hi all

March 27, 2006

I was going to see about getting one. A friend told me about that to.My husband has been great though all this.Im just not sure if i can come up with $600 but WHen we think we cant do it God seem to provide.

Right now im going to go and get ozone sauna done at the spa i use to work at. But it would be great to have a sauna at home and i can take it will me where ever i go.

I was wondering how long have you been doing the makers diet?

I think i was reading that your in pain.Just a suggestion have you ever tried arnica montana. or surgical tone that Dr kolb sells.That can knock out pain and help with swelling and help with healing to.

My husband grandma has cancer pancreas cancer and has moved to her liver ,lung,and brain. The doctor gave her 3 months to live.Well she has been doing good 2 1/2 years she has made it. she does the maker diet and some of the supplements to. she also does a tea that has really helped her immune system. The tea is called essiac tea by flora is is called flor essense www.florahealth.com you can make your own tea or already made up .Kids can even drink it for building immune system up. I got some and know many people that use it and it really helps for fighting cancer and helping the body gentle detox all the organs. It is great for anything thing that is going on in the body.

I will be praying for you and hope you feel better.

god bless michele

From: Rogene S <saxony01@...>Reply- To: Subject: RE: Re: hi allDate: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:00:51 -0800 (PST)Miclele,Any chance you could get hold of an infrared sauna? .. . It can really help with detoxing! . . . Something on the order of 15% of sweat generated byinfrared heat is cholestrol or toxins.I found that my MCS gradually disappeared . . . I onlyreact to big exposures now.Hugs,Rogene--- michele Wininger <sea_shell81@...> wrote:---------------------------------Hi cherie ,the symptoms.Well i had problems withheadaches,migraines,ear infections,stomachproblems,memory problems,mood swings bad anddepression. I had alot of these problems beforeimplants. But i wasnt eating right always on the go.Ialso was a hairdresser and did nails to.I know alot ofmy problems started there.Then i got implants so ikept over loading my body. As soon as i startingeating right and taking care of my body i didnt haveheadaches,migraine s,ear infections,depression moodswings i felt werent as bad.The only problems i seemto have is chemical sensitive.I was sensitive to smellmy whole life.But wow ive never had brain fog.I gotthat in june 2005 when i took on a cleaning job andeven using all nontoxic cleaner.It was the peopleperfume and cleaning a gym that put me over the edge.Now i cant handle anything.i can smell something amile away and seem to get affected by it. One thing myhusband say dont claim chemical sensitivies.ask god totake it from you.But you know i think he hasnt takenit from me because he teaching me to trust him andteaching me so many other things to.I can stillfunction with everyday life. Some people say i appearto not have any problems. I dont seem like i havebrain fog.But come in my head .I just thought aboutthis my brain fog has gotten worse over the lastcouple weeks.I really think eating organic and not eating whiteflour and sugar is a must to get better .Sugar is likea poison in the body and my body cant handle it at all.Even maple syrup i react to at time.So honey andstevia is my best bet.I really try to follow phase 1in the maker diet .This diet is a lifestyle change.so are you doing to get better?Who explanted you? I know one thing by getting all toxic products out ofmy life like cleaners,facial products,soaps all thathas helped me alot to. Ive been looking at all thathas happened as a blessing .I dont think i would beeating healthly doing all the nontoxic or organicproducts if this didnt happen to me. I use to be sonegative .I have a new outlook on life. Ive met alotof great people on my journey. Im very greatful forthat. When you think a door closes another always seemto open.My grandma use to say to me shelly walk byfaith not by sight.well it stuck with me im walking byfaith not sight.My husband said to me after i got my implants out wowwhat a differents.The mood swings i dont have.I dealwith things so much differently even when i have a badday. It like im a different person all around. I hope i answered your question. My head is fuzzytoday.Today i plan to eat right ,drink lots of waterand get lots of fresh air and sunshine. The computerreally messes with me head. ughgod bless michele ---------------------------------From: "Cherie" <funhome2@...>Reply- To: Subject: Re: hi allDate: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:27:09 -0000Thank you so much for sharing your story. I wasexplanted five months ago and I need the hope that a story like yoursgives me. Can you tell me what your symptoms were beforeexplant? I'm so happy for you that you healed so quickly afterexplant. God Bless you,Cherie>> Hi all> My name is michele and ive been reading alot of yourpost.> On Jan 20 2006 i had my explant surgery by DR kolb.Ihad implants > for 10 years im 33 .It was the best thing ive everdone.I did have > some problems but since i followed the makers dietit seem to help > alot and my girls follow it to.I have a 3 1/2 yearold and a 20 > month old.They were brest feedto and show no signsof being sick. > Ive been doing the maker diet since i was pregnantwith both and > praise god i did.What would they be like if i didnt.Sure someday i > go oh my what did i do to my girl it bad enough idid this to me but > i have to look at it all as a blessing .Sure i humanand have > days.Through all this God has showed me so much. Today im alittle > brain fog.> I see alot of woman post about there kids and itmake me really > sad. I will pass this info on.It might helpsomeone.BUt my doctor > and Dr kolb said the makers diet has kept me and mygirls > healthier.I give them primaldefense(probitics),perfect food,cod > liver,goatein,super seed.They have never had > medicine ,vaccination .I dont use any chemicals inmy house just > vinegar or seventh generation or earth friendly.Im anontoxic > organic girl.Due to my chemical sensitives. I alsochoose to live > this way. I have friend say im extreme.I know Godcan heal us from > anything .But this is what i choose to do.> Where was i going with this.well I just wanted totell you about my > surgery and how ive healed.> I was very impressed with Dr kolb she is a hardworking woman.I love > her staff.dr mike is great to if any of you go to Drkolb he can > help with angry ,pain and issue in your life,trauma,even allergys.I > had alot of angry with the implants. I dont know ifany of you lady > have heard of EFT or TFT Dr mike does somethinglike that and > naet here the websites www.emofree.com www.tftrx.com > www.naet.com I even do this on my daughter.I sorecommend it. > I did alot of detoxing and eating right beforesurgery and after.I > agree with the sugar thing. It is a must. > One thing thathelped with healing and getting mebetter is i took > alot of primal defense .I did powdered so i took 6scoops a day > before my surgery and after. The doctor said toincrease it so i > would get the medicine out of my body after surgeryand it would > keep me strong.I agree with that it put allthe goodbacteria back in > the body so your body can fight. FYI helped withpain and infection > in my breast even helps with brain fog and Rm10.Jordan says > FYi,Rm10 and primal defense all together help fightanything. i took > seasonal relief for alittle before my surgery andthen 7 days > after.It help the immune to.I didnt take anyantibitic after surgery > or anything Dr kolb told me in the medincine .I toldher i knew what > to do and this is what i wanted to do. She said thatwas fine. Not > many Doctors will do that. My other doctor is likethat to.I did > have a bad breast infection Dr kolb said but it wasgone whe nshe > got in there she said i had alot of scar tissue. > other things that helped my was perfectfood,digestive enzymes,i > also do raw apple cider vinegar 3 times a day.garlicbest antiobitic > you can get i did alot of and parsley.> yerba mate tea i do sometime and komboocha,kefir> I never had a pain pump or took any pain meds.I usedsurgical tone > from Dr kolb office homeopathy helped so much andhelped with > sweeling,bruising and pain. I could even lay on myside after > surgery and in 5 days after drains were out i couldlay on my > stomach.I found that out when i had a appointmentwith Dr mike. I > must say i felt great after surgery. I think beingpositive helped > me to and God on my side to. I did alot of prayingand asking god > for guidance when i was in georgia.I went by myselfto. I needed > that time though.> > rescue remedy flower essense i used for awhile greatfor calming the > nerves to before surgery and i know some people dontlike to wait > and at Dr kolbs you do wait.But it open doors to somuch more > things.I got to talk to other woman and even met agirl that was > there thinking about getting breast implants. I meton woman i cant > get out of my mind melissa and she has a 3 yrs old.I keep wanting > to she how i can get ahold of her or give my info.She really > touched me.She was there in jan > For my scars i used a salve or calendula cream. istarting using it > right away. My scars look great. This cream is greatfor rashes to. > You can get burts bees or www.supersalve.com hasgreat stuff to.> here are some great website that helped me to fromJordan rubin new > book www.biblicalhealthinstitute.com just sign init free 7 steps > to wellness. www.mercola.com has help me alot to.> thank you all for your stories and getting the wordout.> sometime i thought about yesterday.YOu all know themovie erin > brokovich well she has implants.I wonder if she knowall the > problems .I was thinking i wondering if she couldhelp us to.If she > knew. WHo knows > god bless you all michele w>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place ofadvice given by licensed health care professionals.Consult your physician or licensed health careprofessional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or thepoliticians mislead you. Find out what the facts are,and make your own decisions about how to live a happylife and how to work for a better world." - Linusing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;1963, Peace)See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access atthis link:http://.shutterfly.com/action/

March 27, 2006

I just bought a portable infrared sauna on ebay for only $197.50. It was "like new still in box". I have used it twice and I am amazed at how much sweat came out. I usually use the dry sauna at the gym, I think I sweated at least 3 times as much with the infrared. If you don't have one yet, keep checking ebay! LRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Miclele,Any chance you could get hold of an infrared sauna? .. . It can really help with detoxing! . . . Something on the order of 15% of sweat generated byinfrared heat is cholestrol or toxins.I found that my MCS gradually disappeared . . . I onlyreact to big exposures now.Hugs,Rogene--- michele Wininger <sea_shell81@...>

wrote:---------------------------------Hi cherie ,the symptoms.Well i had problems withheadaches,migraines,ear infections,stomachproblems,memory problems,mood swings bad anddepression. I had alot of these problems beforeimplants. But i wasnt eating right always on the go.Ialso was a hairdresser and did nails to.I know alot ofmy problems started there.Then i got implants so ikept over loading my body. As soon as i startingeating right and taking care of my body i didnt haveheadaches,migraine s,ear infections,depression moodswings i felt werent as bad.The only problems i seemto have is chemical sensitive.I was sensitive to smellmy whole life.But wow ive never had brain fog.I gotthat in june 2005 when i took on a cleaning job andeven using all nontoxic cleaner.It was the peopleperfume and cleaning a gym that put me over the edge.Now i cant handle anything.i can smell something amile away

and seem to get affected by it. One thing myhusband say dont claim chemical sensitivies.ask god totake it from you.But you know i think he hasnt takenit from me because he teaching me to trust him andteaching me so many other things to.I can stillfunction with everyday life. Some people say i appearto not have any problems. I dont seem like i havebrain fog.But come in my head .I just thought aboutthis my brain fog has gotten worse over the lastcouple weeks.I really think eating organic and not eating whiteflour and sugar is a must to get better .Sugar is likea poison in the body and my body cant handle it at all.Even maple syrup i react to at time.So honey andstevia is my best bet.I really try to follow phase 1in the maker diet .This diet is a lifestyle change.so are you doing to get better?Who explanted you? I know one thing by getting all toxic products out ofmy life like cleaners,facial

products,soaps all thathas helped me alot to. Ive been looking at all thathas happened as a blessing .I dont think i would beeating healthly doing all the nontoxic or organicproducts if this didnt happen to me. I use to be sonegative .I have a new outlook on life. Ive met alotof great people on my journey. Im very greatful forthat. When you think a door closes another always seemto open.My grandma use to say to me shelly walk byfaith not by sight.well it stuck with me im walking byfaith not sight.My husband said to me after i got my implants out wowwhat a differents.The mood swings i dont have.I dealwith things so much differently even when i have a badday. It like im a different person all around. I hope i answered your question. My head is fuzzytoday.Today i plan to eat right ,drink lots of waterand get lots of fresh air and sunshine. The computerreally messes with me head. ughgod bless michele

---------------------------------From: "Cherie" <funhome2@...>Reply- To: Subject: Re: hi allDate: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:27:09 -0000Thank you so much for sharing your story. I wasexplanted five months ago and I need the hope that a story like yoursgives me. Can you tell me what your symptoms were beforeexplant? I'm so happy for you that you healed so quickly afterexplant. God Bless you,Cherie>> Hi all> My name is michele and ive been reading alot of yourpost.> On Jan 20 2006 i had my explant surgery by DR kolb.Ihad implants > for 10 years im 33 .It was the best thing ive everdone.I did have > some problems but since i followed the makers

dietit seem to help > alot and my girls follow it to.I have a 3 1/2 yearold and a 20 > month old.They were brest feedto and show no signsof being sick. > Ive been doing the maker diet since i was pregnantwith both and > praise god i did.What would they be like if i didnt.Sure someday i > go oh my what did i do to my girl it bad enough idid this to me but > i have to look at it all as a blessing .Sure i humanand have > days.Through all this God has showed me so much. Today im alittle > brain fog.> I see alot of woman post about there kids and itmake me really > sad. I will pass this info on.It might helpsomeone.BUt my doctor > and Dr kolb said the makers diet has kept me and mygirls > healthier.I give them primaldefense(probitics),perfect food,cod > liver,goatein,super seed.They have never had > medicine ,vaccination .I dont

use any chemicals inmy house just > vinegar or seventh generation or earth friendly.Im anontoxic > organic girl.Due to my chemical sensitives. I alsochoose to live > this way. I have friend say im extreme.I know Godcan heal us from > anything .But this is what i choose to do.> Where was i going with this.well I just wanted totell you about my > surgery and how ive healed.> I was very impressed with Dr kolb she is a hardworking woman.I love > her staff.dr mike is great to if any of you go to Drkolb he can > help with angry ,pain and issue in your life,trauma,even allergys.I > had alot of angry with the implants. I dont know ifany of you lady > have heard of EFT or TFT Dr mike does somethinglike that and > naet here the websites www.emofree.com www.tftrx.com >

www.naet.com I even do this on my daughter.I sorecommend it. > I did alot of detoxing and eating right beforesurgery and after.I > agree with the sugar thing. It is a must. > One thing thathelped with healing and getting mebetter is i took > alot of primal defense .I did powdered so i took 6scoops a day > before my surgery and after. The doctor said toincrease it so i > would get the medicine out of my body after surgeryand it would > keep me strong.I agree with that it put allthe goodbacteria back in > the body so your body can fight. FYI helped withpain and infection > in my breast even helps with brain fog and Rm10.Jordan says > FYi,Rm10 and primal defense all together help fightanything. i took > seasonal relief for alittle before my surgery andthen 7 days > after.It help the immune to.I didnt take anyantibitic

after surgery > or anything Dr kolb told me in the medincine .I toldher i knew what > to do and this is what i wanted to do. She said thatwas fine. Not > many Doctors will do that. My other doctor is likethat to.I did > have a bad breast infection Dr kolb said but it wasgone whe nshe > got in there she said i had alot of scar tissue. > other things that helped my was perfectfood,digestive enzymes,i > also do raw apple cider vinegar 3 times a day.garlicbest antiobitic > you can get i did alot of and parsley.> yerba mate tea i do sometime and komboocha,kefir> I never had a pain pump or took any pain meds.I usedsurgical tone > from Dr kolb office homeopathy helped so much andhelped with > sweeling,bruising and pain. I could even lay on myside after > surgery and in 5 days after drains were out i couldlay on my > stomach.I

found that out when i had a appointmentwith Dr mike. I > must say i felt great after surgery. I think beingpositive helped > me to and God on my side to. I did alot of prayingand asking god > for guidance when i was in georgia.I went by myselfto. I needed > that time though.> > rescue remedy flower essense i used for awhile greatfor calming the > nerves to before surgery and i know some people dontlike to wait > and at Dr kolbs you do wait.But it open doors to somuch more > things.I got to talk to other woman and even met agirl that was > there thinking about getting breast implants. I meton woman i cant > get out of my mind melissa and she has a 3 yrs old.I keep wanting > to she how i can get ahold of her or give my info.She really > touched me.She was there in jan > For my scars i used a salve or calendula cream. istarting using

it > right away. My scars look great. This cream is greatfor rashes to. > You can get burts bees or www.supersalve.com hasgreat stuff to.> here are some great website that helped me to fromJordan rubin new > book www.biblicalhealthinstitute.com just sign init free 7 steps > to wellness. www.mercola.com has help me alot to.> thank you all for your stories and getting the wordout.> sometime i thought about yesterday.YOu all know themovie erin > brokovich well she has implants.I wonder if she knowall the > problems .I was thinking i wondering if she couldhelp us to.If she > knew. WHo knows > god bless you all michele w>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place ofadvice given by licensed health care professionals.Consult your physician or licensed health

careprofessional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or thepoliticians mislead you. Find out what the facts are,and make your own decisions about how to live a happylife and how to work for a better world." - Linusing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;1963, Peace)See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access atthis link:http://.shutterfly.com/action/

March 27, 2006

I have a friend also who has a great testimony about the Flora

products helping her father...He had cancer and they traveled to

Canada to see an Indian nurse practioner and got the ingredient

listing for Essiac tea...this was before the Flora products came out

in marketed form, but it was the same recipe for the herbal Essiac

tea, and it cured her father's cancer. I was astounded when she

told me about it. He went on to live many more years!

Patty

----------------------You wrote:

I was going to see about getting one. A friend told me about that

to.My husband has been great though all this.Im just not sure if i

can come up with $600 but WHen we think we cant do it God seem to

provide.

Right now im going to go and get ozone sauna done at the spa i use

to work at. But it would be great to have a sauna at home and i can

take it will me where ever i go.

I was wondering how long have you been doing the makers diet?

I think i was reading that your in pain.Just a suggestion have you

ever tried arnica montana. or surgical tone that Dr kolb sells.That

can knock out pain and help with swelling and help with healing to.

My husband grandma has cancer pancreas cancer and has moved to her

liver ,lung,and brain. The doctor gave her 3 months to live.Well she

has been doing good 2 1/2 years she has made it. she does the maker

diet and some of the supplements to. she also does a tea that has

really helped her immune system. The tea is called essiac tea by

flora is is called flor essense www.florahealth.com you can

make your own tea or already made up .Kids can even drink it for

building immune system up. I got some and know many people that use

it and it really helps for fighting cancer and helping the body

gentle detox all the organs. It is great for anything thing that is

going on in the body.

I will be praying for you and hope you feel better.

god bless michele

March 27, 2006

Wow, am I surprised! I would have never thought to check on Ebay, but

it looks like they have some great prices on infrared saunas!

Patty

>

> I just bought a portable infrared sauna on ebay for only $197.50.

It was " like new still in box " . I have used it twice and I am amazed

at how much sweat came out. I usually use the dry sauna at the gym, I

think I sweated at least 3 times as much with the infrared.

>

> If you don't have one yet, keep checking ebay!

>

> L

>

March 27, 2006

yes ive heard many great things about this tea.And from seeing my husband grandma get through this cancer when people do die after 3 to 6 months.I just wish i would have bought the tea already made up so much easier for me. Im going to use this tea and use garden of life products. I know over time i will get better to.

I cant remember who posted about sauna on ebay i need to check that out. It would help me so much .I really need it when we go visit my mother in law.Im so out of it when we get back from being around everyone and im not looking foward to easter.But i did notice when i starting taking Fyi by garden of life i dealt with it all better and my brain fog really didnt seem to be there. I even had someone tell me about myrrh oil .You take it when you been exposed to chemicals and it get right in your blood stream and it helps with brain fog.I didnt have oil but pills and it does work and i took fyi to and wow it helped so much.

Oh thank for the info on rick warren new book. I think your the one that posted that.

I was wondering did everybody know you had implants ? Alot of people dont know i had them but i really want to talk about it with more people .I wanted some of my friend to pray for me.So what is the best way to go about that. Im not a shy person. I guess i was just alittle ashamed of myself.Ive just came out and talked to some people in my family about it. I really want to help and get the word out to.

god bless michele

From: "glory2glory1401" <glory2glory1401@...>Reply- To: Subject: Re: hi allDate: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:56:58 -0000I have a friend also who has a great testimony about the Flora products helping her father...He had cancer and they traveled to Canada to see an Indian nurse practioner and got the ingredient listing for Essiac tea...this was before the Flora products came out in marketed form, but it was the same recipe for the herbal Essiac tea, and it cured her father's cancer. I was astounded when she told me about it. He went on to live many more years!Patty----------------------You wrote:I was going to see about getting one. A friend told me about that to.My husband has been great though all this.Im just not sure if i can come up with $600 but WHen we think we cant do it God seem to provide.Right now im going to go and get ozone sauna done at the spa i use to work at. But it would be great to have a sauna at home and i can take it will me where ever i go.I was wondering how long have you been doing the makers diet? I think i was reading that your in pain.Just a suggestion have you ever tried arnica montana. or surgical tone that Dr kolb sells.That can knock out pain and help with swelling and help with healing to. My husband grandma has cancer pancreas cancer and has moved to her liver ,lung,and brain. The doctor gave her 3 months to live.Well she has been doing good 2 1/2 years she has made it. she does the maker diet and some of the supplements to. she also does a tea that has really helped her immune system. The tea is called essiac tea by flora is is called flor essense www.florahealth.com you can make your own tea or already made up .Kids can even drink it for building immune system up. I got some and know many people that use it and it really helps for fighting cancer and helping the body gentle detox all the organs. It is great for anything thing that is going on in the body.I will be praying for you and hope you feel better. god bless micheleOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:http://.shutterfly.com/action/

March 27, 2006

Michele,

You'll be surprised at how receptive most people are

when you tell them about your experience . . . That's

when you start finding out how many women, and

children are sick, while nobody has a clue. . . .

You'll be able to help more people than you can

imagine when you start sharing . . .

Don't be ashamed . . . The people who should be

ashamed are busy counting their money!

I'm going to check into the tea! . . . IMO, if it

can't hurt me, I'm game!

Hugs,

Rogene

March 28, 2006

Hi Michele,

I didn't tell very many people that I had implants, but I am sure

that it didn't take them long to figure it out. I told my family,

but not acquaintences.

I've been explanted for 8 years, but my opporunities to talk about

my breast implant experience are fairly constant. I have shared

with almost everyone that I get involved in conversation with

regarding health issues and health topics. It just naturally comes

up, and they are always shocked with the information. I am as

honest as I can be, and I believe many people are actually

interested in hearing our stories, because most know other women

with implants or someone who wants them.

Just a few days ago I shared my story with a couple we went to

dinner with. The woman asked for my website and has shared my story

with several others already...one who wants implants. So I know we

have to keep getting the word out. God will open the doors...and

you will know when to walk through them.

Michele, please don't be ashamed of yourself! You don't have to

feel that you did something wrong....you were not told the truth, as

none of us were. We may have been enticed by wrong desires, but

there is not a soul on this planet who hasn't fallen into that same

trap of being enticed by wrong desires...it just manifests in

different ways. There is no condemnation here, nor should there be.

Anyone who thinks otherwise would probably benefit from taking a

good long look in the mirror and practicing a bit of stark honesty.

We've all made mistakes in life.

Your story will have an impact on alot of people, so please continue

to share with others as you feel comfortable. You have learned alot

about health, and that is a very important subject! We are seeing a

true revolution in health care taking place because of people like

you and me who have found out that we CAN help ourselves overcome

challenges. Thank God we have doctors willing to stand with us,

like Dr. Mercola.

Patty

--------------------------you wrote:

yes ive heard many great things about this tea.And from seeing my

husband grandma get through this cancer when people do die after 3

to 6 months.I just wish i would have bought the tea already made up

so much easier for me. Im going to use this tea and use garden of

life products. I know over time i will get better to.

I cant remember who posted about sauna on ebay i need to check that

out. It would help me so much .I really need it when we go visit my

mother in law.Im so out of it when we get back from being around

everyone and im not looking foward to easter.But i did notice when i

starting taking Fyi by garden of life i dealt with it all better and

my brain fog really didnt seem to be there. I even had someone tell

me about myrrh oil .You take it when you been exposed to chemicals

and it get right in your blood stream and it helps with brain fog.I

didnt have oil but pills and it does work and i took fyi to and wow

it helped so much.

Oh thank for the info on rick warren new book. I think your the one

that posted that.

I was wondering did everybody know you had implants ? Alot of people

dont know i had them but i really want to talk about it with more

people .I wanted some of my friend to pray for me.So what is the

best way to go about that. Im not a shy person. I guess i was just

alittle ashamed of myself.Ive just came out and talked to some

people in my family about it. I really want to help and get the word

out to.

god bless michele

March 28, 2006

Thank you patty It amazing how you do get on the subject with people

about health or implants .God has been showing what to do with

everything.But you know what funny some people dont want to hear

about health but the whole implants story seems to open doors.

I think i was ashamed due to i did it for a boyfriend.I was even

angry at myself and him and the surgeon.But God had dealt with that

with me the angry part and going to Dr mike and doing TFT here to

has helped me so much.

Im really shocked how much we do put are trust in

doctor,surgeons,medicine.Most doctor wouldnt like me .i question

everything now.But i found a doctor that understand me.I told her i

will not do medicine.Just tell me whats going on.She says i know

what best for me and my girls .So she will tell me homeopathy or

herbal things to do. She is the best doctor ive found. She has even

taught about herbal and homeopathy .I need to get the tape.

Ive been searching for answers since i was in my 20 .I found doctors

are not God and they dont have all the answers.You have to trust

yourself sometime and God he will give you the answers.

Health is something that is my passion.I was thinking about this the

other day.All the jobs ive had is pretty much about helping people

feel better or look better.I use to be a hairdresser,then i did

facial and massage and worked at a spa and they taught about

nutrition. I miss working sometime.But God doing many great things

right now and my girls are young to.YOu so right when you think one

door closes one does opens.That is like when i first started just

reading the post here.I was overwhelmed and would get so sad and

upset and i couldnt come here.But god said michele you have a story

to and maybe you can help to.So now i feel different when i read the

post.

I even felt when i was at DR kolb like i was suppose to help .I ask

DR kolb do you teach about nutrition here or getting toxins out of

your environment .She said no she does tell woman what can help but

she cant do everything. That when i was like that would be a

perfect job for me. But i dont live there. I told elizabeth about

jordan rubin and she is seeing about getting him on Dr kolbs radio

show.

I know jordan website can teach people so much and its free

www.biblicalhealthinstitute.com and mercola website is great to .

I dont know if anybody can answer this but one thing i dont

understand and maybe i should ask Dr kolb myself.BUt why does Dr

Kolb have saline implants when she knows what she know and why does

she put implants in? There was a girl in Dr kolb office in jan and

by then i had my implants taken out. Well I ended up talking to her

about implants .It bothered me abit.i know DR kolb tell them what

can happen and all.But why put yourself thru that . SHe was 22 i

think and had a 1 yr old. Her mother has implants and has had them

for 15 yrs. I gave her ilena website. I pray she doesnt get them.

I know another girl that has implants and my husband works with her

and i tryed to talk to her about it but she seemed she didnt

care.She looks like she has alot of work done. I gave her alot of

info so maybe she will look but i pray not when its to late. I will

just have to keep praying about it.

I couldnt believe this happen to me.This was before i got my

implants out.I went and got a breast ultrasound.Well the girl that

did is had breast implants and she was so proud to.Well i told her i

was getting mine out.She goes arent you going to put them back

in .No i said .YOu will be so unhappy saggy boobs.So i spoke my mind

and she didnt like it. I was upset she was pushing implants on me

though .How many people has she told.My doctor was upset she did

this and told me to report her .So thats what im doing.

Today i told myself i will not be ashamed im human and yes we do

make mistakes.

" The prayer offered in faith will make the sick well " ( 5 :15)

There is power in prayer

This just came to me i know ive been telling you all about primal

defense probiotics well i was reading in a magazine they even have

been giving it to people wtih aids and what a turn around they have

had.So many diseases start with the gut if the guts not strong it

cant fight.Just like if your dont digest you food that how we get

disease to. That was one thing i learned in the beginning of my

health journey we need digestive enzymes and probiotics.

I better send this before i write a book

god bless michele

-- In , " glory2glory1401 "

<glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Michele,

> I didn't tell very many people that I had implants, but I am sure

> that it didn't take them long to figure it out. I told my family,

> but not acquaintences.

>

> I've been explanted for 8 years, but my opporunities to talk about

> my breast implant experience are fairly constant. I have shared

> with almost everyone that I get involved in conversation with

> regarding health issues and health topics. It just naturally

comes

> up, and they are always shocked with the information. I am as

> honest as I can be, and I believe many people are actually

> interested in hearing our stories, because most know other women

> with implants or someone who wants them.

>

> Just a few days ago I shared my story with a couple we went to

> dinner with. The woman asked for my website and has shared my

story

> with several others already...one who wants implants. So I know

we

> have to keep getting the word out. God will open the doors...and

> you will know when to walk through them.

>

> Michele, please don't be ashamed of yourself! You don't have to

> feel that you did something wrong....you were not told the truth,

as

> none of us were. We may have been enticed by wrong desires, but

> there is not a soul on this planet who hasn't fallen into that

same

> trap of being enticed by wrong desires...it just manifests in

> different ways. There is no condemnation here, nor should there

be.

> Anyone who thinks otherwise would probably benefit from taking a

> good long look in the mirror and practicing a bit of stark

honesty.

> We've all made mistakes in life.

>

> Your story will have an impact on alot of people, so please

continue

> to share with others as you feel comfortable. You have learned

alot

> about health, and that is a very important subject! We are seeing

a

> true revolution in health care taking place because of people like

> you and me who have found out that we CAN help ourselves overcome

> challenges. Thank God we have doctors willing to stand with us,

> like Dr. Mercola.

> Patty

>

> --------------------------you wrote:

> yes ive heard many great things about this tea.And from seeing my

> husband grandma get through this cancer when people do die after 3

> to 6 months.I just wish i would have bought the tea already made

up

> so much easier for me. Im going to use this tea and use garden of

> life products. I know over time i will get better to.

>

> I cant remember who posted about sauna on ebay i need to check

that

> out. It would help me so much .I really need it when we go visit

my

> mother in law.Im so out of it when we get back from being around

> everyone and im not looking foward to easter.But i did notice when

i

> starting taking Fyi by garden of life i dealt with it all better

and

> my brain fog really didnt seem to be there. I even had someone

tell

> me about myrrh oil .You take it when you been exposed to chemicals

> and it get right in your blood stream and it helps with brain

fog.I

> didnt have oil but pills and it does work and i took fyi to and

wow

> it helped so much.

>

> Oh thank for the info on rick warren new book. I think your the

one

> that posted that.

>

> I was wondering did everybody know you had implants ? Alot of

people

> dont know i had them but i really want to talk about it with more

> people .I wanted some of my friend to pray for me.So what is the

> best way to go about that. Im not a shy person. I guess i was just

> alittle ashamed of myself.Ive just came out and talked to some

> people in my family about it. I really want to help and get the

word

> out to.

>

> god bless michele

>

April 19, 2006

Hi all

My name is michele and ive been reading alot of your post.

On Jan 20 2006 i had my explant surgery by DR kolb.I had implants

for 10 years im 33 .It was the best thing ive ever done.I did have

some problems but since i followed the makers diet it seem to help

alot and my girls follow it to.I have a 3 1/2 year old and a 20

month old.They were brest feedto and show no signs of being sick.

Ive been doing the maker diet since i was pregnant with both and

praise god i did.What would they be like if i didnt .Sure someday i

go oh my what did i do to my girl it bad enough i did this to me but

i have to look at it all as a blessing .Sure i human and have

days.Through all this God has showed me so much. Today im alittle

brain fog.

I see alot of woman post about there kids and it make me really

sad. I will pass this info on.It might help someone.BUt my doctor

and Dr kolb said the makers diet has kept me and my girls

healthier.I give them primal defense(probitics),perfect food,cod

liver,goatein,super seed.They have never had

medicine ,vaccination .I dont use any chemicals in my house just

vinegar or seventh generation or earth friendly.Im a nontoxic

organic girl.Due to my chemical sensitives. I also choose to live

this way. I have friend say im extreme.I know God can heal us from

anything .But this is what i choose to do.

Where was i going with this.well I just wanted to tell you about my

surgery and how ive healed.

I was very impressed with Dr kolb she is a hard working woman.I love

her staff.dr mike is great to if any of you go to Dr kolb he can

help with angry ,pain and issue in your life,trauma, even allergys.I

had alot of angry with the implants. I dont know if any of you lady

have heard of EFT or TFT Dr mike does something like that and

naet here the websites www.emofree.com www.tftrx.com

www.naet.com I even do this on my daughter.I so recommend it.

I did alot of detoxing and eating right before surgery and after.I

agree with the sugar thing. It is a must.

One thing thathelped with healing and getting me better is i took

alot of primal defense .I did powdered so i took 6 scoops a day

before my surgery and after. The doctor said to increase it so i

would get the medicine out of my body after surgery and it would

keep me strong.I agree with that it put allthe good bacteria back in

the body so your body can fight. FYI helped with pain and infection

in my breast even helps with brain fog and Rm10 .Jordan says

FYi,Rm10 and primal defense all together help fight anything. i took

seasonal relief for alittle before my surgery and then 7 days

after.It help the immune to.I didnt take any antibitic after surgery

or anything Dr kolb told me in the medincine .I told her i knew what

to do and this is what i wanted to do. She said that was fine. Not

many Doctors will do that. My other doctor is like that to.I did

have a bad breast infection Dr kolb said but it was gone whe nshe

got in there she said i had alot of scar tissue.

other things that helped my was perfect food,digestive enzymes,i

also do raw apple cider vinegar 3 times a day.garlic best antiobitic

you can get i did alot of and parsley.

yerba mate tea i do sometime and komboocha,kefir

I never had a pain pump or took any pain meds.I used surgical tone

from Dr kolb office homeopathy helped so much and helped with

sweeling,bruising and pain. I could even lay on my side after

surgery and in 5 days after drains were out i could lay on my

stomach.I found that out when i had a appointment with Dr mike. I

must say i felt great after surgery. I think being positive helped

me to and God on my side to. I did alot of praying and asking god

for guidance when i was in georgia.I went by myself to. I needed

that time though.

rescue remedy flower essense i used for awhile great for calming the

nerves to before surgery and i know some people dont like to wait

and at Dr kolbs you do wait.But it open doors to so much more

things.I got to talk to other woman and even met a girl that was

there thinking about getting breast implants. I met on woman i cant

get out of my mind melissa and she has a 3 yrs old. I keep wanting

to she how i can get ahold of her or give my info. She really

touched me.She was there in jan

For my scars i used a salve or calendula cream. i starting using it

right away. My scars look great. This cream is great for rashes to.

You can get burts bees or www.supersalve.com has great stuff to.

here are some great website that helped me to from Jordan rubin new

book www.biblicalhealthinstitute.com just sign in it free 7 steps

to wellness. www.mercola.com has help me alot to.

thank you all for your stories and getting the word out.

sometime i thought about yesterday.YOu all know the movie erin

brokovich well she has implants.I wonder if she know all the

problems .I was thinking i wondering if she could help us to.If she

knew. WHo knows

god bless you all michele w

--- End forwarded message ---

April 16, 2007

Hi Kerry,

I've noticed a huge difference in my vision - - though I haven't been sure if it

is because I am now 43 or what - but sometimes I worry about not being able to

see as well as I normally can..... and it does get better if I am feeling better

- so I do believe it is connected with my RA flaring up....

~Kerry~ <kerry-lane@...> wrote: Im not

sure what the deal is here with me either.. I was ok this morning, just a bit

achey... got crappier thru the day, and now im back to achey and i cant see

diddly.... anyone else have Inflamitory arthritis have problems with their

vision??

Hope you all have a good nite and get plenty of rest....

Im sure Ill be creeping around on the web somewhere... *sigh*

Kerry

April 16, 2007

Kerry I am so sorry you are having such a bad day. I never thought to check my

eyes my eyes are bad anyway. Does your vision go blurry or had to see when not

enough light? I find I have more trouble with seeing with low light.

Hope your start feeling better.

Marsha

[ ] Hi all

Im not sure what the deal is here with me either.. I was ok this morning, just a

bit achey... got crappier thru the day, and now im back to achey and i cant see

diddly.... anyone else have Inflamitory arthritis have problems with their

vision??

Hope you all have a good nite and get plenty of rest....

Im sure Ill be creeping around on the web somewhere... *sigh*

Kerry

April 16, 2007

Thanks for the thoughts... Today Im not feeling bad, just the basic achey

that we all live with... I had been having a problem seeing at night for

about 2 yrs, but now it seems like when I feel real rough my eyes are very

blurry and I cant focus. Im not on any medications besides prednisone, and

Lortabs for the pain. Low light bothers me to the point every time there

are new white lights on sale I snag em up..LOL Im in my bedroom a lot

(kinda like a livingroom, with TV dvd player ps2 laptop chair couch table..

ect) so these are the first bulbs I replace. I love to Xstitch. I live to

xstitch and I havent been able to for over a month now, if its not my

fingers its my eyes being wonky....

Hope your feeling well today....

Kerry

Ps I am terribly sorry that it seems like I am always grouchy & whiney, I

don't mean to be.

January 17, 2009

I was a little abnormal in my symptoms too Kathy. My RA started in my feet and

literally worked it's way up my body. I'm also seronegative and arthritis was

confirmed when it was seen in my bone scan. It took awhile for the doctors to

decide which form of arthritis I have, but eventually RA was decided upon.

I'm glad that the MTX is helping a bit. I don't enjoy the side effects, but I

do appreciate the benefit of MTX.

Lori

http://home.comcast.net/~queenstitcher/

http://stitchingqueen.multiply.com

January 18, 2009

Hi Kathy,

I have aches and pains all over but I do think the MTX and Humera have

helped. The only thing I find little to no relief in is my hands. You may

have some Osteoarthritis to go along with the RA. I have that in my spine or

at least thats what the Dr says. If you have Fibro, its hard to tell if the

muscle pain is from Fibro or referred pain from the RA.

HEidibug

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, k_stepnitz <stepnitzcandles@...>wrote:

> I have been on methotrexate for 5 months. It seems to be helping a bit.

> I have seronegative RA, and I was diagnosed after seeing 3rd Rheumy. My

> joints affected at this time, are my knees and my shoulders. My back

> just started hurting, and my hands are stiff. I know that most RA pts

> have it in their hands and such. Are my symptoms normal? I also have

> alot of stiffness, big time, and all over pain.

> Kathy

> Michigan

>

October 20, 2010

this is gina demase, an oldy cml'er. (42). got my 10 year bone marrow biopsy in

july, still pcr negative, zero zero zero. the best remission my onc says. its

been like that for 8 years now. i feel very blessed. still on the trial. hope it

doesnt end ever cuz i cant afford gleevec. had my mamo done, all normal too.

goin for my first eye exam today. since i turned 40 my eyes get blurry from time

to time. i am doing good besides the fact all ive been thru with cml, my mom and

brother dying, etc, has turned me into a hypocondriac, its terrible to worry

about every little ache and pain. i talk my self out the irrational thinking. i

have good reason to be like this i know but it is no way to live. i am lucky to

be here today, i should be outside enjoying life more than on the internet

looking up every symptom and having these websites scare the hell out of me. the

internet can sometimes be not such a good idea. i think about you guys often,

and pray gleevec will keep me around much longer without long term side effects.

i dont go on the cml sits like i used to, makes me think too much. i do miss

you, wheres my lottie, my ray of sunshine? youre always in my heart. take care

guys, gina xoxoxoxoxo

October 20, 2010

Hi , good to hear from you and I am so glad your counts are so good.Â No

small wonder that you worry about everything, having lost your mom and your

brother, how terrible isÂ that?Â But you are right, the internet will scare

the hell out of you, and most times it is not really pertaining to what we are

looking up.Â Make yourself stop doing that, enjoy your wonderful " remission " ,

I don't think after this long a time doing so well you have to worry about CML

at all.Â It's like it isn't here!Â And lucky you to be able to be in a trial

tht last so long.Â I have not had to pay for drugs for going on 11 years due to

trials,thank goodness, or I would have been in the poor house a long time ago.Â

Love, Bobby

a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29

DX 5/1995

Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years

02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU

06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU

06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU

04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months

04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich.

01/2009 PCR 5.69

04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534

09/2009 PCR 0.01

11/2009 PCR 0.034

02/2010 PCRU

#840 Zavie's Zero Club

From: G <ginademase@...>

Subject: [ ] hi all

Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 9:28 AM

Â

this is gina demase, an oldy cml'er. (42). got my 10 year bone marrow

biopsy in july, still pcr negative, zero zero zero. the best remission my onc

says. its been like that for 8 years now. i feel very blessed. still on the

trial. hope it doesnt end ever cuz i cant afford gleevec. had my mamo done, all

normal too. goin for my first eye exam today. since i turned 40 my eyes get

blurry from time to time. i am doing good besides the fact all ive been thru

with cml, my mom and brother dying, etc, has turned me into a hypocondriac, its

terrible to worry about every little ache and pain. i talk my self out the

irrational thinking. i have good reason to be like this i know but it is no way

to live. i am lucky to be here today, i should be outside enjoying life more

than on the internet looking up every symptom and having these websites scare

the hell out of me. the internet can sometimes be not such a good idea. i think

about you guys often, and pray

gleevec will keep me around much longer without long term side effects. i dont

go on the cml sits like i used to, makes me think too much. i do miss you,

wheres my lottie, my ray of sunshine? youre always in my heart. take care guys,

gina xoxoxoxoxo

October 20, 2010

Hi

it is realy nice to hear from you. we go a long way together since we both

joined the iris trial. we also have a similar great response of pcr negative for

8 years or so, and as you have said we must be greatful.

try to have a great life and live each day fully

love

giora

[ ] hi all

this is gina demase, an oldy cml'er. (42). got my 10 year bone marrow biopsy

in july, still pcr negative, zero zero zero. the best remission my onc says. its