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Holy Toledo! Now she says she doesn't know what she was thinking? For Pete's

sakes, it's not like she didn't have kids before. I'm speechless.

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> wrote:

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>

> I hope we are done with the hot button issue of the month and can get back

> to talking about CML, drugs, hair loss and other side effects and just

> general stuff. I hope decides she wants to remain part of the group,

> however, refraining from becoming a bully pulpit of indictments against

> those who do not profess her ideology. I hope that she realizes that

> impuning the mothers in our group is not the way to win friends and

> influence people. This is not what we do best, attack one another. A

> retraction would be a nice start, but just playing nice would be a better.

>

> I will speak for Zavie, he is under 60, Sharon. LOL. Maybe we should ask

> Octomom for her opinion and surely she has one. She is now sorry and says

> she doesn't know what she was thinking. Now who will care for her 14

> children? The state (us).

>

> Carpe Diem,

> Lottie Duthu

>

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Hi Lottie,

You are right about my age. I'm 15 much of the time.

Also, there is no need to cut the breast feeding remarks just yet. Give it a

couple of days to allow people to vent. This happened over the weekend and

there are many out there who don't get a chance to read this list until

Monday.

Zavie

Zavie (age 72)

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Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

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INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

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Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

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3.0 log reduction Jan/06

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3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

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Duthu

Sent: October-04-10 2:21 AM

CML

Subject: [ ] New Chapter

I hope we are done with the hot button issue of the month and can get back

to talking about CML, drugs, hair loss and other side effects and just

general stuff. I hope decides she wants to remain part of the group,

however, refraining from becoming a bully pulpit of indictments against

those who do not profess her ideology. I hope that she realizes that

impuning the mothers in our group is not the way to win friends and

influence people. This is not what we do best, attack one another. A

retraction would be a nice start, but just playing nice would be a better.

I will speak for Zavie, he is under 60, Sharon. LOL. Maybe we should ask

Octomom for her opinion and surely she has one. She is now sorry and says

she doesn't know what she was thinking. Now who will care for her 14

children? The state (us).

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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I think it is sad that everyone feels the need to jump on the band wagon and

chastise, criticize, and step down to her level. Enough is enough. Talk about

bullying.

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From: Rosen Lum <rrosenlum@...>

Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 1:34:02 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] New Chapter

Holy Toledo! Now she says she doesn't know what she was thinking? For Pete's

sakes, it's not like she didn't have kids before. I'm speechless.

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> wrote:

>

>

> I hope we are done with the hot button issue of the month and can get back

> to talking about CML, drugs, hair loss and other side effects and just

> general stuff. I hope decides she wants to remain part of the group,

> however, refraining from becoming a bully pulpit of indictments against

> those who do not profess her ideology. I hope that she realizes that

> impuning the mothers in our group is not the way to win friends and

> influence people. This is not what we do best, attack one another. A

> retraction would be a nice start, but just playing nice would be a better.

>

> I will speak for Zavie, he is under 60, Sharon. LOL. Maybe we should ask

> Octomom for her opinion and surely she has one. She is now sorry and says

> she doesn't know what she was thinking. Now who will care for her 14

> children? The state (us).

>

> Carpe Diem,

> Lottie Duthu

>

>

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Yes and some good is coming out of it!- we r hearing from some very intelligent

and informed cml-ers that hardly post! And they have great info. Like .

Sharon

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[ ] New Chapter

I hope we are done with the hot button issue of the month and can get back

to talking about CML, drugs, hair loss and other side effects and just

general stuff. I hope decides she wants to remain part of the group,

however, refraining from becoming a bully pulpit of indictments against

those who do not profess her ideology. I hope that she realizes that

impuning the mothers in our group is not the way to win friends and

influence people. This is not what we do best, attack one another. A

retraction would be a nice start, but just playing nice would be a better.

I will speak for Zavie, he is under 60, Sharon. LOL. Maybe we should ask

Octomom for her opinion and surely she has one. She is now sorry and says

she doesn't know what she was thinking. Now who will care for her 14

children? The state (us).

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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> I think it is sad that everyone feels the need to jump on the band wagon and

> chastise, criticize, and step down to her level. Enough is enough. Talk about

> bullying.

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Anita,

I disagree that this is bullying.

When one person expresses her very strong opinions about actually several things

(breast feeding and you causing your own cancer), I think it is appropriate for

anyone to express their opinion, whether it is in support or opposing. This

member was all for freedom of speech, and we have to give the same right to

anyone.

As Peggy wrote, if she has said something like.....I was wrong in applying my

own personal beliefs to everyone and I apologize, it would be over.

This is a forum where more people should take part and tell us what they think

about issues, what they believe, etc....in a non-judgemental way. Just like I

have done to your post.....I have a different opinion which I have expressed.

C.

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You are so right you are so so right.

I agree with what everyone has been stating against her post but geez it keeps

going on and on. She apparently loves to stir up crap and knew she would with

her post. And you all have fulfilled her desire to stir it.

So what if she does not apologize. We all as mother's know what it takes to be a

good mother, as well as being a child we know whether or not our mother's were

good. I did not take offense to anything that she said because I consider the

source it came from.

Anyone with common since would know not to try or do what she has done, With the

Green Tea and then again nursing while taking Gleevic

Thank goodness for the majority of you guys with CML have common sense.

But why oh why keep lowering to her level one person after another.

By calling her unfit and Blah Blah Blah.

All this name calling is so grade school.

Anita

________________________________

From: hey00nanc <ncogan@...>

Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 12:33:35 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] New Chapter

>

> I think it is sad that everyone feels the need to jump on the band wagon and

> chastise, criticize, and step down to her level. Enough is enough. Talk about

> bullying.

________________________________________

Anita,

I disagree that this is bullying.

When one person expresses her very strong opinions about actually several things

(breast feeding and you causing your own cancer), I think it is appropriate for

anyone to express their opinion, whether it is in support or opposing. This

member was all for freedom of speech, and we have to give the same right to

anyone.

As Peggy wrote, if she has said something like.....I was wrong in applying my

own personal beliefs to everyone and I apologize, it would be over.

This is a forum where more people should take part and tell us what they think

about issues, what they believe, etc....in a non-judgemental way. Just like I

have done to your post.....I have a different opinion which I have expressed.

C.

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I read many posts on this list that I agree with and some I do not agree with.

Some people post political opinions with which I do not agree, and welcome their

point of view, but reserve the right to respectfully disagree.

Meds like Gleevec, Tasigna, and Sprycel are high potency and can put anyone on

edge at different times

Let's just remember The Golden Rule and try to tolerate views we may oppose.

But don't get in my face if I say something you do not like!!! LOL Either

ignore it or try to persuade me in an intelligent, civil matter.

We are all in the same lousy boat with the CML

pestilence.........................

Best,

Carl

________________________________

From: hey00nanc <ncogan@...>

Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 10:33:35 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] New Chapter

>

> I think it is sad that everyone feels the need to jump on the band wagon and

> chastise, criticize, and step down to her level. Enough is enough. Talk about

> bullying.

________________________________________

Anita,

I disagree that this is bullying.

When one person expresses her very strong opinions about actually several things

(breast feeding and you causing your own cancer), I think it is appropriate for

anyone to express their opinion, whether it is in support or opposing. This

member was all for freedom of speech, and we have to give the same right to

anyone.

As Peggy wrote, if she has said something like.....I was wrong in applying my

own personal beliefs to everyone and I apologize, it would be over.

This is a forum where more people should take part and tell us what they think

about issues, what they believe, etc....in a non-judgemental way. Just like I

have done to your post.....I have a different opinion which I have expressed.

C.

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