Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Hi Sharon~~ I'm very new here myself. My daughter has been sick most of her life too, and was recently, (finally) diagnosed with an immune deficiency. I just wanted to say hi and welcome because I could feel the despair in your words. There are people here with years of experience and great advice, so take a deep breath and know things will get better!! Belinda Lacey's mom, (14, CdLS, IgG deficiency) Pittsburg, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 You might try giving these to her on the way to the doctors office. It might ward off the headaches instead of trying to come to the rescue later. Ursula Holleman Macey's mom (7 yr. old with CVID, asthma, sinus disease, GERD, Diabetes Insipidus, colonic inertia) http://members.cox.net/maceyh Immune Deficiency Foundation - Peer Contact for GA http://www.primaryimmune.org / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 WAY TO GO JENA!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Great post! Congrats on the beginning of your new life. Newton Medical Records Manager HTTP://www.clos.net shn@... Office (704) 871-0031 Cell (704) 682-1392 Follow Up Hi, all! I have not posted in quite awhile.....I have been trying to find a job!! Anyway, I am loving life and the new me! I am down almost 40lbs and just yesterday dug out a pair of pants that I had put away because they were WA-A-A-A-A-AY too small. They not only fit but they were a little big in the waist. I don't know what size they were since I had a tendency to cut tags out of my clothing for fear that someone would see what size I was!! I went to my Dr. and my blood sugar was down from 127 to 96, and my blood pressure was 136/80. She was so happy with my progress and I had only lost 30lbs when I saw her. I have now lost 40lbs. I go back for a full physical on 3/28/03 and I am hoping for good results on everything. She said she will take me off of BP medicine if all continues to check out well. I have also joined " Curves " which is a gym for more " mature " women. Not a lot of spandex here!! I work the different muscle groups for toning and strengthening. I am not going so I can increase my weight loss ( I like the rate at which I am losing) , I am going to improve my energy level and develop stronger muscles so that I can do more!! I want to be able to go all day and not feel like I need to sit and rest! I am sure that day will come. I hope you are all doing well and I will try to post more often. Jena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 In a message dated 12/19/2004 4:01:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, novae5@... writes: Honestly I havent had any follow up after the surgery. They told me I really didn't need to come in and see them after they were satisfied my wounds had healed. I had this problem before surgery and it continues now. The main difference is I can eat now I have tried nexium but I don't like it. It makes me sick to my stomach and I feel absolutely horrible all day. My doctor didn't believe me when I told them that, since That's not a side effect listed. I usually just try to eat like bread or crackers to calm my stomach. Or I wimp out and take pain killers. I"m going to go to a new doctor soon (new health ins.) and see if I can get a referral to a specialistthanks for all the advice so farashley , I do believe that the side effects of Nexium and some of the other PPI's is nausea, headaches and/or diarreah. The only PPI I can "stomache" (sorry for the pun) , is Prevacid. It doesn't cause me to feel that awful stomache nausea. Jan from Northern KY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 My surgery was about five weeks ago. Right after surgery I had some acid attacks at night and in the morning. I was not sure if it was a spasm or heartburn. My surgeon was surprised I had heartburn because she did a partial wrap. The surgery was a sucess and prevented fluids from staying in my esop. I have been researching how acid forms in the stomach. Every time you eat, acid is being pumped in the stomach. The prevacids and nexiums prevent or minimize the acid production. Yes people do have side affects. I take prevacid after an acid occurrence since my attacks are irregular. I have tried something new for me and that is eating sauerkraut. It has enzymes that slow the acid production. I take before bed or after I think my stomach is upset or sour. OK do not laugh but I am going on almost 3-1/2 weeks without heartburn. I am keeping a log to see if it is real or not. It may not work for everyone but so far so good. Merry Christmas and good luck. Follow up Honestly I havent had any follow up after the surgery. They told me I really didn't need to come in and see them after they were satisfied my wounds had healed. I had this problem before surgery and it continues now. The main difference is I can eat now I have tried nexium but I don't like it. It makes me sick to my stomach and I feel absolutely horrible all day. My doctor didn't believe me when I told them that, since That's not a side effect listed. I usually just try to eat like bread or crackers to calm my stomach. Or I wimp out and take pain killers. I"m going to go to a new doctor soon (new health ins.) and see if I can get a referral to a specialistthanks for all the advice so farashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 In a message dated 12/19/2004 8:22:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, dferguson1@... writes: I have tried something new for me and that is eating sauerkraut. It has enzymes that slow the acid production. I take before bed or after I think my stomach is upset or sour. OK do not laugh but I am going on almost 3-1/2 weeks without heartburn. I am keeping a log to see if it is real or not. It may not work for everyone but so far so good. Merry Christmas and good luck. Do you mean that you just eat sourcraut before going to bed, or does it come in some sort of pill form? Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 I eat the real stuff. Around 9:00 PM I have about two or three teaspoons of kraut usually with a glass of red wine. Actually I am getting to like the flavor. Supposedly there are enzymes in the kraut that slows down acid production. Sounds like previcid or nexium. I know you can make your own kraut but I am too lazy or just do not have the time. I keep my previcid for trips. I thought this was going to be a whim but just like golf it is not the swing but the results. Merry Christmas. Re: Follow up In a message dated 12/19/2004 8:22:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, dferguson1@... writes: I have tried something new for me and that is eating sauerkraut. It has enzymes that slow the acid production. I take before bed or after I think my stomach is upset or sour. OK do not laugh but I am going on almost 3-1/2 weeks without heartburn. I am keeping a log to see if it is real or not. It may not work for everyone but so far so good. Merry Christmas and good luck. Do you mean that you just eat sourcraut before going to bed, or does it come in some sort of pill form? Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 jennifer, we do not go to our old pediatric ortho anymore. we went there for a year for bracing and have been going to erie since last july for casting. we sort of have a back up pediatric ortho at another hospital (remember that we're in boston so we have some options) who could help with lucas' cast if anything became a problem -- meaning if he needed to get it trimmed or taken off. we may even get lucas' cast taken off a day or so before his next change to let his skin breathe a bit as per dr. sanders suggestion, but we'll see when we get closer to aug. lauren (evan's mom) did have to do go to this same local pediatric ortho twice, i believe, for cast issues so it is nice to know that there is someone here who can see lucas if there is a problem. as for monitoring lucas and providing follow up care, that is what we have dr. sanders for. deshea My pediatrician keeps insisting that I should have an orthopedist here to monitor Ian's situation & provide follow up care in addition to going to Erie. I think she just really wants me to get another opinion. Anyway, I don't see what another orthopedist would do for him at this point? Do any of you see an orthopedist aside from the person who does your casting? Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Thanks Deshea. I think she really wants me to do it so that I will change my mind about the cast. There is a doc here in Charlottesville that does casts, but I believe they may be the old style from the email he sent me. I could probably go to him if there was a problem with the cast, but I wouldn't get treatment from him. He told me has has kids wait until 12 to 18 mos before he even considers casting or bracing. I don't think any of the other orthos around here would be very supportive of what I am doing with the casting. That's why I would rather not see anyone else than the Shriners. Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04) Re: follow up jennifer,we do not go to our old pediatric ortho anymore. we wentthere for a year for bracing and have been going to erie sincelast july for casting. we sort of have a back up pediatricortho at another hospital (remember that we're in boston so wehave some options) who could help with lucas' cast if anythingbecame a problem -- meaning if he needed to get it trimmed ortaken off. we may even get lucas' cast taken off a day or sobefore his next change to let his skin breathe a bit as perdr. sanders suggestion, but we'll see when we get closer to aug. lauren (evan's mom) did have to do go to this same localpediatric ortho twice, i believe, for cast issues so it isnice to know that there is someone here who can see lucas ifthere is a problem. as for monitoring lucas and providingfollow up care, that is what we have dr. sanders for.deshea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 How far away are you from Erie? If it is a considerable difference, you might want to keep an ortho "on board" locally, just in case. I would ask them in Erie if they knew of anyone around you. I am not so sure I would ask your pediatrician for a referral as it sounds like they have an "agenda." Good luck! Gail follow up My pediatrician keeps insisting that I should have an orthopedist here to monitor Ian's situation & provide follow up care in addition to going to Erie. I think she just really wants me to get another opinion. Anyway, I don't see what another orthopedist would do for him at this point? Do any of you see an orthopedist aside from the person who does your casting? Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 I am 7 1/2 hours from Erie. I will ask when we go up to Erie about a doctor in this area. Thanks Gail. Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04) follow up My pediatrician keeps insisting that I should have an orthopedist here to monitor Ian's situation & provide follow up care in addition to going to Erie. I think she just really wants me to get another opinion. Anyway, I don't see what another orthopedist would do for him at this point? Do any of you see an orthopedist aside from the person who does your casting? Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 I follow patients as long as they are willing to come back. We have a schedule that we expect that they follow which is once pre-op, then at 3weeks, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 18 months, 2 years then annually. With the surgeons/docs on board with the schedule and the expectation set up from the beginning we are getting pretty good compliance with the schedule. I do not suggest that you limit how far out you see patients, especially not at a year.....they may not really get the message when things are going well and it may take a regain or slow in wt loss before they feel you are worth while. I do find that patients further out are more likely to f/u when things go wrong vs when they go right ! As far as pre-op, I try to communicate with people over the phone or email if possible if I need to meet with them more than once....a quick follow-up or check in. This helps reduce the cost for them but if they have major changes to make and/or are a nutritionally complicated patient (i.e. DM) then I would see them back and I would charge them. Hope this helps. Laschkewitsch -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of TheresaSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: follow upHello,I just wanted to ask opinions on something - I was hired to work 20 hrs per week at bariatric institute (but my boss is chief, clinical dietetics). When I got hired I thought since I also see outpatients I should set a guideline of how far out I follow bariatric surgery pts.I decided to say one year from surgery since that is a year to maximize education, etc.. However, now that I have some experience I find pts don't come back during this honeymoon phase. They probably really need more help after a year. So, should I not put a limit on how long I will follow pts? What do some of you do out there for this situation????For those of you in my situation, do you offer additional pre counseling without charging if pt seems to need to get a better handle on diabetes, or other issues before surgery? THANKS!Theresa Gilbert IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should contact the sender and delete the message. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 We have the philosophy that a bariatric patient is ours for life. We expect/require pretty intensive follow-up the first year (2 weeks, 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, and one year out). Of course, once the person has had surgery, you can't MAKE them come back but we try to help people understand that the surgery is not a quick/easy fix...they will need to learn many new food/nutrition skills to be successful. After the first year, we schedule regular follow-up appointments annually (or more frequently if the patient needs/wants it). Also, I would not see someone for MNT without charging them (it would be a VERY rare situation in which I would see someone for free). M. Roy, RD, LD St. 's/Duluth Clinic Health System 400 East Third Street Duluth, MN 55805 (218) 786-3143 hroy@... -----Original Message-----From: Theresa [mailto:glenn_glbrt@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: follow upHello,I just wanted to ask opinions on something - I was hired to work 20 hrs per week at bariatric institute (but my boss is chief, clinical dietetics). When I got hired I thought since I also see outpatients I should set a guideline of how far out I follow bariatric surgery pts.I decided to say one year from surgery since that is a year to maximize education, etc.. However, now that I have some experience I find pts don't come back during this honeymoon phase. They probably really need more help after a year. So, should I not put a limit on how long I will follow pts? What do some of you do out there for this situation????For those of you in my situation, do you offer additional pre counseling without charging if pt seems to need to get a better handle on diabetes, or other issues before surgery? THANKS!Theresa Gilbert This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. As required by federal and state laws, you need to hold this information as privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 We do lifetime follow up. They are seen at 4 weeks, 12 weeks, 6 months, 18 months, 24 months, and then yearly, in addition to visits as needed to deal with any problems. Even my best patients have gotten “sloppy” as they moved farther away from their surgeries. A little “wake-up call” is often in order to keep them on track. We always go over their lab results, which can be an eye-opening experience for folks who forget that they are still responsible for maintaining their health! And don’t forget the importance of interacting with your patients at support group – it’s a wonderful way to keep the importance of nutrition fresh in their minds. Other professions don’t offer consults without fees. I wouldn’t get in the habit of doing that. We, as dietitians, tend to be a very “giving’ group, but if we give away our services, we’re sending the message that there is no value to what we do. Perhaps that’s one the reasons that we have to struggle to get reimbursement. Why pay for it if people can it for free?! If it’s a pre-op visit for education related to the surgery, focus on that. If they need diabetic or pre-op weight loss management, schedule appointments for that. Just my 2 cents…. Runkle, MA, RD, LDN Building on Basics Nutrition Consulting Services, Inc. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Theresa Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: follow up Hello, I just wanted to ask opinions on something - I was hired to work 20 hrs per week at bariatric institute (but my boss is chief, clinical dietetics). When I got hired I thought since I also see outpatients I should set a guideline of how far out I follow bariatric surgery pts. I decided to say one year from surgery since that is a year to maximize education, etc.. However, now that I have some experience I find pts don't come back during this honeymoon phase. They probably really need more help after a year. So, should I not put a limit on how long I will follow pts? What do some of you do out there for this situation???? For those of you in my situation, do you offer additional pre counseling without charging if pt seems to need to get a better handle on diabetes, or other issues before surgery? THANKS! Theresa Gilbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Thank you so much for replies. This is helpful to know what a few others are doing out there! Theresa > I follow patients as long as they are willing to come back. We have a > schedule that we expect that they follow which is once pre-op, then at > 3weeks, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 18 months, 2 years then annually. With > the surgeons/docs on board with the schedule and the expectation set up from > the beginning we are getting pretty good compliance with the schedule. I > do not suggest that you limit how far out you see patients, especially not > at a year.....they may not really get the message when things are going well > and it may take a regain or slow in wt loss before they feel you are worth > while. I do find that patients further out are more likely to f/u when > things go wrong vs when they go right ! > > As far as pre-op, I try to communicate with people over the phone or email > if possible if I need to meet with them more than once....a quick follow-up > or check in. This helps reduce the cost for them but if they have major > changes to make and/or are a nutritionally complicated patient (i.e. DM) > then I would see them back and I would charge them. > Hope this helps. > > Laschkewitsch > follow up > > > > Hello, > I just wanted to ask opinions on something - I was hired to work 20 > hrs per week at bariatric institute (but my boss is chief, clinical > dietetics). When I got hired I thought since I also see outpatients I > should set a guideline of how far out I follow bariatric surgery pts. > > I decided to say one year from surgery since that is a year to > maximize education, etc.. However, now that I have some experience I > find pts don't come back during this honeymoon phase. They probably > really need more help after a year. > > So, should I not put a limit on how long I will follow pts? What do > some of you do out there for this situation???? > > For those of you in my situation, do you offer additional pre > counseling without charging if pt seems to need to get a better > handle on diabetes, or other issues before surgery? > > THANKS! > Theresa Gilbert > > > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 In a message dated 10/3/2005 12:37:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, npm@... writes: Name:_ ___________________________________________ Date of Birth:_09-22-1958 _____________________________________ Date of surgery:__08-09-2005__________________________________ 1.Follow-up 6 wk weight:179 2.Follow-up 6 wk complications:lightheaded and dizzy sometimes. No more pain when eating! 3.Follow-up 6 wk satisfaction: very happy 1.Follow-up 6 mo weight: 2.Follow-up 6 mo complications: 3.Follow-up 6 mo satisfaction: 1.Follow-up 12 mo weight: 2.Follow-up 12 mo complications: 3.Follow-up 12 mo satisfaction: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Coleen, What about this rheumatologist: J Harrell Docherty, MD 514G S Dargon St PO Box 2598 Florence, SC 29503 Ofc: 843-667-8561 Fax: 843-667-1918 Time Spent: Patient Care, Teaching Disciplines: Adult Rheumatology, Pediatric Rheumatology, Internal Medicine Locations: Practice-Multiple Specialty Group, Hospital Member Type: Fellow Member http://www.rheumatology.org/directory/city.asp?hCountry=USA & city=Florence & cbxPed\ iatric= & cbxPatientCare= & state=SC Not an MD [ ] Follow Up >I had my Rheumy appointment today. I was the one whining about > excessive sleeping, pain and stiffness for hours in the morning and > an obviously change in my right thumb, it's turing outward and is > sore all the time. > Basically, he said my inflammation level was much higher 4 months ago > that it had been 3 months before that and he thought the bloodwork > done today would be even higher. He agreed the Humira was probably > not working and I said pretty much since he took me off the MTX. He > still refuses to put me on any MTX, he feels with the Asacol I take > for colitis it will hurt my liver. He calls it " bad medicine " , even > though I was on Humira and MTX for over 2 years and my Rheumy and > Gastro doctors in VA never said anything. He agreed with changing my > anti-depressant from Prosaic, but he refused to put me on another > one. He said there were to many and I needed to talk to my Internist > about that and any pain meds he feels I might need. > They took blood, including thyroid TSH, T-3 T-4 for my interist, and > gave me a DVD and handout on " Rituxan " . That would be an infusion > (IV) then repeated 2 weeks later in the doctors office. He said most > insurance do it for the copay, but the total cost is over $11,000 for > those 2 treatments. I've read the material, but every page refers > to " Rituxan " with Methotrexate reduces pain and symptoms for 6 > months, that would be about the time for the next treatment. Well, as > with the Humira, he won't prescribe MTX so I'm not sure what to do. > Any comments or suggestions will be appricated. There are only 2 > Rheumy's in Florence, SC and they are both in the same office. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 That is fantastic news Laurie. can you send me the article or at least tell me the name of it so I can get it from the files that are on the site? I am being told no one will touch my daughter, who is 3 b/c she doesn't have any tonsillitis symptoms. I say other than the high fevers every 28 days!!! I will be going to see a specialist in the next month in Hartford, thanks to Nick and would like to have this available. Thanks and good luck Beth Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 The article was Dr. Licameli from Boston Childrens Hosptial which is a well known children's hospital. I don't know where it is anymore on this site, but you can easily google the article. I was also lucky in that my ENT was familiar with syndrome and knows me from working at the hospital. He is extremely conservative but after seeing what we had been going through he agreed is was worth a shot. I brought the article and the study with me to my appt. I am a pediatric RN at the children's hospital here, so I am very aware of the risks involved with surgery. But in my opinion it was worth a try versus what we were dealing with. It really wasn't bad, you just have to make sure you give them around the clock pain meds and don't miss any doses so the pain doesn't get out of control and then they get dehydrated from not drinking. Honestly after a week he was completely fine. I don't think the recovery was anywhere near as bad as what we had been dealing with for 2 years prior:) Try and find an ENT who is familiar with this syndrome. Aidens main symptoms were high fevers, occassional vomitting (ususally because of fast temp spike), red throat with sometimes mouth sores. Tonsels were never huge and even when they were removed he said they didn't look aweful. I hope you have some luck and can find someone willing to do the surgery if that is what you choose to do. For us, it has worked so far:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 That's wonderful news that you seem to have found what works for him! I hope your luck continues, it must be so freeing to be fever free for so long after such a long go with fevering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 That's wonderful news that you seem to have found what works for him! I hope your luck continues, it must be so freeing to be fever free for so long after such a long go with fevering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 That's wonderful news that you seem to have found what works for him! I hope your luck continues, it must be so freeing to be fever free for so long after such a long go with fevering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hi I, myself am holding out for the 3D TX in the fall or early next year. I would like to maybe wait until late in 2011 if I have to treat, so that I get to hear real experiance reports from folks who are doing it. Still, it doesnt matter if my liver says its time. There are conflicting reports about Milk Thistle, but it has been used for thousands of years. I take it, and it hasnt hurt me. I take about a dozen sups/vitamins, because I want to be as good to my body as I can be. I spent a lot of years not thinking about nutrition. love don in ks From: DARRYL KEYS <sjkeys@...>Subject: [ ] Follow up Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:12 PM Hi Don, Yes I do think I'm healthy enough to try treatment again. I just have to save up some sick leave. Doctor said that he would let me know when research brings up something that might be useful to me. I haven't pushed the issue. The liver biopsy before treatment showed Stage 2 for both inflamation and scarring. Had an ultrasound last Tuesday and am waiting for results from that. I am still able to work and get pretty good leeway for my bouts of fatigue. I have not tried any of the alternative treatments but am considering beginning with milk thistle. That's about it for me. Happy Valentine's Day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Hi all to share part two thank you again Rettig Here is the link for today's paper http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/article_56fd652e-46b9-11df-b06b-001cc4c03\ 286.html God's Blessings God's Blessings Rettig (Army Mom of 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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