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It will be interesting to see how quickly (or even whether) this gets

put into practice by the " local " oncologists. It is always shocking

how long it takes for these changes to trickle down to those who are

not CML specialists. I am sure we all remember posts of people placed

on a defunct " recommended starting dose " , or not being tested

regularly for PCR et al, by oncologists who only have a couple of CML

patients and don't keep up on the latest.

I also wonder whether the issue of price (not to mention marketing by

the drug companies) will impact the decision of doctors more than

which drug will have the better results....

Leah

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I don't believe that Sprycel has yet replaced Gleevec when it comes to treating

newly diagnosed patients.

What has changed is that doctors now have a choice as to which drug can be

prescribed to a newly diagnosed patient.

Previous to Sprycel's approval as front line treatment, doctors could only

prescribe the drug when a patient was found to be resistant or intolerant to

Gleevec. The same goes for Tasigna.

All three drugs (Gleevec, Tasigna, Sprycel) can now be prescribed to a newly

diagnosed patient.

Personally I think that doctors will continue to prescribe Gleevec to newly

diagnosed patients only because it has the longest track record for safety and

efficacy and it is in fact the cheapest of the three.

Tracey

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> It will be interesting to see how quickly (or even whether) this gets

> put into practice by the " local " oncologists. It is always shocking

> how long it takes for these changes to trickle down to those who are

> not CML specialists. I am sure we all remember posts of people placed

> on a defunct " recommended starting dose " , or not being tested

> regularly for PCR et al, by oncologists who only have a couple of CML

> patients and don't keep up on the latest.

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> I also wonder whether the issue of price (not to mention marketing by

> the drug companies) will impact the decision of doctors more than

> which drug will have the better results....

>

> Leah

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> Personally I think that doctors will continue to prescribe Gleevec to newly

diagnosed patients only because it has the longest track record for safety and

efficacy and it is in fact the cheapest of the three.

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> Tracey

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Hi Tracey,

I asked Dr. Druker that exact question when I just saw him in early

Sept...... " what drug do you use for a newly diagnosed cml patient now that 3

drugs are approved? "

He said: " I can tell you what I did because I recently had 2 newly diagnosed

cml patients. The first one I put on Tasigna. I want to see the leukemic load

reduced as quickly as possible (my insert, to prevent the possibility of

mutations when there are a lot of ph+ cells), but she is young and I might not

want her on this drug long term because we are seeing some elevated glucose with

this drug and I do not want her to develop diabetes.......when she has a good

level of response (hopefully MMR) then I might switch her to Gleevec for

maintenance.

The second patient was a truck driver and when we explained the dosing schedule

for Tasigna, he said that was impossible for him. (twice a day and the 3 hrs of

fasting)......so I put him on Gleevec because I was afraid he would skip doses

of Tasigna. "

So, apparently Dr. Druker is choosing between Tasigna and Gleevec. I think maybe

he has seen too many issues with pleural effusion to make that a first choice

for him (I am one of his patients with multiple bouts of PE).

This option of starting on the more potent 2nd generation drugs (Tasigna or

Sprycel) for initial treatment until a good response is obtained, then switching

to Gleevec was also expressed in the article in Cure magazine that I was quoting

before....and I think that was from interviewing Dr. Kantarjian, another cml

expert. Especially when Gleevec becomes generic and the cost is so much less.

But as it stands right now in the US, some health insurances might require a

patient to use a generic before being prescribed a specialty drug (and it sounds

like this would not be the choice of these cml experts).

C.

I also did read either here (? from Lottie) or on ACOR cml that they are

recognizing a subset of cml patients that are more likely to develop a mutation,

and they are developing and/or testing a test for that....and that this might

determine what cml drug a patient is put on first.

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