Vitamin D

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On 11/21/2009 you wrote:

Speaking of this, does anyone know of an oil-based version that is

completely soy and canola free?

Hi ,

Vitamin D is fat soluble, so needs some fat or oil to be

absorbed. I use Carlson Labs D Drops, liquid D3 in saponified coconut oil. It

is 2,000 IU/drop and I take 2 drops/day for 4,000 IU.

Carol

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Carlsons has a 2K softgel sunflower oil based. vitacost best prices.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Vitamin D

Speaking of this, does anyone know of an oil-based version that is completely soy and canola free?Why do you feel you must have an oil-based D? I am using one from Pure Encapsulations. It is a powder looking thing in the capsules and there is absolutely nothing in them but the vitamin D. Nor in any other of Pure Encapsulations products. I asked.

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The optimal dose of vitamin D for most people is apt to be none or very little.

The following article is so full of errors and misunderstandings that it is

about the worst advice I could imagine and contains what I view as dangerous

medical advice. Vitamin D3 is not a vitamin or an essential nutrient but is

hormone that the body can almost always make out of cholesterol. Only in chronic

infectious hepatitis and AIDs do we see levels of the active metabolite that are

actually too low. Most people that use LDN have too high a level of the active

form of vitamin D that is know as 1,25-D. The body has a feedback system that

when 1,25-D is too high then the precursor molecule will be depressed. Taking

more D3 is not a good solution to having a too high level of the active

seco-steroidal hormone that transcribes the vitamin D receptor. D3 is actually

immuno-suppressive and should not be taken with LDN for that very reason in my

opinion.

Even Dr Cheney now believes that vitamin D3 is toxic.

http://aboutmecfs.org/blog/?p=449

http://www.chronicfatiguetreatments.com/forums/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-f1/topic\

827.html

don't believe the " Vitamin D " hype, it is just the latest snake oil pushed by

mainstream AND alternative medicine.

P.B.

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> Subject: Vitamin D: How to Determine Your Optimal Dose

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> http://www.naturalnews.com/027345_Vitamin_D_sun_exposure_blood.html

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> Vitamin D: How to Determine Your Optimal

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Personally, I don't think it's the latest Hype. Dr. has been talking about Vit D deficiency for over 20 yrs and no one was listening...yours truly for sure.

Vitamin D: How to Determine Your Optimal Dose > > http://www.naturalnews.com/027345_Vitamin_D_sun_exposure_blood.html> > Vitamin D: How to Determine Your Optimal > Dose >

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I just got put on Vitamin D. 5000 units once a week. I have had PA for about ten

years so I do not know if they are related.

CHSaun@...

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Hi MrTom,

I am on Thyroid meds and will be starting vitamin d and vitamin b-12 shots this

week or next week (i get my meds through the mail), I was supposed to start

Humira but needed some extra blood tests so i'm waiting for that too. I wonder

if vitamin deficiency is a common problem among all of us.

                     Lori

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Thanks for sharing. I need to find a doctor to test my Vit D level.

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Lori,

You were wondering the same thing as I was. I was out of overseas all last week

on a business trip and a colleague of mine was recently diagnosed with a similar

type of arthritis. He noted that he was deficient on vitamin D. It also

seems everyone I speak to with arthritis is on thyroid medication, quite often

in very small doses.

Anyway I have always wondered what ties us all together.

cheers

tom

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I have also been told I am vitamin B-12 deficient, have you found that to be a

link as well?

lori sandolo <antlo2003@...>

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www.vitamindcouncil.org has reams of information of Vit D and its uses.

hth,

carol_DM

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Please visit the Vitamin D Council at this link: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/ - a highly regarded, independent source of information with regards to Vitamin D(3).

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Metabolic Maintenance makes a good osteoporosis formula to be taken with your Vit D3.http://store.metabolicmaintenance.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=HREBUILD--- On Tue, 7/13/10, M. Melody <mmmelody47@...> wrote:From: M. Melody <mmmelody47@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Vitamin Dlow dose naltrexone Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 8:21 AM

Please visit the Vitamin D Council at this link: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/ - a highly regarded, independent source of information with regards to Vitamin D(3).

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Thanks for the Vit D link. I am including a excerpt I copied off the site which I found very interesting .... The holistic physician I am working with for LDN put me on Vit K-2, zinc, and transdermal mg to go with 50,000 u of VitD3, 3x per week for the first month and now 5x per week for the second month. All to support healing my immune system. I have taken 800 mg of Mg and 5,000 u of D3 for years, but still had a lot of muscle cramping and tightness. He thought I have not been absorbing the Mg (tablets) due to having celiac disease.

My RA was diagnosed in March after an x-ray of a wrist that was becoming more and more painful and distorted. Now after 2 months on LDN most of that pain in gone, I have greater mobility, and my wrist looks better too.

K

Vitamin D's Co-factors

Vitamin D has co-factors that the body needs in order to utilize vitamin D properly. They are:

magnesium zinc vitamin K2 boron a tiny amount of vitamin A

Magnesium is the most important of these co-factors. In fact, it is common for rising vitamin D levels to exacerbate an underlying magnesium deficiency. If one is having problems supplementing with vitamin D, a magnesium deficiency could be the reason why.

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It's true that our bodies can make enough Vit D IF we let it. Getting enough

sunshine on a regular basis on a large amount of the body is good. However,

I've also read that if you take a bath or shower after being in the sun, the vit

D can't convert like it should. It needs time to process. So if you're using

the sun to provide your vit D, don't bathe until the next day. More info at

mercola.com.

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> Please visit the Vitamin D Council at this

> link: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/ - a highly regarded, independent source

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> information with regards to Vitamin D(3).

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Max,

My suggestion is an endocrinologist. My own, a specialist in Vitamin D who I

have written about here before, was the person who discovered I had severe

osteoporosis. My primary had never even suggested I might have a problem. My

endocrinologist in fact had me scanned before I ever laid eyes on him, and I

wasn't at first going to see him regarding bone health - it was for potential PA

treatment with D. I guess you'd say he's well out " ahead of the curve " .

Don

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You need to take vitamin d 3 . It is more easily absorbed bythe body.

cathy from ma

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That's a big reason Dr Goldberg is so against the megadosing ofvitamins - he

calls it 'feeding the virus', and says it's not a good thing to do. 

Other things, the body will deplete as part of it's defense.  You can find a

lot

about how the body will move iron away during chronic infecton or chronic immune

activation.  Some types of chronic iron deficient anema can't be treated with

iron - you have to treat the underlying infection, and once it's gone, you may

not even have to take iron for the anemia to clear up.  (My anema seems to be

linked to my ASO titers - the higher they go, the worse the anemia, no

matter how much iron I took, and then I'd stop taking iron, but when

the titers

started going down, my hematocrit would come back up.)   I think the body may

do

something with vitamin A during measles too.

 

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From: nm042 <sd042@...>

Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 3:00:15 PM

Subject: vitamin d

 

A fiend of mine just had shingles. Anyway, her Dr. recommended at least

4000-5000IU of vitamin D during the sickness, as the virus will actually use the

vitamin d itself. Intersting thought. I have heard of Vitamin d being used to

prevent or even help suppress a virus, but I hav neve heard of it actually using

it as a source of survival. Has anyone else? Does anyone know where I can find

info on this?

Nat

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What do you mean by the vit. A and measles?, I'm asking because I was interested

in how is that a vit A protocol works for rubella and measles, this is (to my

understanding) 400,000 of vit A for 2 days and then about 20,000 to 25,000

daily for a few months and after that you may try it again after about 6 months.

I was hesitant to try it because I know the Vit A is toxic, so I haven't done

it, but it certainly intrigues me.

SM

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From: <thecolemans4@...>

Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 7:38:33 PM

Subject: Re: vitamin d

That's a big reason Dr Goldberg is so against the megadosing ofvitamins - he

calls it 'feeding the virus', and says it's not a good thing to do.

Other things, the body will deplete as part of it's defense. You can find a lot

about how the body will move iron away during chronic infecton or chronic immune

activation. Some types of chronic iron deficient anema can't be treated with

iron - you have to treat the underlying infection, and once it's gone, you may

not even have to take iron for the anemia to clear up. (My anema seems to be

linked to my ASO titers - the higher they go, the worse the anemia, no

matter how much iron I took, and then I'd stop taking iron, but when the titers

started going down, my hematocrit would come back up.) I think the body may do

something with vitamin A during measles too.

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From: nm042 <sd042@...>

Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 3:00:15 PM

Subject: vitamin d

A fiend of mine just had shingles. Anyway, her Dr. recommended at least

4000-5000IU of vitamin D during the sickness, as the virus will actually use the

vitamin d itself. Intersting thought. I have heard of Vitamin d being used to

prevent or even help suppress a virus, but I hav neve heard of it actually using

it as a source of survival. Has anyone else? Does anyone know where I can find

info on this?

Nat

[Guest guest]

My wife had shingles and we saw Dr K. She put her on immunovir and she recovered

in a couple of weeks with no re-infection.

Bill

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From: nm042 <sd042@...>

Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 4:00:15 PM

Subject: vitamin d

A fiend of mine just had shingles. Anyway, her Dr. recommended at least

4000-5000IU of vitamin D during the sickness, as the virus will actually use the

vitamin d itself. Intersting thought. I have heard of Vitamin d being used to

prevent or even help suppress a virus, but I hav neve heard of it actually using

it as a source of survival. Has anyone else? Does anyone know where I can find

info on this?

Nat

[Guest guest]

Yes I get the issue of feeding the virus. However, viruss are very smart, won't

they find the ource of the vitmain anyway depleting it from the body? I am just

thinking out loud.

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> That's a big reason Dr Goldberg is so against the megadosing ofvitamins - he

> calls it 'feeding the virus', and says it's not a good thing to do. 

>

> Other things, the body will deplete as part of it's defense.  You can find a

lot

> about how the body will move iron away during chronic infecton or chronic

immune

> activation.  Some types of chronic iron deficient anema can't be treated

with

> iron - you have to treat the underlying infection, and once it's gone, you may

> not even have to take iron for the anemia to clear up.  (My anema seems to be

> linked to my ASO titers - the higher they go, the worse the anemia, no

> matter how much iron I took, and then I'd stop taking iron, but when

the titers

> started going down, my hematocrit would come back up.)   I think the body

may do

> something with vitamin A during measles too.

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> From: nm042 <sd042@...>

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> Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 3:00:15 PM

> Subject: vitamin d

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> A fiend of mine just had shingles. Anyway, her Dr. recommended at least

> 4000-5000IU of vitamin D during the sickness, as the virus will actually use

the

> vitamin d itself. Intersting thought. I have heard of Vitamin d being used to

> prevent or even help suppress a virus, but I hav neve heard of it actually

using

> it as a source of survival. Has anyone else? Does anyone know where I can find

> info on this?

> Nat

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probably!  And you still have to give the daily recommended allowance... 

It's a question I'd love to ask Dr G.  He must have a reason - this one has

always stumped me a bit.  He did go into detail about it once years ago but I

have forgotten all.

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From: nm042 <sd042@...>

Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:00:59 AM

Subject: Re: vitamin d

 

Yes I get the issue of feeding the virus. However, viruss are very smart, won't

they find the ource of the vitmain anyway depleting it from the body? I am just

thinking out loud.

>

> That's a big reason Dr Goldberg is so against the megadosing ofvitamins - he

> calls it 'feeding the virus', and says it's not a good thing to do. 

>

> Other things, the body will deplete as part of it's defense.  You can find

a

>lot

>

> about how the body will move iron away during chronic infecton or chronic

>immune

>

> activation.  Some types of chronic iron deficient anema can't be treated

with

>

> iron - you have to treat the underlying infection, and once it's gone, you may

> not even have to take iron for the anemia to clear up.  (My anema seems to

be

> linked to my ASO titers - the higher they go, the worse the anemia, no

> matter how much iron I took, and then I'd stop taking iron, but when

>the titers

>

> started going down, my hematocrit would come back up.)   I think the

body may

>do

>

> something with vitamin A during measles too.

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> From: nm042 <sd042@...>

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> Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 3:00:15 PM

> Subject: vitamin d

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>  

> A fiend of mine just had shingles. Anyway, her Dr. recommended at least

> 4000-5000IU of vitamin D during the sickness, as the virus will actually use

>the

>

> vitamin d itself. Intersting thought. I have heard of Vitamin d being used to

> prevent or even help suppress a virus, but I hav neve heard of it actually

>using

>

> it as a source of survival. Has anyone else? Does anyone know where I can find

> info on this?

> Nat

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That would be wonderful. I have had a really hard time getting my child D level

up to an acceptable level. Fianlly, it is not pathetic. I truly believe that

my son's Carnitine was low before because the gut bugs were depleting it for

their own fatty acid oxidation. I have been through every mito/metabolic

specialist since. His carnitine is ok now with this supplement, but I wonder if

by giving more am I just feeding the beast. We have some mild marks of mito/ but

still nothing definitive. Waiting for yet another redult of a fibroblast

culture. There has been enough at this point that our mito do keeps pushing the

test one step further. But I do wander if this is secondary to the burden that

has been put on his body by the bad bugs. SO the question becomes for me, if we

don't somehow silence this virus, do we then get depleted of the vital nutrients

we need, thus making it harder to silence the virus or bacteria. My friend

always says we are dogs chasing our own tails. That would be wonderful if you

could find the answer. SInce the whole mito thing came up, I took a break from

nids just because I was having a hard time wrapping my head around it all. I

would love to see what his opinion is on a child that needs mito support that is

evident in test. Can't make energy, can't make DNA, can't silence a virus.

> >

> > That's a big reason Dr Goldberg is so against the megadosing ofvitamins - he

> > calls it 'feeding the virus', and says it's not a good thing to do. 

> >

> > Other things, the body will deplete as part of it's defense.  You can

find a

> >lot

> >

> > about how the body will move iron away during chronic infecton or chronic

> >immune

> >

> > activation.  Some types of chronic iron deficient anema can't be

treated with

> >

> > iron - you have to treat the underlying infection, and once it's gone, you

may

>

> > not even have to take iron for the anemia to clear up.  (My anema seems

to be

>

> > linked to my ASO titers - the higher they go, the worse the anemia, no

> > matter how much iron I took, and then I'd stop taking iron, but when

> >the titers

> >

> > started going down, my hematocrit would come back up.)   I think the

body may

> >do

> >

> > something with vitamin A during measles too.

> >  

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> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: nm042 <sd042@>

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> > Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 3:00:15 PM

> > Subject: vitamin d

> >

> >  

> > A fiend of mine just had shingles. Anyway, her Dr. recommended at least

> > 4000-5000IU of vitamin D during the sickness, as the virus will actually use

> >the

> >

> > vitamin d itself. Intersting thought. I have heard of Vitamin d being used

to

> > prevent or even help suppress a virus, but I hav neve heard of it actually

> >using

> >

> > it as a source of survival. Has anyone else? Does anyone know where I can

find

>

> > info on this?

> > Nat

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi:

It is my understanding that domestic mushrooms are not good for cancer. Some

believe cancer is a fungus and these contribute to the fungus.  The mushrooms

that seem to be good for cancer are miatake, shitake, and reishi. These contain

vit D and beta glucans. Good immune system boosters.  ABM mushrooms are

sometimes used in Japan instead of chemo and Japan buys 90% of what Brazil can

produce.

http://rodwellmushrooms.com/html/faq.html

I have no clue what cooking does to the mushrooms.

Vic

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From: Garth & Kim <gartht@...>

; Immune Web <immune@...>

Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 8:47:57 AM

Subject: [ ] vitamin D

 

Greetings,

A friend sent me this information, it looks good on the surface. Does

anyone know more about it? We buy our mushrooms direct from Monterrey

about 15 miles up the road. Will cooking the mushrooms affect the

vitamin D?

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_14879794?IADID=Search-www.santacruzsentinel.\

com-www.santacruzsentinel.com

--

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

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What I have read that you should cook mushrooms , they are actually

better for you cooked

________________________________

From: Garth & Kim <gartht@...>

; Immune Web <immune@...>

Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 6:47:57 AM

Subject: [ ] vitamin D

Greetings,

A friend sent me this information, it looks good on the surface. Does

anyone know more about it? We buy our mushrooms direct from Monterrey

about 15 miles up the road. Will cooking the mushrooms affect the

vitamin D?

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_14879794?IADID=Search-www.santacruzsentinel.\

com-www.santacruzsentinel.com>

--

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

[Guest guest]

You are so welcome, Katriina.

Great to hear that you are seeing an improvement!

Not an MD

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Katriina Alanko <oknala@...> wrote:

> I battle with SAD each winter and take vitamin D to combat symptoms.

> Recently, my PCP upped my vitamin D intake to 4000 iu per day, half in the

> morning and the rest at suppertime.  She also has me take vitamin C to go

> along with it.  And it's making a difference!  I had no idea that RA could

> deplete vitamin D and make me want to hibernate all winter.

>

> Thank you, , for the time you spend researching all this stuff.  Some

> things just make more sense to me now after I've read your contribution.

>

> Katriina