Bacteria

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In a message dated 5/8/01 12:47:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Curepdd@... writes:

<< I heard there might be " gut bugs " , or Klebsiella (as the

sulphur might be feeding this bacteria) IS is harmful to treat for this

if the child does not have it? >>

I can't answer this question but did want to tell you that our son tested

positive for Klebsiella and it says on the test results to use Uva-Ursi as a

natural substance. Dr. Holmes told us the best way to get rid of this is to

crowd it out with Culturelle and if I were you, I'd go ahead and at least do

the Culturelle which couldn't hurt.

Jo (South Carolina)

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I am glad this topic came up, I was going to post...My son was doing

very well in the beginning of chelation, we saw immediate progress after

adding ALA, but recently (within the past 3 weeks) he has regressed

terribly. I heard there might be " gut bugs " , or Klebsiella (as the

sulphur might be feeding this bacteria) IS is harmful to treat for this

if the child does not have it? If the tests take a while to come back,

will the bacteria to irriversable damage? My DAN Dr. will not be back

from vacation until Monday, so if anyone has any ideas...is there any

natural remedy to fight Klebsiella that is harmless if it is not the

case??? Thanks -Shari

cecilia berger wrote:

> From: Nomoremetals@...

> Subject: Re: ‘Klebsiella Pneumonia’ –

> pathogenic bacteria.

>

> Whatever you choose to treat with, it's very

> important not to give beneficial

> bacteria supplements that contain FOS.

> Klebsiella love FOS and will grow

> like crazy with it. We learned this the hard

> way.

> Gaylen

>

> To Gaylen,

> I'm glad this subject came up again. We recently ran a Great Smokies

> stool test in our attempt to get ready for chelation. Because some on

>

> the list have reported regression when adding the ALA, I wanted to be

> proactive and know what my son had ahead of time. Although we only

> just

> received the faxed copy, it did show both good and bad bacteria.

> Since

> you seem to be good in this department, have you ever heard of

> saccharomyces cerevisiae? It says that may be responsible for thrush

> and vaginitis, which automatically makes me think YEAST. I still have

>

> to see the hard copy of the results, but in the meantime, what do you

> think?

> Thanks,

> Cece

>

>

>

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Oh GOOD, just ordered it from Kirkmans!!!!!!!! Uva Ursi? Will have to

look into that!

JPiker@... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/8/01 12:47:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> Curepdd@... writes:

>

> << I heard there might be " gut bugs " , or Klebsiella (as the

> sulphur might be feeding this bacteria) IS is harmful to treat for

> this

> if the child does not have it? >>

>

> I can't answer this question but did want to tell you that our son

> tested

> positive for Klebsiella and it says on the test results to use

> Uva-Ursi as a

> natural substance. Dr. Holmes told us the best way to get rid of this

> is to

> crowd it out with Culturelle and if I were you, I'd go ahead and at

> least do

> the Culturelle which couldn't hurt.

>

> Jo (South Carolina)

>

>

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In a message dated 5/8/01 4:28:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

cecebe@... writes:

> have you ever heard of

> saccharomyces cerevisiae? It says that may be responsible for thrush

> and vaginitis, which automatically makes me think YEAST.

Never heard of it. I imagine they'll run a sensativity test for a variety of

things that you could use to get rid of it. Good luck

Gaylen

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We used Uva Ursi successfully on Klebsiella Pnumonaie as well.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

--

Saccharomyces cerevisiae is the bioengineered yeast (cloned yeast)

that Merck Manufacturer engineered for the Hepatitis B vaccine

all our babies were given. I believe it was a cloning nightmare!

Look it up on merck vaccines and look for vaccinebynet and

you'll read it in the prescribing info under the hep b.

It was a cloned yeast like our body has or baker's yeast.

Kerri

- In @y..., Nomoremetals@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/8/01 4:28:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

> cecebe@b... writes:

>

>

> > have you ever heard of

> > saccharomyces cerevisiae? It says that may be responsible for

thrush

> > and vaginitis, which automatically makes me think YEAST.

>

> Never heard of it. I imagine they'll run a sensativity test for a

variety of

> things that you could use to get rid of it. Good luck

> Gaylen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kerri,

Could you PLEASE repost the MERCK site you put out a couple of weeks ago. Very

valuable info and lost it all, Thanks,

[ ] Re: bacteria

--

Saccharomyces cerevisiae is the bioengineered yeast (cloned yeast)

that Merck Manufacturer engineered for the Hepatitis B vaccine

all our babies were given. I believe it was a cloning nightmare!

Look it up on merck vaccines and look for vaccinebynet and

you'll read it in the prescribing info under the hep b.

It was a cloned yeast like our body has or baker's yeast.

Kerri

- In @y..., Nomoremetals@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/8/01 4:28:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

> cecebe@b... writes:

>

>

> > have you ever heard of

> > saccharomyces cerevisiae? It says that may be responsible for

thrush

> > and vaginitis, which automatically makes me think YEAST.

>

> Never heard of it. I imagine they'll run a sensativity test for a

variety of

> things that you could use to get rid of it. Good luck

> Gaylen

>

>

>

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In a message dated 2/5/04 5:49:54 PM, cynditk@... writes:

<< I wanted to know about treating for bacteria >>

For my son, oil of oregano works very well. It's strong, so start with just a

drop...

Nell

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> Hi all,

> I wanted to know about treating for bacteria.

I used Culturelle when my son had bacteria problems.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Yes, Plant tannins are very strong. I used a product called Tanalbit

to kill off that same bacteria. I first tried the Uva Ursi and it did work

but left me exhausted because it is a strong diuretic.

Liz D.

Re: bacteria

My son's stool analysis always shows that his bacteria is susceptible

to Uva Ursi and to Oil of Oregano, as well as plant tannins, which

are contained in Biocidin. We have had a lot of luck with the

Biocidin, but it must be used sparingly, it is very strong. Kim

>

> Hello,

> Can you all please tell me what to use to treat bacteria?

> Thanks

>

> Vinutha

>

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Hello,

Can you all please tell me what to use to treat bacteria?

Thanks

Vinutha

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>>>> Can you all please tell me what to use to treat bacteria?

The general treatment would be:

- an anti-biotic plus

- protease enzymes

It is the synergistic combination of both that is most effective. The

enzymes can also help reduce die-off symptoms.

The anti-biotic can be prescription or over the counter. There are

different treatments for different types of bacteria. Do you know

which species you are dealing with? I used colloidal silver for the

colon/clostridia bacteria. An prescription one would be something

like axocillian.

The enzyme product should be any strong protease (like Peptizdye,

bromelain, Repair, etc).

.

http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionbacteriaresearch.htm

[Guest guest]

My son's stool analysis always shows that his bacteria is susceptible

to Uva Ursi and to Oil of Oregano, as well as plant tannins, which

are contained in Biocidin. We have had a lot of luck with the

Biocidin, but it must be used sparingly, it is very strong. Kim

>

> Hello,

> Can you all please tell me what to use to treat bacteria?

> Thanks

>

> Vinutha

>

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Works for us We use the regular, have heard good reports on the new

advanced formula too Give some Pep between meals as well as with food, we

have

always used the regular Pep not AFP (becuase there was no AFP when we started

and Sam is used to the taste)

Mandi in UK

> what about biocidin and peptizyde? Would this treat bacteria?

>

[Guest guest]

what about biocidin and peptizyde? Would this treat bacteria?

> >>>> Can you all please tell me what to use to treat bacteria?

>

> The general treatment would be:

>

> - an anti-biotic plus

> - protease enzymes

>

> It is the synergistic combination of both that is most effective.

The

> enzymes can also help reduce die-off symptoms.

>

> The anti-biotic can be prescription or over the counter. There are

> different treatments for different types of bacteria. Do you know

> which species you are dealing with? I used colloidal silver for

the

> colon/clostridia bacteria. An prescription one would be something

> like axocillian.

>

> The enzyme product should be any strong protease (like Peptizdye,

> bromelain, Repair, etc).

>

> .

>

> http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionbacteriaresearch.htm

[Guest guest]

I'd be inclined to try some GSE diluted in water as a mouthwash first to see

if thats works. I use it for a gargel if I get a sore throart and thats

usually the last I remember of it LOL. I use about 15 drops in a glass of water

and

spit it after.

Mandi in UK

> It is the bacteria in the mouth causing gum disease. The doctor has

> prescribed antibiotics but I would like/prefer to use a natural or herbel

> with less side effects.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/25/2004 6:33:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Mum231ASD@... writes:

> I'd be inclined to try some GSE diluted in water as a mouthwash first to

> see

> if thats works. I use it for a gargel if I get a sore throart and thats

> usually the last I remember of it LOL. I use about 15 drops in a glass of

> water and

> spit it after.

>

I did this very thing last night and it worked like magic! Sore throat

disappeared completely.

Nell

[Guest guest]

hello,

It is the bacteria in the mouth causing gum disease. The doctor has

prescribed antibiotics but I would like/prefer to use a natural or herbel

with less side effects.

Thanks

vinutha

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:46:47 -0000 " jornmatt " <kjorn@...>

writes:

> >>>> Can you all please tell me what to use to treat bacteria?

>

> The general treatment would be:

>

> - an anti-biotic plus

> - protease enzymes

>

> It is the synergistic combination of both that is most effective.

> The

> enzymes can also help reduce die-off symptoms.

>

> The anti-biotic can be prescription or over the counter. There are

> different treatments for different types of bacteria. Do you know

> which species you are dealing with? I used colloidal silver for the

>

> colon/clostridia bacteria. An prescription one would be something

> like axocillian.

>

> The enzyme product should be any strong protease (like Peptizdye,

> bromelain, Repair, etc).

>

> .

>

> http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionbacteriaresearch.htm

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i take it you have amalgams?

zinc iodine and selenium as per my web page are what builds thyroid

hormones.

its so easy compared to the hell of medical thyroid hormones i just

shake my head as this advice is consistently ignored.

iodine i think also helps remove mercury. lithium is need to spread

the iodine.

germanium again as per my web page helps with viruses.

your son is most likely depeleted in a spectrum of minerals frrm the

chelation.

i would not use the lef optizinc at all.

power magentic filed exposure is a surprising source of viral

weakness.

> In a message dated 3/25/2004 6:33:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Mum231ASD@a... writes:

>

> > I'd be inclined to try some GSE diluted in water as a mouthwash

first to

> > see

> > if thats works. I use it for a gargel if I get a sore throart and

thats

> > usually the last I remember of it LOL. I use about 15 drops in a

glass of

> > water and

> > spit it after.

> >

>

> I did this very thing last night and it worked like magic! Sore

throat

> disappeared completely.

>

> Nell

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Clove oil works well. But make sure you dilute it in something as pure

clove oil is very strong and will burn - dilute in alcohol, water? or olive

oil. Also oak bark is good for healing gums. Check to see what you can get

a the health shop that has either or both in it.

Abby

Re: bacteria

hello,

It is the bacteria in the mouth causing gum disease. The doctor has

prescribed antibiotics but I would like/prefer to use a natural or herbel

with less side effects.

Thanks

vinutha

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:46:47 -0000 " jornmatt " <kjorn@...>

writes:

> >>>> Can you all please tell me what to use to treat bacteria?

>

> The general treatment would be:

>

> - an anti-biotic plus

> - protease enzymes

>

> It is the synergistic combination of both that is most effective.

> The

> enzymes can also help reduce die-off symptoms.

>

> The anti-biotic can be prescription or over the counter. There are

> different treatments for different types of bacteria. Do you know

> which species you are dealing with? I used colloidal silver for the

>

> colon/clostridia bacteria. An prescription one would be something

> like axocillian.

>

> The enzyme product should be any strong protease (like Peptizdye,

> bromelain, Repair, etc).

>

> .

>

> http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionbacteriaresearch.htm

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 5/1/2004 12:04:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

KANDERSON13@... writes:

> I thought I would try Biocidin or Uva Ursi. Any idea if I will run

> into the same reaction to these as far as needing NF with them?

I use Biocidin with NF, it works very well long and slow -- right now, 2

drops 2X day for about 3 weeks.

Is there a reason you're not using NF?

Nell

[Guest guest]

Hi, Nell. Thanks for the response.

Well, the reason we are not on the NF yet, is because we just

switched over to HNI enzymes in Feb/March, I think. I wanted to

change one thing at a time and then came the Prevacid, the cellulose

in the enzymes, and I think we are holding the yeast at bay with GSE

every once in a while, and now an issue with his probiotic. So, you

see, I haven't gotten back around to the NF yet, but I will. I know

it will do more for my son if he takes it, instead of sitting on the

shelf!!!

I will look into the Biocidin ingredients to see if he might be able

to tolerate it. He is just so sensitive to everything.

a

> In a message dated 5/1/2004 12:04:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> KANDERSON13@n... writes:

>

> > I thought I would try Biocidin or Uva Ursi. Any idea if I will

run

> > into the same reaction to these as far as needing NF with them?

>

> I use Biocidin with NF, it works very well long and slow -- right

now, 2

> drops 2X day for about 3 weeks.

>

> Is there a reason you're not using NF?

>

> Nell

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I used Culterelle for my daughter. Her stools were dark, pasty, and

had horrible smell which made me decide it must be bacteria. She had

also gone through some constipation issues.

Best Wishes

Becky

> After weeks of discussion on this site and constantly checking my

> daughters " poo " I have finally come to the conclusion that she

> suffers with " bacteria " ....only because her poo is slight yellow in

> colour (although well formed) but the last couple of poo's have

> really smelt. I have to admit though, not always do her poo smell,

> but they have the last couple of days (or could it be due to hot

> weather??).

>

> Now that I believe she suffers with bacteria issues, what is the

> best way to help clear this up?????? I hope once this problem is

> sorted out she will stop head banging (as this hasn't happened

using

> the enzymes).

[Guest guest]

> After weeks of discussion on this site and constantly checking my

> daughters " poo " I have finally come to the conclusion that she

> suffers with " bacteria " ....

For my kids, bacteria was black liquid diarrhea that smelled like

battery acid. I used Culturelle and that worked very well for us.

Some people use colloidal silver for 10 days with good results.

Other ideas

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

Christene,

I am sorry that you feel so awful....but at least with a name for

this bacteria, you have hope for treatment, right?

What is the next step?

Patty

>

>

> Hello Ladies,

>

> The lab results show which bacteria it is specifically. It starts

with

> an " A " I don't have the exact spelling as of yet, but will keep

you

> posted. I'm feeling like crap with nausea, fever etc. I just

want to

> crawl underneath the blankets...

>