Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I am really conflicted. After seeing no results from three different SSRI's, the doctor today prescribed a slight increase in Lexapro and the addition of Zyprexa, in part to help with my son's sleep problems. We've never tried an atypical antipsychotic, and with all the fear surrounding these, not helped by last night's Frontline broadcast, I am really afraid to go this route. My son is 11 and has been quite stable, but still struggling with his ERP therapy. I've been waiting for that " magic pill " to help him over the hump, but so far, no luck. The doctor said to discontinue the Remeron which was helping my son sleep because it isn't helping with the anxiety as he'd hoped. I'm thinking the most sane thing to do would be to stay on the Lexapro, maybe bump up the dose and try PureCalm or Melatonin for sleep along with fish oil in hopes that this will help with the anxiety. I guess if my son were really manic or suicidal, I'd be more willing to take the antipsychotic step. Any thoughts? Experiences? Direction? Thanks, ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 , I know exactly how you feel. What a scary step to take. I have to say that Zyprexa was a remarkable med. for my daughter in combination with Prozac. She has been on it short term twice, and both times it really calmed her thoughts and turned her around. What dose is he starting at, if you decide to give it to him? My DD (12) was on 5 mgs. for a very short time, but did well on both 2.5 and even 1.25 mgs. No anxiety at all. It causes a lot of weight gain, which is why we took her off. The first time she was on it at age 8, it caused quite a bit of cognitive dulling. She didn't want to read, couldn't do her math facts very well, etc. But it was summer. That all went away when we took her off of it at the end of the summer. When she was on it the 2nd time, she was in school and we quickly bumped down to 1.25 mgs. and she managed really well. She said it didn't affect her school work at all. However, after she was off of it a couple of months, she said, " I can think a lot better now. " So, she was still a straight A student, but noticed the difference when she was off. The first time she took it, she was out for about 14-16 hours. The sedative affect got better after 2-3 days, so I would start on a Friday night. It helped her to sleep, even at the low dose, but she didn't have any adjustment when she went off. We did wean her off gradually though. Anyway, just thought I'd give you our experience. I don't like her to be on it, but it wasn't terrible, and certainly enabled her to turn things around. She's now on Prozac and Buspar which has been very affective for her. Because of the weight gain issue, if she needs an atypical again, we're going to try Abilify. Any reason the pdoc chose Zyprexa? Good luck with your decision, Dina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks for your reply, Dina. What did you mean by " it turned her around? " Was she able to then do her therapy and continue even when she went off of it? I'm not sure why the doc chose Zyprexa over anything else. I am worried about weight gain, especially since my son already gained after starting Remeron. What dose is he starting at, if you decide to give it to him? My DD (12) was on 5 mgs. for a very short time, but did well on both 2.5 and even 1.25 mgs. No anxiety at all. It causes a lot of weight gain, which is why we took her off. The first time she was on it at age 8, it caused quite a bit of cognitive dulling. She didn't want to read, couldn't do her math facts very well, etc. But it was summer. That all went away when we took her off of it at the end of the summer. When she was on it the 2nd time, she was in school and we quickly bumped down to 1.25 mgs. and she managed really well. She said it didn't affect her school work at all. However, after she was off of it a couple of months, she said, " I can think a lot better now. " So, she was still a straight A student, but noticed the difference when she was off. The first time she took it, she was out for about 14-16 hours. The sedative affect got better after 2-3 days, so I would start on a Friday night. It helped her to sleep, even at the low dose, but she didn't have any adjustment when she went off. We did wean her off gradually though. Anyway, just thought I'd give you our experience. I don't like her to be on it, but it wasn't terrible, and certainly enabled her to turn things around. She's now on Prozac and Buspar which has been very affective for her. Because of the weight gain issue, if she needs an atypical again, we're going to try Abilify. Any reason the pdoc chose Zyprexa? Good luck with your decision, Dina <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 momof3 wrote: > > Thanks for your reply, Dina. > > What did you mean by " it turned her around? " Was she able to then do > her therapy and continue even when she went off of it? > > My DD hasn't ever had ERP therapy. It's a long story. Her pdoc is > against it, I am for it. But, my DD has very few symptoms when > medicated at a therapeutic dose for her, so we haven't pursued it. I > would like to in the future so she hopefully doesn't have to be on > Prozac for the long term. However, I'm reluctant to " open a can of > worms " when she's functioning great. > > By turning around, I mean that she was an absolute sky high anxiety, > non-eating, non-functioning, following me around the house, crying, > not able to go to school or anywhere else without thinking she was > about to vomit child, to a regular girl within days of starting > Zyprexa. The anxiety was gone, the thoughts were gone, she was > happy. We kept her on it a couple of months while we raised the > Prozac and then slowly weaned her off. We've had to do that twice > because the thoughts crept back in. I think some children respond > well to medication and others not so much. I wish we understood why. > > Dina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 --- , I remember first hearing on using risperdol on my youngest daughter, who was 6. it was scary and I cried. But now she is so much more stable I tend to focus on the life she has now, compared to before. We also use it on our 9 year old w/ good results. They have significant anxiety issues and could not be helped by traditional SSRIS. So far, so good. we have been at this for 6 months or so. Kathy In , momof3 <noahfsmom@...> wrote: > > I am really conflicted. After seeing no results from three different SSRI's, the doctor today prescribed a slight increase in Lexapro and the addition of Zyprexa, in part to help with my son's sleep problems. We've never tried an atypical antipsychotic, and with all the fear surrounding these, not helped by last night's Frontline broadcast, I am really afraid to go this route. My son is 11 and has been quite stable, but still struggling with his ERP therapy. I've been waiting for that " magic pill " to help him over the hump, but so far, no luck. The doctor said to discontinue the Remeron which was helping my son sleep because it isn't helping with the anxiety as he'd hoped. > > I'm thinking the most sane thing to do would be to stay on the Lexapro, maybe bump up the dose and try PureCalm or Melatonin for sleep along with fish oil in hopes that this will help with the anxiety. > > I guess if my son were really manic or suicidal, I'd be more willing to take the antipsychotic step. > > Any thoughts? Experiences? Direction? > > Thanks, > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 --- , I remember first hearing on using risperdol on my youngest daughter, who was 6. it was scary and I cried. But now she is so much more stable I tend to focus on the life she has now, compared to before. We also use it on our 9 year old w/ good results. They have significant anxiety issues and could not be helped by traditional SSRIS. So far, so good. we have been at this for 6 months or so. Kathy In , momof3 <noahfsmom@...> wrote: > > I am really conflicted. After seeing no results from three different SSRI's, the doctor today prescribed a slight increase in Lexapro and the addition of Zyprexa, in part to help with my son's sleep problems. We've never tried an atypical antipsychotic, and with all the fear surrounding these, not helped by last night's Frontline broadcast, I am really afraid to go this route. My son is 11 and has been quite stable, but still struggling with his ERP therapy. I've been waiting for that " magic pill " to help him over the hump, but so far, no luck. The doctor said to discontinue the Remeron which was helping my son sleep because it isn't helping with the anxiety as he'd hoped. > > I'm thinking the most sane thing to do would be to stay on the Lexapro, maybe bump up the dose and try PureCalm or Melatonin for sleep along with fish oil in hopes that this will help with the anxiety. > > I guess if my son were really manic or suicidal, I'd be more willing to take the antipsychotic step. > > Any thoughts? Experiences? Direction? > > Thanks, > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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