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In a message dated 10/13/2001 3:15:30 PM Central Daylight Time,

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> I think this is just muscle twitches - not parasites moving around your

> body. It might be sugar that triggers the muscle twitches - but it might

> not be! Plenty of people get muscle twitches right before they go to sleep.

> I doubt that it's parasites.

>

>

I have CONSTANT muscle twitches on my legs, and that is after months of

parasite treatment as well as a parasite test that came back negative. I'm

of the opinion that the muscle twitching is a mineral deficiency. I have cut

back on a lot of the vitamins/minerals I was taking, and as a result these

twitches have increased in frequency.

annette

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Do you do a lot of exercise or work out with weights? Sometimes

working out a muscle too hard will cause this.

Liz K.

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> I have the same problem...... But its a little different and

usually occurs

> right before I fall asleep..... Their like muscle twitches... Like

my arms

> will just jerk really quickly for no reason while i'm resting or

> sleeping..... Does anybody else have this? This doesnt happen to

me every

> night... Its interesting too because it happened to me after I ate

another

> bowl of Froot Loops last night again......lol.... Those damn froot

loops..

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When I was trying to determine Younger Son's gut bug problem, I was

told to use Wormwood for parasites. The health food store had

some " good " brand of wormwood plus a few other things in it.

My son didn't end up having parasites but this was the

recommendation. Just an idea.

.

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At 13:33 15.04.2002 -0500, you wrote:

>I've been web searching parasites and it seems that they are pretty common.

>What is puzzling is that conventional AMA doctors _never_ take parasitic

>infestation into consideration as a possibility in the development or root

>cause of any disease.

The reason is very simple.

Doctor's never take into consideration something that they cannot diagnose.

Doctor's can't diagnose parasites, and doctors can't diagnose intrahepatic

stones.

There are only two laboratories in the USA, that we know of, which are

competent to diagnose the presence of parasites in the colon. BUT, even

they can make a mistake. Recognizing microscopic parasitic eggs in the

feces is much harder job then finding bacteria, or yeast. They are:

Meridian Valley Labs.

24030 132nd Ave. SE

Kent, Washington 98042

(800) 234-6825

Great Smokies Labs.

18 A Regent Park Blvd.

Asheville, North Carolina 28806

(800) 522-4762

You might also find a competent physician in your area by contacting these

labs for that information.

Don't bother sending specimens to local laboratories. Even the CDC (Center

for Disease Control) in Atlanta says that local labs are less than 1/50th

as accurate at finding parasites as the laboratories I have listed.

Physicians who would send specimens to their local laboratories don't know

what they are doing in this area.

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Hi Betsy,

I agree completely. Not only that, bacteria is a cause of many problems

also. They are now just finding out that it can affect hearts. Also, when

my doc diagnosed me as having asthma, he checked me and found a bacteria

that is directly related to this condition. Docs need to be looking at

parasites and bacteria in their first assessment of patients more often.

God bless,

KJ

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Moe,

I respect what you are saying but you by your own words

do not have any experience with rexall showcase, all the

products have scientific background and wholistic healing

properties,, I am doing the cleanse while tx for hep c

and I have never felt better with the exception of the

fatique which is being addressed with procrit... I think

you should look at this product before you make up your

mind,,, www.unicity.com and look at paraway pak,, jackie

> Hi Jackie,

> We've watched a lot of people parasite cleanse, including actual worms on

> the colonic tables that have gotten loose. There's a great clinic in San

> that does ONLY this. They work with every kind of parasite

> cleanse. Here's the short end of parasite cleansing. It's temporary if the

> primary problem of diseased and weakened tissues have not been

> addressed. Second, you create a WORSE problem when you cleanse parasites

> than when you began, if you don't first consider WHY the parasites are

> there. Third, the very best products for parasite cleanses that I am

> aware of, are from a company in Colorado that makes homeopathic remedies

> for them, and the DNR parasite drops and body soaks. http:/./www.dnrinc.com.

>

> If you are parasite cleansing you WILL have side effects if the products

> work. That's just the facts. Most people don't get results from their

> products, so they don't realize how bad it really is inside there body.

>

> Since I'm a practitioner, I wouldn't use anything but energetic products

> for parasite cleansing, and I would never ask anyone to cleanse who has

> something as Hep C active in the body, without proper nutritional support

> or counseling.

>

> I don't have any experience with the Rexall products, but bang for your

> buck, it makes more sense for the body to become mineral rich and properly

> alkalized, use a little MSM daily and a $20 bottle of homeopathic or DNR

> energetic remedy to kick out what the body is already pushing out. Optimal

> health is what clears the body of parasites. See my earlier post. A

> healthy, mineral rich body clears parasites on it's own, and doesn't need

> harsh cleansing, ever. How to get the body healthy is really a function of

> how clean you can get the blood. Clean blood, clean body. Understanding

> the life of a red blood cell is also helpful to know, it has about a 90

> -120 day lifecycle. Every day you make new ones. But it's actually going

> to be at LEAST four months before any real lasting results can be

> seen, simply because the body lacks the carriers for nutrition that it needs.

>

> Also, parasite cleansing goes best around the full moon, so now's the time

> to get ready for a " cleanse " . Personally, cleansing without building up

> the body violates the natural order of how the body heals. ABC, Activate,

> Build and Cleanse. Any herbalist will tell you this.

>

> I haven't even touched the energetic aspects of why we have parasites. The

> answer exists on many levels. Ask yourself the question, " what in my life

> is sucking me dry and robbing me of my vitality and what I need to be

> WHOLE? " Anyone with parasites will have a lot of answers to that

> question. We're holistic, holy beings. We need to identify with that

> disease doesn't manifest in the physical until it enters the etheric body,

> either through our emotional or spiritual life. We're not pieces and parts

> of blood, tissue, organs or bone. We're whole. Healing means integrating

> the whole body and all of it's needs.

>

> My first healing crisis that I ever had, personally, was when I was

> parasite cleansing with a homeopathic formula and a product that doesn't

> exist anymore called Master Formula. Now I use a product called

> SuperGreens and we're seeing the very same results that we saw with Master

> Formula, faster and quicker to boot.

>

> Also, given the digestive condition of most people with parasites, I

> wouldn't say that much of what's used in the body, via capsules or even

> herbs is assimilated at all without the additional use of digestive aids,

> enzymes, etc. Most of what we're taking orally doesn't even become

> available to the body unless it's in colloidal form, bypassing the

> digestion and missing co-factors necessary for assimilation. How many

> people are chocking down calcium pills and getting absolutely nothing from

> them, because they lack MAGNESIUM for assimilation? Judging by the sales

> at Walmart, of JUST calcium on the shelves, I'd say MOST PEOPLE, not just a

> few.

>

> The problem that we really have, Jackie, isn't a lack of parasite cleansing

> herbal tinctures or products. What the problem is that we lack of

> understanding of how our bodies heal, and what they really need to be well.

>

> I know it sounds inane, but a healthy body is the cure. I've said this

> over and over, and it's become somewhat of a mantra for me in the past six

> years. Diabetics get rid of diabetes by increasing their overall vitality,

> level of exercise, and baseline nutrition. Same with other serious

> disease. Eliminating toxicities and resolving deficiencies is best left to

> professionals like myself who have accurate and reliable ways to test the

> body energetically. We can do more harm by singleton supplementation

> than we help if, if we're not careful. Listening to hype about taking the

> calcium supplements and ignoring magnesium supplementation is one way we

> are harmed, because inorganic calciums become bone spurs and kidney stones,

> creating other more serious impairments.

>

> No, I'm not a fan of parasite cleansing, any more than I'd be a fan of

> bandaids for a chainsaw wound.

>

> Warmest regards,

> Moe

>

> PS. This post applies to other work I'm doing, so I'm going to forward

> this widely.

>

>

> Heal with Light from the Inside!

> Crave SUNLIGHT not SUGAR!!

>

> SuperGreens and Prime pH from InnerLight ALKALIZES AND ENERGIZES!

> " A problem with Fat is a problem with ACID, not diet or nutrition or lack

> of exercise!! "

> Toll-free recorded information !!! 1-800-780-9464

>

> http://www.innerlightinc.com/mosaicbymoe

> FMI mailto:mosaicbymoe@...

>

> The doctor of the future will give no medicine,

> but will interest his patient the care of the human frame,

> in diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease.

> ~ Edison

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Moe,

These products ARE working for me and the only side

effect I am having is and increase in amount of bowel

movements and some gas,, thats it,, jackie

PS I KNOW it is working, I can see it is working,,

> Hi Jackie,

> We've watched a lot of people parasite cleanse, including actual worms on

> the colonic tables that have gotten loose. There's a great clinic in San

> that does ONLY this. They work with every kind of parasite

> cleanse. Here's the short end of parasite cleansing. It's temporary if the

> primary problem of diseased and weakened tissues have not been

> addressed. Second, you create a WORSE problem when you cleanse parasites

> than when you began, if you don't first consider WHY the parasites are

> there. Third, the very best products for parasite cleanses that I am

> aware of, are from a company in Colorado that makes homeopathic remedies

> for them, and the DNR parasite drops and body soaks. http:/./www.dnrinc.com.

>

> If you are parasite cleansing you WILL have side effects if the products

> work. That's just the facts. Most people don't get results from their

> products, so they don't realize how bad it really is inside there body.

>

> Since I'm a practitioner, I wouldn't use anything but energetic products

> for parasite cleansing, and I would never ask anyone to cleanse who has

> something as Hep C active in the body, without proper nutritional support

> or counseling.

>

> I don't have any experience with the Rexall products, but bang for your

> buck, it makes more sense for the body to become mineral rich and properly

> alkalized, use a little MSM daily and a $20 bottle of homeopathic or DNR

> energetic remedy to kick out what the body is already pushing out. Optimal

> health is what clears the body of parasites. See my earlier post. A

> healthy, mineral rich body clears parasites on it's own, and doesn't need

> harsh cleansing, ever. How to get the body healthy is really a function of

> how clean you can get the blood. Clean blood, clean body. Understanding

> the life of a red blood cell is also helpful to know, it has about a 90

> -120 day lifecycle. Every day you make new ones. But it's actually going

> to be at LEAST four months before any real lasting results can be

> seen, simply because the body lacks the carriers for nutrition that it needs.

>

> Also, parasite cleansing goes best around the full moon, so now's the time

> to get ready for a " cleanse " . Personally, cleansing without building up

> the body violates the natural order of how the body heals. ABC, Activate,

> Build and Cleanse. Any herbalist will tell you this.

>

> I haven't even touched the energetic aspects of why we have parasites. The

> answer exists on many levels. Ask yourself the question, " what in my life

> is sucking me dry and robbing me of my vitality and what I need to be

> WHOLE? " Anyone with parasites will have a lot of answers to that

> question. We're holistic, holy beings. We need to identify with that

> disease doesn't manifest in the physical until it enters the etheric body,

> either through our emotional or spiritual life. We're not pieces and parts

> of blood, tissue, organs or bone. We're whole. Healing means integrating

> the whole body and all of it's needs.

>

> My first healing crisis that I ever had, personally, was when I was

> parasite cleansing with a homeopathic formula and a product that doesn't

> exist anymore called Master Formula. Now I use a product called

> SuperGreens and we're seeing the very same results that we saw with Master

> Formula, faster and quicker to boot.

>

> Also, given the digestive condition of most people with parasites, I

> wouldn't say that much of what's used in the body, via capsules or even

> herbs is assimilated at all without the additional use of digestive aids,

> enzymes, etc. Most of what we're taking orally doesn't even become

> available to the body unless it's in colloidal form, bypassing the

> digestion and missing co-factors necessary for assimilation. How many

> people are chocking down calcium pills and getting absolutely nothing from

> them, because they lack MAGNESIUM for assimilation? Judging by the sales

> at Walmart, of JUST calcium on the shelves, I'd say MOST PEOPLE, not just a

> few.

>

> The problem that we really have, Jackie, isn't a lack of parasite cleansing

> herbal tinctures or products. What the problem is that we lack of

> understanding of how our bodies heal, and what they really need to be well.

>

> I know it sounds inane, but a healthy body is the cure. I've said this

> over and over, and it's become somewhat of a mantra for me in the past six

> years. Diabetics get rid of diabetes by increasing their overall vitality,

> level of exercise, and baseline nutrition. Same with other serious

> disease. Eliminating toxicities and resolving deficiencies is best left to

> professionals like myself who have accurate and reliable ways to test the

> body energetically. We can do more harm by singleton supplementation

> than we help if, if we're not careful. Listening to hype about taking the

> calcium supplements and ignoring magnesium supplementation is one way we

> are harmed, because inorganic calciums become bone spurs and kidney stones,

> creating other more serious impairments.

>

> No, I'm not a fan of parasite cleansing, any more than I'd be a fan of

> bandaids for a chainsaw wound.

>

> Warmest regards,

> Moe

>

> PS. This post applies to other work I'm doing, so I'm going to forward

> this widely.

>

>

> Heal with Light from the Inside!

> Crave SUNLIGHT not SUGAR!!

>

> SuperGreens and Prime pH from InnerLight ALKALIZES AND ENERGIZES!

> " A problem with Fat is a problem with ACID, not diet or nutrition or lack

> of exercise!! "

> Toll-free recorded information !!! 1-800-780-9464

>

> http://www.innerlightinc.com/mosaicbymoe

> FMI mailto:mosaicbymoe@...

>

> The doctor of the future will give no medicine,

> but will interest his patient the care of the human frame,

> in diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease.

> ~ Edison

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What you are taking sounds real good, are you doing the diet? i have

parasites but can't get rid of them, i also have the zapper but haven't been

using it, right now i guess i'm just pure lazy to get with it! i wish you the

best, if you have any more questions please let us know, welcome to the

group. Mog

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Great Smokies routinely reports Dientamoeba Fragilis if you wnat to look for

it - we had it too. www.gsdl.com

HTH

Mandi in UK

> One parasited worth testing for is Dientamoeba Fragilis. I gather it's a

> " new kid " on the block with not a lot known about it. It is thought to be

> somehow associated with pin worm in as much as pin/thread worm is thought

> to be a vector for it. My child has had it twice in about 15months -

> treated initially and cleared on re testing but sometime later she had a

> reinfestation of worms followed by another round of dienamoeba fragilis.

> For her symptoms associated with the dientamoeba were very slight increase

> in temperature, she looked unwell - kind of sallow instead of normal

> healthy colour in her cheeks and her stools went pastey and pale.

> Speaking to the parasitologist who tested for this he said this is not a

> well recognised bug and many parasitologists would miss it unless they were

> aware of it and were specifically asked to look for it. Treatment

> unfortunatley is two to three weeks of heavy duty antibiotics (flagyl and

> iodoquinol or tetracycline - the later no being recommended for children as

> it discolours there developing teeth)

> bel

>

>

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There is an Australian site on D.Fragilis and parasites:

http://bara.idx.com.au/info/parasite/parasite_home.htm

Apparently testing is very specific and even a Great Smokies may not

be enough to pick up parasites. Other measures may be needed: purged

stool test, antibodies, ...? It's a good site about parasites and gut

problems in general. (The site is under re-construction so be patient

with it).

,

Brisbane, Australia

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Hi

That is alot of questions, I'll try to answer in your post

> I would be very interested in hearing about what happened with your son.

>

What type of doctor did the testing?

******Mummy Doctor!

Was Great Smokies the lab?

*****Yes, CDSA and Parasiteology

Did your > doctor offer an explanation for why your son has developed this?

>

****My Dr is a twit, he doesn't think they are problem. I believe most of us

have parasites, they just do more damage to some than others and have bigger

populations. They are difficult to avoid, wash all friut and veg well, avoid

salad bars (like we get to go anyway LOL), wash hands after loo and before

food etc

> How long has it been since you discovered he had parasites and yeast?

**** 2 years

Have > you found anything that has successfully treated it?

*****Not sure as can't afford retest. Initially, the handling lab (we are in

UK) recommended Biocidin, a herbal liquid with all sorts in as we had 2 types

of Candida at 4+, no friendly bacteria at all and 2 types parasites -

Blastocytis Hominus and Dientamoeba Fragillis. Biocidin is usually good for

both. Most noteable advice was get rid of the scFOS pronto! We had started

this prior to testing. Retest showed Biocidin worked on Candida Lambica,

lower level parasites.

After 3 months of this we did a 10 day course of Flagyl (Metronidazole) and

saw improvements in receptive langauge, began following one step commands for

first time ever. We have maintained those gains. But this doesn't make sense

as parasites have long life cycle, 3 months, how is 10 days going to work.

But maybe the Biocidin helped, I don't know.

Have you had to adjust > his diet very much?

********No

Can I assume he is on enzymes?

*****On yes, HNI for 12 months now, came off diet with first dose. Recent

addition of No Fenol is great for yeast

Did he start on them > before or after you learned of the yeast and parasites?

> ******after, about 12 months

> Sorry for so many questions...lol.

No worries. Will add here that Sam's parasites were reported in first test as

'many' and the second test as 'some'. I recently saw another mum post her kid

was 4+, so I'm now thinking maybe are problem wasn't so big, maybe wouldn't

have been a problem at all but for the scFOS.

Also another e-friend saw practitioner who recommended 15 drops Black Walnut

Oil three times daily for 2 months, followed by same of Wormwood oil. This

knocks the little critters at different stages of development. I was going to

start this but we are chelating instead, attacking the cause of this STUFF!

http://www.mdheal.org/parasites.htm

This is a link for info

HTH

Mandi in UK

> hanks.

> Slvr

>

n a message dated 04/06/2002 18:38:42 GMT Daylight Time, slvrmoon2@...

writes:

> Subject: FOS/scFOS

>

> HI mary

> I'm not sure if FOS and scFOS are the same thing, but it also FEEDS

> PARASITES, I beleive preferentially to the good flora. We didn't know this

> and were giving to Sam for 4 months, he had 2 types parasites and 2 types

> yeast at 4+ after testing and no good guys after 4 months of Priobiogold. I

>

> would be careful unless you know parasites are NOT a problem.

> HTH

> Mandi in UK

> >>

>

>

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Does anyone know of a good treatment for parasites. When doing NAET testing

both of my children came back high on parasites and I'd like to try some

treatments.

Thanks

tina

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Black Walnut Oil 2 months followed by Wormwood Oil 2 months - very long life

cycle the parasites..............

> Does anyone know of a good treatment for parasites. When doing NAET

> testing

> both of my children came back high on parasites and I'd like to try some

> treatments.

>

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Tina,

Blackwalnut.

nne

> Does anyone know of a good treatment for parasites. When doing

NAET testing

> both of my children came back high on parasites and I'd like to

try some

> treatments.

> Thanks

> tina

>

>

>

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GSE worked well against blastocystis hominis for my son.

Margaret

> Does anyone know of a good treatment for parasites. When doing

NAET testing

> both of my children came back high on parasites and I'd like to try

some

> treatments.

> Thanks

> tina

>

>

>

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Well, they maybe pin worms, I looked up everything on the net in ref to this,

she shows all the signs, red anus (although she constantly fights yeast), not

sleeping well (can be yeast as well). Last night I put these detoxing foot pads

on her, this am, I found little worm like things in her diaper, they were dead

(only two of them, but still). I'm thinking pin worms, could it be something

else as well?

I called the dr and he's called in vermox for her, I looked everywhere and can't

find anyone who sells Pin-X, Pin-rid, or that type of thing, so I had to call

her dr.

Got any thoughts?

Karyn

[ ] Parasites

If you are speaking of pin worms, than you can buy medication over the counter

to get rid of them. Any pharmacy will carry it. What are her symptoms?

a

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from:

http://botanical.com/site/by_you/article_greatprotector/garlic.html<http://botan\

ical.com/site/by_you/article_greatprotector/garlic.html>

" Garlic also possesses the ability to inhibit the growth of parasites in the

intestines, including amoebas which cause dysentery. It should be noted that

amoebic dysentery is a potentially serious condition which requires the

assistance of a trained physician. Garlic has also been used in folk medicine in

many parts of the world to treat pinworms, an annoying but generally harmless

intestinal parasite. "

From the above, it kills the dysentery amoebas but from what I've read it leaves

the 'friendly' stuff intact. How much? Hard to say. I've regularly eaten 1 or

2 raw cloves a day which has warded off colds for me (had 2 or 3 a year before

garlic, 1 in perhaps 2 or 3 years after), but when I kick it up to 5 or 6 my

sinuses clear up, a problem I've lived with from early childhood. Would suggest

at least 2 cloves a day if you can do it, for 2 or 3 weeks for parasites. It

gets the parasites out of the blood stream too so to have worms come out the

nose (as someone posted earlier) is not the least bit surprising to me.

Jay

<<Hi- does the garlic kill the amaeba type parasites or just the worms... I

was wondering how the garlic does on parasties like blasto??? And how many

garlic gloves is best? I love garlic raw, but dont want to do too many. I did

4

last night, but didnt feel anything.

THanks

janis>>

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>The product used was not homeopathic but herbal. In canada the

name for the childrens treatment is ParaGONE The product in the states is

>called Paranil Jr.

Paranil Jr.

Proprietary Herbal Water Extract Blend

Black Walnut (hulls)

Fennel (seeds)

Sage (leaves)

Male Fern (root)

Pau D’Arco

Black Walnut

To sum up, extracts from walnut trees, or any members of the Juglandaceae

family, are useful for many things, but not for medications, since juglone

is potentially toxic and raw extracts are potentially allergenic.

Fortunately, there is no juglone present in the fruits of these trees, so

walnuts and pecans are a healthy and delicious addition to foods, which

makes them agriculturally valuable.

*****

PAU D'ARCO (Tabebuia impetiginosa, Tabebuia avellanedae, Tabebuia

heptaphylla)

CLINICAL SUMMARY

Derived from the bark of the tree. This herb has been used traditionally to

treat cancer and infections. No clinical studies support its use for these

claims. The quinone compounds are known to possess toxic effects and

therefore this product should not be recommended. Reported adverse events

include nausea, vomiting, dizziness and anemia (4). Use of this product may

increase the activity of anticoagulants (5).

***********

Male Fern root

Latin name: Dryopteris filix-mas

Other names: Aspidium, Bear's Paw Root, Knotty Brake, Sweet Brake

A Remedy For

Taken internally, Male Fern root is a potent remedy for bandworms and liver

flukes.

***** However, the root is so poisonous that officials do not recommend its

use, advising other, less toxic treatments instead.*******

Preparations of Male Fern fronds, which are one-tenth as potent as the root,

are applied externally for muscle and nerve pain, earache, toothache,

teething, sleeplessness, rheumatism, and sciatica. Their effectiveness has

not, however, been verified.

In homeopathic medicine, Male Fern is used for worms and problems with the

lymph system.

What It Is; Why It Works

For centuries, until better alternatives were discovered, Male Fern was an

accepted treatment for worms. Smoke from the fern was said to drive away

serpents, gnats, and " other noisome creatures. " Modern research has revealed

antiviral properties. The plant is found in temperate zones worldwide.

Avoid If...

Not for children under 4, pregnant women, the elderly, and those with

anemia, diabetes, a heart condition, kidney problems, or liver disease.

Special Cautions

Even at recommended doses, Male Fern is quite toxic, producing side effects

such as diarrhea, nausea, queasiness, severe headache, and vomiting.

How to Prepare

Check with your doctor. Numerous alternatives are now available.

Typical Dosage

Remember, therapeutic dosages often prove toxic.

Overdosage

Overdosage can lead to heart, kidney and liver damage, mental disorders,

spasms, paralysis, and vision damage, including blindness. Fatalities have

occurred, particularly among children. If you suspect an overdose, seek

emergency medical attention immediately.

http://health./health/Alternative_Medicine/Herbal_Remedies_Tree/Herbal_\

Remedies/male_fern/

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PAU D'ARCO (Tabebuia impetiginosa, Tabebuia avellanedae, Tabebuia

heptaphylla)

CLINICAL SUMMARY

Derived from the bark of the tree. This herb has been used traditionally to

treat cancer and infections. No clinical studies support its use for these

claims. The quinone compounds are known to possess toxic effects and

therefore this product should not be recommended. Reported adverse events

include nausea, vomiting, dizziness and anemia (4). Use of this product may

increase the activity of anticoagulants (5).

SCIENTIFIC NAME

Tabebuia impetiginosa, Tabebuia avellanedae, Tabebuia heptaphylla

ALSO KNOWN AS

Ipe, lapacho, purple lapacho, trumpet bush and taheebo

PURPORTED USES

Cancer treatment

Candida yeast infection

Parasitic infections

Respiratory infections

CONSTITUENTS

Quinone compounds: Lapachol, beta-lapachone, xyloidone (naphthoquinones) and

tabebuin (anthroquinone) are considered to be the active ingredients.

Flavonoids: Quercetin

Alkaloids: Tecomine, hydroxybenzoic acid, and steroidal saponins

(1) (2)

MECHANISM OF ACTION

Unknown. Lapachol and beta-lapachone have demonstrated antibacterial,

antifungal (fungistatic), and anti-malarial activity.

(2) (3)

WARNINGS

Quinone compounds are known to possess toxic effects. The effectiveness of

pau d’arco for the treatment of cancer or any other condition remains

unproven and must not be recommended.

ADVERSE REACTIONS

Reported: Nausea, vomiting, dizziness, anemia, bleeding, and discoloration

of urine

(4)

DRUG INTERACTIONS

Anticoagulants / Antiplatelets: Pau d'arco may potentiate effects.

(5)

LAB INTERACTIONS

May increase PT / APTT / INR

LITERATURE SUMMARY AND CRITIQUE

Adequate clinical studies have not been performed on pau d’arco to confirm

efficacy for any claim.

http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/11571.cfm?recordid=399

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Black Walnut

I have good news and bad news. The good news is that work on compounds

isolated from walnut trees has been going on since the last century, so a

great deal is known about their potential medical value. The bad news is

that the only biologically active compound unique to walnut trees is not a

good medication: it kills plants, poisons other mammals, and is less

efficacious as a therapeutic than other drugs.

Walnut trees contain a toxin called Juglone, which is a naphthaquinone found

in all parts of plants of the walnut family, Jugandaceae (including walnuts,

pecans, and hickories). Juglone has been identified as the toxin involved in

black walnut toxicosis1, an equine ailment afflicting horses and ponies that

ingest black walnut shavings. These animals get laminitis (an inflammation

of the feet around the hooves) which makes them lame, as they refuse to lift

their painful feet. Even topical application of juglone to the horses' feet

caused local skin irritation. Juglone is strongly phytotoxic (it kills

plants). While some gardeners find this useful as a weedkiller, other

gardeners with Walnut trees in their yards fight to keep plants near the

tree from dying off as the juglone leaches from the roots into the soil.

Juglone also has broad spectrum antimicrobial activity, killing many

bacteria and fungi2. In fact, bark from the Persian walnut (Juglans regia

L.) is used in some countries as a toothbrush and as a dye for coloring the

lips for cosmetic purposes3. It also increased the pH of saliva, so brushing

the teeth with this bark may improve oral hygiene. However, some hazardous

effects on oral tissue from the topical cosmetic application of Persian

walnut have also been demonstrated 4. Since other herbs and barks with

better hygenic qualities exist5, the benefits of using Persian walnut are

not outweighed by the risks.

The antibiotic, antimycotic, phytotoxic, and poisonous activities of juglone

are probably all related. In fact, biochemical analyses have shown that

juglone inhibits several essential enzymes which are involved in cellular

pathways found in almost all organisms. One such inhibited enzyme, the K+

channel which is required for cellular depolarization and nerve signalling

6, may account for the mild sedative effect when juglone has been given to

animals intravenously. In fact, the toxic nature of juglone makes it a

candidate for chemotherapy7, except that continued usage causes cataracts.

Although Juglone has not been proven acutely toxic in humans, walnut trees

pose an allergic threat to many people. Of all the allergenic trees, pollen

extracts of Hickory elicit some of the highest allergic reactions, while

Black Walnut pollen elicit more moderate reactions, that are still much

worse than reactions to Maple and Elm pollens8. Similarly, walnut oil that

has undergone less processing at lower temperatures tends to demonstrate

qualitatively greater allergenicity and higher protein concentrations,

making it a threat to patients with allergy, depending on the method of

manufacture and processing of the oil9 .

To sum up, extracts from walnut trees, or any members of the Juglandaceae

family, are useful for many things, but not for medications, since juglone

is potentially toxic and raw extracts are potentially allergenic.

Fortunately, there is no juglone present in the fruits of these trees, so

walnuts and pecans are a healthy and delicious addition to foods, which

makes them agriculturally valuable.

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/may98/893971900.Me.r.html

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There is another one called Bioclear that my son and I

used. It was herbal and very powerful stuff. I'm

sure that Dr. G would not agree to its use now. We

did this pre Dr. G. It really cleared up my bowel

problems, but they are right back with time. It's

about time for me to have a colonoscopy, I guess. I

wish that camera one worked better. (Where you

swallow the mini camera and it takes pix. That sounds

much better.) Barb

--- TAMMY <tammyblanchette2002@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> I wanted to correct a mistake I made in a posting

> responding to the parasite treatments. The product

> used was not homeopathic but herbal. In canada the

> name for the childrens treatment is ParaGONE by

> renew life I don't have a web site but you can call

> 1-800-830-4778 and press 3 when you hear the auto

> attendant for cust. service.The product in the

> states is called Paranil Jr.by dr. natura cust.

> service 1-800-877-0414 the web site is

> www.drnatura.com/8884.php

> hope this is helpful. again sorry for the mistake

>

>

> Tammy

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My dr ordered a blood test for me yesterday to test for H Pylori. I

asked him about parasites and he said if I had them that my white

cell count should be high.  Does anyone know if this is true? 

The common treatment for h pylori is lots of heavy antibiotics. Been there

done that and got Candida (G)

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You should look at Grapefruit seed extract.

http://www.pureliquidgold.com/parasites1.htm

You can get it at the local healthfood store for cheap.

The only possible side effect is a herxheimer reaction explained below. (It

is a die-off reaction from the bad stuff and is actually a good thing but

you will feel crappy for a few days)

http://www.nutriteam.com/herx.htm

RE: parasites

My dr ordered a blood test for me yesterday to test for H Pylori. I

asked him about parasites and he said if I had them that my white

cell count should be high.  Does anyone know if this is true? 

The common treatment for h pylori is lots of heavy antibiotics. Been there

done that and got Candida (G)

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Most people have parasites. (Candida is a parasite!) And if you have

animals, probability that you have them is very high.

parasites

> My dr ordered a blood test for me yesterday to test for H Pylori. I

> asked him about parasites and he said if I had them that my white

> cell count should be high. Does anyone know if this is true?

> Charisse

>

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