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magnesium might be of big help

 

http://www.mgwater.com/prev1808.shtml

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Carol Palmer <carol_p@...> wrote:

 

After being referred to a cardiologist and going to a naturopathic heartexpert instead, I was sent for an echocardiogram. Now they say I havechronic A Fib with a " mitral valve insufficency. " I have been taking extra

iodine after reading that a shortage in your body leads to A Fib. Of course,my GP wants me to go to a regular cardiologist. I am thinking Beta Blockersand Coumadin....no way. Any ideas? Carol

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Lottie, I may not have this right, but it was explained to me with A fib, your

heart chambers are not beating in sinc, and blood can pool  and possibly cause

a clot, hence the danger of a stroke. the coumadin is a blood thinner and should

prevent this.  Someone tell me if I am in error please.  I see my regular dr.

today and will ask to be sure. I got a sore throat yesterday and it came on so

fast, I wondered if it was an allergy to coumadin, that happened once with

Lisinipril and my tongue swelled and I thought i would choke to death. 

Needless to say I did not get a good night's sleep last night. I sound  like a

hypochondriac lately, so am wishing good thoughts for myself and everyone else

today and for the new year, enough of this crap!!!! lol Bobby

a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29

DX 5/1995

Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years

02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU

06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU

06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU

04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months

04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich.

01/2009 PCR 5.69

04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534

09/2009 PCR 0.01

11/2009 PCR 0.034

02/2010 PCRU

#840 Zavie's Zero Club

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] A fib

" CML " < >

Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 1:09 AM

 

My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100.

This is what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They

took him off solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his

medicine, but has not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood thinner.

Could someone tell me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I have a

friend who had embolisms in her lungs after breast cancer and she has to take

coumidin for her blood, so I am confused. I suppose it could be used for

several things. Zavie, why do you take it, if you don't mind piping in on this

subject. I can we can all learn something from this topic.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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Sounds just like what they told my Dad.

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] A fib

" CML " < >

Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 1:09 AM

 

My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100. This is

what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They took him off

solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his medicine, but has

not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood thinner. Could someone tell

me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I have a friend who had embolisms

in her lungs after breast cancer and she has to take coumidin for her blood, so

I am confused. I suppose it could be used for several things. Zavie, why do you

take it, if you don't mind piping in on this subject. I can we can all learn

something from this topic.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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Hi Lottie,

I take Coumadin because I have a mechanical aortic valve. This was installed

in 1991. The blood has to be thinned in order to prevent blood clots from

forming on the valve and then leading to a stroke.

My INR is not stable so I have to test very often (every 2-3 weeks) and

adjust the amount of Coumadin that I take. I usually get the results before

my doctor and make the dose adjustment a day or two before she even gets to

see it.

It is a fine balance. If the blood is too thin, you will bruise and bleed

easily. If it is too thick then the risk of stroke is high.

Zavie

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html

Zavie (age 72)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

4.0 log reduction Dec/09

4.4 log reduction Apr/10

4.3 log reduction Oct/10

e-mail: <mailto:zmiller@...> zmiller@...

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lottie

Duthu

Sent: January-17-11 1:10 AM

CML

Subject: [ ] A fib

My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100. This

is what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They took

him off solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his

medicine, but has not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood

thinner. Could someone tell me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I

have a friend who had embolisms in her lungs after breast cancer and she has

to take coumidin for her blood, so I am confused. I suppose it could be used

for several things. Zavie, why do you take it, if you don't mind piping in

on this subject. I can we can all learn something from this topic.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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for the " newbie " here, what is INR ? Bobby

a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29

DX 5/1995

Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years

02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU

06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU

06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU

04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months

04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich.

01/2009 PCR 5.69

04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534

09/2009 PCR 0.01

11/2009 PCR 0.034

02/2010 PCRU

#840 Zavie's Zero Club

From: Zavie <zmiller@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] A fib

Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 11:57 AM

 

Hi Lottie,

I take Coumadin because I have a mechanical aortic valve. This was installed

in 1991. The blood has to be thinned in order to prevent blood clots from

forming on the valve and then leading to a stroke.

My INR is not stable so I have to test very often (every 2-3 weeks) and

adjust the amount of Coumadin that I take. I usually get the results before

my doctor and make the dose adjustment a day or two before she even gets to

see it.

It is a fine balance. If the blood is too thin, you will bruise and bleed

easily. If it is too thick then the risk of stroke is high.

Zavie

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html

Zavie (age 72)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

4.0 log reduction Dec/09

4.4 log reduction Apr/10

4.3 log reduction Oct/10

e-mail: <mailto:zmiller@...> zmiller@...

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lottie

Duthu

Sent: January-17-11 1:10 AM

CML

Subject: [ ] A fib

My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100. This

is what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They took

him off solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his

medicine, but has not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood

thinner. Could someone tell me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I

have a friend who had embolisms in her lungs after breast cancer and she has

to take coumidin for her blood, so I am confused. I suppose it could be used

for several things. Zavie, why do you take it, if you don't mind piping in

on this subject. I can we can all learn something from this topic.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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You are absolutely correct!  I don't believe a side effect of coumadin is a

sore

throat?

 ~Karine~

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Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 8:05:51 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] A fib

 

Sounds just like what they told my Dad.

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] A fib

" CML " < >

Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 1:09 AM

 

My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100. This is

what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They took him off

solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his medicine, but has

not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood thinner. Could someone tell

me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I have a friend who had embolisms

in her lungs after breast cancer and she has to take coumidin for her blood, so

I am confused. I suppose it could be used for several things. Zavie, why do you

take it, if you don't mind piping in on this subject. I can we can all learn

something from this topic.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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Hi Bobby,

I included a URL that points to everything you ever wanted to know about this

stuff.

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html

The normal INR value is 0.8 - 1.2

For people with a mechanical valve the want you to be at 2.5 - 3.5.

For most other conditions that require Coumadin they want you to be at 2.0 –

3.0.

Zavie

The Test

1. How is it used?

<http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html#how>

2. When is it ordered?

<http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html#when>

3. What does the test result mean?

<http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html#what>

4. Is there anything else I should know?

<http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html#is>

How is it used?

Since the Prothrombin time (PT) evaluates the ability of blood to clot properly,

it can be used to help diagnose bleeding. When used in this instance, it is

often used in conjunction with the PTT

<http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/aptt/glance.html> to

evaluate the function of all coagulation factors

<http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/coagulation_factors/sample\

..html> . Occasionally, the test may be used to screen patients for any

previously undetected bleeding problems prior to surgical procedures.

The International Normalized Ratio (INR) is used to monitor the effectiveness of

blood thinning drugs such as warfarin (Coumadin). These anti-coagulant

<javascript:%20optionsdisplay('../../../glossary/anticoagulant.html')> drugs

help inhibit the formation of blood clots. They are prescribed on a long-term

basis to patients who have experienced recurrent inappropriate blood clotting.

This includes those who have had heart attacks

<http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/conditions/heart_attack.html> ,

strokes <http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/conditions/stroke.html> ,

and deep vein thrombosis

<javascript:%20optionsdisplay('../../../glossary/thrombosis.html')> (DVT).

Anti-coagulant therapy may also be given as a preventative measure in patients

who have artificial heart valves and on a short-term basis to patients who have

had surgeries, such as knee replacements. The anti-coagulant drugs must be

carefully monitored to maintain a balance between preventing clots and causing

excessive bleeding.

Zavie (age 72)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

4.0 log reduction Dec/09

4.4 log reduction Apr/10

4.3 log reduction Oct/10

e-mail: <mailto:zmiller@...> zmiller@...

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ROBERTA

DOYLE

Sent: January-17-11 1:18 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] A fib

for the " newbie " here, what is INR ? Bobby

a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29

DX 5/1995

Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years

02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU

06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU

06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU

04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months

04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich.

01/2009 PCR 5.69

04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534

09/2009 PCR 0.01

11/2009 PCR 0.034

02/2010 PCRU

#840 Zavie's Zero Club

From: Zavie <zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> >

Subject: RE: [ ] A fib

<mailto:%40>

Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 11:57 AM

Hi Lottie,

I take Coumadin because I have a mechanical aortic valve. This was installed

in 1991. The blood has to be thinned in order to prevent blood clots from

forming on the valve and then leading to a stroke.

My INR is not stable so I have to test very often (every 2-3 weeks) and

adjust the amount of Coumadin that I take. I usually get the results before

my doctor and make the dose adjustment a day or two before she even gets to

see it.

It is a fine balance. If the blood is too thin, you will bruise and bleed

easily. If it is too thick then the risk of stroke is high.

Zavie

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html

Zavie (age 72)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

4.0 log reduction Dec/09

4.4 log reduction Apr/10

4.3 log reduction Oct/10

e-mail: <mailto:zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> >

zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca>

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Lottie

Duthu

Sent: January-17-11 1:10 AM

CML

Subject: [ ] A fib

My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100. This

is what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They took

him off solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his

medicine, but has not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood

thinner. Could someone tell me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I

have a friend who had embolisms in her lungs after breast cancer and she has

to take coumidin for her blood, so I am confused. I suppose it could be used

for several things. Zavie, why do you take it, if you don't mind piping in

on this subject. I can we can all learn something from this topic.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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[ ] A fib

" CML " < >

Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 1:09 AM

 

My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100. This is

what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They took him off

solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his medicine, but has

not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood thinner. Could someone tell

me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I have a friend who had embolisms

in her lungs after breast cancer and she has to take coumidin for her blood, so

I am confused. I suppose it could be used for several things. Zavie, why do you

take it, if you don't mind piping in on this subject. I can we can all learn

something from this topic.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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Thanks, I'll check it out.  i came home from the dr. today with two booklets on

coumadin and 8 pages of info onAfib, guess I'm well armed!

a ( Bobby ) Doyle, dob 12/17/29

DX 5/1995

Interferon 9 weeks/Hydroxyurea 5 years

02/2000 to 06/2002 Gleevec trial, OHSU

06/2002 Gleevec/Trisenox Trial, OHSU

06/2003 Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial, OHSU

04/2004 Sprycel Trial, MDACC, CCR in 10 months

04/2008 XL228 Trial, U of Mich.

01/2009 PCR 5.69

04/2009 Ariad Trial AP24534

09/2009 PCR 0.01

11/2009 PCR 0.034

02/2010 PCRU

#840 Zavie's Zero Club

From: Zavie <zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> >

Subject: RE: [ ] A fib

<mailto:%40>

Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 11:57 AM

Hi Lottie,

I take Coumadin because I have a mechanical aortic valve. This was installed

in 1991. The blood has to be thinned in order to prevent blood clots from

forming on the valve and then leading to a stroke.

My INR is not stable so I have to test very often (every 2-3 weeks) and

adjust the amount of Coumadin that I take. I usually get the results before

my doctor and make the dose adjustment a day or two before she even gets to

see it.

It is a fine balance. If the blood is too thin, you will bruise and bleed

easily. If it is too thick then the risk of stroke is high.

Zavie

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html

Zavie (age 72)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

4.0 log reduction Dec/09

4.4 log reduction Apr/10

4.3 log reduction Oct/10

e-mail: <mailto:zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> >

zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca>

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Lottie

Duthu

Sent: January-17-11 1:10 AM

CML

Subject: [ ] A fib

My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100. This

is what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They took

him off solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his

medicine, but has not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood

thinner. Could someone tell me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I

have a friend who had embolisms in her lungs after breast cancer and she has

to take coumidin for her blood, so I am confused. I suppose it could be used

for several things. Zavie, why do you take it, if you don't mind piping in

on this subject. I can we can all learn something from this topic.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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Hi Bobby,

I am sending you a link that is very good. The entire website is good and the

Arrhythmia/EP section is especially useful.

http://www.theheart.org/

>

>

>

> From: Zavie <zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> >

>

> Subject: RE: [ ] A fib

>

> <mailto:%40>

>

> Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 11:57 AM

>

>

>

> Hi Lottie,

>

>

>

> I take Coumadin because I have a mechanical aortic valve. This was installed

>

>

>

> in 1991. The blood has to be thinned in order to prevent blood clots from

>

>

>

> forming on the valve and then leading to a stroke.

>

>

>

> My INR is not stable so I have to test very often (every 2-3 weeks) and

>

>

>

> adjust the amount of Coumadin that I take. I usually get the results before

>

>

>

> my doctor and make the dose adjustment a day or two before she even gets to

>

>

>

> see it.

>

>

>

> It is a fine balance. If the blood is too thin, you will bruise and bleed

>

>

>

> easily. If it is too thick then the risk of stroke is high.

>

>

>

> Zavie

>

>

>

> http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/test.html

>

>

>

> Zavie (age 72)

>

>

>

> 67 Shoreham Avenue

>

>

>

> Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

>

>

>

> dxd AUG/99

>

>

>

> INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

>

>

>

> No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

>

>

>

> Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

>

>

>

> CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

>

>

>

> 2.8 log reduction Sep/05

>

>

>

> 3.0 log reduction Jan/06

>

>

>

> 2.9 log reduction Feb/07

>

>

>

> 3.6 log reduction Apr/08

>

>

>

> 3.6 log reduction Sep/08

>

>

>

> 3.7 log reduction Jan/09

>

>

>

> 3.8 log reduction May/09

>

>

>

> 3.8 log reduction Aug/09

>

>

>

> 4.0 log reduction Dec/09

>

>

>

> 4.4 log reduction Apr/10

>

>

>

> 4.3 log reduction Oct/10

>

>

>

> e-mail: <mailto:zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> > zmiller@...

<mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca>

>

>

>

> Tel: 613-726-1117

>

>

>

> Fax: 613-482-4801

>

>

>

> Cell: 613-282-0204

>

>

>

> ID: zaviem

>

>

>

> From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Lottie

>

>

>

> Duthu

>

>

>

> Sent: January-17-11 1:10 AM

>

>

>

> CML

>

>

>

> Subject: [ ] A fib

>

>

>

> My husband is having problems with his heart and his pulse is over 100. This

>

>

>

> is what is making him black out and fall and really hurt himself. They took

>

>

>

> him off solododol (?) and did some tests. The doctor also changed his

>

>

>

> medicine, but has not given him Coumidin. I thought that was a blood

>

>

>

> thinner. Could someone tell me the correlation between Coumidin and A Fib? I

>

>

>

> have a friend who had embolisms in her lungs after breast cancer and she has

>

>

>

> to take coumidin for her blood, so I am confused. I suppose it could be used

>

>

>

> for several things. Zavie, why do you take it, if you don't mind piping in

>

>

>

> on this subject. I can we can all learn something from this topic.

>

>

>

> Carpe Diem,

>

>

>

> Lottie Duthu

>

>

>

>

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Lottie,

It is very common to get atrial fibrillation afer open heart surgery because the

heart has been manipulated that is why post open heart patients are usually

placed on a drug called amiodarone post surgey to reven atrial fibrillation to

occur.   Now I know this drug can cause nausea if you do not take it with

food. 

Do you know what med made your husband so sick?  is he curently beng treated

for

atial fibrillation?  Some patients hae chronic atrial firillation and that is

ok

as longas the heart rate is controled and they are on an anticoagulant like

coumadin.

 ~Karine~

________________________________

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

CML < >

Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 11:20:38 PM

Subject: [ ] A Fib

 

Dear , our man of few words (but you make them count),

I know you meant for your article to go to the attention of Bobby, but I am

interested, because the doctor thinks that is what Jimmy has. His pulse rate is

high, as much as 202 and I understand that is not healthy, either. I jumped on

his case today to call the doctor and that it was his responsibility to discuss

it with him, just as I call and speak to my doctors and make my appointments.

I'm trying to learn all I can so I can pass it on

to him, so he will have a better understanding. Bobby explained about the

coumidin, so that is a little clearer. I want him to be as informed about his

own health matters, as a matter of general fact. There is no reason why in this

day and age we should not know more than our parents did and be able to ask

questions and expect the right answers, but we first have to know what questions

are the most pertinent. I know this was a problem for you, but the treatment you

had, I don't think is the right one for Jimmy. I think you had a de-fib and an

abalation. I think when they re-started his heart after his heart surgery, it

was off sync and the medicine he was taking was making him sicker and sicker. He

was blacking out and falling, not to mention the damage he did to himself when

he did. So..............if anyone has any information they they would be useful,

I would sincerely appreciate it.

Carpe Diem,

Lottie Duthu

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Lottie and all, I haven't been reading all the posts on afib, but my

mom has it and we have just come across a new medicine (pradaxa) that

is supposed to be much easier to take and work with than coumidin

(sp?). Maybe this has already been mentioned, but wanted everyone to

be aware that it's out there. The medicine has been on the market for

about 6 months and doesn't require all the blood work, etc. that

coumidin requires.

Gay

On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Lottie Duthu wrote:

> Dear , our man of few words (but you make them count),

> I know you meant for your article to go to the attention of Bobby,

> but I am interested, because the doctor thinks that is what Jimmy

> has. His pulse rate is high, as much as 202 and I understand that is

> not healthy, either. I jumped on his case today to call the doctor

> and that it was his responsibility to discuss it with him, just as I

> call and speak to my doctors and make my appointments. I'm trying to

> learn all I can so I can pass it on

> to him, so he will have a better understanding. Bobby explained

> about the coumidin, so that is a little clearer. I want him to be as

> informed about his own health matters, as a matter of general fact.

> There is no reason why in this day and age we should not know more

> than our parents did and be able to ask questions and expect the

> right answers, but we first have to know what questions are the most

> pertinent. I know this was a problem for you, but the treatment you

> had, I don't think is the right one for Jimmy. I think you had a de-

> fib and an abalation. I think when they re-started his heart after

> his heart surgery, it was off sync and the medicine he was taking

> was making him sicker and sicker. He was blacking out and falling,

> not to mention the damage he did to himself when he did.

> So..............if anyone has any information they they would be

> useful, I would sincerely appreciate it.

> Carpe Diem,

> Lottie Duthu

>

>

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Hi Lottie,

I assume Jimmy is seeing a cardiologist and the doctor should have no problem

diagnosing a-fib or a-flutter. I had two ablations to date, with the second two

years ago. I have stayed in sinus rhythm since. I still take warfarin and

sotalol. The warfarin/coumidin is used to prevent clots forming in the heart

which can travel to the brain or lungs and can cause stroke or death. Up until

the last ablation I did have quite a few cardioversions.

Rate or rhythm control are the primary forms of treatment. Rate control never

worked for me for any real length time, so I opted for rhythm control. I also

had heart rates low 200's, but 150 was " normal " for me. One thing that amazed

me, was the number of nurses that wrote down a normal pulse rate when I was in

a-fib. A cardiogram is the one sure way to tell if it's a-fib or a-flutter. I am

sending a link with more info.

Take care,

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/af/af_what.html

>

> Dear , our man of few words (but you make them count),

> I know you meant for your article to go to the attention of Bobby, but I am

interested, because the doctor thinks that is what Jimmy has. His pulse rate is

high, as much as 202 and I understand that is not healthy, either. I jumped on

his case today to call the doctor and that it was his responsibility to discuss

it with him, just as I call and speak to my doctors and make my appointments.

I'm trying to learn all I can so I can pass it on

> to him, so he will have a better understanding. Bobby explained about the

coumidin, so that is a little clearer. I want him to be as informed about his

own health matters, as a matter of general fact. There is no reason why in this

day and age we should not know more than our parents did and be able to ask

questions and expect the right answers, but we first have to know what questions

are the most pertinent. I know this was a problem for you, but the treatment

you had, I don't think is the right one for Jimmy. I think you had a de-fib and

an abalation. I think when they re-started his heart after his heart surgery,

it was off sync and the medicine he was taking was making him sicker and sicker.

He was blacking out and falling, not to mention the damage he did to himself

when he did. So..............if anyone has any information they they would be

useful, I would sincerely appreciate it.

> Carpe Diem,

> Lottie Duthu

>

>

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