Diarrhea

[Guest guest]

Hello,

You would not believe what helped me. I was extremely ill after a

surgical procedure. My home health care nurse had me use a sugar free

Metamucil.

I thought she was nuts, but the fiber absorbes the extra liquid and it stops

the diarrhea. She said not to use it too much so you are constipated. But

use your own judgement. I did it every other day.

Worked for me, I would have never thought of it.

Connie, MI

PS. Also did Diflucan, Acidophilus, ect. But was too ill to stop

antibiotics. I had a pseudamonous (sp) infection.

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Hi all, I've been on and off this list for a while now and am hoping some of

you can help. My mother in law has been so sick for about year with

" irritable bowel syndrome " She has agreed to try a parasite cleanse, but

she has a concern because her main symptom is diarrhea, which she has

constantly, and she is worried that these cleanses will make her diarrhea

worse. Also she says she can't tolerate most medicines. How do I appease

her on this? It is true that Paragone, which she was thinking of trying ,

will make you go to the bathroom. Maybe she should take straight cloves,

walnut hull and wormwood instead. Any ideas? I dont want her to get

discouraged and quit.

Thanks a lot.

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Me and my whole family are using paragone. For the first 3 days on the

program, it seemed we were all a little constipated, but not bad. After

that there was regular BM, some a little loose, but no diarrhea. Diarrhea

is not good in any cleanse as it causes you to loose minerals. If she does

get a little diarrhea, tell her to cut the dosage in half for a few days

then increase.

Hope this helps,

Sherry

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> Hi all, I've been on and off this list for a while now and am hoping some

of

> you can help. My mother in law has been so sick for about year with

> " irritable bowel syndrome " She has agreed to try a parasite cleanse, but

> she has a concern because her main symptom is diarrhea, which she has

> constantly, and she is worried that these cleanses will make her diarrhea

> worse. Also she says she can't tolerate most medicines. How do I appease

> her on this? It is true that Paragone, which she was thinking of trying ,

> will make you go to the bathroom. Maybe she should take straight cloves,

> walnut hull and wormwood instead. Any ideas? I dont want her to get

> discouraged and quit.

>

> Thanks a lot.

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A therapist I know says he has had clients with IBS for many years that when

they went on Sonne's products, like pysillium and bentonite the IBS cleared

up very quickly. I know an elderly lady literally dying of diarrhea and

stomache upsets that was cured with Kombucha, which for some actually starts

the bowels moving. Whatever you do to clean and strengthen the colon and

intestinal tract helps with REGULATING them. Thus IBS can be eliminated

just as constipation. There is a wonderful product called perfect 7 from

sonne which also contains herbs which help with colon cleanses. It has the

pysillium and bentonite together. You can learn more about Kombucha on the

kombucha list at egroups.

Kris

Smart is believing only half of what you hear,

brilliant is knowing which half to believe.

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Hi Sara, your littermate from the 16th here. I also had that problem, and I

called Dana about it because it kept me up one nite. She said that happens

around 2 wks out, and said just take a little more citrucel, and if that

didnt work, it didnt hurt too much to take some immodium if needed to help

it. I still have days when I have it. It just seems to come and go. ,

post op 10/16 284/261

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Subj: Diarrhea

Date: 11-5-02 8:55:32 AM Eastern Standard Time

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MiniGastricBypass@...,

Hi,

I wonder if you all have any suggestions related to diarrhea. I'll be 3

weeks post-op on Wed. 11/6. I'm still on just fluids, yogurt, and required

medications. I had added several supplements, i.e., bran tablets and

glutamine and seemed to be doing OK until late last week. I started some

whey protein and started having diarrhea. I backed of the whey protein but

the diarrhea continued. I'm now back down to the fluids, yogurt and required

medications and still having diarrhea. I'm trying to stay on liquids for at

least one month. Do you all have any suggestions? Is this a sign my body

needs to go to Stage II? Also, have you all found that starting

shakes/supplements in a particular order helps, such as protein shakes for a

while, then bran, then glutamine, etc. Finally, have you all found that the

order in which you take things matters, such citrucel first, then pills, then

fluids, etc. I'm baffled about this as I didn't have any diarrhea until last

week. Thanks for any advise you can provide.

Sara

Surg. 10/16/02

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

I had my surgery 10/15 and I find that if I don't have the citrucel first in

the morning before I eat anything else I, too, am bothered with diarrhea. I

used to mix it with yogurt but I got to the point where I couldn't face the

yogurt in the morning so now I mix it with orange Gatorade. The one day I

didn't have the Citrucel first I couldn't leave the house all day. Hope this

is helpful.

Doris

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for the information--looks like your are loosing really well. I

decided not to weight until one month out, but I've definitely lost. Again,

thanks! Sara

[Guest guest]

, thanks for your feedback. I'm taking 1 tsp. of Citrucel 4X/day (twice

what's recommended in the manual). Should I increase to more than this?

Will increase the Pepto Bismol. Thanks! Sara

[Guest guest]

Thanks appreciate your feedback! Sara

[Guest guest]

Doris, thanks for your feedback. I'm mixing it in yogurt and still doing OK

with it but am printing your response in case I need a change later. Thanks!

Sara

[Guest guest]

thanks! I was either taking too much salt, not enough fluid, or the

bran or a combination. I backed off on salt, took additional Gatorade,

stopped the bran, and when I added protein shakes, everything cleared up.

I've tried 3 brands of protein shakes (powder), and just don't tolerate it.

But doing great now. Again, thanks! Sara

[Guest guest]

Sara... Do you do the protein shakes or not, or dont you tolerate them? Just

curious. Dont think my eyes are reading this right. I cant stomach the

protein in shakes or yogurt but have to find some way to take it ..

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Subj: Re: Diarrhea

Date: 11-22-02 10:56:50 AM Eastern Standard Time

From: ssdsgo@...

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thanks! I was either taking too much salt, not enough fluid, or the

bran or a combination. I backed off on salt, took additional Gatorade,

stopped the bran, and when I added protein shakes, everything cleared up.

I've tried 3 brands of protein shakes (powder), and just don't tolerate it.

But doing great now. Again, thanks! Sara

[Guest guest]

Hi Gang

My 2 cents

I still get diarrhea from ice cream, soup, milk shakes,

anything soft or liquid like that. usually within 1 half hour

For what it's worth.

MGB was 01/02/01 Almost 23 months out.

Regards, TommyB

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> Sara... Do you do the protein shakes or not, or dont you tolerate them?

Just

> curious. Dont think my eyes are reading this right. I cant stomach the

> protein in shakes or yogurt but have to find some way to take it ..

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> Subj: Re: Diarrhea

> Date: 11-22-02 10:56:50 AM Eastern Standard Time

> From: ssdsgo@...

> Reply-to: <A

HREF= " mailto: " > </A>

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> thanks! I was either taking too much salt, not enough fluid, or the

> bran or a combination. I backed off on salt, took additional Gatorade,

> stopped the bran, and when I added protein shakes, everything cleared up.

> I've tried 3 brands of protein shakes (powder), and just don't tolerate

it.

> But doing great now. Again, thanks! Sara

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[Guest guest]

Hi , I can tolerate the Adkins and AdvantEDGE premixed shakes, but I

have tried 3 different types of powders and they all give me diarrhea. Sara

[Guest guest]

>>> I recently started my 2-year old daughter on Peptizide, and she

has been having very loose stools each day since. I stopped it two

days ago, but the diarrhea is still there. It is not listed as a

side effect. Does anyone have any experience with this??

Yes, loose stools are a common side-effect of any enzyme because the

body is adjusting to more water and more food being processed. Each

food bond broken releases a molecule of water. One of my son's had

loose stools for a few days. There might be a delay because it can

take a couple of days for the stool to transit through the

intestines. It should stop very shortly. If it persists a few more

days please write back. At least you know the enzymes were breaking

food down!

.

[Guest guest]

My 2 year old son has been on enzymes (Kirkman) for 3 weeks. For the past 5

days, he has had very loose stools that are black, sticky and seem to have sandy

grit in them. The grit is hard to wipe off. Also, BM's have been only every

other day, not every day. Any ideas on what the grit is?

Pam

[Guest guest]

pep can alter the stomach flora in a helpful way but if there was

yeast or something......

oreganol seems to be selective against yeast

but a mineral regieme of non selenite selenium and zinc also seems to

be strongly anti fungal

> I recently started my 2-year old daughter on Peptizide, and she has

> been having very loose stools each day since. I stopped it two days

> ago, but the diarrhea is still there. It is not listed as a side

> effect. Does anyone have any experience with this??

[Guest guest]

--Thanks!! I didn't even think about that being the reason. I'll

let you know what happens.--Tod

-- In , " jornmatt <kjorn@t...> "

<kjorn@t...> wrote:

> >>> I recently started my 2-year old daughter on Peptizide, and she

> has been having very loose stools each day since. I stopped it two

> days ago, but the diarrhea is still there. It is not listed as a

> side effect. Does anyone have any experience with this??

>

> Yes, loose stools are a common side-effect of any enzyme because

the

> body is adjusting to more water and more food being processed. Each

> food bond broken releases a molecule of water. One of my son's had

> loose stools for a few days. There might be a delay because it can

> take a couple of days for the stool to transit through the

> intestines. It should stop very shortly. If it persists a few more

> days please write back. At least you know the enzymes were breaking

> food down!

>

> .

[Guest guest]

You may see increased urination for a short time as well. I remember

one particular afternoon my daughter peed every half hour for a few

hours! It, too evens out though. Just be prepared :-)

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In , " jornmatt <kjorn@t...> "

<kjorn@t...> wrote:

> >>> I recently started my 2-year old daughter on Peptizide, and she

> has been having very loose stools each day since. I stopped it two

> days ago, but the diarrhea is still there. It is not listed as a

> side effect. Does anyone have any experience with this??

>

> Yes, loose stools are a common side-effect of any enzyme because

the

> body is adjusting to more water and more food being processed. Each

> food bond broken releases a molecule of water. One of my son's had

> loose stools for a few days. There might be a delay because it can

> take a couple of days for the stool to transit through the

> intestines. It should stop very shortly. If it persists a few more

> days please write back. At least you know the enzymes were breaking

> food down!

>

> .

[Guest guest]

> My 2 year old son has been on enzymes (Kirkman) for 3 weeks. For

the past 5 days, he has had very loose stools that are black, sticky

and seem to have sandy grit in them. The grit is hard to wipe off.

Also, BM's have been only every other day, not every day. Any ideas

on what the grit is?

I have seen this on my nephews when I've changed them. They usually

got it after eating whole wheat,

[Guest guest]

> My 2 year old son has been on enzymes (Kirkman) for 3 weeks. For

the past 5 days, he has had very loose stools that are black, sticky

and seem to have sandy grit in them. The grit is hard to wipe off.

Also, BM's have been only every other day, not every day. Any ideas

on what the grit is?

Depending on a few other things, this sounds like a bowel impaction,

and the enzymes are trying to help with it but not being entirely

successful.

The black sticky stuff would be pieces of the impaction which are

pulled off by new bm which is slipping past the impaction. The entire

mess comes out as loose bm with sticky black grains, but the impaction

remains. BM would come either frequently, or not very often at all.

If the sandy grit is black, it is more of the same, or possibly also

yeast or bacteria. If the sandy grit is white, it can be pears, rice,

or a few other things.

If it is an impaction, you need to get it out. Talk to your child's

doctor.

Dana

[Guest guest]

--- In , " zoelle1995 " <rashikino@n...>

wrote:

> Once again I need advise..Machaela (8 years old tomorrow) has very

> loose stool and it seems more yellow..she only goes once a day but

> when she goes its very soft...I started her on a different vit c

> would this cause this??

For my kids, vitamin C can cause problems. So yes, might be the

different C.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Janet,

I get diarrhea from fatty foods....I know other people with arthritis that

get this too. Could it be that the high protein foods (such as meats) are also

high in fat? I can hardly eat anything with more than 25-30% fat during one

meal or it sets it off. Carbs don't seem to bother me if I keep the fat content

to a minimum. My meals are quite boring to say the least....but at least my

stomach feels better.

Debra!

[Guest guest]

Hi Debra,

My doctor (Gastro) confirmed the diarrhea was due to not being able to absorb

fat. Hi fat foods, as you said make it worse. Had a Barium GI which

confirmed I wasn't able to absorb and process fat. Can't remember the name of

the

meds he gave it. It worked, but for that episode. It came back here and there

because O food I ate, or stress!

Janet

[Guest guest]

Hi and ,

My kids had GI problems with GfCf as well. We are just getting started on the

Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD), (so I'm by no means an expert!), but you may

want to look into it. The websites and list for SCD have had discussions on why

SCD might be better for some of the kids who have trouble with the amount of

grain/sugars in the GfCf diet. www.pecanbread.com and a group

" pecanbread " would be good places to start reading. Also, the book Breaking the

Vicious Cycle by Elaine Gottschall.

Chelation, while necessary, can also cause increased yeast/bad gut bugs to

flare. Are you chelating yet?

Good luck!!!!

Lissy (also in the Twin Cities)

[ ] Diarrhea

Our 3 year old son was recently diagnosed with autism and we

implemented the gluten free casein free diet about 3 months ago. Things

were going great for awhile, but just within the last 2 weeks he has

been battling daily diarrhea and stomach cramps. We think it may be soy

intolerance (yougurt he eats) or sodium nitrate intolerance (Hebrew

National hot dogs that he eats). My wife and I being new to a GFCF

diet, just don't know what to do. ANY help out there would be greatly

appreciated!

ny and in Minneapolis-St. MN area

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