we're flying to NY for a wedding. Anyone have any tips about traveling with NV

and what is the best way to pack it?

> Liralen

>

> PS I wasn't going to take it, so I didn't give it to him one day to see how it

went. He woke up at 2:30AM and never went back to sleep. You can believe he got

NV for breakfast!!

> L

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