Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I wonder why it seems to work for some and not others? -- RE: [ ] Interesting Article ....tried colloidal silver?________________________________From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ellaina DreifachSent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Interesting ArticleAre they safe for the liver? I'm very concerned because I'vehad this incurable itching all over for days now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 > > I wonder why it seems to work for some and not others? > > -- Re: [ ] Interesting Article > > > > Are they safe for the liver? I'm very concerned because I've > had this incurable itching all over for days now. > Hi Bob, I would like to try out making my own CS as you do. Even though I get a good discount on the stuff I buy, I find myself not being able to use it full time because I can't always afford it. I have a son who just graduated from college with a degree in chemistry, so I'm sure he would help me if I have the right ingredients and stuff. I could also be able to give it to my 3 German Shepherds, one that has allergies and scratches her skin,ears and everything else. I know it works because I share mine with her when I have it. My 3 children are all grown so these dogs are like my family now. I noticed that you mentioned hydrogen peroxide. I understand if you buy the food grade H202 it will oxygenate your blood cells and tissues. I read everything I could find about it and found it is believed by many that disease, including cancer can't survive in a highly oxygenated environment. There is a book that someone is trying to get rich on called " The One Minute Miracle. " After reading the ad I was very sure the miracle they were selling for over $40 with S & H was food grade hydrogen peroxide. After doing a little investigating I found out I was right. I emailed them and told them I thought their price was pretty high to charge people that desperately want to get well but most can't afford to buy their book to find out something they can find for free if they know where to look. IMO it makes them just as low and greedy as the pharmaceutical giants they complain about. They are just smaller scaled.Anyway if anyone runs across the site for that book, you now know what they are selling. If you want to try it just put food grade H2O2 in a search box and you will find everything you need to know about how to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Great Pat...hope you a have another calm day with him I am off now for awhile...got to run around getting kids to therapy, home again for therapy and then back again. LOL......it's ALL I do. lol ---- it's worth it though...I'm just trying to be silly e From: "pkuenstler@..." <pkuenstler@...>autism Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:00:10 PMSubject: Re: interesting article Interesting to me too, thanks e. Pat KKarac had a good calm day at school and at my house too.I think he loves his siblings being gone and getting some attentionfrom his mother. PK interesting article at least to me http://autism. healingthreshold s.com/research/ brief-report- comparative- aba-and Finding the best videos just got easier. Try the NEW Truveo.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 ....replies inserted below. i had to snip out a ton of previous posts... please trim your messages folks. appropriate subject lines are cool too. > -----Original Message----- > > > Hi Bob, > I would like to try out making my own CS as you do. Even > though I get a good discount on the stuff I buy, I find > myself not being able to use it full time because I can't > always afford it. ....cheap and easy enough. if i were starting from scratch again, but today, i'd go for a silver puppy for all around value and performance. especially nice is their new econo model the " pocket puppy " , which is a silver puppy in a cheaper and easier to assemble form... that form has advantages i really prefer, which is to be able to use any size or shape vessel and silver because it connects with wire and clips instead of sitting on top of a jar and having silver wire push into it which is somewhat limiting. get a magnetic stir plate with it. www.silverpuppy.com i use the original machine i bought used and like it well enough i bought a new one for a backup. it has the advantages i describe above re the Pocket Puppy, plus a dial to select the concentration shutoff point... with a bit of trial and error you find the point on the dial giving the best results for your jar/silver and just always use that setting. the colloid master AC is a good value and reliable. www.wishgranted.com they don't say so there, but this machine benefits a LOT from a magnetic stir plate. a good meter is really good to have, but can be done without also. the HMdigital com-100 is about the best one around at an affordable price for CS use. read what Ode has to say about it at the Silver Puppy website. his price is about the same as the best deal i found on ebay a couple years ago... back then he was selling the other good meter, the hannah PWT. an exc source of silver for whenever you need more some day is www.atlasnova.com about the highest purity 99.997% fine silver wire around and at a fair price. he has nice laser pointer too, which along with a meter are nice to have but not absolutely needed at all... learn about the Tyndall Effect and seeing " sparklies " in your CS with the laser beam. good pure water is important, however using rainwater is better than nothing. i use RO + DI system, which reverse osmosis with carefully selected filter cartridges and an added de-ionizer stage that gives me water on demand that's consistently better than the distilled DW from the grocery store jugs, at least according to my meter readings and the clarity of my CS. store-bought DW is generally adequate to excellent... varies according to maintenance on the equipment at the bottler's near you. I have a son who just graduated from > college with a degree in chemistry, so I'm sure he would help > me if I have the right ingredients and stuff. ....have him read into the websites linked above, and if you dig around at www.wishgranted.com on their links there's a LOT to be learned there. I could also be > able to give it to my 3 German Shepherds, one that has > allergies and scratches her skin,ears and everything else. I > know it works because I share mine with her when I have it. > My 3 children are all grown so these dogs are like my family > now. ....there's a group for folks using CS with animals you might find valuable. i think it's SilverPets or something like that. I noticed that you mentioned hydrogen peroxide. I > understand if you buy the food grade H202 it will oxygenate > your blood cells and tissues. ....any H2O2 will do that, but it's best to get the FG to avoid ingesting stablizers in the dollar store etc stuff. in addition to the direct effects in the body from H2O2, when it reacts with CS it breaks down (reduces) larger particles into smaller ones, and the smallest ones into ions. so it can turn a golden CS crystal clear quickly. it makes the CS more powerful. some folks add some to their CS after it's made (at least a few days after or pretty colors happen) but i've found that over time (months) it apparently make it less stable and i get more metallic fallout in the bottom of the bottles. so i add nothing until ready to ingest... then i either put an oz of CS in a glass of H2O2 water, or swish and swallow the CS and chase it with the H2O2 water, hopefully activating the CS with the H2O2 some right in the body. I read everything I could find > about it and found it is believed by many that disease, > including cancer can't survive in a highly oxygenated > environment. .... yeah, H2O2 and Ozone act much alike and are powerful health tools for sure. there's a group for H2O2 and a couple for Ozone... all good. there's some gross but fascination videos on youtube or googlevideo of some giant (like an orange) tumors being treated by ozone injections. amazing. they dissolve and are sucked away as some yucky gooey liquid. There is a book that someone is trying to get > rich on called " The One Minute Miracle. " After reading the ad > I was very sure the miracle they were selling for over $40 > with S & H was food grade hydrogen peroxide. After doing a > little investigating I found out I was right. I emailed them > and told them I thought their price was pretty high to charge > people that desperately want to get well but most can't > afford to buy their book to find out something they can find > for free if they know where to look. IMO it makes them just > as low and greedy as the pharmaceutical giants they complain > about. They are just smaller scaled. ....yup. on the other hand, there might be folks out there who consider it the best $40 investment they ever made if it got them on a track that saved their butts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 That's my day too. Have a good day. Love and blessings, Pat K interesting article at least to me http://autism. healingthreshold s.com/research/ brief-report- comparative- aba-and Finding the best videos just got easier. Try the NEW Truveo.com. Finding the best videos just got easier. Try the NEW Truveo.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 > > ...replies inserted below. i had to snip out a ton of previous posts... > please trim your messages folks. appropriate subject lines are cool too. > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > Hi Bob, > > I would like to try out making my own CS as you do. Even > > though I get a good discount on the stuff I buy, I find > > myself not being able to use it full time because I can't > > always afford it. > > ...cheap and easy enough. > if i were starting from scratch again, but today, i'd go for a silver puppy > for all around value and performance. > especially nice is their new econo model the " pocket puppy " , which is a > silver puppy in a cheaper and easier to assemble form... that form has > advantages i really prefer, which is to be able to use any size or shape > vessel and silver because it connects with wire and clips instead of sitting > on top of a jar and having silver wire push into it which is somewhat > limiting. get a magnetic stir plate with it. www.silverpuppy.com > > i use the original machine i bought used and like it well enough i bought a > new one for a backup. it has the advantages i describe above re the Pocket > Puppy, plus a dial to select the concentration shutoff point... with a bit > of trial and error you find the point on the dial giving the best results > for your jar/silver and just always use that setting. the colloid master AC > is a good value and reliable. www.wishgranted.com they don't say so > there, but this machine benefits a LOT from a magnetic stir plate. > > a good meter is really good to have, but can be done without also. the > HMdigital com-100 is about the best one around at an affordable price for CS > use. read what Ode has to say about it at the Silver Puppy website. his > price is about the same as the best deal i found on ebay a couple years > ago... back then he was selling the other good meter, the hannah PWT. > > an exc source of silver for whenever you need more some day is > www.atlasnova.com about the highest purity 99.997% fine silver wire around > and at a fair price. he has nice laser pointer too, which along with a > meter are nice to have but not absolutely needed at all... learn about the > Tyndall Effect and seeing " sparklies " in your CS with the laser beam. > > good pure water is important, however using rainwater is better than > nothing. > i use RO + DI system, which reverse osmosis with carefully selected filter > cartridges and an added de-ionizer stage that gives me water on demand > that's consistently better than the distilled DW from the grocery store > jugs, at least according to my meter readings and the clarity of my CS. > store-bought DW is generally adequate to excellent... varies according to > maintenance on the equipment at the bottler's near you. > > > I have a son who just graduated from > > college with a degree in chemistry, so I'm sure he would help > > me if I have the right ingredients and stuff. > > ...have him read into the websites linked above, and if you dig around at > www.wishgranted.com on their links there's a LOT to be learned there. > > > I could also be > > able to give it to my 3 German Shepherds, one that has > > allergies and scratches her skin,ears and everything else. I > > know it works because I share mine with her when I have it. > > My 3 children are all grown so these dogs are like my family > > now. > > ...there's a group for folks using CS with animals you might find > valuable. i think it's SilverPets or something like that. > > I noticed that you mentioned hydrogen peroxide. I > > understand if you buy the food grade H202 it will oxygenate > > your blood cells and tissues. > > ...any H2O2 will do that, but it's best to get the FG to avoid ingesting > stablizers in the dollar store etc stuff. > > in addition to the direct effects in the body from H2O2, when it reacts with > CS it breaks down (reduces) larger particles into smaller ones, and the > smallest ones into ions. so it can turn a golden CS crystal clear quickly. > it makes the CS more powerful. some folks add some to their CS after it's > made (at least a few days after or pretty colors happen) but i've found that > over time (months) it apparently make it less stable and i get more metallic > fallout in the bottom of the bottles. so i add nothing until ready to > ingest... then i either put an oz of CS in a glass of H2O2 water, or swish > and swallow the CS and chase it with the H2O2 water, hopefully activating > the CS with the H2O2 some right in the body. > > I read everything I could find > > about it and found it is believed by many that disease, > > including cancer can't survive in a highly oxygenated > > environment. > > ... yeah, H2O2 and Ozone act much alike and are powerful health tools for > sure. > there's a group for H2O2 and a couple for Ozone... all good. > there's some gross but fascination videos on youtube or googlevideo of some > giant (like an orange) tumors being treated by ozone injections. amazing. > they dissolve and are sucked away as some yucky gooey liquid. > > There is a book that someone is trying to get > > rich on called " The One Minute Miracle. " After reading the ad > > I was very sure the miracle they were selling for over $40 > > with S & H was food grade hydrogen peroxide. After doing a > > little investigating I found out I was right. I emailed them > > and told them I thought their price was pretty high to charge > > people that desperately want to get well but most can't > > afford to buy their book to find out something they can find > > for free if they know where to look. IMO it makes them just > > as low and greedy as the pharmaceutical giants they complain > > about. They are just smaller scaled. > > ...yup. on the other hand, there might be folks out there who consider it > the best $40 investment they ever made if it got them on a track that saved > their butts. > Thank you Bob for all of the information. I really appreciate it greatly. I know there is info that can save people. I just believe the people without the funds to buy that info should have access to it also. 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Guest guest Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hi, Pat K...I'm just logging on for the night We did have a good day, and I'm looking forward to hearing about yours....I'm sure if I read on I will Blessings to you too... J From: "pkuenstler@..." <pkuenstler@...>autism Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:21:16 AMSubject: Re: interesting article That's my day too. Have a good day. Love and blessings, Pat K interesting article at least to me http://autism. healingthreshold s.com/research/ brief-report- comparative- aba-and Finding the best videos just got easier. Try the NEW Truveo.com. Finding the best videos just got easier. Try the NEW Truveo.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 A PhD Physcologist refuses to place me under Asperger Syndrome, state dictate Social IQ as an factor. PhD equipped that mine swing up and down. Hearing Judge from Social Security Administration and other people that watch Boston Legal was able to point out a person acting that have Asperger Syndrome. Some people with Asperger Syndrome does need help, other doesn't, and other just need both. Tough decision, perhap they should re-arrange " high to low " functioning autism for better clarification? And PDD-Nos instead of ASD-nos given as diagnose, but that just classification. Regardless of Tony's statement, Asperger Syndrome's independence is just as statistic as mostly poverty or otherwise lack of data. On the side note, Aspie and Asperger Syndrome is a target for name ridicule those I wouldn't prefer name Aspie personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 A PhD Physcologist refuses to place me under Asperger Syndrome, state dictate Social IQ as an factor. PhD equipped that mine swing up and down. Hearing Judge from Social Security Administration and other people that watch Boston Legal was able to point out a person acting that have Asperger Syndrome. Some people with Asperger Syndrome does need help, other doesn't, and other just need both. Tough decision, perhap they should re-arrange " high to low " functioning autism for better clarification? And PDD-Nos instead of ASD-nos given as diagnose, but that just classification. Regardless of Tony's statement, Asperger Syndrome's independence is just as statistic as mostly poverty or otherwise lack of data. On the side note, Aspie and Asperger Syndrome is a target for name ridicule those I wouldn't prefer name Aspie personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Thank you for posting this useful article! > > I came across this article from the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine (november 1991). > > It pretty much describes in detail the candida syndrome which they call " gut fermentation. " Interesting that this kind of scholarly study was done nearly 20 years ago, and yet American doctors seem to have a problem understanding. Maybe this is something our doctors should read... > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1295472/pdf/jrsocmed00118-0049.pdf > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 So, we are one of the farms in this article that was embargoed as a result of connections to the TFMN Warehouse. There is one new casualty from this power struggle over control of food rights. After holding on for more than three weeks, my wife (Alice) is unable to handle this financial chaos any longer and has moved off the farm, hopefully not permanently. She has been trying to wrangle around the debt and overhead that we obviously have to operate under. That said, I am open to any and all options to use our farm situation to gain progress in our movement to secure healthy food. I am also open to any offers to buy out my $3000 interest in TFMN from anyone that will steer this entity in the direction of high quality and local food. It's the main reason that Will asked me to hold the reins for him. We need to keep our priorities straight with local, high quality food and direct support for it. Plan to attend the Tuesday nite meeting at Mim's or perhaps a satellite site. Not at TFMN Warehouse where temps will be unmanageable. I think we can do two meetings and coordinate the effort " live " if we have more interest than last week. I'm making my own supper. Now. G'nite, Alvin An interesting article in the latest e-mail from Health Freedom Alliance, mentions our very own warehouse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I love that even the 12 year old is sick of the garbage and is willing to mouth off to intimidating government officials. Thanks for sharing the article. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Alvin, Hello! I am sorry to hear about your current stresses in life and what you and your wife are going through. Financial pressures are tough on people and relationships and I look forward to the day she comes back to the farm and you all can continue to provide your customers with products. I don't have an answer but a thought..in those articles people are linking to that group Rawesome (I think) does an arrangement where the farmers leases the animals/farm to the group and that way they apparently are legally protected. Could the same type of thing happen with your farm and Trad Food warehouse? Then they wouldn't have to go through all of the licensing/regulation hoops they're currently facing and you would be hired to basically do what you are doing? Just a thought... Keep up the fight, and thank you from all of us, Natasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 This is most interesting information for all of us, thank you for that, Zavie. Any news of something new on the horizon is picked up by everyone who keeps their ear to the ground. That is why I spend so much time researching for helpful as well as interesting news. Where it comes from is of the utmost importance, as someone who is not an exprienced reporter may not do a good job of paraphasing it. I normally do not attempt to do that, lest I have improper information. Some names are similiar and some almost impossible to pronounce. We have some newer members who have surfaced and who post the results of their research, which I am sure everyone appreciates - I know I do. Good news is knowledge and knowledge is an education, so the more we know, the better off we all are. It's like goldfish feeding time, the fish all come up to get the crumbs and that is how I sometimes feel - like a goldfish looking for crumbs on the surface of the bowl. I don't know if you ever heard this expression, but in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. I'm pretty sure you have 2 eyes (LOL), but we look to you for information, so that makes you our king. LOL. You have unfettered access to a lot of information we are not all privileged to know. If we know something, we shouldn't keep it to ourselves, but share it, for in doing so, everyone will learn something they didn't know before that could even save their lives, such as warnings about not mixing drugs and herbs, for one. Hope the old leg is doing better and will not pose a problem getting you home. Carpe Diem, Lottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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